Comments on: Iranian People to the U.S.: Recognize Our Existence!

By: rbell

rbell — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:18:38 +0000

13: John birther Sanford: You are a little sick in the head. Obama is too busy destroying our country to worry about another. The people of Iran don’t deserve their government anymore than we deserve ours. Power always ends up in the hands of evil people. That is why our Constitution was written in such way as to prevent the abuse of power by any one branch. Right now our government is working under the Communist Manifesto as it abolishes private property, negates the will of the people and takes over every economic sector of the country. Next watch how the nationalize the American farm.

15. TCMSOLS: What the hell are you talking about? Obama was not asked to support a political candidate. The rest of your dissertation on nucs is pure garbage. Who are you kidding?

By: TCMSOLS

TCMSOLS — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 15:48:59 +0000

Why would the President side with Mousavi as it was Mousavi who was in opposition to the nuclear deal the Iranian’s had accepted on the 1st of October. While the people on the streets actions are admirable, they are lead by Mousavi. While he may allow more freedoms to the people, he would help in preventing the nuclear program from being resolved. After the leak of the meeting between Israel and Iran and Mousavi announced his opposition to the P5+1 nuclear agreement, all factions in the regime hardened their stance in relation to the deal. In this case President Obama’s caution was well observed, as I could image the media if he had sided openly with the opposition of Mousavi and then had Mousavi scuttle the deal which the P5+1 had put forward and had been accepted by the regime. Apart from that it strategically it makes little difference if the people of Iran gain a small amount of freedom under Mousavi, it is the nuclear issue that is the foremost issue for America. The President made a wise choice, which showed back bone in the face of pressure from what was happening on the streets of Iran, from the US and international media and the Republicans. The Iranian people are being used as puppets by Mousavi as he wishes to gain control of the nuclear program as they have break-out capacity. The ‘reformists’ as they were involved in the program early on see it as their god given right to be in control of. They are fighting about the nuclear program not democracy or freedom. It was decided that the situation was fluid and it would be allowed to play out, the seeds are their for a revolution among the people but they lack the leadership and the social demographic in the social stratification for an overthrown Meir Dagan’s assessment on the post election events proved correct.

By: Mike2

Mike2 — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:31:18 +0000

Obama could care less about the Iranians who want freedom. He is in total sympathy with the mullahs.

By: John "birther" Samford

John "birther" Samford — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 00:25:28 +0000

“Obama told them “No” before. He told them “No” again. What part of “No” do they not understand?”

Apparently the same part that Bush (both of them) Carter, Clinton and Reagan told them.
Make no mistake about it. America owes NOTHING to the Iranian people. They are now reaping what they sowed in 1979. I hope they enjoy it.
Bomb, bomb, bomb,
bomb bomb Iran.
Iran is the fount from which terrorism gushes. Destroy Iran and we will have plugged that fountain. It is to late to end terrorism, but the end of Iran will cut it to a trickle.

By: David W. Lincoln

David W. Lincoln — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:39:23 +0000

A challenge to those who think that the US will still have as much clout when the Repubs take control of Capital Hill, as when the US had its greatest amount of power: Why wait until then to get rid of the hordes of deformed souls, zombies, and other assorted ilk inside the Beltway, and their allies on Wall Street and Universities?

There are people demonstrating today in Iran for their freedom. And they want their freedom now, instead of later.

In other words, why encourage Iranians to effect
regime change now, and wait for it in Washington?

For this is a double standard which is being employed.

By: wondering

wondering — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:22:53 +0000

The people of Iran are very brave, there is no doubt about that.
Yet, they do not see their problem. This uprising and the many more to come are a result of Islam. All leaders under Islam are pretty much the same as the one they have.
When they can finally face the real problem, maybe then, they’ll find freedom.

By: ic

ic — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:29:16 +0000

US to the Iranian people: you should never rely on us, the unreliable. You are lucky you’re not our ally. Look at Poland, Afghanistan and Israel. If you are afraid of your mass murdering politicians, don’t look to us, our president is quaking in his boots too.

Stand up for yourselves, good luck and good night.

By: Marc Malone

Marc Malone — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:14:25 +0000

Obama told them “No” before. He told them “No” again. What part of “No” do they not understand?

By: David W. Lincoln

David W. Lincoln — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:38:13 +0000

The only American government which would recognize the existence of the Iranian people who are on the receiving end of man’s inhumanity to man from
the current horde of deformed souls, zombies, and other ilk who have their paws on the levers of power in Teheran, that government is a US government in exile. Because there is another batch of deformed souls, zombies and other ilk who have their paws on the levers of power, and they are inside the Beltway.

By: eon

eon — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 14:03:20 +0000

As i have said before, Obama is a prisoner of his own “progressive” and “multicultural” dogmas. He literally cannot criticize the Iranian theocracy, because to do so contradicts one of the basic tenets of modern-day progressive “thought”; that “Eastern, mystical” beliefs are inherently right and good, and those that openly despise “evil” Western civilization are particularly so.

Also, he is trying (almost desperately) to find a way to “get next” to the Islamists of the world, mainly in the (probably mistaken) belief that if they see us as “non-combatants” in their war against the modern world, they will stop attacking us. At which point he can “declare victory”, much as Nixon did in Vietnam, and bring our military home. (To gut it so he can spend the money on remaking our society instead, of course, just like his idol, Jimmy Carter.)

This “policy” will, I believe, be followed by Obama and his enablers to the bitter end, up to and including throwing Israel “under the bus”, for which read, “Off the back of the sleigh to the wolves”, as in the old Russian boyar custom with peasants in the winter. (Another idea he has borrowed from Carter, who did just that to the Shah, thereby getting us into this mess in the first place.)

Anyone who, like Obama, believes that we can somehow “defuse” Islamist aggression by “accomodation” needs to consider three things;

1. The typical Islamist treatment of fellow Muslims who do not voluntarily join their “jihad” (hint; the word “murder” is applicable);

2. The treatment of the Iranian people by their theocratic regime’ for the last thirty years (hint; the terms “public executions”, “life imprisonment while being tortured” and “occasional mass killings” are all applicable);

and

3. The fact that Khamenei and his fellow theocrats are just that; theocrats, not pragamtists, who are operating on an eschatological worldview and timetable of their own conception, divorced from objective reality (hint; think “willing to start a nuclear war if that’s what it takes to goad the Twelfth [Hidden] Imam into revealing himself”).

Seen in the light of actual reality (as opposed to the “virtual reality” inside the White House these days, which is about at the “Matrix” level), Obama’s behavior is both unwise and ultimately will probably prove catastrophic.

But seen in the Light Of His Own Countenance, nothing else is likely to happen. The Iranian people, sorry to state, cannot look for help, or even recognition, from a President of the United States who is unable to see their country- or, indeed, the rest of the world, or even the rest of the U.S. outside his own office- as it actually is, rather than as simply a blank canvas for him to paint his own Utopian visions upon.

clear ether

eon