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		<title>By: Ruvy</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/iranian-nuke-crisis-creates-giant-headache-for-nasa/#comment-422139</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:37:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There were no WMD&#039;s&lt;/i&gt;.  Tell me anudder joke while I watch Peter Rabbit hop down the bunny lane to meet Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, Santa Claus and Debbie (who&#039;s had it &quot;doing&quot; Dallas, and wants to &quot;do&quot; more exotic things in life). 

The Iraqis had WMD&#039;s and moved them to Syria, and ultimately the Biq&#039;á in Lebanon, where they remain today, guarded by Syrian soldiers - this gotten from the back-door operation of the Mossad, &lt;i&gt;Debkafiles&lt;/i&gt;.  And guess who they are aimed at?

Us in Israel!

I guess the problem with the article is that there is no clear connection with the scientists&#039; list submitted by Peepee Netanyahu to Putin, and NASA, unless one makes some stretched assumptions.

Bu on the other hand, Americans should have never forgotten that the Russians are ultimately &lt;b&gt;their&lt;/b&gt; enemies, and that fact would one day bite them in the butt, as it is doing now.

I really would be nice to see an expanded space program, but it appears to me that the only folks with the money to do that today are the Chinese, and they will have money only as long as everyone (including them) do/does not dump the worthless dollar or its &quot;treasury bills&quot;.

It always comes down to who gets paid, folks.  And when....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There were no WMD&#8217;s</i>.  Tell me anudder joke while I watch Peter Rabbit hop down the bunny lane to meet Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer, Santa Claus and Debbie (who&#8217;s had it &#8220;doing&#8221; Dallas, and wants to &#8220;do&#8221; more exotic things in life). </p>
<p>The Iraqis had WMD&#8217;s and moved them to Syria, and ultimately the Biq&#8217;á in Lebanon, where they remain today, guarded by Syrian soldiers &#8211; this gotten from the back-door operation of the Mossad, <i>Debkafiles</i>.  And guess who they are aimed at?</p>
<p>Us in Israel!</p>
<p>I guess the problem with the article is that there is no clear connection with the scientists&#8217; list submitted by Peepee Netanyahu to Putin, and NASA, unless one makes some stretched assumptions.</p>
<p>Bu on the other hand, Americans should have never forgotten that the Russians are ultimately <b>their</b> enemies, and that fact would one day bite them in the butt, as it is doing now.</p>
<p>I really would be nice to see an expanded space program, but it appears to me that the only folks with the money to do that today are the Chinese, and they will have money only as long as everyone (including them) do/does not dump the worthless dollar or its &#8220;treasury bills&#8221;.</p>
<p>It always comes down to who gets paid, folks.  And when&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: RAH</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/iranian-nuke-crisis-creates-giant-headache-for-nasa/#comment-421509</link>
		<dc:creator>RAH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russian scientists in Iran are not private citizens as in the US and their purpose would not been allowed unless approved by the Kremlin. Any thinking  as Oler speculates is totally  naive.

 Even if US private citizens were in an country installing  weapons systems. It is with the full knowledge and approval of the US government  or they  would not have got the permits.  If another country was thinking  of hostilities it  would be prudent to warn the US government to recall its  citizens. The State Dept  often  warns US business men and families to leave a country  when hostilities are expected.


 Israel has no reason not to warn. They have trade relations with Russia that were harmed in the Georgian conflict. But they  still have decent relations.

 Israel would also have to  tell the US, but  may  wait until it would be too late to  prevent the US stopping an attack. Apparently  Bush would not sign off on an attack in Iran, but they were told about the attack in Syria at the last minute.



 The intelligence may be wrong that the Israelis warned Russia, but  their have been warnings done before to  allow non nationals to  leave before possible hostilities.  I believe the US was very clear on that before we invaded Iraq and many  did listen.

 The bit about NASA supporting the space station. There really is no rational to  keep that up. That was feel good mission to give purpose to NASA and European Space and Russia. We could let the support  totally devolve to the Russians and Europe. Just  get our people off the station. We can support  a few more shuttle flights.

 The next space station should be for commercial  purposes so its maintenance is supported with efficient and long sighted reasons. Unlike a government PR purpose such as the current  station.

 NASA mission long ago expired. It is basically a research agency now. Let commercial space have its chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russian scientists in Iran are not private citizens as in the US and their purpose would not been allowed unless approved by the Kremlin. Any thinking  as Oler speculates is totally  naive.</p>
<p> Even if US private citizens were in an country installing  weapons systems. It is with the full knowledge and approval of the US government  or they  would not have got the permits.  If another country was thinking  of hostilities it  would be prudent to warn the US government to recall its  citizens. The State Dept  often  warns US business men and families to leave a country  when hostilities are expected.</p>
<p> Israel has no reason not to warn. They have trade relations with Russia that were harmed in the Georgian conflict. But they  still have decent relations.</p>
<p> Israel would also have to  tell the US, but  may  wait until it would be too late to  prevent the US stopping an attack. Apparently  Bush would not sign off on an attack in Iran, but they were told about the attack in Syria at the last minute.</p>
<p> The intelligence may be wrong that the Israelis warned Russia, but  their have been warnings done before to  allow non nationals to  leave before possible hostilities.  I believe the US was very clear on that before we invaded Iraq and many  did listen.</p>
<p> The bit about NASA supporting the space station. There really is no rational to  keep that up. That was feel good mission to give purpose to NASA and European Space and Russia. We could let the support  totally devolve to the Russians and Europe. Just  get our people off the station. We can support  a few more shuttle flights.</p>
<p> The next space station should be for commercial  purposes so its maintenance is supported with efficient and long sighted reasons. Unlike a government PR purpose such as the current  station.</p>
<p> NASA mission long ago expired. It is basically a research agency now. Let commercial space have its chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Cousin Dave</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/iranian-nuke-crisis-creates-giant-headache-for-nasa/#comment-421495</link>
		<dc:creator>Cousin Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Hmm, Marshall man-rating something that Marshall (and its associated contractor army of leeches) didn’t build. We may actually be approaching the key plot point in Heinlein’s “The Man Who Sold The Moon”.&quot;

Hey, cut us a little slack.  The talent to design and build a spacecraft and a man-rated launcher is all here.  SPACEHAB came very close to having a go at it.  

SpaceX and other companies have a sort of advantage in that they don&#039;t have a major NASA installation in their back yard; therefore, they know what path they have to take.  For us in Huntsville, it makes no sense politically or career-wise to cut and run on MSFC if, in the future, space exploration is going to continue to be government-run.  (And obviously the current Administration hasn&#039;t exactly been really big on privatizing; they have very much gone in the other direction.)  If privatization is going to happen, fine; we want a piece of that action too and we&#039;ll jump into the fray and compete.  But guessing and then being wrong is a mistake no one here can afford to make.  We just want someone to make a damn decision one way or the other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Hmm, Marshall man-rating something that Marshall (and its associated contractor army of leeches) didn’t build. We may actually be approaching the key plot point in Heinlein’s “The Man Who Sold The Moon”.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey, cut us a little slack.  The talent to design and build a spacecraft and a man-rated launcher is all here.  SPACEHAB came very close to having a go at it.  </p>
<p>SpaceX and other companies have a sort of advantage in that they don&#8217;t have a major NASA installation in their back yard; therefore, they know what path they have to take.  For us in Huntsville, it makes no sense politically or career-wise to cut and run on MSFC if, in the future, space exploration is going to continue to be government-run.  (And obviously the current Administration hasn&#8217;t exactly been really big on privatizing; they have very much gone in the other direction.)  If privatization is going to happen, fine; we want a piece of that action too and we&#8217;ll jump into the fray and compete.  But guessing and then being wrong is a mistake no one here can afford to make.  We just want someone to make a damn decision one way or the other.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert g. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert g. Oler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rand...I have already told you how the article is flawed...it is a assumption followed by if if and if then something bad happens

it is typical right wing stuff  

Robert G. Oler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rand&#8230;I have already told you how the article is flawed&#8230;it is a assumption followed by if if and if then something bad happens</p>
<p>it is typical right wing stuff  </p>
<p>Robert G. Oler</p>
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		<title>By: Wallace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wallace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 05:15:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;...but it’s not hard to imagine that if he’s going to attack Iranian nuclear facilities, he would prefer to avoid the additional diplomatic complication of killing them in the process and thus wanted to give the Russian regime fair warning.&lt;/i&gt;

I think that giving the list to Russian is more along the line of: we know that you know what we know about the Russian scientists working for Iran. Don&#039;t complain and pretend outraged later on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8230;but it’s not hard to imagine that if he’s going to attack Iranian nuclear facilities, he would prefer to avoid the additional diplomatic complication of killing them in the process and thus wanted to give the Russian regime fair warning.</i></p>
<p>I think that giving the list to Russian is more along the line of: we know that you know what we know about the Russian scientists working for Iran. Don&#8217;t complain and pretend outraged later on.</p>
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		<title>By: Rand Simberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rand Simberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 03:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Iraq is symptomatic of the Shrub administration.&lt;/em&gt;

Neither of which has anything whatsoever to do with this article.  And thus is evidence of your profound sickness, as others have noted.  Again, get help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Iraq is symptomatic of the Shrub administration.</em></p>
<p>Neither of which has anything whatsoever to do with this article.  And thus is evidence of your profound sickness, as others have noted.  Again, get help.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert G. Oler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rand...Iraq is symptomatic of the Shrub administration.

Exaggerate, misstate, then do incompetently.  That was the entire 8 years (except for the 1/3 when he was on vacation).

I know bringing up the main example of incompetence is distressing to the right wing, of course there are so many more

Robert G. Oler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rand&#8230;Iraq is symptomatic of the Shrub administration.</p>
<p>Exaggerate, misstate, then do incompetently.  That was the entire 8 years (except for the 1/3 when he was on vacation).</p>
<p>I know bringing up the main example of incompetence is distressing to the right wing, of course there are so many more</p>
<p>Robert G. Oler</p>
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		<title>By: Robert G. Oler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert G. Oler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 02:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wrong. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. ..

but evidence of absence is evidence...and there was no WMD

Sorry.  I know this has let down all the Fox News crowd, but Rand has a piece on his website about the hot fox babes...so enjoy that

Robert G. Oler</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wrong. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. ..</p>
<p>but evidence of absence is evidence&#8230;and there was no WMD</p>
<p>Sorry.  I know this has let down all the Fox News crowd, but Rand has a piece on his website about the hot fox babes&#8230;so enjoy that</p>
<p>Robert G. Oler</p>
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		<title>By: Fen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:41:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I beleive Israel&#039;s diplomat had a deeper message to convey: there&#039;s now a deadman&#039;s switch on a few nukes, to retaliate against those that enabled Iran, should Israel be destroyed by Iranian nukes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I beleive Israel&#8217;s diplomat had a deeper message to convey: there&#8217;s now a deadman&#8217;s switch on a few nukes, to retaliate against those that enabled Iran, should Israel be destroyed by Iranian nukes.</p>
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		<title>By: Anway</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 01:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Simberg:   There are other possible interpretations of Netanyahu&#039;s delivery of names. Note that meeting one-to-one suggests that Netanyahu wants plausible deny-ability (&quot;Oh no, not that list!&quot;)

a.) It could be a warning of dire consequences to the people on the list.

b.) Many Soviet weapons scientists became unemployed a decade ago.  Maybe they are doing some clandestine freelancing of which Putin would not approve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Simberg:   There are other possible interpretations of Netanyahu&#8217;s delivery of names. Note that meeting one-to-one suggests that Netanyahu wants plausible deny-ability (&#8220;Oh no, not that list!&#8221;)</p>
<p>a.) It could be a warning of dire consequences to the people on the list.</p>
<p>b.) Many Soviet weapons scientists became unemployed a decade ago.  Maybe they are doing some clandestine freelancing of which Putin would not approve.</p>
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