Is It ‘Conspiratorial’ to Discuss Obama’s Authoritarian Tendencies?
Michael Medved placed Georgia Congressman Paul Broun’s comments about Obama wanting an authoritarian regime into the category of “conspiracies” on a recent “conspiracy Friday” show. He said that such statements did not “help” the conservative cause.
Medved echoes what I hear from some conservative colleagues in the academy who do not want to be labeled “extremist,” who would like to wait for all the evidence, archived and footnoted, to come in before they draw conclusions.
History will tell if Congressman Broun is right. But history most often tells us what happens when individuals are afraid to take action, when they wait.
Last summer many saw a professor and former Harvard Law Review president and could not think of him as harboring any authoritarian tendencies, even though the evidence was there. Several conservatives supported Obama over McCain. Peggy Noonan was waxing poetical about history.
In the meantime, the common folks “clung” to their religion and guns, and bought even more guns and ammunition. Some of these folks have parents who remember what it was like to live defenseless under a communist regime that controlled the media and everything else. Some, having had to live and work in the real world for generations, have a healthy skepticism of elites.
Well, history tells us that most terroristic socialist regimes were started by disaffected intellectuals, who learned their theories in universities and then imposed them on the “people.”
History, however, is less likely to tell about tragedies that are stymied by individuals not afraid to speak up. History will not give us the footnoted evidence about the citizens who were propelled to take action by Congressman Broun’s words.
We will never know what would have happened had decisive leaders like Ronald Reagan not challenged the Soviet Union or invaded Grenada. We don’t know what would have happened if Saddam Hussein were still in power.
We do know the mistakes of waiting too long, of paralysis. We know that by the 10 million killed under National Socialism and 100 million killed under communism.
Extreme?
Could all those post-election presidential well-wishers on the air, the intellectuals, the “moderates,” including the 2008 Republican presidential candidate, have predicted the extreme actions of this president after only seven months in office? Would they have predicted Obama nationalizing car companies and banks, firing the CEO of GM, and setting salaries; stoking racial fires with unsubstantiated evidence, while appointing an attorney general who has allowed voter intimidation; appointing a racist judge to the Supreme Court for her ability to “empathize”; moving the census to the White House; going on an apology tour to all our enemies after declaring himself a “citizen of the world”; using public funding for a civilian corps of youths; seeking to advance his political agenda through the arts and schoolchildren; demonizing private citizens who express criticisms of his policy; attacking the opposition media; and instituting a shadow government of “czars”?
Some of these czars, like Carol Browner and Van Jones, are communists and socialists. Jones, like his recent boss, specializes in fomenting racial, ethnic, and class hatred, a favorite tactic of socialist dictators, like Lenin, Hitler, and Hugo Chavez.
It was not moderates or academics who pressured Van Jones into resigning, but researchers like Trevor Loudon, who, back in April, started detailing Jones’ disturbing background. It was Glenn Beck who dared to publicize Jones’ past on Fox. (Beck also is the only one, as far as I know, who has had historians Ronald J. Pestritto and Robert Gellately on to provide the historical context that the “moderates” are afraid to mention.) And Cliff Kincaid’s column should put the lie to any distance Obama attempts to place between himself and Van Jones.
The mainstream, Obama-enthralled media has not bothered to dig into Jones’ past and simply repeats Jones’ charges of a “smear campaign.”
But it won’t be the establishment — the reporters who are invited to the White House or the professors at the Ivy League universities — who will save us from this administration.
It will be outraged parents and bloggers who can see the indoctrination in the leading questions sent out by the White House to children captive before the beamed image of their president.
It will be the tea party protesters who do not need policy wonks to tell them what they clearly see coming down the pike with Obama’s nationalized health care: rationing and “death panels” — like panels of Nazi doctors who decided what life was not worthy of life.
Those who work and worship quite happily with citizens of other races (like Sergeant Crowley and his fellow police officers) see that we’ve got a president who foments racial strife; he appoints people who specialize in that tactic and use “crises” to their advantage.
They see that Obama seeks control of industries, the media, the schools, charity, private business, financial institutions, and our health, including matters of life and death.
They see that he has appointed radicals who display no respect for the Constitution, the law, or American sovereignty; who are or have been members of communist parties; who believe they know what’s best for the American people and believe it is their job to force it upon them, whether by rushing a phony “stimulus” bill through in the dead of night, by subverting the election process, by threatening with “pitchfork mobs,” or by scheming to outlaw forums for speech like talk radio.
The president’s www.BarackObama.com website called us who oppose his health care bill “right-wing domestic terrorists.” Fidel Castro echoes the common charge of Obama and company that any criticisms arise from a racist right wing. Marxist authoritarian leader Hugo Chavez (who was paid a friendly visit by Obama last spring) said Honduran protesters against Chavez-supported ousted president Manuel Zelaya were aligned with the “extreme right.” Need we say more about the tenuous situation in Central and South America with Marxist regimes supported by Iran, all under the approving gaze of Obama?
Can we dare to make comparisons to fascist and communist regimes of the twentieth century as Congressman Broun did?
Do we need more evidence of “authoritarianism”?






Well, since there is actually zilch, nada *real* evidence for Obama’s “authoritarian tendencies,” I do believe that this technically makes any discussion of said nonexistent tendencies “conspiratorial”.
If you want to discuss some real “authoritarian tendencies,” try Googling: Rex 84 Reagan Bush
When will you racist hate mongers get it?
We had an election last November. We won, you lost, and you will not get another chance. President Obama rules this country now and he will lead us into a new world of peace and justice.
The time of oppressive white male sexists and racists is past. Just shut up and pay the reparations that your erstwhile victims so richly deserve.
Bravo. Great article. What more evidence do we need than Obama’s own background and actions to be able to call Obama what he is, a socialist. He needs to drop the pretenses and just come out and say it…oh wait he has by advocating countless socialist policies in his speeches. Nevermind.
Ain’t it just grand to watch rabid lunatics (#1 BD, #2 YWD) prove just what this author wrote?!?
There are people who will always need a smack upside the head in order to get them to internalize the truth. A truth which they so readily dismiss, are so loathe to accept, that they will defy ALL reality in order to ignore its meaning.
No matter. Obama and his pseudo intellectual contingent are so full of hubris that they totally underestimate the average Joe and Jane.
The average, non deluded citizen recognizes when their house is on fire. They realize that if they overextend on their credit that they will go bankrupt. They can tell when someone is saying one thing, doing another, all the while blowing smoke up their behinds.
Therefore, these two conflicitng forces of people have NO choice but to collide.The thing of it is that when they do intersect the Washington (so called) elite will be left flat footed. Their feet of clay will be revealed for all the world to see as they crumble before those they held in such disdain.
The fallout will be enormous, but a deep cleansing is often the only way to stop fools from bringing the house down on the rest of us.
The comments from #2 above deserve some comment.
. Yes We Did:
When will you racist hate mongers get it?
[Get what? The fact that Obama ran from the center and now wants to RULE from the left?]
We had an election last November. We won, you lost, and you will not get another chance.
[So you support a free ONE TIME election? Do we need any more evidence that Obama intends to become a dictator? That seems to be what you propose.]
President Obama rules this country now and he will lead us into a new world of peace and justice.
[The last time I looked at the U.S. Constitution, our President does not "rule." He leads the Executive Branch of our Government, one of three co-equal branches thereof.]
The time of oppressive white male sexists and racists is past. Just shut up and pay the reparations that your erstwhile victims so richly deserve.
[I really don't think I plan to pay reparations to any one for any past actions of any individual or group of individuals for any supposed historical wrongs. If you are so convinced that you and you ancestors would have been better off by not being slaves {I deduce from your comment that you are probably an "African-American" as opposed to just a plain "American"} then you should return to your 'home' country and take up where your ancestors left off. Let me know how subsistence farming works out for you.]
Do you need proof that Obama is up for no good to the American Democracy?
Well, in his first week after inauguration he took control of the Bureau of Census and just a few days later Acorn was handled in a silver platter the task (and $$) of recruiting personnel for the next census.
Well, he’s =trying= to be authoritarian.
Can’t say he’s doing it terribly well.
That’s what he gets for running for office without having actually run anything. He might have ambitions to do certain things, but the follow through… eh, not so much.
Mary,
God bless you for telling the truth about who and what we are up against.
Medved is a PC coward. Chris Wallace, his round table and most of Fox News still act as if this just another liberal administration. It’s not. Obama is at war with us. Look at comment #’s 1 and especially 2.
Glenn Beck is right that we need more time to organize.
Most importantly we must continue to resist and fight back.
Obama is an anti-white racist and a totalitarian communist. He must be defeated.
“President Obama rules this country now”
America was founded because “We the People” didn’t like being lorded over by “rulers”.
During the campaign, I was concerned about Obamas pro-Islamist sympathies, because of his obvious affinity for Islam.
I was also concerned about his obvious pro-socialist, neo-Marxist bent, because of his affiliation with socialists and neo-marxists.
Mostly, however, I was concerned about the Obama personality cult.
My concerns have been well founded.
The pictures of Obama with his chin in the air and halos around his head, the all omnicient yet vacuous sermons with his opinion stated as gospel, and mobs of mindless, unquestioning, worshiping acolytes are very disturbing indicators of what is to come.
Look at his website http://www.barackobama.com….you can see the chin up picture with beams of light radiating behind him. You can see the markers of the personality cult:
“My.BarackObama.com”
“Obama Mobile”
“Obama Everywhere” (Everywhere! Just like God!)
And then there is “The Pledge”, where people state “I pledge to be a servant to our president and all mankind” and “I pledge to be of service to Barack Obama”
This is the kind of creepy personality cult pathology that leads to guys like Jim Jones in Guyana, Muhammed in the desert, and Hitler in Germany.
No, Obama is not Jim Jones, Muhammed or Hitler. But there was a time when Jim Jones, Muhammed and Hitler weren’t Jim Jones, Muhammed or Hitler either. That came later, after they consolidated their power.
Creepy! Dangerous!
~ The Infidel Alliance
Yeah. The truth always ‘hurts’ a little, especially when you’re dealing with a full-on narcissistic nut-bag.
@4 and 6
I read #2′s comments as satire. It’s hard to satirize Obama.
92. George S.:
don’t feed the trolls ..watch the video below …well worth the ten minutes.
it outlines why the trolls cannot understand reality. they are a lost group.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIFcnctnHsE&feature=related
Wow!! The trolls were on this faster than greased lightning. . . .they must be waiting at the gate, ready to pounce. . . little georgie soros must be getting scared. We must be ready to fight against an authoritarian regime whenever and however possible…the March on Washington is just the tip of the iceberg. It is time true Conservatives throw Medved and his ilk under the bus. . .
9. Steve
ditto ..well put. there are still to many apologists even at Fox.
Conspiracy? The tax supported Brownshirt programs like ACORN, AmeriCorps, Organize for America and the legion other “civil corps” Obama has talked about forming aren’t conspiritorial, they’re REAL, HERE and NOW.
Like Nazis? Dozens of nutty “czars” (e.g., Eugenicists and Communists) in the White House running the country as a shadow, uncontrolled government ? A few strutting narcissists managing the world’s largest economy through those czars in operatic hilarity and under daily barrages of Big Brother lectures?
It’s way too late. Their ball began rolling down hill 40 years ago, and they’ve now got three generations behind it.
When it all doesn’t go the way they think it should, they pull out the guns and MAKE us do it their way, just like Mao, Ché, Pol Pot.
5. Adina Kutnicki, Israel:
excellent comment.
I don’t like Obama, I didn’t vote for him and I wish someone else was President (not wild about McCain either, maybe Newt Gingrich).Having said that, this whole article reads like the paranoid schizophrenic ramblings of someone who has no ability to distinguish the real world from fantasy.
There is no evidence to suggest that Americorps or the Peace Corps is being turned into Obamas private army.
He’s not the first president to appoint “czars” to run government initiatives. I’m not wild about the fact that we have a Green Jobs Czar or about the guy that was picked for the job but everyone who acts like these czars are something Obama invented and that they’re fundamentally un-American is being disingenuous.
His speech to schoolchildren was entirely innocuous and in order to see indoctrination in that one sample question you really have to want to see it.
The death panel thing has been refuted by every non-partisan group that has looked into it. The plans for health care “reform” are awful already, we don’t need to make up stupid names for things to mislead people.
Everything I’ve read about the Obama/Chavez handshake was that Chavez made a bee-line across a crowded room to shake Obama’s hand while the cameras were rolling. Was it masterful statesmanship on Obama’s part to not be able to avoid him? No, but it’s not evidence that they’re best pals either.
Why am I picking on the little details in this story? Simply because this is the sort of thing that makes us look bad. There are a number of true charges in this article: health care rationing, the website labeling people “right-wing domestic terrorists.”, the Justice Dept. turning a blind eye to voter intimidation. But when intelligent people hear about “death panels” and Obama indoctrinating school children they assume that everything we’re saying is crazy. Obama is a bad President but he’s not Stalin reincarnated. We should focused on blocking his agenda and defeating him in 2012. Leave the conspiracy theories at home.
Sorry one more thing.
#2 from Yes We Did is S-A-T-I-R-E. Seriously people, get a grip.
16. Pelaut:
Conspiracy? The tax supported Brownshirt programs like ACORN, AmeriCorps, Organize for America and the legion other “civil corps” Obama has talked about forming aren’t conspiritorial, they’re REAL, HERE and NOW.
Like Nazis? Dozens of nutty “czars” (e.g., Eugenicists and Communists) in the White House running the country as a shadow, uncontrolled government ? A few strutting narcissists managing the world’s largest economy through those czars in operatic hilarity and under daily barrages of Big Brother lectures?
It’s way too late. Their ball began rolling down hill 40 years ago, and they’ve now got three generations behind it.
When it all doesn’t go the way they think it should, they pull out the guns and MAKE us do it their way, just like Mao, Ché, Pol Pot.
AGREED
obama is acorn
acorn is obama …they are not going to fade away …like a virus they will just change in form and name.
van jones is obama
obama is van jones …wonder what his severance package is ??
obama is the czars
the cazars are obama …wonder how the congress pays their salaries and asks no questions??
this administration is over the top corrupt.
Like #12 Terry Gain, I have to believe that #2 is satire. If it is not, that is one DEEPLY DISTURBED individual.
Come to think of it, even if it is……
If it stinks like a pile of sh-t, it’s a pile of sh-t. We don’t need a fancy effete intellectual deliberating on emanations and penumbras, waiting to gather the evidence to make this judgment call. It’s a BIG pile.
18. Paul in MI
Why am I picking on the little details in this story? Simply because this is the sort of thing that makes us look bad. There are a number of true charges in this article: health care rationing,
THERE WILL BE RATIONING. THESE GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS FORCE IT BY DESIGN …you are sounding wery troll like
the website labeling people “right-wing domestic terrorists.”, the Justice Dept. turning a blind eye to voter intimidation. But when intelligent people hear about “death panels”
THE LAGUAGE IS IN THE BILL ….THERE ARE DEATH PANELS IN THE BILL. IN THE BILL THEY ARE CALLED COMMITIES.
and Obama indoctrinating school children they assume that everything we’re saying is crazy.
HE CHANGED THE SPEECH AFTER THE OUT CRY. IT IS A VULGAR POLITICAL INDOCTRINATION.
Obama is a bad President
I AGREE WITH THIS STATEMENT
but he’s not Stalin reincarnated.
MAYBE NOT YET BUT HE IS USING HIS TACTICS …AS DID CASTRO, ROBERT MUGABE etc. WHAT KIND OF SIGN DO YOU NEED ??
We should focused on blocking his agenda and defeating him in 2012. Leave the conspiracy theories at home.
THEY ARE NOT THEORIES ….THEY ARE HIS DEEDS
don’t be a Quisling or a Bill O’Rielly …be a BECK
2. or should I say number two.
it is satire or Raum Emanuale posting
# 18 writes “Why am I picking on the little details in this story? Simply because this is the sort of thing that makes us look bad”.
Makes us look bad to whom? Mindless ill informed robots?
YOU are one of us? Yeah right.
Newt Gingrich? You mean the guy touring with the raice baiter Al Sharton? The guy who last summer jumped on the “Global Warming” BS. Or the guy who prior to that suggested that we spend $billions on a Marshall plan for the Middle East without reading the Islamic texts?
I’ll pass on Newt. He doesn’t speak for me. His time has LONG passed.
“The death panel thing has been refuted by every non-partisan group that has looked into it.”
To say that there are no death panels is moronic. We have statements from the architects of this illegal takeover of our healthcare system that tell us that that is EXACTLY what their “cost cutting” will amount to.
Or then again, maybe you have conceived in your mind of some sort of government run cost efficiency that has NEVER existed but will now exist because of these “astute business men” that now control our country.
I’ve got a bridge to sell you, pal.
#23 George S.
You misread me, my post said that there would be rationing in the health care bill, that the website did label people “right-wing domestic terrorists.” and the Justice Dept. is failing to prosecute voter intimidation. That’s why I referred to them as “true charges”.
“IN THE BILL THEY ARE CALLED COMMITIES.”
It’s a long mental jump from a committee named in the bill (I don’t know what committee you’re referring to because you didn’t name it) to a group that will decide who gets health care and who doesn’t. That’s the sort of thing you have to prove if you want people including me to believe it, shouting doesn’t make it true.
“HE CHANGED THE SPEECH AFTER THE OUT CRY.”
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but you’ll have to prove that also.
“don’t be a Quisling or a Bill O’Rielly …be a BECK”
I don’t want to be Glen Beck. He lives in a scary little world of his own imagining. Beck’s show operates on the principle that if you throw enough sh*** at the wall some of it will stick. For example, here’s Beck accusing John Rockefeller (capitalist icon) of being a communist through his own confusion and willful ignorance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szlLM5lCNJg
Finally, nothing personal but it’s hard to take you seriously when you type in all caps and misspell simple words like committee and language.
Not to put myself up as a representative for all “Trolls,” but the goofy article title just happened to catch my eye when I was checking on responses to my other posts (you guys are actually my favorite right wing site, and not just because I don’t have to register — I recently discovered that Politico can be manipulated into removing a post if enough right-wingers complain, regardless of the content. Tsk-tsk…)
Obama is easily far, far less “authoritarian” of any of the recent Republican Presidents — go do that little Google search I suggested — so if you didn’t worry about those guys about this stuff, then you are just being really goofy worrying about Obama. You’re not just seeing windmills as dragons — you’re seeing them as cruise ships for dragon families.
There are plenty of reasons to question Obama’s commitment to achieve his agenda through democratic means and the compatibility of his agenda with a free society. But these are mere suspicions and many will be inclined to discount them. We should avoid labels and inflammatory statements and make the case again and again on the details of this or that policy that it is undesirable or contrary to our traditions or compromises our liberty.
Our Constitution gives us protections against a would be tyrant and we should employ them to the full. The 2010 election is at the top of the list.
The charge that Obama is some kind of totalitarian discredits us in the eyes of many who oppose him – even if our instincts are right.
For more on O’s associations, see
http://frontpagemag.com/readArticle.aspx?ARTID=36289
4., Once again, the left is so loony, you can’t tell whether #2 is a snarkster or serious. Either interpretation is completely believable.
“IN THE BILL THEY ARE CALLED COMMITIES.”
It’s a long mental jump from a committee named in the bill (I don’t know what committee you’re referring to because you didn’t name it) to a group that will decide who gets health care and who doesn’t. That’s the sort of thing you have to prove if you want people including me to believe it, shouting doesn’t make it true.
You don’t have to take it on faith, Paul. Just open your eyes and look around. Call it euthanasia, call it death panels, call it anything you like — there is no denying that rationing is a fact in government-run, universal healthcare. Google “UK+health+horror”. There are over 6 million entries… I’ve also included just a few of the many recent entries about Canada, where I live:
6000+ brain and vascular surgeries to be cancelled in Vancouver …
Thousands of surgeries may be cut in Metro Vancouver due to government underfunding, leaked paper This is nothing unusual for a government-run health.
Surgeries cancelled, patients left in hallways at B.C. hospital …
Surgeries cancelled, patients left in hallways at B.C. hospital: surgeon … Hospital is considered the major emergency care hub outside of Vancouver. …
Shortage of hospital beds, cancelled surgeries common across Canada
26 Jan 2007 … Toronto’s Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre cancelled 30 surgeries in December, and more than one-third of the cancellations involved cancer …
http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2007/01/26/hospitals-emerg.html – Similar
Surgeries cancelled for lack of nurses
… of 50 surgeries since April 1. By The Vancouver ProvinceJune 23, 2008. Story ; Photos ( 1 ) … Three of the 14 cancelled last week were heart surgeries. …
http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id…7a2a... – Cached – Similar
Hundreds of surgeries cancelled as B.C. health support workers …
VICTORIA -Hundreds of surgeries and diagnostic tests were cancelled across British …MRIs and CT scans were cancelled in the Vancouver area alone. …
UK health care horror story: no beds for women in labor
26 Aug 2009 … As the United States debates the merits of government-sponsored healthcare, stories emerge from the UK of dramatic bed shortages in …
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/278301 – Cached – Similar
I’ve had experience with both systems and I will leave you with one final fact: You are about to throw away the best healthcare system in the world in favour of one that is a dismal failure anywhere it has been tried.
Medved should know better than to abuse the word “conspiracy” like that. Having extreme views has nothing whatsoever to do with conspiracies. Neither is it a conspiracy to suggest that an existing organization operates as an organization.
Words that mean everything mean nothing.
#1B.C. (Beyond Cretinism) Whereas if we want to observe truly dmented political drivel,we only need to sxcan your posts.Obama is a Chavez wannabee, complete with ACORN and Black Panther”brown shirt” thugs,A surveillance website, a PRAVDA media,officials who call our soldiers” “terrorists”,and dissenters NAZIS and lickspittle free speech haters like you who wish to suppress dissent by demonizing as conspiratorial . Keep it up! You only,serve to intensify our contempt for Obamanism,and increase our determination to resist.
If Medved can’t face reality,dump him, we don’t need civil,neutered little establishment figures in the conservative resistance movement!
The government made promises it can’t keep in the form of Medicare and Social Security. Now, everyone in the country is supposed to get screwed in order for the government to take care of a little problem it created. IOW, Obama and company think that all of our money is really their money, but we shouldn’t think that they’re all totalitarian scum. Is that about the gist of your article?
Please, the guy is a walking Dictator fantasy, it’s obvious and thinking that no one should notice is just plain stupid. I mean, come on, “The Office of The President Elect” isn’t enough to convict the guy as an aspiring dictator? Three dozen czars? His use of the royal “we” when ordering ice cream?
Regards
#31 Alan
I agree with you that in Canada and the UK health care rationing does have the effect of denying people medical care.
Health care is going to remain a scarce resource for the foreseeable future so there is always going to be a greater demand than supply. Therefore, in any nation using any system some people will get more care than others, we can call this “rationing”. Our system rations care by price because we believe that the profit incentive will inevitably drive down costs and make things better for everyone in the long run. This has largely been true.
The British and Canadian approach rations care by “need” as defined by government policies. To anyone familiar with government bureaucracy it’s obvious that this will result in an inefficient distribution of resources and more than a few horror stories.
I’m firmly in favor of keeping our current system and making minor changes to insurance regulations and tort law to encourage competition and discourage exploitative business practices. My issue is with the allegation that there will be “death panels” set up if the health care bill passes to look at people on a case by case basis and decide whether or not they deserve to get health care. It’s obviously not true and nobody has been able to prove otherwise. When we tell people “you should oppose this because it will cost a fortune and hurt people in the long run” we’ve got a chance of convincing them but if we claim that Obama plans to set up Nazi-style death panels and then they check Politifact and see this http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/aug/10/sarah-palin/sarah-palin-barack-obama-death-panel/ or this http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/23/betsy-mccaughey/mccaughey-claims-end-life-counseling-will-be-requi/ then we’ve lost the argument.
Another good article from Mary Grabar.
Medved. A really bright guy, widely read, amazing memory. But — like Newt — he can’t shake the comity-over-principle meme of the 60′s. Why can’t we just get along? Or maybe it’s political expediency-over-principle; or both…
Can’t take away from Newt the Contract With America. Brilliant idea — promises with built-in accountability. Like to see it done again.
Obama as authoritarian. It doesn’t advance the argument to avoid calling a thing by its name. In speech and actions meant to intimidate opposition he gives a different and disturbing meaning to “bully pulpit”.
“Is It ‘Conspiratorial’ to Discuss Obama’s Authoritarian Tendencies?”
Oh, Mary, Mary, don’t get yourself all in a huff. No one’s calling you conspiratorial; you’re just silly.
“Well, since there is actually zilch, nada *real* evidence for Obama’s “authoritarian tendencies,” I do believe that this technically makes any discussion of said nonexistent tendencies “conspiratorial”.”
Oh, really? Try this.
Understanding Obama, The Making of a Fuehrer
by Ali Sina, 9/22/08
http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html
“Who is Obama?
Obama is not an ordinary man. He is not a genius. In fact he is quite ignorant on most important subjects. Barack Obama is a narcissist. Dr. Sam Vaknin, the author of the Malignant Self Love, also believes, “Barack Obama appears to be a narcissist.”
Vaknin is a world authority on narcissism. He understands narcissism and describes the inner mind of a narcissist like no other person. When he talks about narcissism everyone listens. Vaknin says that Obama’s language, posture and demeanor, and the testimonies of his closest, dearest and nearest suggest that the Senator is either a narcissist or he may have narcissistic personality disorder (NPD).
Vaknin explains: “Narcissistic leaders are nefarious and their effects pernicious. They are subtle, refined, socially-adept, manipulative, possessed of thespian skills, and convincing. Both types [cerebral and somatic] equally lack empathy and are ruthless and relentless or driven.” These were the very traits that distinguished Hitler and Khomeini. Many of these traits can be seen in Obama. As for his ruthlessness, perhaps his support of legislation to let babies die if they survive abortion, gives a glimps into his soul, that he may lacks empathy, does not value life, and if in the position of power can be ruthless. Narcissists need power to show their ruthlessness. Considering the fact that Obama neglected his own half brother, George Hussein Obama, who lives on one dollar per month in Kenya, we can’t vouch for Obama’s empathy or say he is a caring person.
Narcissists are empty in substance but full on promises. Obama has not proposed a single concrete workable plan, but he has raised the hopes and expectations of millions of people with his promises. The glorious tomorrow that he offers is no more real than the Styrofoam Greek columns that adorned his image during his acceptance speech.
Vaknin says, “The narcissistic leader prefers the sparkle and glamour of well-orchestrated illusions to the tedium and method of real accomplishments, His reign is all smoke and mirrors, devoid of substances, consisting of mere appearances and mass delusions. In the aftermath of his regime – the narcissistic leader having died, been deposed, or voted out of office – it all unravels. The tireless and constant prestidigitation ceases and the entire edifice crumbles. What looked like an economic miracle turns out to have been a fraud-laced bubble. Loosely-held empires disintegrate. Laboriously assembled business conglomerates go to pieces. “earth shattering” and “revolutionary” scientific discoveries and theories are discredited. Social experiments end in mayhem.”
The narcissist who regards himself as the benefactor of the poor, a member of the common folk, the representative of the disenfranchised, the champion of the dispossessed against the corrupt elite – is highly unlikely to use violence at first.”
The pacific mask crumbles when the narcissist has become convinced that the very people he purported to speak for, his constituency, his grassroots fans, the prime sources of his narcissistic supply – have turned against him. At first, in a desperate effort to maintain the fiction underlying his chaotic personality, the narcissist strives to explain away the sudden reversal of sentiment. “The people are being duped by (the media, big industry, the military, the elite, etc.)”, “they don’t really know what they are doing”, “following a rude awakening, they will revert to form”, etc.
When these flimsy attempts to patch a tattered personal mythology fail – the narcissist is injured. Narcissistic injury inevitably leads to narcissistic rage and to a terrifying display of unbridled aggression. The pent-up frustration and hurt translate into devaluation. That which was previously idealized – is now discarded with contempt and hatred.
This election is like no other in the history of America. The issues are insignificant compared to what is at stake. What can be more dangerous than having a man bereft of conscience, a serial liar, and one who cannot distinguish his fantasies from reality as the leader of the free world?
I hate to sound alarmist, but one must be a fool if one is not alarmed. Many politicians are narcissists. They pose no threat to others. They are simply self serving and selfish. Obama evinces symptoms of pathological narcissism, which is different from the run-of-the-mill narcissism of a Richard Nixon or a Bill Clinton, for example. To him reality and fantasy are intertwined. This is a mental health issue, not just a character flaw. Pathological narcissists are dangerous because they look normal and even intelligent. It is this disguise that makes them trecherous.
Vaknin says, “When the narcissist reveals his true colors, it is usually far too late. His victims are unable to separate from him. They are frustrated by this acquired helplessness and angry at themselves for having failed to see through the narcissist earlier on.”
Is It ‘Conspiratorial’ to Discuss Obama’s Authoritarian Tendencies?>>
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If these people had discussed the “Where’s the Birth Certificate” issue in 2008 then they wouldn’t be wasting their time discussing this issue.
Paul in MI
I didn’t know spelling was the determining factor in an argument. I am an awfull speller and usually don’t proof read …so for that you dismiss my comments. good for you.
I used capitals to distinguish my comments from yours …didn’t mean to shout.
I do take you seriously (not in a good way) and you seem to give the benefit of the doubt to obama. I do not give obama the benefit of the doubt. I TAKE HIM AT HIS WORD AND BY HIS DEEDS. redistribution of wealth has never been a good thing especially when done by a partisan.
there is always rationing of health care …even more so when the government adds it’s beaucracy to the mix. there will be commitees to determine what proceedures are going to be allowed and who will get them. if you want to call them your “friends”, “gatekeepers” or death panels the result will be the same. you cannot double the administration of health care and then provide the same service with the same money. If you wait for obama to tell you what these commitees will be called then I think you are beyond naive.
as to obama changing his speech ..well I don’t have access to the white house but his speech did not mirror the questionaire that was sent to the schools before the speech. I am sure this is not enough for you …but who cares, lets all wait until it is too late to stop this thug. then we will have the moral ground to say “I DIDN’T KNOW”
unfortunately you strike me as an elitist. you can take that personally if you like.
Obama is as much a Marxists as Bush was a fascist.
We heard a lot of the same rubbish when Clinton was in the White House.
A bunch of chicken little nonsense fueled by marginal people doped up on their own power-hungry fantasies. Turn it off and don’t underestimate the almighty power of the status quo.
39 Potter
excelent post
Obama is as much a Marxists as Bush was a fascist.
We heard a lot of the same rubbish when Clinton was in the White House.
A bunch of chicken little nonsense fueled by marginal people doped up on their own power-hungry fantasies. Turn it off and don’t underestimate the almighty power of the status quo
Paul in MI
you are the first one who I have seen call them nazi-style death panels …is nazi style supposed to be hyphenated ?
you are right…. why don’t we call the commitees …”friends of the soon to be departed”
I thought you were an elitist and now think you may be a troll as well.
Please. Lets us stop with Czars.
COMISSARS!
@27. BC: – I recently discovered that Politico can be manipulated into removing a post if enough right-wingers complain, regardless of the content.
Clearly you’ve never been to DailyKos or any of the other astroturf sites.
Honestly, I can’t blame you there.
It’s amazing how ignorant the Medveds of the world are. The early signs of totalitarianism are there in the Obama/Pelosi/Reid axis. Although still early, Obama’s attempts to push out there his civilian defense force, shut down of the internet, shut down of talk radio, use of teleprompter speeches to distribute more kool-aid, and the vast number of statists/communists/socialists that work in his administration along with the unaccountable czars is so obvious and blatant it is amazing that so few in the elite have caught on.
The perfect example of the foolish insider who simply cannot believe in dangerous motives of Obama is John McCain.
Thanks for the well-considered response, Paul.
If I understand you correctly, your main issue with the HC rationing debate is the use of the term “death panels”. But since we both agree that under Obamacare there will inevitably be some form of faceless government bureaucracy making budgetary and procedural decisions that affect whether people get the care and attention they need/wish to sustain their lives, what difference does it make what you call it? Sometimes in a complex political debate a measure of hyperbole is necessary to wake up your target audience and galvanize them into opposition.
Besides, given Obama’s voting record on partial birth abortion (Born Alive Infants Protection Act); his policy of funding to support international abortions (“Mexico City Policy”), his public statements regarding the use of painkillers versus necessary life-saving surgery for older patients; revitalization of “Your Life, Your Choices” to encourage veterans to consider how much of a “burden” they are on everyone; mandatory end-of-life counselling for ill seniors; and, most damningly, the existence of extreme eugenicists like John Holdren and Ezekeil Emmanuel as his close, high level HC advisors, is it really a stretch to believe that there will be decision making panels that result in some form of mandated death?
It may not sound nice to those searching for a more pleasant (and less effective) euphemism, but panels that make decisions that ultimately bring about premature death may also be called –– not incorrectly –– Death Panels.
Potter – (39)
You point out exactly why Obama probably wants to keep his medical records secret. People like him always have a crisis in their late teens or early twenties which leads them towards some sort of recovery or to a permanent fantasy state. Obama probably flipped off the treatment after it started and now obviously lives in his own permanent fantasy state. The problem is he’s in charge of our reality and surrounded by self-serving democrats who could care less how much damage they leave in their wakes as long as they get power between now and their own deaths.
If democrats and others who think such an idea is silly or overboard are so sure this guy is normal, then make him fork over his medical records just like all the other presidents have. Until then, this guy is so sick it can’t have gone unnoticed when he was in his younger years, period.
Regards
Creepy! Dangerous!
~ The Infidel Alliance
No joke. I ran across a Obama children’s book this weekend, what other US President do you know of that has children’s books written about him? Indoctrination? You betcha.
http://www.mascotbooks.com/product_info.php?cPath=143&products_id=1648
AMERICA…Obama’s new bi!c#
Where is any discussion from PJM about the latest ACORN fiasco. Where is discussion of how ACORN employees tried to help two people to break tax laws, get them housing, and help them set up an underage prostitution ring.
See youtube.com with its video tape of the event.
Obama’s policy towards Hondurans upholding their constitution is most revealing. Obama is not a fan of constitutions and the constraints they put on power. Obama does seem to have a warm spot for despots.
Paul in MI: I can’t speak to all the issues Mary raises here, but I was in both VISTA and ACORN (the latter briefly, youthfully — the former was a serious commitment that led to other, related jobs).
There are some wonderful VISTA-sponsored programs. But before you enter a program, the first thing they do (and I suspect this is far more prevalent now than it was 18 years ago) can only be called radical re-education. Days of diversity this and reflexively anti-white that — it’s chilling, frankly, and has everything in common with other re-education protocols. If you don’t agree with this world-view, you are not welcome — there is both a litmus test for admission and radical ideological standards enforced through program selection — with our tax dollars, remember.
I was made to go to a seminar where the whites in the room were told they would not have their questions answered, to show them how blacks are allegedly treated (in 1992, in DeKalb County, Georgia, which had a majority-black government and black sheriff and so on, for God’s sake). I was repeatedly lectured and policed at my first job site along the same lines. Later, when I had the time to reflect on the experience, I would say that re-educating me was a significant part of the job itself, rather than “doing things for the community.”
I found all this deeply offensive but kept my mouth shut, knowing I would be labeled a trouble-maker if I spoke out.
If that’s not indoctrination, I don’t know what is. And it is the status quo in the vast majority of these programs. There are exceptions, but the work they do, the organizations and causes they subsidize, are far more radical than most people realize. Rather than dismissing Mary Grabar’s thesis out of hand because you disagree with two or three of her points, please consider the cumulative effect of making a status quo out of these activities — particularly as they impact young people: the education system is increasingly extreme in these ways.
‘Well, since there is actually zilch, nada *real* evidence for Obama’s “authoritarian tendencies,”’
There isn’t as long as you totally ignore everything Obama and co. are doing.
I’d say trying to pass a law that forces everyone in America to buy health insurance is about as authoritarian as it gets.
Count the days, maybe a few months, but mark my words, when Obama doesn’t get his way, when he realizes that a groundswell of opposition has succeeded in destroying HIS narcissistic goals, HIS narcissistic image, HIS narcissistic legacy, we will see his rage take hold, and it will be frightening. His anger and frustration was palpable in the last State of the Union. What will he do when his plans fail? How will he get even? Who will be on his enemies list?
News Flash: Kanye West just named Racial Relations Czar.
That’s part of it, but I think he also has the Charles Johnson syndrome – he feels a need to point to crazies on both sides – real or imagined – in order to inoculate himself against charges of extremism, racism, etc.
That’s a trap. Once you allow your enemies to get away with making you prove your own innocence, you’ll never be able to do it.
41. George S.
This is the third time I’ve told you this:
FIREFOX HAS SPELLCHECKER!!!!!!!!!11
Potter at 39 and 57.
I agree with you completely as to the danger our Republic faces with Obama. I have posted similar, but less well researched, comments elsewhere.
I have known several narcissists and sociopaths during my life.
In my book, Obama is one. He terrifies me.
My hope is that Obama’s narcissistic rage results in petulance and impotence, and not vindictive “transformation” of our society. Thankfully, our Founders’ insistence of separation of powers may be our Republic’s saving grace.
God save our Republic!
There are plenty of things about Obama that bother me, but it has reached a point where I can no longer watch him give a speech. The extreme finger wagging reminds me of some tyrant from a Banana Republic.
And, when his approval numbers fall into the low 40′s this guy is going to really start acting weird.
“It will be outraged parents and bloggers who can see the indoctrination in the leading questions sent out by the White House to children captive before the beamed image of their president.”
~Mary Graber
Don’t rush by that paragraph too quickly. The NEA’s website recommends Saul Alinski’s writings here:
http://www.nea.org/tools/17231.htm
[Found it on Bloodthirstyliberal http://bloodthirstyliberal.com/?p=10588#comments
“President Obama rules this country now and he will lead us into a new world of peace and justice.”–Yes We Did
YWD, your comments validates this article. However, you are inaccurate in your statement. We have 3 branches of government with equal powers:
1) Executive (White House)
2) Legislative (House of Representatives & Senate)
3) Judicial (US Supreme Court)
Congress passes bills which could turn into laws. President Obama signs the bills or vetoes them. President Obama does not rule the USA; he must govern within these other 2 branches & represent Americans. If he does not represent America, we the people will throw him out in 2012. Furthermore, the Congressional elections are next year. With the looming election, the Congress critters are scared. President Obama is desperate thanks to losers like Porkulus, TARP II, & his obscene budget. Cash for Clunkers also is a failure.
President Obama would like to rule; however, this would make him a dictator. Would you like to live under a dictator? Move to Cuba, North Korea, China…Otherwise, you’re saying nothing of substance.
I suggest that Obama is a pathological narcissist, a severe psychological dysfunctionality that is untreatable. The causes are many, and may be due to his abandonment by his father, and his mother and other causes.
But, I suspect that he long ago moved himself into a ‘cocoon’, a world where he must control all interactions with Others. And these interactions must be adulatory and adoring.
If he cannot control how others interact with him, he feels threatened. He’ll react with anger, attacks, and eventually, the Other person simply ceases to exist for Obama. It’s as if you are dead; you do not exist unless he feels he can control y.
He uses three main tactics: misinformation where he’ll lie, misinform etc. Emotional manipulation using hope and fear. Notice how often Obama uses both these tactics. And, if you dissent, he’ll accuse you of bias.
That is, Obama does not use facts to persuade you to agree with him. He does not use information or knowledge. He doesn’t use logical reasoning. It’s all manipulation.
When someone with such a serious psychological pathology is put in a position of power, this need to control is increased..to cover more people. So, Obama needs to control more and more people. As ‘President’ he needs constant adulation, constant exposure to submissive and adoring crowds..and this will increase.
Obama is constantly giving Campaign style speeches; this is a psychological need. This need will become, possibly, overwhelming. And, he cannot handle criticism – he must blame others.
How will his Handlers, the BackRoom Gang that run him, deal with this increasing need and his anger?
I am not using firefox. and this is the first time I see that you posted to me.
I don’t read all the comments.
regards
39. Potter:
“Well, since there is actually zilch, nada *real* evidence for Obama’s “authoritarian tendencies,” I do believe that this technically makes any discussion of said nonexistent tendencies “conspiratorial”.”
Oh, really? Try this.
Understanding Obama, The Making of a Fuehrer
by Ali Sina, 9/22/08
http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html
“Who is Obama?
I went to the link ..wow HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
President Obama has abandoned all pretense of being the President of the United States of America. He is now no more than a drum beater in a political parade. Witness his conduct in Minneapolis. That was not a President speaking. It was a rabble rouser appealing to base instincts of the audience. “I won’t sign a bill unless…” means “The Congress must give me what I want.” It’s I…I…I, not we; unless, of course, he is referring to his opponents who are “all weeweed up.”
Zeke the Sneak said:
“Don’t rush by that paragraph too quickly. The NEA’s website recommends Saul Alinski’s writings here:
http://www.nea.org/tools/17231.htm”
The post you link to was put there by me. I visit numerous blogs. Very pleased to realize that others are catching on to the truth about the NEA. The NEA is in Obama’s league of acolytes, along with ACORN, the Czars, and his circle of radical friends.
We’re slowly discovering that our country is being overrun by radicals who are corrupting the American way of life. I liken these radicals to the creepy insects swarming Kate Capshaw in this scene from “The Temple of Doom” [at 2:09](http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=32695053)
See also the Fox article How Van Jones Happened and What We Need to Do Next,
The books “Modern Fascism: The Threat to the Judeo-Christian Worldview” by Gene Edward Veith and “Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change” by Jonah Goldberg,
and the various articles at American Thinker.
Let’s see: nationalizing the banks, auto companies, and trying to nationalize the health-care industry. Yes, I’d say he’s acting pretty authoritarian.
67. George S.:
Very good article; scary too. The photo of Obama says it all.
What is just as scary is that this country has come to a point where we are so discontent that we could elect a man like this.
ETAB – (65)
… if he cannot control how others interact with him, he feels threatened. He’ll react with anger, attacks, and eventually, the Other person simply ceases to exist for Obama. It’s as if you are dead; you do not exist unless he feels he can control y ou.”
Did you notice how those in the receiving line when he was in Moscow all shunned his offered hand and didn’t shake hands with him? You better believe the Russians had studied the guy and shunned him deliberately. That would put him off balance and make it more difficult for him to respond to anything they had to say. The man was easily manipulated into being uncomfortable and unsure of himself with that incident and several other subtle things. Go look up an unedited version of his Moscow speech and see if he’s got the same sort of delivery as usual or if he seems unable to concentrate. You’ll notice the difference, I’m sure.
This sort of president will be a real asset for our nation when he goes to China, right? The Chinese will wrap the guy into a pretzel and he’ll be standing around grinning like a moron and nodding in agreement to anything they say.
Regards
George S. (41):
Use the HTML “blockquote”, “/blockquote” pair around your quotations (encase them in )
Once again, DIVIDE THE COUNTRY. We signed on to a country based on Western values: The Enlightenment, The Scientific Method, and objectivity. Its not that The Left rejects these principals, its that they simply CANNOT understand them.
For example: A monkey can perform certain brain function at lightning-fast speeds–way faster than we humans (like object identification)–but you’ll have to wait until the end of time itself before you get a monkey’s answer to “what is four divided by two?”. Their brains are simply not capable of performing that function.
Frankly, I don’t think many people are capable of truly understanding these concepts–separating thought from emotion; but for those that can, almost all are on The Right.
George S. (41):
Use the HTML “Blockquote” tags around the text you wish to quote.
I do not see what this article is implying at all. Obama is authoritarian? He.s the President, so I fail to see the shock/awe factor there. He wants to build a better country through volunteerism? is that stalinesk?… sorry folks, I just cannot take this one seriously. So, no opinion offered.
Potter
thank you again for posting those links
…I thought obama was a marxist but now I can see that he is a retard, well a narcissist. the blog is very well written and backed up nicely.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/obama.html
I guess I will not be on hois christmas card list ..but on that other list. It seems there was suspicious activity on the email account I use posting here. maybe coincidence, or some nutter trying to find my identity.
Poor Citizen- true, every President will exhibit some of the qualities mentioned here, but with Obama, they’re pathological.
There have been a LOT of concern trolls posting on the right-wing sites since Saturday.
Kind of annoying, really…
Poor Citizen said:
“I do not see what this article is implying at all. Obama is authoritarian? He.s the President, so I fail to see the shock/awe factor there. He wants to build a better country through volunteerism? is that stalinesk?… sorry folks, I just cannot take this one seriously”
Well then, consider this:
House Passes Hitler Youth Bill
March 24, 2009
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/03/house-passes-dear-leaders-hitler-youth.html
“Volunteerism” has a way of morphing into something more sinister, as history has shown.
Hitler Youth
by Michael Kater
http://books.google.com/books?id=v9xJPe0QchcC&dq=hitler+youth&printsec=frontcover&source=bl&ots=SLqoKrALpu&sig=SxfbI7N1Le_H9NAlMBGjD0QUh44&hl=en&ei=Y8OuSrPOJIHUsQORsJjDCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10#v=onepage&q=&f=false
I’m not surprised by Medved and other who have made it into the insider-republican clique. This includes the elected republicans who have become nothing but self-serving parasites. The national committee wants to let the country rot so they can win big in the next election. If Obama gets his way the next election will be a farce controlled and orchestrated by the “civilian army.” I won’t even get into democrats who it seems have been bought and paid for by the extreme left. I hope thinking democrats will remember how to recall representatives who don’t represent anyone but themselves or an un-American ideology.
I’m disappointed that some here are practicing the diversion of leftist by focusing on spelling, grammar and punctuation. It’s important, but not to use to belittle what someone says in a debate. Content should be judged; not judge a person based on vocabulary.
How easily we can be fooled! We generally underestimate the number of illiterate individuals, because we fail to appreciate their talent in the art of hiding their deficiency. They know that they will endure all kinds of bad vibes if they admit their condition, so it is far better for them to act as if they could read.
If this was your full time preoccupation, you would become very good at it, as they did, since early in childhood. It’s an essential coping skill to them. It vital!
Psychological projection is sufficently powerful for the literate to imagine that the other person must be literate as well. How often would we challenge the handicapped in such a way that his inability to read would become evident? We learn to get along, which includes granting the benefit of the doubt whenever doubt is plausible (and even when there is evidence that it is not).
How much intellect is required to say something like “There are those who will insist that a triangle can have only 3 corners, but this is indeed a narrow view of the world! If you have experienced the travails of real life, you know better, etc…”
This example is too blatant for most, but how about making statements that are less obviously devious? Politics makes a lot of room for these! For instance, our president has obtained a lot of mileage out of the “hope” mantra.
If you realize how wonderful it is to be an American, you will see through this, as one of the brilliant speakers explained on 9/12: His opening joke was “I thought you might like to hear a black man speaking without a teleprompter”, but then he got serious and asked “What do we need HOPE for? We already have FREEDOM!
Bingo, the faulty triangle is debunked!
Our charismatic president knows how to manipulate 4-cornered and 5-cornered triangles as well as any illiterate knows how to appear engrossed in a newspaper. How easily we volunteer to give the benefit of the doubt to someone who spent time at Harvard and Columbia! He must be really smart, right? No, in fact, he MUST not! This man speaks big words, but he has never grasped really big ideas, like freedom, just to give an example.
Barrack Obama beats all the records of campaign fundraising in history, more than a half-billion dollars! Has any charming idiot ever been pulled by so many strings? There is nothing racist about asking the question. We have a great many smart black individuals in this nation, we did not have to elect an empty one just because it was exciting to elect one!
The mistake of roughly one half of the electorate is bigger than the intellectual shallowness of just one man. And this is not a critic of the Democrats, because many Independents and Republicans voted for him. Americans are idealists, but they also have common sense, and they can recognize their terrible mistake, regardless of how painful it is to do so.
The tea parties are disillusion on a grand scale, and not a minute too soon!
If President Obama is a narcissist, we all have very tough times ahead. Not diminishing that at all, I have to ask: What will become of little Sasha and Malia? What psychological damage happens to children of a malignant narcissist?
44. Middleman:
Obama is as much a Marxists as Bush was a fascist.
We heard a lot of the same rubbish when Clinton was in the White House.
We go to Obama’s childhood: Communist Franklin Marshall Davis. Any such Fascist in Dubya’s childhood?
In Obama’s own words, from Dreams From My Father:
Has Dubya written about seeking out Fascist professors in college?
Obama kicked off his political career at the home of Billy Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. Billy and Bernadine were two of the four co-authors of Prairie Fire, published in 1974. Some excerpts follow.
The book is dedicated to “political prisoners,” which include Sirhan Sirhan, the assasin of Robert Kennedy. (As the peace treaty had been signed in 1973, the Vietnam War could not be blamed for Ayer’s embrace of dictatorship of the proletariat.)
Did Bush kick off his political career at the home of the author of a Fascist tome?
Van Jones, who recently resigned from the Obama Administration, stated in an interview that in the early 1990s he became a communist.
Do we find anyone in the Bush Administration stating they had become a Fascist?
In summary, Obama has a long-standing association with Marxists, with people from the far left, beginning in childhood, through college, through the present. No such pattern for Bush and Fascists.
There are some who will never admit to being wrong or even ever realize they were wrong about Barak Husein Obama. Some are happy under Socialism. Not me or any other freedom loving American.
We are living in interesting times.
This is not good.
84. Gringo,
There are plenty of claims Dubya’s grandfather, Prescott Bush, had connections to the nazis.
As far as the excerpt from Obama’s book. That’s not surprising. As a kid, particularly one at a politically charged time when mixed raced children were very much a rarity, it would almost be expected for him to associate with such people since he probably felt marginalized by a lot of mainstream society.
Of course people change their ways and attitudes, as I’m sure Obama has through the course of life.
Hey, Glenn Beck kicked the drugs and booze (maybe), certainly you could give Obama the benefit of the doubt too, eh?
“Is It ‘Conspiratorial’ to Discuss Obama’s Authoritarian Tendencies?”
No, it’s not “conspiratorial”. It’s “racist”, just like any other criticism of the man or his policies.
Barack Obama the authoritarian nut himself may have already jumped the shark. But the other leftists in power have not turned in their chips yet. Soros and the Moveon types will not abandon their ideal even as their champion beclowns himself. At some point as Obama sinks in public approval and effectiveness they will attempt to “reset.” Since they are leftist thugs, they will look to the last effective “reset” in American leftist politics. Never forget that a fading Kennedy was replaced by an empowered Johnson who rapidly moved to enact sweeping tax and social policy changes “in the memory of” a Kennedy who would probably never have won reelection himself.
Also don’t forget that Kennedy was killed by a loyal leftist who was trained by Communists and who was himself mysteriously killed by a leftist.
What I’m saying is — beware because the fading of Obama is not the end of the story. The real possibility of a “Fire in the Reichstag” type moment will be considered as the same folk(s?) who triggered the financial crisis see their political moment coming to a close.
Beware of next summer.
84. Gringo:
“We go to Obama’s childhood: Communist Franklin Marshall Davis. Any such Fascist in Dubya’s childhood?”
Well, yeah. How about Prescott Bush, not merely a public figure but W’s grandpa and a firm believer in eugenics, (the study of genetic improvement through selecting parents, or racial superiority). William E. Dodd, U.S. Ambassador to Germany in 1937 said, ‘… I have had plenty of opportunity in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi Regime.’ Which ‘ruling families’ was he referring to? Well, Old Prescott was convicted by the U.S. government under the Trading With The Enemy Act in 1942 and fined one million dollars. Brown Brothers Harriman’s affiliate Union Bank- of which Prescott was director- invested huge sums of money into Thyssen Steel, the backbone of Nazi steel production.
Wow, that was easy.
9. steve:
Mary,
God bless you for telling the truth about who and what we are up against.
Medved is a PC coward.
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I don’t know that it’s PC so much as head-in-sand obliviousness to reality. He supported McCain *early*.
Glenn Beck did an outstanding interview recently of David Horowitz, whose comments about Obama being a committed socialist ideologue carry the strength of David Horowitz’s knowledge of the socialist and communist left. Concerns about Obama’s authoritarian tendencies are quite rational and should not be the subject of the kind of comment made by Michael Medved.
To the trolls herre who are arguing that George “W” Bush was a fascist, you need a real education in what fascism was and is — national socialism. Mussolini’s Italy saw one variant. Hitler’s Germany saw another variant. “W” was no national socialist. “W” spent too much money, but he was committed to capitalism and democratic governance under the U.S. Constitution. Obama’s platform is far closer to national socialism than “W”‘s.
You don’t get to chose your grandfather, idiot.
90. N&T,
You can’t ‘choose’ your family.
You can choose your ‘pastor’.
You can choose your ‘friends’.
You can choose your ‘mentors’.
Hell’s bells, you can even choose your ‘enemies’.
Mary, you have written an entertaining article. Medved is one of those who walks on thin ice and tells everyone the ice is okay until he falls through. The evidence is overwhelming concerning the Marxist tendencies of Obama as well as his lack of patriotism.
The threat to America’s freedom is an intimidating reality, but if we just sat back and let him head full speed into Marxism, like he has hinted during his PMS attacks, where would we be now?
Although, Obama is running our country into debt and destroying our cultural fabric; the most tragic aspect of this administration is conducting two wars without objectives or strategic goals. Consequently, our finest young patriots are on the other side of the world engaged in wars without political leadership. This president has no qualifcations to be a war time president. It is a tragedy to send our young patriots into a Muslim Meat Grinder without a purpose.
A war can be won on the battlefield and lost in the political machinations of the peace process. Unless the teleprompter has the answers, Obama is clueless on conducting a war or a peace.
The United States has had many presidents with faults and failings, but we have never had a President that had his loyalty and his patriotism in question. Wars cannot be conducted with a president that loses the confidence of the general population, the military, and our allies.
ETAB, Russians are very prejudiced against Blacks, I’m sorry, I can’t remember the word they use towards Blacks as derision, but it translates as Black Face. That is probably why they didn’t shake hands with Obama, he is considered a lower class human. It is doubly humorous, considering how Blacks have such an affinity for Marxism.
Mary, you should answer your emails.
Prescott Bush’s Alleged Nazi “Ties”.
From the website of the Anti-Defamation League: “To stop the defamation of the Jewish people…to secure justice and fair treatment to all.”
‘How about Prescott Bush, not merely a public figure but W’s grandpa and a firm believer in eugenics’
Yeah, he worked for Planned Parenthood. Lefties ought to love the guy for that. He also worked for the United Negro College Fund…the dirty bastard.
‘There are plenty of claims Dubya’s grandfather, Prescott Bush, had connections to the nazis.”‘
Yeah, and they’re 100% hogwash too.
“Old Prescott was convicted by the U.S. government under the Trading With The Enemy Act in 1942″
A bald-faced lie.
The usual lefty crap. All lies, all the time.
He knowingly appointed 37 “czars” as advisors,
Several are communists, radical believers in the Almighty State, forced abortion advocates, on-the-record Jew haters, etc, etc…. Susan Powers and Rashid Kalidi whisper words in his ear.
He attended a black-power Church for 20 years where the resident Pastor counts Calypso Louis as a close friend, can’t keep his trap shut about “all them Jews”, and has been caught saying words like “Whitey” and “White Devils” many, many times. 20 years……
He sat on the Board of a major “non-profit” with a self-described Marxist, Radical and “enemy of imperialist America”. A planter of bombs, and planner of murder. Our President had his first political fund raiser in the home of Bill Ayers. Take Bill’s wife’s words as she meant them….”hide your children”.
He opposes all private ownership of firearms, depsite his rhetoric to the contrary (research his record).
He never held a real job, but was a “community organizer” in a “community organization” founded by the Marxist Saul Alinsky, who dedicated his book to Satan, “the first radical”.
But still, authoritarian tendencies? I don’t know about that. Probably not.
95 delia . . .
Proof enough that there is NOTHING a conservative won’t excuse in another conservative. Hey, did you hear about David Vitters’ amendment? How about Tom Foley’s new radio show? George Allen giving up stuffing deer heads in black people’s mailboxes in order to make another run at the Senate? Wonder if he still has that decorative noose? There is good news, though, Sean Hannity is officially safe from being waterboarded. Apparently charity no longer needs any money. Now, let’s talk Nixon, who I think got a raw deal, don’t you?
90. Now and Then – With that criticism of Prescott Bush, pretty much a mere footnote in history, I wonder what your thoughts are on a more prominent individual in the eugenics movement – Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood aka hard-left “pro-choice” visionary?
Here’s just a taste of her views on eugenics – http://www.citizenreviewonline.org/special_issues/population/the_negro_project.htm
Kinda left yourself wide open on that one. Now THAT was easy.
N&T, I’m still waiting for you to call me a racist because I called 0bama’s mom’s nude pictures skanky.
Oh wait…she’s ‘white’… Bummer for U.
“Despite some early financial dealings between Prescott Bush and a Nazi industrialist named Fritz Thyssen”
Clarification:
The dealings weren’t between Prescott Bush and Fritz Thyssen anyway. They were between Fritz Thyssen and William Averell Harriman, a liberal Democrat, who held federal government positions in the FDR, Truman, JFK, and LBJ administrations and also ran a worldwide commercial empire with extensive holdings in Germany, mostly set up in the pre-war years.
Prescott Bush was just an employee of Harriman’s. Harriman called the shots, and what’s more he was obviously doing it even while he held various posts in the Roosevelt administration.
“Prescott Bush, pretty much a mere footnote in history”
He might be a footnote in history, but that doesn’t give lying leftists the right to sully his name as “Now and Then” has done.
Tony Blair, our previous and unlamented leader, has all the qualities and more of Barak Obama.
Yet the US lauded him, and continues to do so, in spite of the fact that he brought this country to its knees and then, like the rat he is, scooped up his money and fled. He is now a multi millionaire with lucrative speaking engagements to the many sycophants in the US who hang on his every word.
We in Britain are still suffering the legacy of Blair and his gang, including the present Prime Minister Gordon Brown, who were supported by, and in their return supported, the Bush administration.
I don’t mean to offend or upset anyone, so please forgive me if I don’t feel the same anguish about Obama that you do. What goes around, comes around
Steve – (96)
“ETAB, Russians are very prejudiced against Blacks, I’m sorry, I can’t remember the word they use towards Blacks as derision, but it translates as Black Face. That is probably why they didn’t shake hands with Obama, he is considered a lower class human. It is doubly humorous, considering how Blacks have such an affinity for Marxism.”
That doesn’t wash given the treatment, enthusiastic treatment in fact, that Colin Powell, Secretary Rice, and several others have received from the same folks. Stick to your convenient stereotypes if you wish, but Obama has been sized up in Russia and elsewhere and will be manipulated like a puppet by those who recognize his psychological condition.
The old saw about Russian racism may hold true at some lower levels, but it doesn’t explain the way Obama was treated in this incident as well as several others. You’re missing some important interactions by sticking to a preconception. Buying that crap about racism being a lens to look at everything through is one of the lefts biggest weaknesses as it keeps them from seeing reality on many occasions. It also makes them easy to manipulate if you play to their preconceptions.
A suspension of analysis is one of the main goals of sloganeering. Now, the left has embedded slogans so deeply in their own thinking that they’re victims of their own tactics. The ablilty of many professors and pundits to look at the current situtation then yell “racism” is proof that they’ve suspended their ability to analyze. The longer they stick to a race based explaination for how people here and elsewhere react to Obama, the better. Doing so keeps them busy with counter-productive reactions.
Regards
Regards
Another fine piece of fiction by the lost East European soul Grabar.
Followed by the usual drivel.
Luckily, the sun is shining outside.
106 vivo:
Having been subjected previously to the salami techniques of a Communist takeover, people from Eastern Europe (some might say Central Europe), remember how it was done, and what it was like to live under Communism. They have a keen nose for it: “won’t get fooled again.” Perhaps because I grew up in a small town with many refugees from Communism and Nazism- most of them from Eastern/Central Europe- I am not going to cavalierly dismiss their perspective of extreme skepticism about those from the left who say “we are here to help you.” In later years my fellow employees included people who had escaped from Hungary and Cuba. Dismiss their hard-earned perspective at your peril.
In Argentina and many other parts of the Spanish-speaking world, “vivo” means con man, scam artist.
Whether Obama can inflict a form of dictatorship upon this country is doubtful – however, as it was many times remarked before, Obama is not a visionary of MLK type, but a post-colonial, African blowhard type, whose chief motivation for political action/rebellion & further slide in absurd (but so decorous) dictatorship is just envy and resent for bwana living in the white cottage.
And Obama’s pantheon of African revolutionaries has indeed some edifying figures – Lumumba, Mobutu (# 1 & 2), Chombe, Bokassa, Amin Dada, Taylor (hey, Taylot was a NYC Community college student at the time Obama was “immersed” in studies with Ayers at Columbia), etc…
So, this is the crew and the grotesque line on which Obama’s dictatorhisp would advance in America in case of success – which I doubt.
But, considering the ways of the world, never discard somber anticipation…
RE #106/ vivo: “[...] Another fine piece of fiction by the lost East European soul Grabar. [...] Luckily, the sun is shining outside. [...]”
Vivo, slimy ACORN worm, the sun is not for annelide! Crawl back under your rock!
RE #2/Yes We Did: [...] We won, you lost, and you will not get another chance. President Obama rules this country now and he will lead us into a new world of peace and justice.[...] The time of oppressive white male sexists and racists is past. Just shut up and pay the reparations that your erstwhile victims so richly deserve. [...]
Mental giant “Yes We Did” – part of the reaparations package for you would be sun glasses, shiny pens, yellow shoes, and the rest of a Tonton Macoute accoutrement.
BC & “Yes We Did” and other trolls, how do I get your job? You know, getting paid by Soros et all for making inane comments on conservative forums. What a great job! Any moron can do it and you get paid!
Re: Mary Grabar’s Michael Medveed mention:
Mary, Michael’s situation in radio business resembles for me Charlie Johnson’s situation in blogging – both try to cater to too many quarters of the political spectrum, with results like the one you mentioned. Medved’s observation is of course absurd -
One of my Obama-voting relatives actually used the word ‘communism’ to describe the never-ending nationalization going on. Of course this is someone old enough to remember Stalin, Kruschev and the rest, not just Hugo and his smiling pals who fool so many people today.
Yes, Vivo (106), the drivel seen here comes from an ignorant audience that certainly suits the pedagogical ‘approach’ (half truths disguised as research) of Ms Grabar. When she’s faced with students of university caliber, she is appropriately labeled (on average) by those students as one of the worst teachers they have ever faced (RatemyProfessor.com).
Rashputin, ouch, I have been whipped soundly and I am glad to concede the point to superior analysis. Yes, I remember how Rice and Powel were received, it was impressive and heart warming. I was worried back then, concerning their reception, because of preconceived notions gleaned from contact with many Russians on a business level.
Obviously, their current administration is discerning in evaluation of world “Leaders.” They are not enchanted by the “Hope and Change” mantra.
RE #114/Albert: [...] Ms Grabar. When she’s faced with students of university caliber, she is appropriately labeled (on average) by those students as one of the worst teachers they have ever faced (RatemyProfessor.com). [...]
Yo, fool dba Albert: Albert, I gather from your astute insight that a prosecutor’s achievement should be rated according to his/her degree of popularity amongst jail inmates.
And now crowl back under your ACORN rock, worm.
So…university students are the metaphorical equivalent of inmates, are they?..a fine view of education (that is meant sarcastically… just in case…). Surely, Mr Misanthropicus you wish me to crawl. not crowl!
105. Rashputin:
Steve – (96)
“ETAB, Russians are very prejudiced against Blacks, I’m sorry, I can’t remember the word they use towards Blacks as derision, but it translates as Black Face. That is probably why they didn’t shake hands with Obama, he is considered a lower class human. It is doubly humorous, considering how Blacks have such an affinity for Marxism.”
That doesn’t wash given the treatment, enthusiastic treatment in fact, that Colin Powell, Secretary Rice, and several others have received from the same folks. Stick to your convenient stereotypes if you wish, but Obama has been sized up in Russia and elsewhere and will be manipulated like a puppet by those who recognize his psychological condition.
The old saw about Russian racism may hold true at some lower levels, but it doesn’t explain the way Obama was treated in this incident as well as several others. You’re missing some important interactions by sticking to a preconception. Buying that crap about racism being a lens to look at everything through is one of the lefts biggest weaknesses as it keeps them from seeing reality on many occasions. It also makes them easy to manipulate if you play to their preconceptions.
A suspension of analysis is one of the main goals of sloganeering. Now, the left has embedded slogans so deeply in their own thinking that they’re victims of their own tactics. The ablilty of many professors and pundits to look at the current situtation then yell “racism” is proof that they’ve suspended their ability to analyze. The longer they stick to a race based explaination for how people here and elsewhere react to Obama, the better. Doing so keeps them busy with counter-productive reactions.
Regards
…just a thought …regarding the different treatment of Powell and Rice. the russians respect strength.
Steve – (115)
“Rashputin, ouch, …
LOL, oh, that isn’t really how I intended it. I have a good many Russian friends and understand where your opinion would be coming from. The thing is, Russians have a great way of doing what they need to do no matter what they’d like to do. They’ve also been keeping close watch on the crowd Obama runs with for forty years and know a lot more about him than almost anyone in this country does.
Regards
@117. Albert: – So…university students are the metaphorical equivalent of inmates, are they?
Yes. Specifically, the ones running the asylum.
RE #117/ Albert: [...] So…university students are the metaphorical equivalent of inmates, are they?..a fine view of education [...]
Albert, correction vis-a-vis the university students/ jail inmates analogy: the correct description for most contemporary American universities is “liberal plantations” – and in case the crowl/crawl issue still confuses you, follow the instruction: “Now CREEP under your ACORN rock!”
116, 120
The metaphors for university students is now becoming so mixed that we might need the help of an ‘almost’ university English professor like Mary Grabar (you know – the kind of prof that can’t get a full time job) to straighten this all out. Mary, perhaps you can tutor your charges here about how to reconcile the images of university students as prisoners, and asylum inmates with the reality that university students have more freedom, and freedom of expression than the occupants of almost any other institution in society.
Re #122/ Albert: [...] how to reconcile the images of university students as prisoners, and asylum inmates with the reality that university students have more freedom, and freedom of expression than [...]
Still wiggling, ACORN worm Albert? What you can’t comprehend it’s been for long and correctly described as “mental chains” – no matter how “free” one dresses or moves around, etc. “mental chains” make one a slave more than iron chaines.
“Die Gedanken sind frei!” remember?, or Sojenytzin’s musings on the fredom he sometimes felt while locked in Goulag are common illustrations of mind’s ability to defeat physical coercion – yet at the opposite end of this achievement looms the mental slavery in which the liberal plantations’ (read: universities) slaves (i.e. students) wallow.
Mental chains: political correctness, non-judgementalism, cultural relativism, all designed and successfully inflicted upon immature folks to keep them in slavery – freedom of expression as vulgarity, foul language, promiscuity, fashion, etc. are just Saturnalia swill thrown to some drunken slaves by contemptuous liberal masters. And there isn’t a better illustration of today’s college students than the slaves in Plato’s cave, held there by mental chains.
By the way, your ACORN thing took another hit one hour ago, check the news – you really need the “freeing” power of a crack shot on the taxpayers’ expense.
@122. Albert: – university students have more freedom, and freedom of expression than the occupants of almost any other institution in society.
…as long as they conform to the speech codes, don’t utter anything to which someone else might take offense, don’t read the “wrong” books, don’t invite Ann Coulter, Dan Pipes or representatives of The Minutemen to speak on campus, sure, they have all the “freedom of expression” in the world.
What solar system did you say you’re from again?
RE #117 etc/Albert/Vivo other ACORN trolls:
By the way guys, since I remember you praising Che, Castro, Mugabe, Guevara, and you kind of know all the community activists across the country – how do you rate as as political preparadness Stalin Felipe (one of the Hofstra U community activists)?
Probably well – oppression! Bill Ayres, Jane Fonda, Van Jones, Mike Nifong, Kayne, Stalin Felipe!
Poor Stalin! Poor Stalin! The Long island police acted so stupidly! What acts can oppression push a nice community activists like Stalin do!
Sure Eric Holder is 500% behind Stalin, too – time to talk race again -
MS.Grabar: It’s conspiratorial only to a freedom-hating stalinist(called liberals) in the US,who want to suppress free speech.
#102.Delia…..Let’s not forget about all the black pastors that called Obama’s mother ‘white trash’, and no one blinked an eye.
It should be apparent by now to any thinking person that the administration of President Obama is bent on (1) cementing itself in power; (2)creating a society in which individual wealth is destroyed (except for the politically favored); and (3) bent on accomodating the likes of Chavez, Ahmadinejad and his boss Khameni to the detriment of United States of America whose constituion the President is sworn to defend and uphold. He has no sense of the consequences of his actions. His recent speeches in support of the so called “health care bill” were and are not presidential. “Trust me” he says, “I won’t sign any bill which will raise your taxes.” The problems being created by the President and the congressional Democrat majority are quite threatening to the safety and well being of the people of this country and what is worse, they seem ignorant of what they are in reality doing.
As the inane ad hominem arguments displayed here by trolls only serve to emphasize, Mary Grabar has once again hit the mark perfectly. Very nice indeed!