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	<title>Comments on: Iranians and Saudis Fight a Proxy War in Yemen</title>
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		<title>By: Ruvy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/iranians-and-saudis-fight-a-proxy-war-in-yemen/#comment-447755</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I keep waiting for HizbAllah to attack us wondering why - and finally it is revealed.  The Wahhabis are duking it out with Houthi Shi&#039;ites, and HizbAllah is part of the Houthi alliance - the new Persian empire.

It&#039;s good to know these things....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I keep waiting for HizbAllah to attack us wondering why &#8211; and finally it is revealed.  The Wahhabis are duking it out with Houthi Shi&#8217;ites, and HizbAllah is part of the Houthi alliance &#8211; the new Persian empire.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to know these things&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: NCBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>NCBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Attorney General Holder has just announced that any Yemeni, Saudi or Iranian captured (I been &quot;arrested&quot;) in these military conflicts will be tried in NYC as soon as the courtroom is available. The alternative of a written citation (&quot;ticket&quot;) is also being considered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attorney General Holder has just announced that any Yemeni, Saudi or Iranian captured (I been &#8220;arrested&#8221;) in these military conflicts will be tried in NYC as soon as the courtroom is available. The alternative of a written citation (&#8220;ticket&#8221;) is also being considered.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Madigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Madigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;NUCLEAR POWER&lt;/i&gt;

The Russians are helping the Iranians with their nuclear power. After we deal with the Iranian government, and after we spend tons of money and after we waste thousands of man hours dealing with Iran, the Russians will simply move on and supply some other America-hating regime with nukes. I&#039;d guess Syria will be next, but the possibilities are endless. 

The goal of the Russian game is to deplete our economy by making us play unnecessary wargames. The best way to deal with this is to remove the middleman. If we have any threats to make, make them against Russia, not small and relatively worthless regimes like Iran. Yes, we need to decimate the current Iranian regime, but we need to put the nuclear issue where it belongs - with Russia. 

We&#039;re playing the same game of nuclear poker that we&#039;ve been playing for years, but for some odd reason, we&#039;re afraid to face the facts about the real players. I don&#039;t know why - I guess it&#039;s because we&#039;ve all gotten so used to terrorist wars of proxy, we can&#039;t face old-fashioned MAD.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>NUCLEAR POWER</i></p>
<p>The Russians are helping the Iranians with their nuclear power. After we deal with the Iranian government, and after we spend tons of money and after we waste thousands of man hours dealing with Iran, the Russians will simply move on and supply some other America-hating regime with nukes. I&#8217;d guess Syria will be next, but the possibilities are endless. </p>
<p>The goal of the Russian game is to deplete our economy by making us play unnecessary wargames. The best way to deal with this is to remove the middleman. If we have any threats to make, make them against Russia, not small and relatively worthless regimes like Iran. Yes, we need to decimate the current Iranian regime, but we need to put the nuclear issue where it belongs &#8211; with Russia. </p>
<p>We&#8217;re playing the same game of nuclear poker that we&#8217;ve been playing for years, but for some odd reason, we&#8217;re afraid to face the facts about the real players. I don&#8217;t know why &#8211; I guess it&#8217;s because we&#8217;ve all gotten so used to terrorist wars of proxy, we can&#8217;t face old-fashioned MAD.</p>
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		<title>By: baal</title>
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		<dc:creator>baal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>14. Mary Madigan:
Yep. Word. Agreed.
Two Words:NUCLEAR POWER.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>14. Mary Madigan:<br />
Yep. Word. Agreed.<br />
Two Words:NUCLEAR POWER.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Madigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Madigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The operative goal of Iran is to cause instability in the states (Iraq) where it thinks it can gain advantage, and if aiding AQ will do that, then they will do that.&lt;/i&gt;

But in Yemen, it is clear that al Qaeda and the Yemeni government (and the Saudi government) are more closely allied than al Qaeda and Iran ever were. 

And yes, the conflicts in the muslim world make for strange bedfellows and marriages of convenience, but there is no reason for the American government to support Saudi al Qaeda or Iran. The state department will tell us that we (and Israel) must ally with Saudi Arabia for economic and political reasons, but that&#039;s just not true. Many members of our government profit greatly from their friendship with the Saudis, but the American people just suffer because of this relationship. We don&#039;t even get most of our oil from the region. Most of our oil comes from the Western Hemisphere.

The people who tell us that we must be allied with the supporters of al Qaeda are lying. They don&#039;t HAVE to be allied with the Sauds, they WANT to be allied with them.  And they will do anything they can to maintain this alliance, including placing the blame for Saudi actions on any number of  usual suspects. 

According to state department spin, first it was Saddam who was allied with al Qaeda, now it&#039;s Iran. Give me a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The operative goal of Iran is to cause instability in the states (Iraq) where it thinks it can gain advantage, and if aiding AQ will do that, then they will do that.</i></p>
<p>But in Yemen, it is clear that al Qaeda and the Yemeni government (and the Saudi government) are more closely allied than al Qaeda and Iran ever were. </p>
<p>And yes, the conflicts in the muslim world make for strange bedfellows and marriages of convenience, but there is no reason for the American government to support Saudi al Qaeda or Iran. The state department will tell us that we (and Israel) must ally with Saudi Arabia for economic and political reasons, but that&#8217;s just not true. Many members of our government profit greatly from their friendship with the Saudis, but the American people just suffer because of this relationship. We don&#8217;t even get most of our oil from the region. Most of our oil comes from the Western Hemisphere.</p>
<p>The people who tell us that we must be allied with the supporters of al Qaeda are lying. They don&#8217;t HAVE to be allied with the Sauds, they WANT to be allied with them.  And they will do anything they can to maintain this alliance, including placing the blame for Saudi actions on any number of  usual suspects. </p>
<p>According to state department spin, first it was Saddam who was allied with al Qaeda, now it&#8217;s Iran. Give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: baal</title>
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		<dc:creator>baal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>11. Mary Madigan:
I hate to say it, but as long as we are connected at the hip to the Saudis...we are going to go from compromise to compromise in terms of our own security. Just imagine how many nuclear power plants that could have been built with $787 billion...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>11. Mary Madigan:<br />
I hate to say it, but as long as we are connected at the hip to the Saudis&#8230;we are going to go from compromise to compromise in terms of our own security. Just imagine how many nuclear power plants that could have been built with $787 billion&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Old Soldier</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When are the Saudis going to get over their bigotry and accept that Israel should be a regional ally?  They certainly share many common interests.

A joint Israeli - Saudi strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities is far more likely to succeed than Israel alone.  Together they could also deal with Iran’s direct and proxy retaliations far better than either alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When are the Saudis going to get over their bigotry and accept that Israel should be a regional ally?  They certainly share many common interests.</p>
<p>A joint Israeli &#8211; Saudi strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities is far more likely to succeed than Israel alone.  Together they could also deal with Iran’s direct and proxy retaliations far better than either alone.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Madigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Madigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The military capabilities of the Iranians are expanding rapidly.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, the Iranian government is a serious problem. So are Saudi supporters of terrorism. If we only deal with one of these enemies, the terrorists win. Better to find a way to deal with both problems. 

Since we&#039;ve been working with Saudi supporters of terrorism for a long time, they are pretty easy for us to deal with without any large scale military action. We can learn some lessons from how the Russians and Iranians dealt with Muqtada al-Sadr, the Shi&#039;ite leader who was once called the most dangerous man in Iraq. When the Iranians and Russians decided that they were tired of working with him, he disappeared for months, and his armies were decimated. I think he ate some bad sushi...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The military capabilities of the Iranians are expanding rapidly.</i></p>
<p>Yes, the Iranian government is a serious problem. So are Saudi supporters of terrorism. If we only deal with one of these enemies, the terrorists win. Better to find a way to deal with both problems. </p>
<p>Since we&#8217;ve been working with Saudi supporters of terrorism for a long time, they are pretty easy for us to deal with without any large scale military action. We can learn some lessons from how the Russians and Iranians dealt with Muqtada al-Sadr, the Shi&#8217;ite leader who was once called the most dangerous man in Iraq. When the Iranians and Russians decided that they were tired of working with him, he disappeared for months, and his armies were decimated. I think he ate some bad sushi&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: baal</title>
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		<dc:creator>baal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>7. Mary Madigan: The conflicts in the muslim world make for strange bedfellows and marriages of convenience-Iran, even though fighting through proxies in one part of the world against AQ (afghanistan) may be aiding them in another. The operative goal of Iran is to cause instability in the states (Iraq) where it thinks it can gain advantage, and if aiding AQ will do that, then they will do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>7. Mary Madigan: The conflicts in the muslim world make for strange bedfellows and marriages of convenience-Iran, even though fighting through proxies in one part of the world against AQ (afghanistan) may be aiding them in another. The operative goal of Iran is to cause instability in the states (Iraq) where it thinks it can gain advantage, and if aiding AQ will do that, then they will do that.</p>
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		<title>By: baal</title>
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		<dc:creator>baal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:39:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The military capabilities of the Iranians are expanding rapidly. Not only that--their ability to manufacture sophisticated weapons is expanding as well. Read this and think hard about the implications.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_equipment_manufactured_in_Iran</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The military capabilities of the Iranians are expanding rapidly. Not only that&#8211;their ability to manufacture sophisticated weapons is expanding as well. Read this and think hard about the implications.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_equipment_manufactured_in_Iran" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_equipment_manufactured_in_Iran</a></p>
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