Inevitably, Romney Declared ‘Inevitable’
But admittedly, it will take a lot to overturn the psychology of Romney’s momentum. First Trump, then Bachmann, then Perry — all have been ahead in one poll or another at one time or another in the last six months. And Romney plods on, never rising, never falling very far, maintaining an even keel through the roughest of waters. That, too, is a sign that Romney’s “inevitability” may be more mirage than mandate. The candidate has yet to top 30% in any national poll, despite what most political observers believe to be a weak GOP field. He has been criticized by some politicos for running what is essentially a general election campaign for the nomination, leaving his opponents to criticize each other while he stays above the fray.
And part of the “inevitability” tag on Romney has to do with the significant endorsements he’s received lately, most notably from New Jersey Governor Chris Christie. Christie, who took himself out of the race many months ago, nevertheless allowed establishment Republicans to get him to rethink his decision during the last fortnight. It is evidence that Romney may be the inevitable candidate, but that doesn’t mean the establishment has to like it. Romney and the blue-bloods may share the same tailor, belong to the same clubs, even get their hair cut by the same barber — but there has always been something distant in Romney’s demeanor that doesn’t sit comfortably with the GOP deciding class.
Matt Bai fingers the wariness with which many of the elites view Romney:
Romney, who’s supposed to be the establishment front-runner, incites no great passion on K Street and Capitol Hill, where he is regarded as a sort of well-designed political android. “Mitt Romney is a really smart, experienced guy, and he may well be exactly what you need as president right now,” Charlie Black told me. “He’s not a gregarious guy who’s easy to get to know.”
NRO’s Rich Lowry writes of Romney similarly:
As a politician, he impresses, but he doesn’t inspire or connect. There’s a human element that was missing in 2008 and still is. Maybe he won’t need it. But it helps account for the tenuous attachment of voters to him that still makes him vulnerable, even as the talk of his inevitability builds.
The establishment has a herd instinct they can fall back on, and the number of powerful money men who have been moving to assist Romney in the last few weeks has grown substantially. Former Republican National Committee chairman Jim Nicholson, hedge fund manager Paul Singer, and Home Depot co-founder Ken Langone are among the major Republican fundraisers who have recently come out in support of Romney, while other GOP whales appear to be rallying around the front-runner.
Romney must be extremely careful not to allow the inevitability tag to negatively affect how voters view his campaign. As Reagan found out in 1980 in Iowa, the electorate does not like coronations; they prefer contests. Reagan’s campaign took Iowa for granted and the candidate was made to pay for it by Iowa Republicans, who believed the Gipper slighted them by not showing up for the prime debate and making few campaign appearances. The payback came in the form of a win by George H.W. Bush, who was then ambushed by Reagan in New Hampshire.
The surest sign of Romney’s perceived inevitability would seem to come from the Obama campaign. The president’s chief political advisor, David Axelrod, voiced the same concerns of conservatives when blasting the candidate for his flip flops:
One of his problems has been that he hasn’t inspired a whole lot of confidence and enthusiasm among Republicans because across the political spectrum people have the same question: if you are willing to change positions on fundamental issues of principle, how can we know what you would do as president?
The Obama campaign has stepped up its attacks on Romney in recent days, pointing to their belief that he will be the GOP nominee. Is it wishful thinking? A Perry or Cain campaign in the fall would energize millions of conservatives, but would have trouble winning over independents — unless the economy was so bad that an “anybody but Obama” feeling would grip the electorate. Most commentators may have let it slip their mind that the Carter-Reagan race was neck and neck until the last few days of the campaign, when it became clear that the Iranian hostages would not be released. At that point, the contest swung on the economy and even independents who had shown little enthusiasm for Reagan broke for the Gipper by a 3-1 margin to seal the electoral landslide.
With Herman Cain more than competitive in the polls and Rick Perry flush with a $17 million haul in the last quarter of fundraising, Romney is no more “inevitable” in the real world than my pet cat Snowball. And I would hope that Snowy would have the good sense to keep the inevitability talk among the elites and the media where it belonged and not let it infect the GOP campaign for the nomination.






Romney may have trouble holding on to the dog-owners’ vote when the story about how he forced his family’s dog to ride on the roof of his car re-surfaces. That news item never really got the play it deserved back in 2008 because nobody took him very seriously.
The conservative base might have something to say about this. RINOmney is nowhere near the top of the heap. The establishment can decide to move every primary up to tomorrow and he won’t win.
Romney is an establishment statist who favors big government, wrote the blueprint for national health care and still believes in AGW.
We need a conservative that will begin the rollback of the federal leviathan, not someone who will just slow down the growth a little bit.
Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Newt or Santorum are all very good alternatives. After we win the White House, we have to purge the party. And taking back the schools is vital to the long term health of this nation. 50+ years of our kids being brainwashed by Ayers-trained academia trained got us to where we are today.
Bingo!
@ #2 JJS – Oh are you so right. *Children First* should be the Republican war cry to go after O and the commies. The order used to be women & children first in disasters, but women have taken responsibility for themselves and children can’t. Burst into that evil castle of weirdness called Dept of Ed. Rip out the weirdos, and demolish that blackhole sucking our money for evil purposes with children. Guess you can tell how I feel about Arne Duncan and the castle he occupies thanks to O. States must take back their responsibility for education which gives parents responsibility and ability for more direct control. Included in the take-back of responsibilities, we MUST demolish the Federal Reserve which is neither Federal or Reserve, and is a private bunch of characters who we have to sit before Congress/Senate to get answers about OUR money. *Pres* Wilson took the responsibility away from CONGRESS who was to determine our monetary processes, and he gave it to his pals. How the H did THAT happen? Yes, future generations will look back at us and say about many things, How the H did THAT happen! SHOW ME THE MONEY, FED, AND GET OUTTA TOWN, WE WILL RETURN YOUR JOBS TO CONGRESS. So, there you go, save the children which are OUR future and are being used for the last several generations as tools of commies, not many of them knowing anything about our great country; and take back our money. Yeah, we need a lot of other fixes but those two should be the Republicans’ priorities because they are KEY to reclaiming the USA.
Well stated A M &G. It’s nice to see that others hold these truths to be self evident. However, many are afraid of what they may not find in an audit of Fort Knox. How many candidates suggest an audit? I’ve counted only one in 30 yrs.
Removing one silver tongued desperate figure head from a nationally embarrassing international exposure is only one needed step. The impeachment process provided by constitutional authority can prevent the lame duck damage to be implemented after his dethroning, executive orders and all.
Verifying the votes of incumbents responsible for the outcome will be done in a day whereas verifying those cast in any fraudulent general election could encompass a much greater time frame with expected court delays. Let them either uphold or deny their oath of office
All incumbent votes will correctly hold them responsible to their employer. Time is of the essence. Why wait? The rats are already leaving one party ship. When the mass exodus from the hill starts it will take a Mexico City cab driver to navigate the rush. The Farsi speaking kind can’t cut it.
Purge the party? You are funny. You sound like a true soviet.
Who are you defending?
Heh. When it comes to Liberty, there is Liberty or compromise, aka death. You sound like a true marxist revisionist historian.
Lighten up, Frances. When I say “purge” I do not mean Soviet-style left-wing mass arrests and summary executions. I mean, vote out through the electoral process.
Are you a troll or just pretending to be one?
Mike, communists acting as socialists acting as Dems and Republicans are what must be purged from government, education, financial, and medical/social arenas… and purged is the right word. The Declaration directs us that the tree of Freedom must be watered/refreshed with the blood of patriots… and that was an order. Time to purge ‘em.
Exactly, J.J.! You’ve expressed the viewpoints of many.
Ditto that J.J. You saved me a bunch of typing!
The only thing inevitable about a Romney candidacy is four more years of Obama residing at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
Agreed. Romney vs. Obama 2012 would most likely be a replay of Dole vs. Clinton 1996.
Romney is the “anointed candidate” of the GOP establishment precisely because he is a member of same. He can be counted on not to change anything, and besides, it’s “his turn”, in their reckoning; he has enough seniority in the party’s inner circles that he has earned his shot at an unsuccessful Presidential run. The theory being that he can then come back a couple of cycles later and take it, after the Tea Party “heretics” have been either co-opted or have just faded away.
The GOP leadership is perfectly willing to give The One “four more years” of destroying this country, in the belief that it will guarantee them at least sixteen years (two Presidencies) worth of control in return. Which they will use to run the country- just like their cronies on the other side of the aisle.
The “old boy” network in D.C. does not like having to listen to the peasantry. No matter which party they are members of.
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Yes, Romney is a categorical intellectual elitist who buys into the plastic sophistry of DC. He’s pathetic, self-important and knows it’s “his turn”. The self-aggrandizing so-called party leaders want him because he will do as he’s told by his elders and he won’t piss off the socialists, which to the republican establishment means that their precious perches won’t be removed from them.
It’s odd to watch this all from a distance; How identifiable it is. I guess when you’re in the middle of it, you can’t see it, or, you just don’t care. But perpetually what is lacking in a politician is the ability to self-critique objectively.
But then, who the hell would want to be a politician in this climate unless they’re lacking in skills to be successful elsewhere? Those who can, do. Those who can’t, teach. Those who can’t do either, run for office.
Romney is the safe candidate for Washington Republicans (and Democrats). He will be the least likely to make any changes in the size of government, thereby keeping all those lobbyists safe in their K Street castles.
It was a mistake. The family meant to put Romney on the roof.
The Republican Party betrays it’s intentions and members if they too make a mistake and put Romney in the driver’s seat as their candidate. The Party trip must leave him at home to reminisce through his papa’s political records and albums. He’ll be happier. Only two candidates are wearing boxing gloves and bouncing around in the ring ready for Obama. They are Paul and Buchanan. All others are pansy arsed ego motivated characters not committed to the donneybrook which must happen when Paul or Buchanan walk into the Oval Office to clean house throw the commies out.
Who is Buchanan? Bachmann? Perhaps spellcheck ran amok…
Thank you, LeighB for the catch. Too early on Saturday morning. Buchanan is Revolutionary War soldier relative’s name on application just approved for DAR membership so was on my mind. Meant Bachmann!!
Romney is one with the entrenched political class. This is the last thing America needs. We need to get rid of these people as fast as we can. They are the ones who got us into the mess we are in now.
And its really time for the Republican party to quit letting the Democrats and their supporters pick their candidates. We saw how well that worked out last time, didn’t we?
Apparently they learned nothing from the McCain disaster. Put up Romney and I stay home – why should I vote for someone who has spent a career supporting Democrat type policies. Better Obama again to force the crisis needed to bring real change.
The whole point of putting up Romney is to get you to stay home. Anyone stupid enough to not vote against Obama might vote for him.
Romney is a puppet like Obama who will bow to the same one worlders O belongs to. Why bother. Hold our fire (vote) until the right time. At least try to teach the repub powers something. OR write in your choice… it doesn’t look like the repub powers, same as democommies can learn without stronger lessons.
The establishment elites all make the same mistake. They believe that all independents are centrists. Therefore their logic is simple. Have a centrist candidate and he will win the election. They are wrong. Most independents are apolitical. They will vote for a candidate they like, find exciting etc. They don’t care about right or left.
3 years on and the elites have already forgot how the centrist candidate McCain lost to the far left liberal Barrack Obama. They have forgot how staunch conservative Reagan won the independent vote in 1980.
If you want to get the independent vote, you first and foremost must have a candidate who is not boring.
Is Romney boring?
Boringggg!!! Boring because we know he is another cooperator and not committed to our Constitution, Sovereignty, Founding Documents, everything that gave us the chance to be the best country ever on this planet. Boring because we know he is another “bow” to the one-worlders. Boring because he has not said anything not boring in all the airtime he has had on stage. Boring because we know his MA history, his papa’s history. Big Bore. Gotta watch these guys. Glad Christie rolled out to support him… that glues them together forever, ending both political careers. Christie had me fooled until he did that.
You make a terrific point JL. While I don’t know that I agree that most indies are apolitical, I believe a large chunk of them are as you describe. And furthermore, a large chunk of them are engaged and are conservative.
Terry, there’s a quote of Mencken’s that applies here: “The People know what they want, and deserve to get it, good and hard.”
If the Republican Party nominates ORomney, then obviously, they haven’t gotten it nearly hard enough.
over 50. you and everyone else who stays home will be voting for 4 more years of obama and holder. as well as all of the CORRUPT administration,
Vagabond, I want to comment to your reply to *over 50* with an explanation of how I feel about this- in tv news yesterday/today a black guy was released from prison after incarceration for many years for a crime he did not do. He was given *opportunities* at various year interludes to be released if he would only admit he did the crime. The reason the authorities were giving him that way out was to cover their ineptness and guilt in punishing an innocent man, taking many many years of his life. The guy said NO. He said he would rather die in prison than say he murdered the old woman he was accused of killing. During his incarceration he saved himself by developing and practicing his boxing skills. He said all of his life from his youth, he wanted to be a professional boxer. Well, looks like the 50+ y/o man will be in the ring with a 30+ y/o professional boxer and will challenge him soon. He endured hell, but wouldn’t cover the arses of the corrupt inept officials who put him there. THAT man is an AMERICAN. I pray that he k.o.’s the guy he will be boxing with in 1st round. I compare that situation to the repub leaders who are offering the members their prize Romney, but not many of the membership want him. I stand with the brave AMERICAN who endured hell for truth, and now has a chance in HIS *voting booth* -a professional boxing ring – to make his mark. To vote for Romney because the elites chose him as the repub candidate is chicken. Stand for truth, demand a really representative candidate. If you don’t get one, then don’t sign/vote, and bravely wait in hell watching the commies rip our country enough that next election the elites in the Repub party will run for the hills because they will know we won’t cooperate. The great candidate will emerge in the next election who will conquer these rippers and we will put it all back right. Stand Your Ground. NO Romney, Perry, Gingrich. They should never have stepped on stage. Who do that think they are… better yet, we must show them who WE are. Backoff, elite officials. Give Repubs the best candidate, not the puppets. We know.
Well said, Focus. I saw that news segment too and how inspiring this wronged man was (I wished I remembered his name). It fits clearly with what we lowly conservatives want to do: stick to our true principles. Don’t settle for anything less!
What stay home? If ORomney’s the nominee, I’ll go to the polls, vote for Obama, and get ready for the Civil War II.
Palin was the only reason I voted last time. McCain has stabbed more Republicans in the back than Hillary and Barry combined. He would have taken the country in the same direction as Barry,only the velocity would have been more palatable for the sheep. I too would rather see Barry than Mitt for the simple reason that Mitt’s poison will kill the country and our freedom slowly and surely, Barry’s dose is more obvious and hopefully the citizens not swallow it. If McCain and Romney are the best we can come up with I’m done with the Republican Party.
Palin was the only reason I voted last time. McCain has stabbed more Republicans in the back than Hillary and Barry combined. He would have taken the country in the same direction as Barry,only the velocity would have been more palatable for the sheep. I too would rather see Barry than Mitt for the simple reason that Mitt’s poison will kill the country and our freedom slowly and surely, Barry’s dose is more obvious and hopefully the citizens will not swallow it. If McCain and Romney are the best we can come up with I’m done with the Republican Party.
Romney is there to save the permanent political class and crony capitalism. Perry’s record suggests he would do the same with a little Elmer Gantry phoniness that really grates on the establishment. But the voters are awake now. With Sarah out, Cain is the genuine conservative with that “It” factor that engenders trust, admiration and enthusiasm. Cain is said to have a money problem. But people who are the Real Deal can win with far less money (a la Palin in all her races) than the establishment shills. As Cain continues to thwart the media attacks to our delight, the money will come. Stock up on popcorn, those invested in big government and bipartisan corruption are going to have fits.
I’m supporting Perry but I acknowledge his stand on in-state tuition for illegals has severely damaged him with the conservative Republican base – despite the fact that it passed with overwhelming bipartisan support in Texas. When he needed a boost, Perry delivered a poor debate performance that hurt him badly. I’m hoping his energy-jobs package will help but him back in the top tier.
Mitt Romney is not a RINO. He spoke at last year’s Reagan Dinner in my hometown in Iowa. He is conservative and supports the free market over government control. Yes, RomneyCare was a big mistake and he ought to apologize for it rather than defending it, but that is an exception not the rule – and he has unequivocally promised to repeal ObamaCare.
I noted this week that Ann Coulter followed her first pick’s lead (she’s been touting Chris Christie) and endorsed Romney. She’s promoting a Romney-Cain ticket, which sounds good to me. Romney has the private and public experience and polish to attract the independents needed to win the election. If its Obama v. Romney, how many crazy conservatives will really stay home to assure Obama a second term? Face facts: there is no perfect candidate. As Rush admits, even Reagan wasn’t perfect. If Perry doesn’t catch fire and Romney gets some early wins (e.g., New Hampshire), I will have no trouble supporting him. WAKE UP! If Romney is the nominee, the only other choice is Obama. Conservatives will assure the President’s reelection if they either stay home because they didn’t get their way or run a third party candidate, so we end up with the kind of three-way split that got us 8 years of Bill Clinton.
One of the interesting things that have played out recently is the outing of both Ann Coulter and Laura Ingraham. They go for the liberal Republicans and heap ridicule on such as the Tea Party and Sarah Palin. Upper class snobs, I guess. By the way, the term RINO is a misnomer. Liberal Republicans go way back, they are nothing new. But their time is over. These outrageous Tea Partiers in Congress who can’t be bought off or threatened are the wave of the future. It’s all about the survival of The Republic, baby.
Glad to see coulter/ingraham out in the open. . . we need to wake up to these snakes, and render them ineffective- ignore them and expose them. Romney will not be getting my vote. . .
Yes, you called them right. Good to put them in the ignore pile.
I, too, have been very disappointed by both women. Interestingly, they are both single and mingle with liberal men (Ann Coulter with Bill Maher and I remember reading that Laura Ingraham supposedly once dated Keith Olbermann.) Don’t know if there’s any corelation.
“Mitt Romney is not a RINO.”
Oh yes he is. Every bit of this is true.
“Romney is an establishment statist who favors big government, wrote the blueprint for national health care and still believes in AGW.”
Better an Obama who gets nothing than a Romney who gets something.
As for me, I believe in Glenn Reynolds “Syphilitic Camel Rule”, i.e., I will vote for a syphilitic camel over 0bama if that’s what ends up running on the GOP ticket. So yes, I’d vote even for Romney.
/But I might try to talk the camel into running once more.
Romney/Cain??? You are looking for a good master. Wake up man. Those two are clueless. This system is imploding. The Fed, the income tax, the wars, the socialism, the prison industrial complex. One and half trillion out of budget.
Mike
I follow climate news via the Climate Depot blog. Today it points to an article in investors.com about Romney’s stance on the CO2 war promoted by Al Gore. Mass. passed a law against CO2 in 2006, and John Holdren was Romney’s advisor(The same Holdren who once promoted poison in water supplies as a population control mechanism, and is the current White House science advisor). Either he is in the pockets of green energy companies or the carbon traders or he is a fool. The progressive agenda knows both parties.
Thanks for linking them. Gee they sure chain to each other in the one-world government, destroy the USA cult. Like an octopus, their chains flail around grabbing everyone they can. Must keep surveillance on all things Gorey Gore… even on Gorelick who will probably be in the news soon. (not mainstream).
The inevitable certainties are that the politicians will screw the people who in the end, one way or another will even the score; maybe.
Shortly after 911, Bush #43 had the trust of 90+ percent of the people in the palms of his hands, then he up and strolled out on the stage with Senators Kennedy and McCain to smugly denounce the American people as being stupid for not agreeing to amnesty for the illegal Hispanics that had (and have) swarmed throughout our nation. The people evened that score with Obama.
Bush #43′s establishment thinking betrayed the bond of trust the people had given him which blew a giant hole through five or six, maybe even more generations of voters.
As far as this election goes, there is an industrial quality shredder in the entrance foyer of our home. Anything political tossed in the driveway or delivered in the mail goes unopened into the shredder.
Fox Cable News hasn’t been turned on in months. I can hear goofy giggles and watch plastic smiles and leggy camera shots on any local TV station or network channel.
Next year I will vote for who I want to after I have made up my own mind in my own way in my own time.
All I can say for certain now is that I probably won’t vote for Romney, Perry, Cain or _____________.
Indeed, it does seem that the current field of republican hopefuls is a big put-on. They even put up “token” so they can then destroy him at their leisure.
Any hard-hitting true conservative is out, not-to-be-invited. But also, I don’t really see anyone available who’s a true conservative and would tell the republican elite to go pound sand. The elites learned all the wrong lessons about the Reagan years and are in violent fear of letting it happen again.
This shouts loudly as to how they feel about what the people of the nation truly want in a president. They have morphed the presidency into something unrecognizable. They all have misunderstood the presidency to mean, “the boss” while ignoring that little nuance where he serves at the pleasure of the people.
We are fast becoming the redeaux of Ancient Rome where the small percentages at the top may have their infights and disagreements among themselves, but they are identifying that they hate the American people even more. To me, it’s parallel to the way many of them grew up and how they see themselves in generational terms. That is, they are, if you ask them, the smartest people around with degrees and laurels a-plenty. That’s what their daddies told them to strive for and so that’s what they did. Yet they lack that humility, and depth-of-character to understand that they’re NOT right all the time.
Democrat-lite is right. All the arrogance without the fine cuisine. All the wasteful spending without the blame-game. Sheesh. Who needs it?
For me, it’s depressing because I’ve watched this generation my whole life. Not all, but most are very self-serving and really have no understanding of how things work, that is, the physics of daily life. They thumbed their noses at the kids in shop class and whose parents were poor. They lived lives of stratified privilege and always saw themselves as superior.
Those of that generation who have had dirty jobs, who worked hard, were honest, served in the military, kept their noses clean and to the grindstone are of a completely different uptake. They hold their generational “peers” in contempt as I do. They are not afraid to get their hands dirty and know the rewards that life truly has to offer.
But, I guess it’s human nature. I see the little petty political games that emerge with these people. It’s a game that nauseates me. They seem to revel in it, loving the “brinksmanship” of it, for lack of a better way to put it. Me? I just like to get it out there, discuss it in plain terms, solve the issue, move on. They like to manipulate, take people’s positions into account…pay homage to more senior types and blah, blah, freakin’ blah. The end result is some ridiculous procedure or policy that makes no sense or is designed to punish people “not like them”.
It’s deeply annoying as well as unnecessary, costly, cumbersome, inefficient, etc, etc.
But they think they “did some work”.
You wrapped it up nicely.
I particularly enjoyed your take on the “magic” token. Amateurs should leave that kind of thing to the professionals like David Copperfield. Along that line of thinking has anyone figured out what gives with the GOP when it comes to women? Do we really have to wait until after the liberal Democrats elect a woman to be our first female President so we, the GOP can use them as primary tokens?
Conservatism seems to be getting messier.
The older I get the clearer the picture of what it takes to be a politician becomes. To wit, any politician that listens to the people, sticks to the Constitution and tries to live as an earnest human being is doomed to failure before they ever start. To think otherwise would be foolish and/or naive.
However, I will pay homage to all of the Presidents that preceded what is in the Whitehouse now. Obama is the first President that transformed the office into I am the Boss, how dare you creeps (Congress, Supreme Court, Americans, Allies) piss me off.
If that doesn’t illustrate how far we’ve traveled as a nation nothing will.
It is just that we’re a little bit off course from what our founding fathers had hoped for.
“A Perry or Cain campaign in the fall would energize millions of conservatives, but would have trouble winning over independents — unless the economy was so bad that an “anybody but Obama” feeling would grip the electorate.”
There is no reason for doubt at this point, the majority of the electorate will be in an anybody but Obama mood.
“Romney is an establishment statist who favors big government, wrote the blueprint for national health care and still believes in AGW. ”
Which is why I personally am in an, “anybody but Romney” mood. I will not vote for him. I drove hundreds of miles and spent my own vacation time and money to support Bush against Kerry–Romney will get nothing from me. If he is the candidate, neither will the Republicans as such.
The establishment class has contempt for the base because they thing we have no choice. “What are you going to do? Vote for Obama?” And why shouldn’t they? For the most part, we have showed up to vote for McCain, Dole, and two Bushes.
Voting for Romney this time around will only validate that attitude. That is why I will encourage everyone I know to sit the election out or vote third party. We are quickly approaching a fiscal crisis that won’t be fixed by establishment types with more interest in the status quo and their own political careers. Romney will not make the necessary hard decisions to avert disaster. Hell, he can’t even take a position on the campaign trail without sticking his finger in the air to figure out whch way the wind is blowing.
Entrusting Romney with the White House would not avert fiscal collapse or even slow its approach very much. Just as importantly, the media would blame conservatives for the results because Romney has an “R” after his name (even though it should be a “D”).
It is too bad conservatives have been too busy attacking their own and tearing them down for not meeting purity tests to notice they are ultimately aiding the worst of all possible options, Mitt Romney. Personally, I prefer Perry…but Cain, Gingrich, and even libertarian Johnson would be acceptable alternatives.
The unacceptable option is Romney. If he’s the nominee, I will give up on the GOP once and for all, figuring they are the modern day Whigs who need to be swept out the way before the work of saving our country can begin. I might show up on election day to vote for a third party candidate (if there is one I like), but it’s just as likely I will stay home. One thing I will NEVER do is vote for Romney. I’m tired of voting against the Democrats. It is way past time I have someone to vote FOR – and Romney is not that person.
I have a different take on my duty to vote. Even if it is a choice between TERRIBLE and MORE TERRIBLE candidates, I will vote for the TERRIBLE candidate. Furthermore, I try, in my teeny weeny little way, to influence the choice of candidates (including at the local level.) With respect for your personal opinion, I believe this is my duty as a citizen. A ‘stay at home’ voter votes for Obama. You cannot rationalize this away, sorry.
I told myself the same thing in every election from 1988 to now. But what did it get us? The government continues to grow, the deficit gets worse and worse, and the problems become more and more intractable.
Sorry, but as long as we’re willing to vote for “terrible” rather than “really terrible,” terrible is all we will get.
Enough is enough. A vote for Romney is a vote for bloated government, giant entitelements, endless debt, and fiscal collapse. The only difference between Willard and Obamney is Obamney will get us there faster.
It’s time to stand up and DEMAND fiscal responsibility and respect for individual liberty. Voting for Romney doesn’t get us there. I may not stay home on election day, but I sure as hell won’t vote for Romney. I’ll find a third party candidate to support.
The only difference between Willard and Obamney is Obamney will get us there faster.
There is another important difference. We get blamed!
voting for lesser of 2 evils is still voting for evil.
I will write in a name for that section if its romney.
Does the gist of your comment indicate that you are another victim of media “can’t win agenda”? Wise up tater, the only wasted vote is one cast for the lesser of two evils and the cause of the nations perilous situation. Just look for the money trails and watch TV media to see who they push to the front and who they ignore. Their ads are a dead give away verifying the life blood of their biased agenda. Candidates elevated by media performance are risky at best with a single exception to the phenomenon. 2008 should have cleared the fog from both party and media vetted candidates provided for your consumption.
When one knows that they’re right, they need not seek either party approval or media recognition. Both have the opportunity to educate them selves to the superiority of truth to money with intent to adhere to a well informed opinion It may get tougher to find needed info if the FCC grabs control of internet search engine content on 10/20/2011. Hurry hurry hurry!!!
I have had the sense, for some time, that we are seriously looking at the formation of a Third Party. Am I excited about that? No, but the establishment(Dems & Repubs)refuses to listen to the American people, especially those of us who have dog in this fight. They have been bought and paid for by the lobbyists, and their gods are money & power – did you really think they were concerned about your welfare? or mine? I am continually confounded by our stupidity, in that we refuse to even acknowledge that our Founding Fathers provided a solution to the predicament we now face. Its drastic, and some may say, foolish or dangerous. We can change or dissolve what presently exists.(Never mind – I’ll go quietly)
“For the most part, we have showed up to vote for McCain, Dole, and two Bushes.” No; conservatives didn’t show up to vote for Bush 41 in 1992, conservatives didn’t show up to vote for Dole in 1996, and some but not enough conservatives showed up to vote for Sarah Palin in 2008; that’s why they lost. Bush 43 was able to win against some very lame opponents because he was about as conservative as Perry (who should probably spend some time clarifying whether or not he wants Mormons and Catholics to vote for him; his pastor and wife have indicated otherwise recently).
The “Party” can’t put anyone on the ticket. $1 million dollars is not 1 million votes. K Street can’t out-vote Main Street.
The only reason Romney might win (aside from being the only cnadidate that actually has a foreign policy or seems to have given it any thought at all)is because the choices the conservative base has are many, varied and quite good (far from being a “weak” field IMHO.) While I lean more toward Cain/Gingrich/Paul (fiscal/small government) others like Perry/Bachmann/Santorum (values/small government.)
I know, it’s as impossible as herding cats, but Tea Party/base conservatives have to rally behind a single “anti-Romney” (much as Barack Obama became the default “anti-Hillary”) by Iowa, or he wins by default. I suggest Cain.
I am almost ready to go all in for Cain.
Prediction: If the RNC and the Republican establishment anoint Romney, the Republican party will collapse, never to reorganize, and President O will win a second term.
Agreed as likely. If at this point Romney is the candidate, there is no good future for the Republic inside the Republican Party. It will be time for a Tea Party.
If Romney becomes the nominee you won’t have to wait until Nov ’12 to know whether or not the Republic is doomed. It will be time for plan B.
I completely disagree! He will most likely get more independents than Perry for sure. I can understand if you don’t like his health care in Mass but isn’t this what we want states to do? Don’t we talk about 50 different laboratories so that the states can decide for their own state and own people? So in Ca they can go broke insuring all the illegals and the blue states can do things like allowing people to choose from any health insurance provider and limit the law suits by ambulance chasers and looser pays all.
Romney has Bork as his advisor which tells you what kind of supreme court person he would pick. We can’t let another one of obama’s lib picks.
The most important thing is to get rid of the fraud in office! My gosh what did obama ever do before he won the election? Romney has a record of saving businesses and please don’t tell me some people were fired – you all here are too smart and know how to make a company successful.
I worked in the Olympics and know what a mess that was before Romney took it over and after four years with his pay $1,00 a year, was the first Olympics to leave a city with no debt.
For you who say we might as well vote for obama you are trying to fool us – so tell us that you really are a dem!
There is absolutely no point in winning if the result is putting a Democrat-Lite like Romney in the White House. In fact, it would be harmful. He would tinker around the edges of the massive problems we face, and the media would blame all conservatives everywhere for the nation’s problems just because Romney is a Republican (supposedly).
It is important to defeat Obama, but replacing him with a status quo establishment RINO is an opportunity lost.
And as for being a Dem, I would say I’m more conservative than you. You’re obviously Republican first, country second. I believe in the free market principles of economic liberty that made this country great. You just want to defeat Obama. It matters not one whit to you if what happens to the country as long as the guy in the White House has an (R) after his name.
“He will most likely get more independents than Perry for sure.”
I think he’ll get fewer. There’s not one reason to vote for him. He’s the liberal who’ll get some of what he wants.
“I can understand if you don’t like his health care in Mass but isn’t this what we want states to do?”
No I don’t want any state to be a cradle of socialism.
“Romney has Bork as his advisor which tells you what kind of supreme court person he would pick.”
That’s scary as h–l. Bork is a disaster on the constitution. He effectively thinks the 9th and 10th don’t exist, he is a consummate statist.
“For you who say we might as well vote for obama you are trying to fool us – so tell us that you really are a dem!”
I am no Dem, never have been, and I will never vote for Romney.
Romney might get independents, but he won’t get conservatives (see “GHW Bush, Dole, McCain”).
I really am a registered Dem in NYC, and finally started my protest voting against clueless Dems in 2008. Exposure to their hate-fuelled identity politics goes too far.
Perry has my vote. I want to vote FOR someone, just once. You guys really have to understand that the country needs leadership that fuels confidence.
The only thing Romney stands for is that he wants to be president.
This is not the time for the GOP to commit fraticide – offer us Romney and you guarantee four more years of Obama. I no longer want to live in THAT America.
Use my imaginary scenario: who would YOU want to be stuck in an elevator with during a blackout? Even if Rick Perry could not figure a way out, I would rather listen to his stories about his dog and his horse and what it was like to live in Saudi Arabia in the 1970′s than be stuck with anyone else. But, Perry would figure a way out…
I have a different prediction: The establishment WILL endorse Romney, and the base will promptly ignore them and nominate Cain, or perhaps Perry or Paul. We don’t have superdelegates in our primary; only a handful of state party leaders, most of whom won’t be seated at the Convention due to penalties assessed against states for violating timing rules. The establishment can endorse whomever they wish, but they can’t force anybody to listen to them. We simply won’t. Even if there is a brokered convention, Romney won’t be nominated. It is far likelier that a brokered convention nominates Huckabee or Palin as a consensus candidate than that it nominates Romney, because Romney is NOBODY’S second choice.
“or Paul”
Absolutely no frickin way. Anyone who thinks we aren’t at war with AlQaeda and it’s hangers-on–anyone who thinks there can be 5th amendment complication to killing the enemy in wartime–that person should only be on stage with a big red round nose and red floppy shoes.
The author states “Most commentators may have let it slip their mind that the Carter-Reagan race was neck and neck until the last few days of the campaign..”. Actually, most commentators were being TOLD by Cronkite and the MSM that the race was neck and neck until the last few days when in fact it was not. It was later to be revealed that Jimmy wrote his mother (remember “Miss Lillian”?)30 days before the election that he knew he would lose. I bring this up because the myth of closeness of the Carter-Reagan race was a major attempt by the media to discourage voters into believing that the conservative message of Reagan was not resonating when in fact it was. That tactic will be employed again this cycle. The fact is that the conservative message is what will appeal to the so-called independents (Reagan Democrats). Lacking that we lose.
Has anyone else ever noticed that polls can disagree outside their supposed margin of error when pretending to measure the same thing at the same time? Polls are scientific like AGW is scientific.
You got it, Yooper. That was a flaw in the author’s analysis: it didn’t occur to him that the polls were just plain wrong in the lead-up to the 1980 election, whether it was a genuine error or otherwise on the pollsters’ part.
If any candidate other than Romney or his like gains the nomination, he should travel to Wasilla for a long conversation with the Divine Sarah. She will explain in great detail the backstabbing habits of the GOP establishment. She will also explain how she almost got McCain elected, only to see him give it to Obama. In boxing parlance, McCain took a dive for no good reason other than to go along to get along. Whoever you are, nominee, watch your back.
Republicans like Romney are almost as bad as Democrats. They still believe in Big Government run by a bunch of technocrats who believe themselves better able to run our lives than we are. They’re a bunch of meddlers who just refuse to let the market work. I don’t think we can trust Romney to eliminate Obamacare.
Romney likes to claim he did what he thought was right for Massachusetts under federalism and that his solution there wouldn’t be right for all states. Well, he misses the point completely and that is that he turned his back of free markets and consumer choice and imposed a government “solution” on the people of Mass. NO conservative would ever support a state solution to a market problem.
And Romney’s position on Social Security is unacceptable. The program is an abomination to economic liberty, private property, and freedom of choice. At the very least he should support making the system voluntary and allow people to opt out. That would be the true test of the system’s popularity. The Dems always claim it’s a popular program. Let’s put it to the test.
We are at a critical point in our nation’s history and Romney is simply not the man for the moment.
We are at a crossroads, we will continue on our path to socialism and eventual disintegration or we will turn back to the path of maximizing individual liberty and small, constitutional government.
I fear that Romney will only slow down our trip on the road to serfdom rather than leading us on the reverse course.
We conservatives will NOT submit to becoming wage slaves to the half of the population that are government dependent parasites. We will NOT submit to becoming wards of the state via socialized medicine. We will NOT submit to forced unionism. We will NOT be disarmed by a Leftist SCOTUS.
If not stopped, it will not end well for the Left.
A big stinking pile of Ambition, when what is needed is someone with principles carved in stone.
Romney is a RINO, plain as the nose on his face. He is a Big Government Liberal at best. Tells everyone exactly how much the Republican Party has been taken over by RINOs (Liberals with an R behind their name.) who decades ago started fleeing the Marxist takeover of and now completely Marxist controlled Democrat Party. America has for decades now only had a choice between choosing a radical leftist D or leftist R to lead our soon to be, if not already, former Republic. Can there be any wonder remaining as to why America’s free fall is getting perilously close to bottom?
Romney is better suited to run on the Obama team. If he is the candidate, it will guarantee Obama’s re-election. God help us all!
The base brought its crazy, and its tea washed the speckled foam from the mouths of its favored sons and daughters. Now, they fall one by one. Does that tea still taste good?
Ask that question when the economy collapses under the weight of a massive, bloated, unsustainable federal government. This recession is a day at the park compared to what is coming. I hope you enjoy what’s coming.
America is the place that people have fought and died for to just reach her shores of FREEDOM.
People come here both legally and ILLEGALLY to escape fascism/socialism/communism.
You really should move to a nice, cozy Communist country if you hate the USA so intensely.
What do you mean “unless the economy was so bad”? Do you really believe it will improve over the next year?
Romney’s not inevitable, but he’s run the best campaign so far, by far.
He gets a lot of hate on PJM because he is more of a centrist than the other candidates. But what PJM’ers hate, makes him viable in the general election. If he hadn’t been able to get away with it, it would have been a bad strategy; but so far, it’s a good one. One by one, the other candidates self-destruct. If that is what Romney figured, he’s pretty smart.
It will be interesting to see what he says and does about Cain. Certainly, Cain is now in his headlights, so some kind of reasponse seems likely. A recent poll had Cain at 20% in NH vs Romney at 38%. Cain is even closer in Iowa. If Romney sticks with his strategy, he will just wait for Cain to self-destruct. But if Cain begins to start collecting donors, Romney will proably have to respond.
One of Romney’s problems though is that he doesn’t get much love from anybody. If he attacks Cain, it’s not like he has a rabid base that will go crazy to flog Hermann. I’m not sure there is much Romney can do other than wait it out and not make any mistakes.
The attacks are probably going to be made through surrogates and the conservative media. They are likely to focus on the pitiful loopiness of Nein Nein Nein, and Cain’s lack of governing expertise. If those seeds get planted in the 95% of Republicans who are thinkers rather than hero-worshippers, Cain won’t last long.
If those seeds get planted in the 95% of Republicans who are thinkers rather than hero-worshippers, Cain won’t last long.
That’s a pretty broad assumption about Republicans
For the record, I don’t regard my own appreciation of Cain as anything like hero worship.
Larry Kudlow is somewhat ja ja ja on nein nein nein
“In essence, the Cain plan combines the flat tax (with its single marginal rate) and the fair tax (which uses the national sales tax). I don’t know if this is really possible. But in terms of first principles, throwing out the tax code, lowering marginal tax rates, getting rid of the carve-outs and deductions that make the current code impossible to understand, and providing an economic-growth tonic to heal our current funk, it makes a lot of sense.”
Well it was a broad brush, and I’ll exclude you from it. Your comments are always thoughtful.
I can find a lot to like in Cain as well, but am leary of an untested person. What I’ve come to realize is that an imperfect Republican president is far more important than a perfect Republican who falls short of victory. Congress will lead the rollback of Obamaism. You probably think that Cain is more likely to win than Romney, Perry or Gingrich, but I would counter the US has NEVER elected a business person with no exerience in government. Anything can happen in life, but I prefer to stick with stuff that has worked in the past.
I also think it is indisputable that there is a lot of Cain hero-worship, which I find disappointing, particularly in light of 2008. This results, I’m pretty sure, from talk radio. Personally, I think Rush is a genius, and Mark Levin is close…but they are doing a grave disservice to the country by insisting that the nominee has to be Cain, Bachman, Santorium or Perry. Their view that what they call “not a conservative” is never acceptable was probably valid from 1988 through 2008; but that doesn’t mean it is correct in 2012, when the country is on the brink of a total meltdown to marxism. We need a winner in 2012, not a purity test.
Finally, two people on the thread I would like to join in with.
Look, my guys are not in the race. (Christy and Palin not being among my first choices, either)
I lean toward the Mitch Daniels, Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor breed.
However, it is becoming a bit …er…chafing…to see the vitriol heaped on “x” Republican candidate vs the scorn heaped on “y” Republican candidate.
I’m in the mood to set up some ground rules for my own system of judgment.
1)If a guy had to fight the fight in a blue state, I’m going to give him SOME benefit of the doubt on things he did to get elected, remain elected, and to govern. It is not only silly…it is inane to beat him relentlessly with the same measuring stick as the guy from the intensely red state.
2)Just because someone doesn’t have a history of arch-conservative purity for the whole of his life…does NOT make him a “RINO”. Some,not all…are reaching a level of trigger happy imbecility throwing that term around. I should ignore them…and forgive my otherwise good friends here for the occasional lapse into hyperbole…but, it is getting really old, trite…and incredibly stupid on the margins.
Frankly, it is rather odd coming from commenters on this site…it would (by apparent definition) wipe out virtually EVERY great essayist on the site and some of the best fellow commenters.
3)There is NO consensus choice. There is even less of a perfect one. Every one has imperfections, warts, blemishes and a bit of “hair” on their candidacy. Let’s take that as a starting point. If we can’t agree on that…we won’t agree on almost anything that comes after it. It must be the starting premise.
4)Romney has reminded me of a qb who “manages a game”, playing not to lose. His best play is “take a knee”. He is a milquetoast Republican. Not a lot of fire in the belly, wants to be liked and get along. Lack of red meat on his menu, lots of veganomics. But, he is better than Obama and he would reverse the destruction of capitalism, erosion of the Constitution and blatant trampling of our rights.
Cain has more fire, more willingness to mix it up. As a qb he is willing to throw deep and go for the big play. He can’t read defenses yet, can be reckless with the ball and his style leads to scoring…by both sides, unfortunately. I root for him on every play. But, he’s a risk taker…and better than Obama…he would reverse the destruction of capitalism, erosion of the Constitution and blatant trampling of our rights.
Perry is beginning to look like a coach killer. Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane. He can’t remember plays in the huddle, fumbles, …has all the potential once he is in his comfort zone, but, not likely to make it look easy and better than Obama…he would reverse the destruction of capitalism, erosion of the Constitution and blatant trampling of our rights. .
Newt is always designing a trick play, but can’t get out of his own way sometimes. Too clever by halves and better than Obama…he would reverse the destruction of capitalism, erosion of the Constitution and blatant trampling of our rights.
Is there a theme here?
Ron Paul wants to run the flying wedge and not wear helmets.
3)
Definitely a theme…
Aaron Rogers for President
romney is like the qb who will take a twenty yard sack rather than throw the ball away and hurt his precious qb rating
“I lean toward the Mitch Daniels, Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor breed.”
In this, we agree, cf. However, now that the field is settled, I have chosen for Cain. Mostly, I feel I can trust such a guy with his real-world experience and values. “Pull up your pants, lose the metal, and hide your tats!” is unapologetic. I am tired of apologetic.
Love the football metaphor! If you were a QB, what kind of QB would you be?
Palin and Christie – QB keeper, a cloud of dust, and getting the first down.
Santorum – The guy who gets cut in training camp.
Bachmann – Back-up QB you hope you can develop, but is a flash in the pan.
“But, he is better than Obama and he would reverse the destruction of capitalism, erosion of the Constitution and blatant trampling of our rights.”
Why do you imagine that? G W Bush was more fiscally conservative than Romney, yet G W birthed TARP and Medicare Part D. Will Romney abandon the ludicrous, unconstitutional, expensive and useless war on drugs? Will he abolish the TSA? Will he push effectively for a simpler and flatter tax system? With his adherence to AGW, will he tell the EPA to shut up and sit on it’s thumbs; or will he try cap and trade? What part of the national gun laws will he employ prosecutorial discretion to nullify?
We need a winner who is no shade of Marxist. Romney is not that guy.
Why on earth are you or any other Republican supporting someone who thinks going over a cliff at 5mph is really an improvement over going over the cliff at 105mph?
The point is to get turned away from the cliff, right?
“when the country is on the brink of a total meltdown to marxism”
Prove to me you actually care by not supporting the establishment candidate. Romney represents the Republicans who are fine with 5mph over the cliff. None of them think government is too big, not when they are looking at their part of it.
We need a candidate who understand that all constitution legitimizes and what the country needs is a federal government that is as irrelevant as possible to most people most of the time. Romney is not that guy, he’s part of them problem.
Good luck finding Mr. Perfect.
I think your best bet is a candidate who has never held public office and can memorize talk radio’s talking points and regurgitate them in a smooth baritone voice. That way, he won’t have a record to pick apart and will align perfectly with the 5% of the country who listens to talk radio religiously. That 5% base will be rock solid, and only 45% more will be needed.
If the candidate is a minority, the main stream media will be afraid to investigate his past, and he will be able to skate through the election without anybody discovering whether he had any parking tickets or other bad stuff in his past.
@Proreason. Funny, you attacking a strawman like that. I don’t think you can point out anything I’ve said to support the notion I’m looking for Mr. Perfect, or that I think Cain, Perry, or even Palin counts as such.
I will insist on someone who won’t stand in the Tea Party aligned candidate’s way. Romney is just that disaster.
He is the liberal who will get some of what he wants.
5mpg over the edge is still fatal, and because of that I will not vote for Romney, I will not support him if he is the candidate.
In fact, your willingness to kill the country slowly belies your moniker.
You aren’t for reason, you are for Romney.
“I will not vote for Romney, I will not support him if he is the candidate.”
This guy is determined to snatch victory from defeat. He’s real proud of it too.
btw, I will certainly vote for Mr Cain if he is nominated, even though he will certainly lose.
Romney winning is a defeat, and I’d rather all the fallout from the continuance of business as usual–which is what Romney represents–have a D after it’s name.
Romney is the liberal who will get some of what he wants, Obama would get nothing.
How safe was McCain, Proreason?
re Nein Nein Nein and Kudlow…I usually agree with Larry, but like Ryan and other people speaking well of the lunatic plan, he ignores four supremely important factors: does the country want it, can it be passed, can it be operationalized, and can it be implemented without destroying millions of lives. On all fronts, the answer is Nein Nein Nein Nein.
Does the country want it? – sure, everybody who thinks their taxes would be lower will accept it. Let’s see, that’s billionaires, millionaires and people in the 25%+ tax bracket. Soon as they exceed 50% of the voting public, it will be popular. In the meantime, maybe 20-30% of the country would vote for it, assuming 10 to 25% are willing to vote against their self interest.
Can it be passed? – sure, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are salivating, as are Barney Franks and Charlie Rangle. Congressional representatives who aren’t in safe seats? Not so much.
Can it be operationalized? – why not. all the country needs is four tax systems in four or five years. That’s the current one, the 25% top brackets one, the 9 9 9 one, and then the flat tax one. No problem with a decade of chaos if it’s all for a good cause, right?
Can it be implemented without destroying millions of lives? – sure. Except for people who have a mortgage or who build houses, pay real estate taxes, pay state income taxes, take the child care credit, are poor, are on a fixed income, are a young family struggling to feed their kids, or otherwise depend on one of the thousands of provisions in the existing tax code. I can’t see many problems at all.
But as for Larry Kudlow…hey, I’m sure he would enjoy reducing his 35% bracket to 9%, and then paying an additional 9% on 50% or so of his income he currently spends. I’m sure he has done the math (I’m guessing he will pay 13.5%) and is a big BIG supporter.
“does the country want it, can it be passed, can it be operationalized, and can it be implemented without destroying millions of lives. On all fronts, the answer is Nein Nein Nein Nein.”
Who cares? The debate we have about it will advance us closer tot he flat tax we need.
Only people who pay taxes or will have to pay taxes will care.
Proreason, I don’t think you got my meaning. There is no reason for the people who people or will expect to pay taxes to care about the specifics of 9-9-9, because it will advance the cause of the tax reform we badly need. I believe the debate we will have about it will advance us towards a flatter and far simpler tax structure. There is no drastic downside to it.
“People” don’t give a hoot about tax reform.
They care about how much taxes they pay. And some care about how much they pay relative to what others pay.
The complexity of the tax code is only an issue, a very minor one, because people believe that the wealthy and businesses take advantage of it to pay less than they should.
Nein Nein Nein will be portrayed as a Republican wet dream. Less taxes for the rich. That is a 100% certainty. Cain wouldn’t get to 35% in the final vote tally.
The “people” are the democrats who will vote for Obama no matter what–and we don’t care about them. They are the Republicans who will vote against Obama no matter what, good on them–we should make sure their votes have all the valence we can by giving them a candidate who will do what good is possible. Romney’s not that guy. Romney is as safe as low dose arsenic, and we’ve had all the cumulative dose of half-hearted conservatism we can stand.
The rest of the people are the people in the TEA party who are in the middle and who want actual progress towards fiscal conservatism, they want smaller more constitutional government. Romney will turn them off in split second, and they should be disgusted by him–he’s pretty disgusting. He’s worse than McCain.
How safe was McCain? Pro-reason, you’re not making sense!
People are aware of how regulations destroy business–not the leftmost 40% (but why should we care about them?).
They will support flatter taxes even if it means they pay more, as long as it’s clear from the far simpler tax code they they aren’t disproportionately taking the hit, and that actual progress towards smaller government spending is being made.
The people who will decide this one way or another are in the middle, and they are prepared for real change and the hope provided by a less smothering governemnt. 9-9-9 is a good enough place to start the debate about what that will be in the details.
“The complexity of the tax code is only an issue, a very minor one, because people believe that the wealthy and businesses take advantage of it to pay less than they should.”
The wealthy and the businesses with connections do do that, lately especially if they are Democrat aligned.
It’s part of the reason we should have a flat tax the return for which fits on a post card, one mailed in the last week in October.
I didn’t support McCain in the primaries, but I voted for him because I knew Obama was a marxist.
But here you are telling the world that you will vote for Obama if Romney is nominated.
And you say I don’t make sense. Unbelievable. I can’t waste any more time on you. There are other people who support Cain who have the ability to think.
@Proreason.
Show me you can reason.
Obama will get nothing of what he wants if he is elected in 2012. Nothing.
If Romney is elected he will get some of what he wants:
-He wants universal government underwritten healthcare.
-He wants gun control.
-He wants cap and trade, he believes in AGW.
-He thinks Bork is someone whose opinion should be sought. Bork thinks the 9th and 10th amendments mean nothing, Bork is a statist to the core.
-He seeks John Holdren’s counsel, and Holdren not merely believes in AGW, he’s the idiot who with Erlich lost the Malthusian bet. Romney is clueless, and he seeks the approval of the clueless.
Show me one thing that says Romney is not a liberal who will get some of what he wants if he is elected.
You believe him when he says he’ll sign a repeal of Obamacare? He won’t end it, he likes the idea too much. He’ll try to fix it, like he fixed Massachusetts.
Also @ proreason
Name one characteristic we can count on, that is to the good and between the people Romney would pick for SCOTUS vs. who Obama would pick.
What would it say about America if the DOTUS were to beat Herman Cain? Well I will tell you what it would say. It would say that America, as currently constituted, is finished!
“One of Romney’s problems though is that he doesn’t get much love from anybody.”
I can’t see why he should get any like from anybody. Forget love.
For the record, the Republicans who think, who are most of them–they can’t see any reason to put up with Romney as the penultimate, “meh” candidate. He doesn’t even have the upside of being safe.
I am an Independent and I will not vote for Obama or Romney. Much the same.
Cain with no 999
Perry with no HPV
Newt with same wife
Bachmann with no Bible
Santorium…who knows
If I am going to hold my nose again, it will be for one of the above.
My feelings about Romney were confirmed when RINO Christie endorsed him.
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/10/oh-super-romney-consulted-with-obama.html
The ever-morphing policy positions of Mitt Romney are sufficiently disturbing on their own.
But if it’s true that Romney consulted with Obama’s crazed ‘Science Czar’ John Holdren, he should step out of the GOP race today.
Barack Hussein Obama has clotted the executive branch with unaccountable “czars” — unsavory characters too extreme to be confirmed for cabinet positions even by a hyper-partisan, Democrat-controlled Senate. Among the most alarming of these malevolent lunatics is Science Czar John Holdren, a participant in ClimateGate who has advocated de-developing America and putting sterilants in the public water supply…
PLEASE. PLEASE. PLEASE.
For the love of AMERICA, just get someone to represent the American Spirit who can beat the pants off of the limp-wristed, tacky, long-legged, mack daddy tool currently residing in the White House.
If America goes the way of Greece, the whole WORLD is screwed.
New revelations about Romney working with Obama’s Science Czar should be used by Cain for maximum impact.
http://www.bluecollarphilosophy.com/2011/10/romney-relied-on-obamas-eugenics-advocating-science-czar-for-environmental-policy-goodbye.html
Cain v Obama in 2012.
This is the crony-capitalist candidate. As such, his administration is likely to be an order of magnitude more competent and law-abiding than the current crony-socialist administration. I’d prefer several of the others.
That said, the damage that Romney could do would be substantially limited, if the TEA parties clean the House and Senate.
“That said, the damage that Romney could do would be substantially limited, if the TEA parties clean the House and Senate.”
That would be true if TEA party aligned candidate gain a veto-proof majority. I do not see that happening in 2012.
It is interesting that Newt is moving up in the polls. I will vote for Romney if I have to, but already know I will hate watching him on TV. There is something…what is it?..clammy about him and I don’t mean chowder. I connect more with Newt because every time he opens his mouth (except for his radio-show gaffe about Ryan’s health plan) I agree with what he says. Is Newt cuddly? Absolutely NOT and that is why I like him. He pulls no punches, knows what he is talking about, and will have absolutely no trouble killing sacred cows once he get into the WH. (Sorry about mixed metaphors!) ALSO, I LOVE FANTASIZING ABOUT NEWT DEBATING OBAMA!!! THE BEST!! Would be so good. The other thing I like about Newt is that in the debates so far he refuses to attack the other Repub contenders. He also reminds them that they should be attacking the OBAMA record, talking about what needs to be fixed and how to do it. I LIKE A MAN WHO UNDERSTANDS HIS OBJECTIVES AND RALLIES OTHERS TO DO THE RIGHT THING! Forget Gardisil for crying out loud. Some people are saying that 13 debates is too many but it could be good for Newt as people realize how little Romney excites and how good–and knowledgeable! and interesting!–Newt’s answers are.
LOL! I loved reading your rant and I soooooooo agree with much of it.
It would totally suck balls to have to vote for a REPUB whilst holding my nose.
American-LITE is a sucky choice.
The real tragedy would be for us Americans to have to vote for some douche-nozzle JUST TO GET RID of the current douche-nozzle.
UGH UGH UGH
Newt cuts to the chase and takes no prisoners. When he flusters some of the brain dead questioners, it is poetry in motion.
He does more often appear focused on the nation rather than promoting his own personality, which (tedious self-promotion) is the drawback of some of the republican candidates.
Absolutely agree with SB. Newt is brilliant, articulate, knows how government works. I love he knows so much about this Country our American History and I love listening to him. Every word uttered from his mouth is fact and not rhetoric. Plus he tells it like it is and I like that. He has Charisma and does Herman Cain who is also brilliant. You gotta have charisma to get anywhere.
I think the ticket should be CAIN/Gingrich or vice versa.
Newt would be president if brainpower was the only criteria.
It’s ironic, Newt’s big problem is his personal life, which will be hammered by the mbm if he makes much more progress, even though the mbm could not care less about it, other than using it to destroy him. Meanwhile, socons, who would be much better served by Newt than Romney, will probably keep Newt from reaching the top tier.
I don’t think Newt’s personal life would hurt him much in a general election. The mbm would never dare to ask him about it to his face because he would simply use it to contrast himself with Obama. Republicans will vote for him, despite the problems, and independents won’t care.
Newt’s other problem is that he has been so eclectic in his political life that he has a lot of views that at some point, have clashed with any or all elements of the Republican coalition. But of course, so has Romney, and we’re finding out the same about Perry, and I suspect will find out the same about anyone who is intensely scrutinized.
I’m trying to decide if Newt has much of a chance. That will depend if he can climb in the polls. I love his brain; love squared his ability to twist the media into knots; like his program proposals, and am not put off by his person. It is clear, however, that Romney has better organizational skills (Perry probably as well). Romney also possesses a factor that nobody else has. He is intensely driven to become president. That’s a two-edged sword, but it gives him an edge on somebody like Newt who doesn’t seem to have the same burning desire.
Don’t forget Newt piled on as a sorry opportunist when Sarah was being blood libeled. The guy is a snake, no matter how well he can talk. Cain is the only one who spoke up for Sarah. Character matters.
Everything proceeds from character.
Many (most) in the current crop of liars and dissemblers in DC don’t even know what it is.
Governing to that crowd amounts to coming up with the spin, the narrative, “the optics” with which to confront anything and everything.
Lying with impunity has been raised to an art form.
I’m with you! Newt would be by far the better candidate. I’m voting for either Newt or Perry – leaning towards Newt. Watching him debate Obama would be the most entertaining 60 minutes on TV. He would destroy Obama. When the debate ended, Obama would be cowering in a corner in the fetal position, drooling and sucking his thumb.
NO ROMNEY. Although, If Romney does win the primary, I’ll vote for him – the only reason being to get RID of Obama. I have never in my 63 years hated a president more. And, I voted for him. I’m ashamed to admit it. He is absolutely the worst president I have ever seen. Hideous liar. Muslim communist, destroyer of America.
Yipes, Romney (reportedly) consulted with John Holdren ? Science Czar Holdren is one of the scariest guys on the planet.
To me, it’s a huge black globular spot that both Romney and Christie have bought whole hog into the anthropogenic global warming argument, using the knee jerk trope that a huge number of scientists has declared it so and then proceeding to claim that, as non-scientists, it is incumbent upon them to believe as well.
Nothing about all the manipulation in the AGW debate, including but not limited to various and sundry IPCC reports coming out of the UN.
Declaring “belief” in the truth of AGW makes about as much sense as Barbara Boxer’s and Lisa Jackson’s dedication to those ideas, and we know that Babs and Lisa are somewhere between addled ideologues and downright nuts.
I’ve had an aversion to Romney for the duration, this round and the previous round. Romney is glib.
We’ve done glib, we’re doing glib.
How’s that working out for us ?
If inevitability is the reason to support a candidate, that’s not much of a reason.
I don’t trust or like Romney. He is a liberal just like his father. And speaking of his father, will someone please tell me how Mitt Romney is any more eligible for POTUS than Obama. Mitt’s father was born in Chichuchu, MEXICO 7/7/1907!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have searched and searched for any information that he ever even became a citizen. None, nothing, nada.
Romney’s father name is George Wilcken Romney Search it on IXquick.com
his father was citizen, even though born in mexico, due to both of his (georges) parents (mitts grandparents) being us citizens. he was actually dual citizen iirc. born of 2 us citizens abroad.
so while he (george) may not have met jus soli , and this (birthplace) was issue in the presidential run he did iirc, mitt himself does meet the nbc requirements.
to bad as I have looked for a way to hang that on him.
I don’t like Perry on immigration, but I am still supporting him in the primary based on the 2nd Amendment, states rights, anti-global warming / EPA, tort reform and his funding / organizational strength. I will however vote for whoever wins the GOP nomination (including Huntsman, or a dead cat). America will not survive four more years of Obamacide.
Who is more fake smiley fake-face Romney or Al-Gore-right-hand-man Perry?
Discuss.
Rick Perry is amazingly lifelike.
Mitt Romney…….isn’t.
It’s going to be fun to watch this play out. Stepford-candidate Romney is a fine technocrat that, as stated above, probably would not change much. And we do need change quick.
But maybe he is more than that. Why would someone with so much good fortune want to run for president today? Have you seen his family? I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a more handsome clan.
We are going to have a good debate but then we must get behind our candidate 100%.
Some say Elmer Fudd could beat President Obama. I say a cornered animal is indeed quite dangerous. BHO will do and say ANYTHING to get a second term and that scares the h*** out of me.
To Rosemary:
George W Romney (1907-1995) was born in Chihuahua, México.
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/15/will-romney-hire-obamas-climate-change-guru-holdren/
I “messed up” the last. Didn’t get the right text in for the comment. Here it is:
Note Hotair’s article showing how environut John Holdren advised Romney in the 2005 implementation of MA cap and trade “1st (and only) in the nation” carbon and energy price caps.
Boy! If establishment Repubs think that “moderate” Romney is the safe choice, think again. There will be a conservative 3rd party challenge if Romney is the nominee. Maybe Palin, who just changed her Facebook party affiliation from Republican to Conservative!
Go with Newt.
Yeah, that worked out so well when Ross Perot did it.
But you’re probably too young to remember that.
“the exceptions happening three times in the last 48 years (Goldwater, Ford, Bush #43) — also leads to the conclusion that it is his “turn” and that other candidates must wait in line.”
Wrongo-du-Maxami!
First: Gerald R. Ford was the Clear Establishment Choice in 1976 and the Establishment spared no effort to beat back that Crazy John Bircher Governer of California Ronald Wilson Reagan.
Second: Ronald Reagan was NOT the Establishment Candidate in 1980 George H.W. Bush was!
John Anderson was the also ran who was told it was not yet his turn.
Third: While Bush #43 was not the Establishment’s Annointed whose turn it was in 2000, John McCain was, he was still acceptable to the Establishment goin in.
Now we have Mit Romney. RINO or Not, it is clear he has no spine.
In 1994 Romney led Ted Kennedy in the Massachusits Senatoral race going into September. Then, Newt announced the Contract with America.
Mit’s response?
“That’s the House, I’m running for the Senate.” NO GUTS. And the farther he distanced himself from the Contract, the lower he sank in the polls.
As governer of Massachusitts he proved what his real talent is (and will be as president) which will be to Manage a Liberal Mess Better than A Democrat Can!
He will not change direction, he hasn’t the intesenal fortitude to take on the MSM in order to do that. All he will do is make Liberalism look better so it can sink in with the general population, allowing another Democrat to take over 8 years from now to Shove us Further Left from the plateau that Romney will have Maintained.
nuclear families
How is something thats only 60 years in practice an American tradition. What ever happened to your entire family living in the same house/street? They would go away to college then come back when they were able to get a job in their town and live a whole 500 feet away from their parents/brothers/sisters/cousins/aunts/uncles. THAT is American tradition.
Nuclear families are a modern abomination.
If Mitt really were the inevitable selection, they wouldn’t have to say so. Their statement is a panicky effort to persuade. It is not a result of observation.
(Cont I’m Anonymous above)
Romney has proven time after time that he will follow the MSM wherever it leads rather than leading in a different direction. (Cap and Tax in Mass – Romney Care in Mass – His stance on Illegal Immigration – even his original stance on the Contract with America.)
His success with the Olympics was because in a business environment he A) had Dictitatorial Authority and B) received MSM Scrutiny only over results rather than process. Therefore what he did with the Olympics does not translate to what kind of President he will be.
The Tea Party, and most Americans for that matter, have little or no trust for Romney. He’s pretty much Flatlined with the Republicans when it comes to the Primaries right now because only the Elites (that is roughly 25%) trust him to do as they wish him to do. (In other words they know he won’t rock the boat.)
The problem with the rest of the field is that people are looking for a NOT Romney candidate they can trust to follow through and who will Compromise as a Last Resort, and because they Have To Compromise, not because they Want To Compromise.
Bohner on the CR said he got the Best Deal He Could Get. LIE!
He got the best deal he wanted.
First, Bohner compromised with himself and watered 100 Billion in cuts down to 60 Billion. Then he Compromised with Democrats to 38 Billion, which became 357 Million through Blue Smoke and Mirrors. And now it’s all evaporated into an Increased Defecit so the overall cuts…. ZERO!
If he meant what he said, he’d have gone in with 350 Billion in cuts on the table and dealt with Democrats who kenw he was serious and may have come out with even as much as 125 to 150 Billion in cuts.
But, as with Establishment Romney, Establishment Bohner wimped out!
jd
Romney is quintessential Establishment candidate. Moderate, squishy, don’t rock the boat, and take care of the Republican cronies. He’s not a reformer, but a caretaker. Nice hair, plastic smile and I don’t trust him.
With Obama poll numbers dropping like a rock, Elmer Fudd could get elected on the Republican ticket. So why should we settle for Mr. Milquetoast? No, we need to get the most conservative electable candidate through the primaries.
While Newt is about 80% brilliant; there is that other 20% to worry about. And,I simply will not forgive him for that global baloney warming commercial with Miss Nancy on the couch.
Michelle and Rick Santorum are probably the most conservative candidates left in the race. Michelle stumbled over Gardsil running around with unproven accusactions. Rick can’t seem to get any traction.
John Huntsman – no way. He’s more plastic than Mitt and way too liberal. Ron Paul – sorry, but his foreign policy beliefs just can’t win a Republican primary, despite his rather rabid fans. Gary Johnson can’t get traction either. Let’s say that all these are discards for one reason or another.
Despite his dismal debates, Rick Perry can raise a lot of money. The establishment doesn’t want him, so that’s a plus. And his energy policies would be a winner. Can he over come his tuition for illegal immigrant children for his Gardasil mandate. Don’t know, but I don’t want anyone who is soft on the border or illegal immigrants.Illegal immigrants are killing, local, county, state, and Federal budgets.
My pick is the likeable, accomplished Mr.Herman Cain. Attended no Ivy League schools and was a successful businessman, Head of Restaurant Assn., and talk show host. His personality reminds me of Reagan: warm, engaging, and willing to make the case for needed reforms. To those who don;t like his association with the Federal Reserve: Reagan never proposed eliminating the Federal Reserve. Perfect, no but able to win the hearts and minds of Americans. Let’s get behind the CainTrain and defeat the Establishment.
Main problem with Cain is the regressive 9-9-9 won’t fly with a super-majority of voters, including near majority of conservatives. A Cain nomination means 4 more years of you know who. There is no way an underfunded Cain, with his 9-9-9 liability, could hold up under the billion$ Obama attack machine.
On Newt and the Pelosi couch thing. What is key is that, essentially, Gingrich HAS CHANGED HIS POSITION on global warming (+ Romney has not). Watch this May 2011 5 minute video for his updated position: Gingrich: Why do we allow the hysteria of climate change? Newt’s call to have hearings about it is brilliant, as climate change theory does not hold up under scrutiny.
Gingrich has some annoying things about him. But, in contrast to Romney, he can be trusted on the main conservative issues, like Obamacare, and climate change.
You are so right about Perry. Please read this article from Dr. Jack Wheeler from Tothepointnews. I’ve included two excerpts. You can go to his website to read the entire thing, if you like. He used to work for the CIA and the Reagan Administration.
From an article written by Dr. Jack Wheeler at To The Point News. He used to work for the CIA and was part of the Reagan Adminstration.
tothepointnews.com
“The next GOP presidential candidate debate is four days from now, Tuesday, October 18, in Vegas on CNN. It will focus primarily albeit not exclusively on foreign policy.
I’ve been asked by friends of a particular candidate to provide him with a private briefing on the most critical foreign policy issues America faces. What follows is not the usual HFR but a condensed summary of that briefing, which contains much of my Map of the Future talk at Rendezvous XI last weekend.”
The American Economy and Foreign Policy. A strong America obviously requires a strong and flourishing economy. This can only be achieved by getting the government out of the way of it.
This cannot be done by a smooth-talking sophist who believes in Warmism (thus renewable energy crony capitalist scams), and whose health care program served as the model for the abomination of Obamacare.
This cannot be done by a Johnny One Note who can only talk about his tax reform plan that will take years to implement (if ever), and thus will do absolutely nothing to immediately revive the economy and create massive job growth.
This cannot be done by anyone pretending his business experience can be applied to running a government. Governments and their bureaucracies are the opposite of a for-profit business and cannot be run on business principles. Governments, the federal government in particular, can only be run on Constitutional principles, which means eliminating all federal activities, programs, agencies, and departments not enumeratedly authorized by the Constitution. (Not all at once but in an orderly manner – Rome wasn’t torn down in a day.)
This can be done only by someone with successful executive government experience who is committed to those Constitutional restrictions, most particularly those embodied in the 10th Amendment.
I wish that person well in the debate next Tuesday and in the months of campaigning to come. The 2012 GOP nomination campaign will be a test of endurance. It will not and mathematically cannot be won quickly.
30 states hold their GOP primaries before April, which are by new RNC rules proportional. A candidate who wins a majority or plurality of votes in these primaries only gets his proportion of the delegates – it’s not winner-take-all. 55% of the votes, say, gets you 55% of the delegates, no more.
Further, because they are in violation of RNC rules for insisting on ridiculously early primaries, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina, Florida, Arizona, and Michigan will be penalized with a loss of half of their delegates. Iowa is a non-binding caucus so it’s just a pr show.
The race will not be won until deep into April – and thus will be won by the best funded, best organized, and most determined never-give-up persistent candidate. For America’s sake, let that candidate be also the most Constitutionally principled.
9-9-9 hurts senior citizens and those living on a fixed income. I will never vote for Cain because of it.
Found this comment at the washington examiner and thought it spells things out exactly :
THE FIX IS IN
Too bad the tea party doesn’t riot over things worth rioting over, if they did FOX News and the GOP Establishment might be seeking asylum in Zuccotti Park.
FOX News and the GOP Establishment are in full blown panic trying to protect Romney from the coalescing revolt of the 75% of republicans that demand no RINos this year.
The only hope the GOP Establishment has to drag Romney across the finish line, is to MOVE THE FINISH LINE. Early primary states are rushing — under GOP Establishment pressure — to move up their dates before Romney’s life support gives out. This should be the top story for every fair minded news source, but of course most the GOP Establishment protecting rags will barely get near it.
Forced Primary creep is as fraudulent as if 15 minutes into a 60 minute basketball game the weaker, worn out and injured team is ahead by 10 points and their coach pays the referee to shorten the game to 20 minutes.
Rightly Gingrich, Bachmann, Cain, Huntsman, Santorum are all now boycotting Nevada’s caucuses. Shamefully Romney and Perry — like the basketball team that cheated — don’t see a problem. The silence from Romney and Perry would deafening if FOX News/GOP didn’t control the monolithic voice from the right.
Obviously, the GOP Establishment is fixing the process to favor their boy, Romney. Perry can’t get this thing over quick enough before he breaks into single digits and Romney is holding on to his 20% mandate with a few finger nails. New Hampshire on December 6th might not be soon enough to keep Romney’s status quo geriatric mob intact if they happen to tune into Limbaugh before then.
The GOP Establishment’s worse nightmare is for the 75% of republicans, that won’t accept a RINO this year, finally focus their attention on one conservative candidate and stick with him or her. If any three or four of Perry, Santorum, Paul, Gingrich, Bachmann or Cain drop out before the first primary Romney will be history.
“FOX News and the GOP Establishment are in full blown panic trying to protect Romney from the coalescing revolt of the 75% of republicans that demand no RINos this year.”
Romney’s candidacy is dead. It’s useless for him and for the country for him to run. That can’t get fixed.
If what you were saying is true, then the R establishment wouldn’t be penalizing the early primary states with the loss of half their delegates. God’s honest truth, I think the parties should hold lotteries for the “early” primary dates, and set them on a fixed schedule spacing them out in the calendar.
Payback’s a dish best served cold. I can’t wait for somebody on Fox to ask Romney, “When are you getting out of the race?” Huckabee wouldn’t say it, because he’s too polite, but O’Reilly would say it.
Here’s Mittens telling you about his liberal beliefs, including abortion, citizenship for illegals, gun control, AGW/Climate Change, forced race-based corporate and government hiring, government mandates, and more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQoBxZZPqU&feature=player_embedded#!
In 2008 *they* picked McCain as their nominee and we all see how well that worked out. When did the GOP get on the DNC payroll? You don’t have to be a psychic to know that a Romney nominee will equal an Obama win. Karl Rove and the rest of them just don’t have a clue and if anything kills the Republican party or sends droves of republicans into Independent status, it will be their absolutely stupid decisions and the power the GOP leaders hold to force them on us all. I switched to Independent during the 2008 campaign because of these idiots… I certainly see no reason to change my registration status at this point.
We need someone with a proven track record. I’ll be voting for Governor Rick Perry. Please read this article, by following the link. I’ve included a couple of excerpts. We don’t have time for mistakes.
Please be careful who you vote for. Please vote with your head, and not with emotion.
From an article written by Dr. Jack Wheeler at To The Point News. He used to work for the CIA and was part of the Reagan Adminstration.
tothepointnews.com
“The next GOP presidential candidate debate is four days from now, Tuesday, October 18, in Vegas on CNN. It will focus primarily albeit not exclusively on foreign policy.
I’ve been asked by friends of a particular candidate to provide him with a private briefing on the most critical foreign policy issues America faces. What follows is not the usual HFR but a condensed summary of that briefing, which contains much of my Map of the Future talk at Rendezvous XI last weekend.”
The American Economy and Foreign Policy. A strong America obviously requires a strong and flourishing economy. This can only be achieved by getting the government out of the way of it.
This cannot be done by a smooth-talking sophist who believes in Warmism (thus renewable energy crony capitalist scams), and whose health care program served as the model for the abomination of Obamacare.
This cannot be done by a Johnny One Note who can only talk about his tax reform plan that will take years to implement (if ever), and thus will do absolutely nothing to immediately revive the economy and create massive job growth.
This cannot be done by anyone pretending his business experience can be applied to running a government. Governments and their bureaucracies are the opposite of a for-profit business and cannot be run on business principles. Governments, the federal government in particular, can only be run on Constitutional principles, which means eliminating all federal activities, programs, agencies, and departments not enumeratedly authorized by the Constitution. (Not all at once but in an orderly manner – Rome wasn’t torn down in a day.)
This can be done only by someone with successful executive government experience who is committed to those Constitutional restrictions, most particularly those embodied in the 10th Amendment.
I wish that person well in the debate next Tuesday and in the months of campaigning to come. The 2012 GOP nomination campaign will be a test of endurance. It will not and mathematically cannot be won quickly.
30 states hold their GOP primaries before April, which are by new RNC rules proportional. A candidate who wins a majority or plurality of votes in these primaries only gets his proportion of the delegates – it’s not winner-take-all. 55% of the votes, say, gets you 55% of the delegates, no more.
Further, because they are in violation of RNC rules for insisting on ridiculously early primaries, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina, Florida, Arizona, and Michigan will be penalized with a loss of half of their delegates. Iowa is a non-binding caucus so it’s just a pr show.
The race will not be won until deep into April – and thus will be won by the best funded, best organized, and most determined never-give-up persistent candidate. For America’s sake, let that candidate be also the most Constitutionally principled.
If it’s on foreign policy, Newt will again blow everyone off the stage. Newt is really the best candidate for president. People should vote for Newt for the greater good and forgive him his transgressions. If people can forgive Bill Clinton, they can forgive Newt.
Gingrich or Perry 2012.
rethink Newt
I’m w/ you. I have voted for Perry in every state-wide election but have never been a big Perry supporter; until now, that is. He may not be the best ‘candidate’ right now and he may not be the darling of the political establishment but I’m convinced that he will make the best president – especially if he could have Newt by his side.
please, with all due respect…
Perry is an idiot, an open borders idiot
Will Romney hire Obama’s climate-change guru Holdren?
http://hotair.com/archives/2011/10/15/will-romney-hire-obamas-climate-change-guru-holdren/
This is the guy who thought it was a good idea to put something in the water to sterilize people. Romney’s even worse than we thought.
“Romney’s even worse than we thought.”
Romney is a non-starter for me. I will not vote for him.
It would be a good thing for the country if the GOP establishment would get that through their terribly thick skulls.
We have an 80 year old U.S. Senator Lugar that stands shoulder to shoulder with the U.S. Armed Forces are “Jack Booted Thugs” Dickie Durbin and supports a seriously needed but destructively flawed Dream Act. And you think you have problems with the GOP establishment? Sorry for our problems.
Nice to see that the Dems and RINOs have both picked Romney v. Obama for us to choose from — backed by the likes of Corey Robin how could they be wrong?
The ballot thus becomes an artifact of a system that no longer exists in fact, for this leaves us up for a continuation of the Kennedy effect.
Seems to me, for those not willing to die for the Constitution and what they believe in, are not going to fare too well in a rejection of the status quo if all they get is PC BS and retrograde socialism bordering on collapse.
Nowhere in the radical play-books or social theory do we find what’s to do once those who produced are wiped out or caged.
One way to eliminate uncertainty is with these government made IEDs.
Civil civil disobedience is a very conservative affair – those that cannot see the distinction and the differences have only been playing with words and may not survive the consequences
And don’t forget Rush’s shot across the bow of the Romney/Establishment campaing w/ his ‘he’s a nice guy and gentleman but he’s no conservative’ comment. Now even Newt is taking a swing saying the same thing but w/ different language. If Perry can get real w/ folks on the debate stage like he does when giving a speech and talking face to face w/ people, this thing could get real interesting real quick and that ‘inevitable’ tag may be quickly erased. Can always hope…
Speaking of Fox News & Republican establishment don’t leave out the blowhards like Dick Morris and now (sadly) Ann Coulter. Morris likes to build up Cain but if you listen to him closely you’ll understand that he’s a Romney guy. And now w/ Coulter “warming to Romney” all she wants is someone who she will think will win. She puts her conservative credentials on the shelf in order to win an election. I see it as a sell-out and it makes me both mad and sad.
While you have the bleached blonde conservative woman, Jennifer Rubin, and others pitching Inevitability, it could all be nothing more than wishful thinking.
Romney garners no more than 25% of the GOP electorate irrespective of all the flacking by the inevitability choir. Endorsements by Christie, Pawlenty, etc. have done nothing to move the needle for Romney above the 25% ceiling.
The contest for the nomination is bifurcated. You have the establishment candidates of Romney and Huntsman on one side. You have the conservative Tea Party candidates of Bachmann, Perry, Cain, etc. on the other. As such, Romney is running unopposed while the conservative side, cumulatively with the majority of the electorate competing with one another.
To defeat Romney, one possibly two conservative Tea Party candidates need to drop out. Even Bachmann dropping out would redistribute votes between Cain or Perry and could prove decisive.
There is a reason Romney is forcing the primaries forward on the calendar, so that the contests will take place with the current roster of candidates in place.
There is also a reason why Romney chose in the last debateno to pose a challenging question to either Perry or Cane, instead making an encouraging complement to Bachmann. He needs her to stay in the race.
Jen Rubin is a brunette.
I hope the media anoints Romney the “inevitable candidate.”
This is the LAST thing Romney wants. His entire campaign strategy has been to sit in second place, let everyone else take turns passing him, and sit idly by while the media tears the stuffing out of each frontrunner. He hopes that by being the last remaining palatable candidate, he will seem the most electable. Well, once they’ve anointed him, they’ll start attacking him, just the same, perhaps he isn’t aware of this.
And once they’ve torn Romney down, only Cain will remain.
There are many who won’t vote for Mitt Perry or Rick Romney in the primaries. Given that choice they will work to get non establishment House members elected.
Long and the short of Mitt Romney: Apparently a decent man, but the need for stronger and more definitive leadership from a conservative is absolutely necessary. He is NOT the guy to do that, nor the disposition to handle the fight that is before us. Honestly, I am sorry for the Republican winner of the Presidential election, it will be a brutal four years that will demand a man/woman of considerable fortitude and focus. This will be a monumental task of rolling a very large and largely independant beuracracy back. Whoever the Republican winner is will have my loyalty and support. We must press forward for the sake of our Nation and our children. Semper Fi!
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