um, aren’t the porn-series not made in the US ? cuz, you were very innovant in that speciality
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take a look in your own businesses, you’ll find out who messed, not us, cuz we aren’t allowed to give you a word, you know already all !

I don’t really understand your question…Are you suggesting that it is acceptable to practice eugenics through murder so long as the economics work out for the wealthy?

No, no, no. First of all this is not eugenics, which seeks to maximize the top, say, 15 percent, but anti-dysgenics which seeks to minimize the bottom 15 percent (or whatever). Secondly, the people who benefit the most from suppressing the unhindered breeding by the non-contributing underclass are the working poor and the working middleclasses. The rich can always just buy themselves high-rise condos, gated communities and exclusive private schools. The person who benefits most from culling the underclass is the non-college grad who roofs for a living and not the Wall Street broker.

You’re argument sounds a lot like the Margaret Sanger’s arguments…and why most Planned Parenthood abortion mills are in poor Black neighborhoods. I think you’re the one who needs to explain how sanctioned murder of minorities is good for you and your children.

First, it’s not murder. “Murder” is a socially constructed concept that has a rather late arrival in human civilization, so “murder” is just whatever society says it is. Secondly, I am not Margaret Sanger. Sanger held that because the average black person had far less to contribute to society than the average white person, something factually true, that black people, in general, had nothing to contribute to society, a logically faulty inference. Unlike Sanger, I distinguish between blacks who are complete dead-weights on society and blacks who contribute to society, and I also acknowledge that some whites are complete dead-weights on society.

Since 1973, 40 million Americans have been removed from our society forcefully

Actually, it’s almost 54 million.

Declaring the battle “unwinnable” to focus on other issues will not solve the other issues. You can polish the apple, but there’s still a worm in it.

But abortion has cullled the underclass is not a worm, in fact, it is an objective measurable benefit. Life that cannot contibute to the society in which it lives IS cheap, and that is simply a statement of brute fact. Your value is based on what you can do for others.

Want to fix the budget? Awesome, me too…let’s expand the tax base to include another 40 million American wage earners.

But the people who were aborted wouldn’t be wage earners. Large portions would be chronically unemployable, they’re not good as employees in any context, and the rest would be menial wage earners in low-skill service sectors. So, the people you’re talking about would be significant tax-consumers, not net tax-payers.

Want to fix social security? Terrific, me too…let’s have a fertility rate that enables the program to support itself, rather than barely replacing ourselves

This only works if you’re getting the top half of the Bell Curve to reproduce. Boosting the TFR in the bottom half, especially the bottom fifth, of the bell curve, actually makes this worse, not better.

Want to have a strong national defense? I’m on board…let’s have a larger pool of military age Americans to recruit from.

You must not be familiar with the military, because who the military wants to fill its ranks is becoming progressively more selective. Today, large numbers of blacks lack the innate cognitive function necessary to score appropriately on the ASVAB to enter the military, and those that do fill the most low-skill positions.

Health care? Energy? How much innovation was sucked out of an abortionists vacuum cleaner tube and dumped as “medical waste”

Pretty much none, because we’re talking about a population that has a mean IQ in the high 80s.

We have LOTS of laws on the books to regulate behavior…what we in the Pro-Life community are asking for, working for, is a law that explicitly protects every American from conception to natural death from having their lives taken unjustly

There’s a phrase for this: mental masturbation.

You said, “outlaw abortion, and women will travel cheaply to other countries for procedures.”

Which is the same thing as saying, “Why bother, people will do it anyway.”

We have LOTS of laws on the books to regulate behavior…what we in the Pro-Life community are asking for, working for, is a law that explicitly protects every American from conception to natural death from having their lives taken unjustly.

I didn’t say that, either. You’re just as bad as that David character at putting words in people’s mouth. I said what I said about a specific subject, and nothing more.

Moderator: Is this place always like this or did I stumble upon an analomous influx of “special” people?

By your logic, nothing should be illegal since people “do it any way.”

I’m not willing to accept the murder of children and victimization of women as “an unwinnable fight.”