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		<title>By: Willaim Dunigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willaim Dunigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 03:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greetings to one and all: In that most precious name. That name which is above every name, the name: &quot;Jesus&quot; 

There&#039;s tremendous power in that name. I&#039;d suppose we&#039;ll never fully realize all that can truly be accomplished, by us simply calling out that name in true faith.

There&#039;s an old, old, gospel song that goes like this: Faith in the Father, faith in the Son, faith in the Holy Spirit, great victories are won. Demons will tremble and sinners will awake, faith in Jehovah will anything shake.

For you who have never come into this realization, if you&#039;re reading this, just give him a welcome into your heart and life. You will both feel and see an awesome difference. You will have also purchased the ticket to heaven (by accepting, therefore making him welcome to come into your life. You will also sup from His cup that contains living water. (As did the woman at the well of Bethesda.) John 4:10

Much love, 

Your brother in Christ Jesus, who is both our Lord, and Savior.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greetings to one and all: In that most precious name. That name which is above every name, the name: &#8220;Jesus&#8221; </p>
<p>There&#8217;s tremendous power in that name. I&#8217;d suppose we&#8217;ll never fully realize all that can truly be accomplished, by us simply calling out that name in true faith.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s an old, old, gospel song that goes like this: Faith in the Father, faith in the Son, faith in the Holy Spirit, great victories are won. Demons will tremble and sinners will awake, faith in Jehovah will anything shake.</p>
<p>For you who have never come into this realization, if you&#8217;re reading this, just give him a welcome into your heart and life. You will both feel and see an awesome difference. You will have also purchased the ticket to heaven (by accepting, therefore making him welcome to come into your life. You will also sup from His cup that contains living water. (As did the woman at the well of Bethesda.) John 4:10</p>
<p>Much love, </p>
<p>Your brother in Christ Jesus, who is both our Lord, and Savior.</p>
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		<title>By: Scout</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/in-between-sermons-avatar-a-stunning-experience/#comment-476300</link>
		<dc:creator>Scout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jan 2010 03:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are trying to have it both ways - first you blast the movie because you deem that it is targeting the Iraq situation, then you blast it for getting it&#039;s blasting wrong, since you rightly point out the NaVi do not parallel the Iraqi regime very well at all and the US is not taking oil out of Iraq, like the humans are trying to take unobtainium off of Pandora.  Could it not be that these latter points just mean that your first hypothesis is wrong - this film is not making any point about Iraq because as you yourself point out, it doesn&#039;t fit.  Remember, it was you, not the film-makers who made any such claim.

Broaden your perspective - if any commentary is there, I personally see it as a statement about situations like this which have repeated themselves incessantly throughout human history like an archetypal story - clashes of cultures, battles for dominance that ultimately involve misunderstanding and exploitation.  There might be overtones of Iraq there but they clearly are not the main commentary, just an acknowledgement that hints of these deeper broader older themes and stories may exist there too. 

I did also notice similarities to themes in the books of Orson Scott Card - except that Card does them with more subtlety and depth.  Even so, I thoroughly enjoyed the movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are trying to have it both ways &#8211; first you blast the movie because you deem that it is targeting the Iraq situation, then you blast it for getting it&#8217;s blasting wrong, since you rightly point out the NaVi do not parallel the Iraqi regime very well at all and the US is not taking oil out of Iraq, like the humans are trying to take unobtainium off of Pandora.  Could it not be that these latter points just mean that your first hypothesis is wrong &#8211; this film is not making any point about Iraq because as you yourself point out, it doesn&#8217;t fit.  Remember, it was you, not the film-makers who made any such claim.</p>
<p>Broaden your perspective &#8211; if any commentary is there, I personally see it as a statement about situations like this which have repeated themselves incessantly throughout human history like an archetypal story &#8211; clashes of cultures, battles for dominance that ultimately involve misunderstanding and exploitation.  There might be overtones of Iraq there but they clearly are not the main commentary, just an acknowledgement that hints of these deeper broader older themes and stories may exist there too. </p>
<p>I did also notice similarities to themes in the books of Orson Scott Card &#8211; except that Card does them with more subtlety and depth.  Even so, I thoroughly enjoyed the movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Whittler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whittler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The effects were so realistic that I was immersed into the movie and quickly forgot that I was wearing the glasses and experiencing a special effect. 

With that said, I have to agree with Elize. I am impressed that so many of you can apply your knowledge of history and sci-fi in ways that interpret the movie differently, but for the left, this is pure Bush-bashing joy.  After the line about fighting &quot;terror with terror&quot; a guy sitting right in front of me loudly said, &quot;George W. Bush&quot; for the benefit of anyone unable to pick up on the movie&#039;s not so subtle politics. 

One point I would add to the article in showing how this really isn&#039;t relevant to current events is the difference in handling prisoners.  The Na&#039;vi pretty much send you home to Earth unharmed after the fighting is over. We all know what Al Quaeda does to prisoners, civilian or otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The effects were so realistic that I was immersed into the movie and quickly forgot that I was wearing the glasses and experiencing a special effect. </p>
<p>With that said, I have to agree with Elize. I am impressed that so many of you can apply your knowledge of history and sci-fi in ways that interpret the movie differently, but for the left, this is pure Bush-bashing joy.  After the line about fighting &#8220;terror with terror&#8221; a guy sitting right in front of me loudly said, &#8220;George W. Bush&#8221; for the benefit of anyone unable to pick up on the movie&#8217;s not so subtle politics. </p>
<p>One point I would add to the article in showing how this really isn&#8217;t relevant to current events is the difference in handling prisoners.  The Na&#8217;vi pretty much send you home to Earth unharmed after the fighting is over. We all know what Al Quaeda does to prisoners, civilian or otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Leatherneck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leatherneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 00:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the movie. Avatar is new age religion all the way, and made everyone to feel bad for not worshiping the creation.

The sacred tree, earth worship, and we all go back as energy to be reused.

It is a film to dazzal, and mislead millions away from the true truth. G-d so loved the world he gave his only begotten son to die for mankinds sin. Through Christ&#039;s defeat of death and sin is the only way to everlasting life.

The movie is more like want happened before Noah&#039;s flood. Half human hybreds,(giants, Nephelim, earth born, ruled the world, and corrupted DNA, and religion.

Perhaps, the Marine is the Anti-Christ connected to the Red Dragon leading mankind away from the true truth.

Way to go Hollywood. Worship yourself as a god, and creation, rather than the Creator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the movie. Avatar is new age religion all the way, and made everyone to feel bad for not worshiping the creation.</p>
<p>The sacred tree, earth worship, and we all go back as energy to be reused.</p>
<p>It is a film to dazzal, and mislead millions away from the true truth. G-d so loved the world he gave his only begotten son to die for mankinds sin. Through Christ&#8217;s defeat of death and sin is the only way to everlasting life.</p>
<p>The movie is more like want happened before Noah&#8217;s flood. Half human hybreds,(giants, Nephelim, earth born, ruled the world, and corrupted DNA, and religion.</p>
<p>Perhaps, the Marine is the Anti-Christ connected to the Red Dragon leading mankind away from the true truth.</p>
<p>Way to go Hollywood. Worship yourself as a god, and creation, rather than the Creator.</p>
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		<title>By: Elize Nayden</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/in-between-sermons-avatar-a-stunning-experience/#comment-473770</link>
		<dc:creator>Elize Nayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 11:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but how can anyone overlook the typically leftish plot here (even though I dont see it so much in the light of the Iraq-war)? This is civilizational exhaustion at its best. Bad, Bad humans completely ruined earth with their capitalist greed and now an evil corporation tries to get its hands on the planet of peaceful and so much wiser aliens who live, of course, in complete harmony with nature, without any technology. Its the xenophilic and selfhating delusion mixed with strong eco-cult elements, a despise for the military and capitalism and the glorification of the never dying romantic image of the wise savage. Im not very impressed by pictures but the story is important for me and to talk about a &quot;50 cent script&quot; gives the story too much credit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but how can anyone overlook the typically leftish plot here (even though I dont see it so much in the light of the Iraq-war)? This is civilizational exhaustion at its best. Bad, Bad humans completely ruined earth with their capitalist greed and now an evil corporation tries to get its hands on the planet of peaceful and so much wiser aliens who live, of course, in complete harmony with nature, without any technology. Its the xenophilic and selfhating delusion mixed with strong eco-cult elements, a despise for the military and capitalism and the glorification of the never dying romantic image of the wise savage. Im not very impressed by pictures but the story is important for me and to talk about a &#8220;50 cent script&#8221; gives the story too much credit.</p>
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		<title>By: zapglow</title>
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		<dc:creator>zapglow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 05:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Javelin:

Depends on which version you&#039;re referring to. The George Pal film was more about a redo of WW II, only with Martians and energy weapons rather than the Japanese or German militaries. The Spielberg film was more faithful to the book in that it at least contained more elements from the original source. The original book had a lot of references to colonialism to it, in that was a burning issue in Europe at the dawn of the 20th century. But I always thought that was just a mask for Wells&#039; eugenics cheerleading. He clearly thought that his Martians were the idealized blueprint for the human race in a progressive future. His early stories ended with a restoration of the old order, but he was obviously excited about the what he thought was the inevitable rule of a scientocracy in the future. If Wells had written Avatar the party looking to crush all opposition and rule both worlds wouldn&#039;t be an aggressive military force, nor greedy corporate bosses, but the scientists themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Javelin:</p>
<p>Depends on which version you&#8217;re referring to. The George Pal film was more about a redo of WW II, only with Martians and energy weapons rather than the Japanese or German militaries. The Spielberg film was more faithful to the book in that it at least contained more elements from the original source. The original book had a lot of references to colonialism to it, in that was a burning issue in Europe at the dawn of the 20th century. But I always thought that was just a mask for Wells&#8217; eugenics cheerleading. He clearly thought that his Martians were the idealized blueprint for the human race in a progressive future. His early stories ended with a restoration of the old order, but he was obviously excited about the what he thought was the inevitable rule of a scientocracy in the future. If Wells had written Avatar the party looking to crush all opposition and rule both worlds wouldn&#8217;t be an aggressive military force, nor greedy corporate bosses, but the scientists themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Javelin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Javelin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 03:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zapglow, even War of the Worlds had an anti-colonialism theme built into it, though far more subtle than this one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zapglow, even War of the Worlds had an anti-colonialism theme built into it, though far more subtle than this one.</p>
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		<title>By: gho</title>
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		<dc:creator>gho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 03:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with A.W. wholeheartedly.  This is a DIRECT rip off of Orson Scott Card. Let me briefly summarize the relevant part of the Ender series: the humans encounter an alien race on a planet upon which the humans cannot breath.  When the aliens die, they have a seed placed in their body.  When the tree grows, it has absorbed their soul and is part of a huge, sentient network of their ancestors into which the aliens can tap and commune. Is any of this sounding familiar yet?

If I were Orson Scott Card, I&#039;d be livid.  Its as if Cameron took that one part out of the Ender series and just made it into a movie with a few extra pieces added to avoid having to pay royalties.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with A.W. wholeheartedly.  This is a DIRECT rip off of Orson Scott Card. Let me briefly summarize the relevant part of the Ender series: the humans encounter an alien race on a planet upon which the humans cannot breath.  When the aliens die, they have a seed placed in their body.  When the tree grows, it has absorbed their soul and is part of a huge, sentient network of their ancestors into which the aliens can tap and commune. Is any of this sounding familiar yet?</p>
<p>If I were Orson Scott Card, I&#8217;d be livid.  Its as if Cameron took that one part out of the Ender series and just made it into a movie with a few extra pieces added to avoid having to pay royalties.</p>
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		<title>By: zapglow</title>
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		<dc:creator>zapglow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 04:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ M. Report:

Excellent quote.

And spot on with the ID4 aliens. Worse than H.G. Well&#039;s Martians, who where at least driven to their plight by a dying ecosystem, contempt for the locals, and limited worlds within range for relocation.

I&#039;m not ready to concede Unobtanium as necessary for Earth&#039;s survival. I just don&#039;t think the humans were desperate enough. Sure, the RDA acted like greedy bastards when push came to shove, but the situation had taken years to get this bad. They had tried trade negotiations, or at least their previous agents had. And they did balance direct assault against bad press at home. If the mineral was of direct survival value at home I&#039;m not sure there&#039;d be any significant civilian opposition. Also I think we&#039;d have sent in the real Marines first and the miners later, unless the RDA was a corrupt contractor for a corrupt government. I think it was more about greed on the RDA&#039;s part. Cheaper to kill the locals to get at &quot;all that cheddar&quot;.

You know what gets me is all the people who jump political in their reviews, automatically seeing a critique of Iraq. Sure, there are some throwaway lines, contemporary to this decade. All movies have that. But this plot device of one of &quot;us&quot; going &quot;native&quot; is well established. Edgar Rice Burroughs was doing it a hundred years ago on Mars, Venus, Africa, even the center of the Earth. C.J. Cherryh&#039;s done it for several times. So did Heinlien, Thomas Berger, Rudyard Kipling, and at least half the cowboy movies made since 1960. Superman wasn&#039;t born in Kansas, and he sure as hell preceded Vietnam and Iraq.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ M. Report:</p>
<p>Excellent quote.</p>
<p>And spot on with the ID4 aliens. Worse than H.G. Well&#8217;s Martians, who where at least driven to their plight by a dying ecosystem, contempt for the locals, and limited worlds within range for relocation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not ready to concede Unobtanium as necessary for Earth&#8217;s survival. I just don&#8217;t think the humans were desperate enough. Sure, the RDA acted like greedy bastards when push came to shove, but the situation had taken years to get this bad. They had tried trade negotiations, or at least their previous agents had. And they did balance direct assault against bad press at home. If the mineral was of direct survival value at home I&#8217;m not sure there&#8217;d be any significant civilian opposition. Also I think we&#8217;d have sent in the real Marines first and the miners later, unless the RDA was a corrupt contractor for a corrupt government. I think it was more about greed on the RDA&#8217;s part. Cheaper to kill the locals to get at &#8220;all that cheddar&#8221;.</p>
<p>You know what gets me is all the people who jump political in their reviews, automatically seeing a critique of Iraq. Sure, there are some throwaway lines, contemporary to this decade. All movies have that. But this plot device of one of &#8220;us&#8221; going &#8220;native&#8221; is well established. Edgar Rice Burroughs was doing it a hundred years ago on Mars, Venus, Africa, even the center of the Earth. C.J. Cherryh&#8217;s done it for several times. So did Heinlien, Thomas Berger, Rudyard Kipling, and at least half the cowboy movies made since 1960. Superman wasn&#8217;t born in Kansas, and he sure as hell preceded Vietnam and Iraq.</p>
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		<title>By: M. Report</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Report</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 45. zapglow: Viking economy

&quot;It is well enough, to go in Viking
as a youth, but when a man grows
older, he sees that the real wealth
is here at home, in the land.&quot;

ID aliens = Zenophobic scum

Terrans needed Unobtanium to survive ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 45. zapglow: Viking economy</p>
<p>&#8220;It is well enough, to go in Viking<br />
as a youth, but when a man grows<br />
older, he sees that the real wealth<br />
is here at home, in the land.&#8221;</p>
<p>ID aliens = Zenophobic scum</p>
<p>Terrans needed Unobtanium to survive ?</p>
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