Importing Violence: Immigration, Crime, and Why We Need Assimilation
In 2008 a 36-year-old illegal immigrant from Mexico named Olivar Roblero attempted to kidnap his 9-year-old neighbor. Authorities learned that prior to the kidnapping attempt Roblero had failed to buy the girl from her parent. He told the mother he wanted the girl to be his wife and he’d treat her well. Rebuffed, Roblero tried to resort to the “rapto” of his native country.
Even if he was aware of U.S. law regarding such matters Roblero clearly thought that Americans viewed sex, marriage, and child brides the same way he did. It does not excuse his attack, but it does raise questions about how isolated from the American mainstream this man was, even after living in the country for years. No one in his community told him that American families don’t sell their pre-pubescent daughters to men in their late 30s? Doesn’t that illustrate the need for a policy of assimilation?
But the acceptance of these un-American values also changes our society as we absorb them. In 2009, 11-year-old Julissa Rodriguez ran away to Mexico with a 23-year-old man named Enrique Vasquez. Oddly, news reports and even some community members treated the 23-year-old as though he was little Julissa’s boyfriend as opposed to a pedophile. Julissa was molested by a pedophile who convinced her to run away with him and news reports treated the child like a 17-year-old out on a lark.
In a clearer case of American moral values losing ground to third world barbarity, an 11-year-old Hispanic girl in Texas was brutally gang raped by more than 10 assailants who filmed the attack. A reporter who viewed the arrest affidavit wrote that the attack details were too obscene to repeat. Defenders of the attackers, all of whom were African-Americans, claimed that the 11-year-old was a slut who wanted to be violently raped. Even the New York Times ran an article that blamed the victim for “dressing older” than she was. The brutalized child was treated in a more sexualized way than any adult rape victim. It’s hard to believe that the acceptance of Latin and Central American misogyny played no part in both the crime and the reaction to it.
Footsoldiers of the Left.
So help me, it’s deliberate. Deliberate!
What Party rules the agency hiring system?
Which Party created affirmative action to selectively pack the agencies with loyalists?
So which Party bosses set immigration screening criteria?
And convicts will remember who ‘helped’ defend them!
Good gosh, they’re just being recruited as hired muscle to aid the Overseer class
“Hey Dufrene, I could help ya, but I got a little problem with this councilman over there, yeah, that one”
Of course it’s deliberate. They are doing the same in England, Canada, Australia and the rest of Europe. The pattern is the same in every western country in the world. Flood the country with third world illiterates against the will of the people, while encouraging them to keep their culture for the sake of diversity. Discourage assimilation and brand anybody who complains as a racist. Instant underclass of victims to celebrate.
The problem is allowing turd worlders into the US in the first place. You cannot make a silk purse out of a sows ear.
Thank you ted kennedy. I hope that scumbag is rotting in hell.
“survey says?!!”
If you’re going to turn a serious issue into your petty and ignorant racism at least spell your handle right.
And there you have the liberal attack machine calling someone a racist for complaining about all the ignorant third world people – when no race was mentioned!
So, what exactly is racist? Saying that US and Western values are superior to the barbaric third world? Pointing out that these criminals came from inferior third world societies? I suspect what really bothers you is that, as a Leftist, you know you are partly responsible for these crimes.
Asian values are pretty good too. Latino,Black and moslem…. not so much.
Ya think? I tend to doubt it. I’d say that they’re pretty much going to hell in a hand basket there in Asia, too.
Yep, my bad… you be real smert.
On the Left, saying “If the shoe fits wear it” is thrown out in favor of a massively complicated philosophy with all the accompanying PC mitigation and excuses to explain away every failure in the Third World. The British were still the British, even when a few took over all of India. The Haitians will still be the Haitians no matter where they go. Success and failure are not rearranged by ocean voyages.
Fantom, you are so right. That turd murderer, Ted Kennedy, is the reason that we are inundated with the scum of the earth. It was his immigration Bill that changed our immigration policy. Of course, none of these people lived near him. I can’t think what goes on in the minds of these people to import criminality and perversion. Anything to denigrate the USA. Anyone we allow into our country should be an asset to our country. PERIOD.
“…we’re a civilized society that recognizes how exploitative and dangerous it is for adults to have sexual relations with children.”
And this, too, is changing. Everyone seems to think that disgust of pedophilia is universal and iron-clad. Pedophile activists are currently laying the foundation for their social acceptance. When they make their longed-for changes it will seem sudden. And the lazy, comfortable populace will be scratching their heads and wondering, “When did this happen?” when they find themselves fired from their jobs for making “hateful and Pedophobic” remarks about “inter-generational intimacy.”
Roman Polaski
Yep. Hollywood is our enemy, and has been for many decades. Yet “conservative” Americans keep supporting them.
Bread and circuses work wonders for dictators.
Actually, I’ve been watching it happen for years. I’m not surprised. Anybody who laughs the idea of a slippery slopes for “gay rights” and abortion is either an enemy or happily ignorant.
Abortion leads to infanticide and eugenics (abortion of infanticide of children with birth defects), assisted suicide, and then to euthanasia (“duty to die”).
“Gay rights” leads to other perversions being “mainstreamed” including pedophilia. Also to polygamy.
All things considered we’re in pretty dire shape.
We’re already on that slippery slope to accepting polygamy because Muslim immigrants are bringing that cultural artifact with them, and our leaders are too squeamish to deal with it. (Wouldn’t want to upset our Muslim neighbors; they might be “offended” and get mad.) It’s happening in Canada. In the UK, though polygamy is illegal, if that second, third or fourth marriage is carried out in a country in which it is legal, the UK will recognize it – even provide welfare to support it!
Huh? Nice broad brush you paint with where did you buy it? America already has a culture of misogyny; just look at rap, movies, sports, and politicians trying to regulate women’s bodies.
Heck, just look at the Kennedys, Clinton, and the way the Democrats treated his accusers!
Dontcha know expecting adult women to care for themselves by paying a co-pay on any birth control they choose to use is JUST AS BAD as kidnapping and raping a 12-year-old? (I am being sarcastic.)
Exactly! Don’t forget the weiner who cheated on his gorgeous wife with Vegas poker trash.
Regulations regarding minor surgery (abortion) is the same as having sex with children? Really?
And of course, America looks like the savage place to them, with 50,000,000 dead fetuses.
It’s the baby’s mangled body we are concerned with.
You can’t be a REAL conservative if you are immoral. At least, that’s what the Founding Father’s thought.
If all abortions were performed in the first month, or better yet the first week, of pregancy the prolife movement would dry up like a field in a drought. If it weren’t for the real horror of late-term abortions, still a rarity in any case, there never would have been any opposition to morning after pills which simply prevent a fertilized egg from implanting itself in the uterus. You can’t build a hysterically emotional mass movement over the “rights” of a single cell, or an unrecognizable pinhead-sized blob which is what the human embryo is in the first 4 weeks. You just can’t. Valid and rational ethical arguments, yes; hysterical mass movements, no.
Trying to regulate women’s bodies how?
More accurately, condemning infanticide.
Rob,
Assimilation is a two-way street. Even if all of these third worlders absorb 75% of our values and way of doing things, they will bring to us at least a 25% non-American outlook and way of seeing American culture. It’s called a melting pot for a reason: substances poured into a melting pot form a new mixture which is an impure version of what came before. If you don’t want these problems, don’t bring in these immigrants. It’s just that simple.
You sound like a half-liberal when you make comments like that. Faith in our traditions is a red herring when you are talking about people who don’t even have cultural common ground with our traditions and values. You don’t seem to understand that the best they can ever do is see our values and traditions through the lens of their upbringing. Assimilation of such people can only be done on an individual, very limited basis. What we are doing is importing vastly too many third worlders to make it work. Family cohesion policies are one of the main reasons why.
You make a great point. In the past all of our immigration came from Europe. So even if their “cultures” were of a different flavor (German, Swiss, Polish, French, German, Irish, Scot, etc), they all basically came to us with the same values and customs. They enriched our culture without taking anything from it. The only people that came here that didn’t share our values and culture were the Chinese and they still haven’t completely melted into our culture even after 150 years. Rather, they congregate into little Chinatowns all over the country. I’m sorry for other countries, but we really need to stick to our own culture and only allow immigration from those that share our culture and values.
Do not confuse congergating for safety in numbers with exclusivity. It hasn’t been that long since Asians were activily persecuted, in this country. That happened within my life time! There are to this day neighborhoods in Chicago that are decidedly ethnic. Little Italy??? Chinatowns across America were the designated places to keep THEM!!! You might be interested to know most Chinese do not live in Chinatown.
And regardless of why those enclaves exist, each one of them is a point against the argument that assimilation really worked in the past. Many did assimilate, but many did not or did so to degrees that only created a hybrid culture.
Robert, I think you have a good point: forcing immigrants to not assimilate guarantees that they won’t. We need to fix our immigration policy so that people coming across our border have a chance to become legal. Our borders are so long that I don’t think it’s feasible to have a wall along the whole thing, and Mexico, Haiti etc are such disasters that people are going to come here no matter what. So, right now, a Mexican pays a Mexican criminal $3000 I heard? to get smuggled across the border. He can’t work legally, can’t get a good place to live. So he works under the table and may or may not get his pitifully small earnings. He doesn’t have many opportunities to learn English because he’s stuck in his “ghetto”.
And yes, build the border wall where it’s feasible and effective, and guys like Dufrene are why I disagree with my pope on when criminals should be subject to the death penalty.
Assimilation is more than them learning English and being legal. It’s about them ceasing to be Mexican or African in their outlook on life and becoming American. Most Americans haven’t really understood that even if most immigrants try to assimilate, they’ll fail because they’ll interpret American culture through their ancestral homeland’s culture. That is to say, a Mexican immigrant will never be an “American” in the sense a native born is, but rather an adopted American who approaches American culture through the eyes of a Mexican.
“We need to fix our immigration policy so that people coming across our border have a chance to become legal.”
I was going to ask if you were insane, but I will not. However, I will say this way of looking at what is one of three major issues facing America going forward is simplistic if not dangerous.
Either by stupidity or ideology your view regarding immigration from Third World nations is killing our nation-our country. The problem is not assimilation is it immigration from these nation-states. These people do not want to be Americans but to use America. They do not want to improve America only to rape her for their own selfish, ignorant, tribalistic and inherently savage reasons. No amount of assimilation will convert these types of people into Americans and the progressive left knows it and cherishes it. Because at some tipping point anarchy will take off and they will have their version of America.
Mike, I agree that immigrants need to assimilate; my point is that it’s more likely that immigrants will assimilate if they aren’t more or less forced to be in their “ghettos” because they’re illegal. Throughout our history, there have been “Know-Nothings” like bettina below that have an irrational fear of the latest batch of immigrants, especially if they’re Papists or beige. I know quite a few immigrants, from many different parts of the world including Haiti. Most want to assimilate. Recent Moslem immigrants are a different story imo. I think another problem was that until a decade or so ago, many Spanish-speaking immigrants’ children were being taught in Spanish, in school. So even after kids got out of school, they didn’t have the advantage that our ancestors had, of learning English in school. Add in the next group of immigrants with the previous one “held back” and then start posting everything in Spanish? voila, permanent underclass. On my more pessimistic days, I suspect the Left did that on purpose so they’d have peasants to exploit (because a monarchy needs peasants).
blotto, I generally assume that if someone has a substantive response, he’ll start with it. If he instead resorts to invective, he usually has nothing substantive to say. Since you started by implying that I’m insane, it’s safe to guess that the rest of your post was equally void of substance so I didn’t read it.
So you’re saying a people who speak French and are 50% Catholic (Haitians) have nothing in common with the West. Got it. I’m half Black myself and that side of my family has been here since the 1700s. I suppose you’re going to say we too are a problem?
By the way – Mexico, like America, is not a racial identity. There are White Mexicans, Black Mexicans etc. They speak a European language. The ignorance of your not even thinly veiled David Dukism is clearly a ploy by some lefties like yourself to make Conservatives look bad.
I didn’t realize Roman Catholics used chicken blood and entrails in their rituals.
Well it is a bizarre strain of Catholicism I do admit. But the kennedy/peloser strain is far worse.
Rob, get off your high-horse and quit with the fake indignation. Tell me what have Haitians brought to our nation? Tell me what illegal immigrant Mexicans have brought to our country? Are you saying that both Haitians and Mexicans have been just as important to the growth of America as have been Eastern Europeans who legally immigrated here?
“I suppose you’re going to say we too are a problem?” Basically ignorant, brain dead leftists like yourself are a problem and are destroying our nation. If you voted for Dear Leader and follow the teachings of Wright and genuflect at the alter of the NAACP, yes you are a problem.
By design, its all part of the unmaking of America. Welfare has corrupted the population and turned many into the “gimmies”. Gimmie stuff paid for by my neighbor. Then there is the importation of large quantites of people who values are very different than those of “traditional” America.
“The left in this country has introduced the postmodern concept of subjective truth and morality into our culture, convincing many that American values are not superior — just different.”
Actually, the American left considers our “values” (they love the scare quotes) to be both inferior to those of more enlightened cultures and a threat to the rest of the world.
The same dynamic is at work in the UK, where the Labourites (New and Old) and even some Tories now openly admit to doing everything they could to encourage immigration from Africa, the MidEast, and other more “naturalistic” (their word) cultures to Britain, to make Britain more like the cultures those immigrants come from. Why? Because they, too, consider the British culture a threat to the sort of perfect world they imagine, which in their minds looks like a street in Mumbai.
Of course, most of them have only seen the streets where the tourist groups go; they’ve never been in the alleys. And that’s in India, other than Israel probably the most socially-evolved nation on the Asian mainland, and the only one that looks anything like an actual democracy. Then again, the enlightened elite’ in London don’t like actual democracy any better than our home-grown versions do.
When you say that illegal immigrants are bringing their culture with them, violence and all, the progressives cheer. It’s what they want, after all; something which will replace the culture they hate (ours) with one based on a rigid caste structure which they believe they will be eternally at the top of. And violence is always an effective way to terrorize the masses into obedience; this way, our enlightened social lions don’t even have to get their hands dirty to cause it.
The most amusing thing about this, to me, is the progressives’ celebration of “ethnic identity” and “ethnic communities” in this context. You see, I’m old enough to remember when such “ethnic communities” were considered proof of America’s shameful history of racism.
Because back then, they were called “ghettos”.
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Canada’s greatest writer on our own experiment.
The second comment is especially telling. The Jamaican gangs in Toronto have kept our police force fully occupied for years. Rumors had it that every once in a while they emptied the jails in Jamaica and shipped them north.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/09/14/george-jonas-trudeaus-experiment-with-multiculturalism-has-been-a-failure/
The Outer Limits sci-fi series aired an excellent episode about these creepy, violent creatures deposited on Earth by an alien species. It turns out these were the alien planet’s rejects.
In case you missed it, you can watch it here. There is little doubt in my mind that some countries are doing this very thing to the US.
This is not only happening in our country, but others as well. England, France, Sweden, Switzerland…what do these countries have in common? They are predominantly White. Their left-wing politicians have opened their borders to muslims and Somalians and all are seeing the devastation wrought by their policies. Muggings, robberies, murders and especially the raping of White women have increased dramatically. And what is the goal of this perverse policy? The extinction of the White race so they can achieve “One World Order”. Think I’m kidding? Go check out the website American Renaissance where you’ll be treated to an eye-opening experience.
Nice to see someone write an article that tells the truth. I’m sure you will be attacked by many on the left. Until countries wake up and stop all immigration for a while things will not improve. They are changing our culture and not for the better instead of our culture changing them to uphold more civilized values. After all the immigrants are the new Democratic voting block. Anything for a vote.
Dufrene is not an immigrant; he’s an ILLEGAL ALIEN taking advantage of a naive host. We do a disservice to law-abiding immigrants when we lump them in with those who could not care less about our laws.
As if the government makes the distinction. All they know is they prefer foreign-born to native-born.
I agree with that and thought I made it clear by juxtaposing him with his victim’s mother who was also an immigrant.
But Dufrene did start out as a legal immigrant and was allowed to stay by the government. He was never illegal.
I stand corrected.
Mark Steyn has called multiculturalism “societal Stockholm Syndrome,” and truer words have never been spoken. The effect described above depicts one “front” in the ongoing demographic war, in which America is slowly losing ground.
Inasmuch as our reproductive rates appear to be stalled at roughly replacement levels, and we have lost the will to compel new immigrants to assimilate, the only way we can preserve our culture against the assault of hostile invaders is to close the borders. I’d say it’s well past time.
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Had to comment after reading the headline.
We don’t need assimilation.
We just need to stop importing third worlders.
Europe is basically a third world nowadays. You for stopping them too?
Just copy Australia’s method of immigration. If they aren’t skilled in a job that we need, they can’t come over. At least until we can fix our economic problems we don’t need more people coming over that can barely contribute, if at all.
I don’t want them to “assimilate”. I want them GONE. Not here in the first place. The ONLY reason they are here is because they are not white and not European. That’s it. What value to they create? They are the Marxists’ ultimate weapon in the culture wars, the Gramscian neutron bomb. The tear down from within is being accomplished with every boatload/planeload/dry riverbank/desert crossing of more uncivilized hideous predators. Anyone reading this want to live near them? Associate with them? Have a BBQ with one of your radical Muslim neighbors? Invite their family over for coffee? They will NEVER assimilate. That is why they were chosen in the first place. And if you can’t wrap your head around that one, we surely are doomed.
I’m not White and European. You want me gone too?
If your comment proves you lack logic – then the answer is yes. We don’t need anymore people whose only argument and justification for being here is to fall back on their skin color. Been there, still doing it, and it’s long past its shelf life.
Query, what race commits the most murders per capita in the USA. Answer that and you can answer your own question.
Now why would we want to import more of the same culture/problem?
Yes!
Americans are not Nazis but pragmatic rationalists: we do not want people gone according to skin tone. What we want are people who put things on the table rather than take them off. Americans admire success and not skin. American and European tourists do not travel according to racial interests: they are everywhere from the Great Wall to Tikal to Abu Simbel to Borobodur. They admire art no matter who did it and in fact, this is the secret of the American success story: that we see good stuff where we find it, not where we want it or expect it to be.
You seem to have a faith that minorities don’t produce because of white people rather than their own cultural inadequacies. Any culture that I can identify as one that does not produce and contribute to America I want gone and I don’t care what they look like, just what they do. My country is not a lab experiment where it’ll take centuries to bring Somalians and Muslims up to speed. I have no brief in this regard and those countries don’t look out for me and mine in this manner. The Ascent of Man is a road traveled by those determined to do it, not blame their way through to the end.
Let Africa and the Middle East have their Enlightenment: until then stay home. America is not an airport and I am not a baggage handler dedicated to bringing the Third World into the 21st century by having them come now that tens of thousands of Americans have died and struggled to make the house look just right. Let others die and struggle in their own countries; there is no inherent right to emigrate; no matter what the depraved Dem Party thinks.
I have no idea whatsoever if you are white, brown, black, from here or a foreign country or any other affiliation. But you are right, and whatever of the above you are, I am with you to the end. That is the question and the answer.
Some red herrings in the comments in my opinion.
Immigration itself is not an issue. Assimiliation, as the article notes, is an issue. What is an important, but overlooked element contributing to these troubles is simple enforcement of the laws we already have.
0) illegal immigrants aren’t going to follow the rules getting in, why would they when they are in?
1) we should not be allowing immigrant felons in. Period. Dot. End.
2) Immigrant commits a felony? You are on the bus/plane tomorrow. Don’t pack, we do not care. you are leaving. Immigrant sneaks in and is caught a second time? Do not ship them home, plug them and plant them.
3) all documents are to be in English. Assimilation starts with basic language. You want to survive here? learn English. For those that are not aware, very few countries will even attempt to put anything but customs forms in anything but their native language. (there are a few though)
4) There must be some mechanism to present (and hold firm) that our culture rules here. Not Mexico’s, not Somalia’s, not Sweden’s, Nor Peru, Egypt, Russia, or Italy. Ours. Multiculti in tiny doses every now and then are fine, but we have no laws but our own. No ways but our own. How to do this I do not know…
Final thought…third worlders are not in itself problems ( My ex wife is/was third worlder and even though she is an ex, I can state that she has an absurdly solid work ethic), most of the problems are ours to have been made, and ours to solve. Many of which have been solved, but we lack the will to implement.
People all over the Third World have a solid work ethic; that’s not the issue – the issue is an aggressive intellect that can think beyond narrow confines. In the Third World you can’t even get people in hotels to not shout and slam doors at 4 am. Extrapolate that lack of peripheral awareness through an entire culture and it merely becomes a Third World in America. I’m not about to congratulate people for showing up to work but for starting an enterprise and endowing libraries.
Ever stop in American hotel in a college town? Uncivil behavior is not solely third world. Try going on a football weekend.
End all immigration: we have over 300 million and don’t “need” more people, especially from a completely depraved Third World. They still had paste pots in an upscale Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro post office just a few years ago; no glue on Brazilian envelopes. Brazil is the most successful and modern country in Latin America. Rio has 700 illegal slum/shanty towns. Haiti is at the other end of that “spectrum”
In the last 10 years 90% of our immigrants have come from the Third World. In case you’ve never been there, it’s a group of dog-eat-dog countries that would still be going to work in horse-drawn carriages were it not for the West. You can still see donkeys in downtown Cairo today. Why not just use a time machine to import people from the Dark Ages and be done with it?
Do you hope to collect on your Social Security? Look at our demographics.
We do need immigrants, we just need for them to be part of the solution- not part of the problem. Folks with useful skills first, then those willing to work hard in a fair system. The fair system is up to us. Part of this must be assimilation, one language, one understanding of law under our Constitution, to become part of one nation.
People from failed states, in particular, must be taught to respect the law and to be part of a mutually respectful community. They will not have seen that before, so we must provide, and, yes, enforce the example. Remember the old Bowery Boy’s movies. They might not like the cop, but they respected him, and their parents enforced that respect. The model now is to have the cop be the enemy, and for parents to have no authority after about age 10-11- which the Left’s social services model supports. Let them take care of children’s rights, they’re the “(scare quotes) experts”!
look.. dark bloods are 1/2 step out of the jungle (if that far).. they do not belong in civilized society.. they need to stop immigration from these countries and send the others that are here back.. just start putting them on ships and drop them off far far far away from our borders and shoot the ones that get caught trying to come back in.. we’ve done it before… too harsh???? tell me it’s too harsh when your little boy or little girl is gang raped and or killed.. white men and white women better wake up.. this is our country.. not these low life orangutans…
And your different from them how? You ain’t working today I see. Go back to the Stormfront/Ron Paul forums where you belong.
Of course you would use the words “storm front”. You have nothing else to offer in the way of a realistic logical argument Mr. Taylor. So you do what your type has been doing for half a century now. Imply evil where none is intended. So here’s the response you deserve, asked for even: put away your hammer and sickle brother. Lay down your Saul Alinsky playbook. Because we are onto you. And all your little name calling, smears, use of skin color to hide behind and provide justification for further destruction have all be done and overdone. Your “attacks” are juvenile and pathetic. And here’s the best part: there are MILLIONS of us out here who finally have gotten the courage to say piss off. We love our country more than we fear your Saul Alinsky tactics. The really remarkable part about the left is they revere a man who took PLAYGROUND tactics and elevated them into a left wing strategy: freeze the target, isolate, polarize? That’s called BULLYING. Name calling? Didn’t your momma tell you that’s not nice son? You know, the latest human behavior you lefties are trying to prosecute from kindergarteners on up? That’s right. You left wing con artists are busy trying to legislate bullying from childhood experience all the while using it to maintain a grip on your ill gotten power. So take a tip Mr. Taylor: keep playing the race card. Keep up the name calling. It will only make the other side stronger. That’s the flip side of bullying: sometimes the bullied get bigger. And meaner.
I can’t go there with you.
It is one thing to look at racial/cultural differences/characteristics and statistics derived therefrom in order to make sane policy as to who we want here.. IF we want anyone else.. White/Black/Brown or whatever.
We should grow our own is my position. With immigration limited to those , of any race, who grow our genetic base. An IQ test would be where I would start.
And that says Asians and Caucasians. Aversion to violence says you avoid Blacks and Latino.
These are truths, and that is not racist. Fact is not racist. Hanging Blacks from trees… nigh on a century ago may be racist. Blacks doing the “Knockout Game” today is racist.
And a word from the KKK? A leftie troll?
When my father came here, he spoke 5 languages, none of them English. As a child I (unfortunately) heard none of them. When we went to vacation to Europe, I was shocked to hear him speak fluent German. The only trace of his roots was that sometimes he got his V’s and W’s mixed up. My family wanted to assimilate.
Same story here, though they were my grandparents. My father and all their kids were given English names, the old language and food and culture were something my grandparents did at home, and not every day. They spoke to each other in English most of the time, they only went into Swedish when they didn’t want the kids to know what they were saying.
My grandmother 3 languages one of which was English. My grandfather 2 neither of which was English. My father and his older brother started first grade speaking only German. English immersion even though it was a German community. By second grade they were fluent in English. As an adult, he spoke virtually NO German, but was stationed in Germany when drafted. He learned German again while there, and was able to meet cousins he had never known. My grandfather had the equivalent of a Masters in Engineering but could only get a visa as a minister, so that is what he became in order to escape Hitler. I have no sympathy for illegal immigrants. In the past, people sacrificed a better life in their home countries to come to the US for its FREEDOM. Now people just come for the taxpayer provided subsidies. I have Great Aunts who went to college in the 1910′s who were first generation Americans. Now our first generation Americans are statistically more likely to be the parent of 2 than a high school graduate at age 18.
NYC has by far the lowest crime rate of any major city, and millions of immigrants, both legal and illegal, from all over the world. Reasons: 1)enforce the law. No double standards for the sake of multiculturalism or racial “sensitivity.” Just enforce the law. 2)keep ahead of the game. Do real surveillance and infiltration of any venue likely to foment trouble. If the liberals whine (as they are doing right now), tough. 3)enforce welfare reform. Jobs, not welfare. Immigrants want to work. Don’t tempt them with the slavery of welfare. 4)no gangs allowed. Watch for any hint of gang crime, and prosecute, prosecute, prosecute. Then when gang members are behind bars, keep them isolated from one another. Absolutely no gang activity in the prisons. That’s what solitary is meant for.
NYC does not have the lowest crime rte of any major city. It in fact has more gun crime than any city in the south where gun laws are more libertarian. I lived in NYC for many years. It’s a hell hole and the crime has nothing to do with race – the Irish and Italian areas have just as much as anywhere else.
That is not true. The crime/race bs you just stated. Crime, especially violent crime is dominated by Blacks, then Latinos on a racial per capita basis(Blacks, in the US for example, comprise just 12% of the population yet commit about 40% of the murders each year). Not just here in the US but worldwide.
Fact is truth, it is not racist.
Clarification: The 40% murder commission rate by race is US, however the disproportional racial violence is worldwide.
It’s not at the top, but you make yourself look silly by saying something so easily verifyable as untrue as “by far the lowest.” It runs about mid pack for cities with a population over 250,000, with per capita murder rate of 6.4/250K, and an overall annual violent crime rate of 581 per 250,000.
The lowest is Virginia Beach, very CCL friendly by the way, at 181/250K, and the highest is Detroit 1,880/250K. Ten times that of Virginia Beach.
Those of us that are American citizens are expected to follow our laws. Those immigrants that come here legally learn and obey those same laws. Enforce those laws. “We didn’t have that law in our country” is no excuse for not obeying it here. If someone commits an honor killing that’s first degree murder. They should get the death sentence or at least life in prison. If an Imam in a mosque preaches hate and that his congregation should go out and riot then arrest him for inciting to riot. Make it a hate crime and hit him with that too. There should be no cultural exceptions to our laws. Lady Justice is supposed to be blind for a reason. Race, creed or color should not be a factor in a court of law. “She asked for it by dressing too sexy” was thrown out as an excuse for rape long ago. It should not make a come back. Kidnapping is kidnapping no matter how they did it in their old country. It does not go over here. Enforce our laws damn it!
No cultural exceptions to our laws. Exactly. Brilliantly put.
Dead on.
Go to any politcally correct “festival” these days. They may call a “green” festival, “eco” festival, “peace festival” “diversity” festival etc I refer to them under the generic “hippie” festivals. You always see lots of so-called womens rights advocates scolding and preaching about “womens” rights and “greens” lecturing us about the enviorment and terrible western civilizatiopn is. You will also hear a lot people spouting the virtues of the third world how wonderful its people are. Yet , most of these worlders don’t give a rats behind about womens and childrens rights or endangered species. To elites on left, there is a double standard!
Originally people came here to shed their old culture for the new. Now they want to remake our country into the image of their old. Why should we want them here when they did nothing to improve where they were?
Never forget that many people whom you might not expect want them here. Some from the Left recruiting a militant wing. Some greedy for cheap, others want to see it fail to advance a variety of agendas.
All it would take is to prevent them from working or collecting social benefits. They would move on quickly enough. If the home country will not take them back, take that country’s visa privileges away.
Note too that the policy is racist, seeking to keep Blacks out of the work force, our fellow citizens, for a variety of reasons, having nothing to do with our national well being.
Yes. And there is a certain element among the evangelicals (as well as Lefty Catholics) who are also guilty of aiding and abetting ILLEGAL ALIENS.
DEATH SENTENCE for ALL Slavers!
DEATH SENTENCE for ALL Kidnappers!
Our Merciful God in the Bible, gave the death sentence for kidnapping. God sent children into the world as gifts to be protected not to become defenseless prey for selfish, vile, filthy monsters. People who do not believe this must NOT be allowed into this country or any other country. Protecting children, people and the nation is the top priority for a moral, civilized country.
Why is America and other non-Muslim countries importing massive numbers of Muslims? The Koran commands Muslims to conquer all nations. Why does America and other Western countries want us to be conquered by Islam?
Why does America and other Western countries want us to be conquered by Islam?
Because the Left feels like the West made a mistake by defending the Jewish people in the 1940s, and wants to make it up to the enemies of the Juden by handing our nations over to them.
Actually, the main reason the American and European progressives are so determined to assist an Islamic Triumph in any way they can comes in two flavors. I call them the Nomad Syndrome and the Manson Syndrome.
The Nomad Syndrome comes from the Star Trek (original series) episode “The Changeling”. In it, an Earth space probe called Nomad encountered an alien probe that somehow “merged” with it (yes, they recycled this plot in the very first movie in ’79). Nomad’s original program was to collect and sterilize soil samples as a first step to determining planets suitable for colonization.
After its encounter with the alien “Tan Ru” probe, its altered programming caused it to seek out “perfect” civilizations- and sterilize any which did not measure up to its standards. It destroyed two colony worlds before having the bad luck to cross paths with the USS Enterprise, the 800-pound gorilla of Star Fleet. Or more exactly Captain Kirk, the fastest talker this side of P.T. Barnum. (He didn’t destroy Nomad with his firepower, he basically confused it into self-destructing.)
In the Nomad Syndrome, progressives define themselves as perfect, and demand that the rest of society accede to their absolute rule on that principle. When society fails to do so, they conclude that the rest of us are actively refusing to become “perfect”. Therefore, they will do their best to destroy our society, and us, in the belief that our descendants (those who survive, that is) will be smart enough to shut up and obey their betters.
The Manson Syndrome comes from the Tate/LaBianca murder case, as described in Vincent Bugliosi and Curt Gentry’s book, “Helter Skelter”. Charles Manson planned the murders in the belief that the police and public would blame black militants for them. He was sure this would start a race war which he was equally sure the blacks would win because he considered them physically superior to everybody else. (Yes, he was and is a rabid racist.)
But, after it was all over, he was equally certain that the victorious black race would suddenly realize they were mentally incapable of running the Brave New World. At which point Manson and his “family” would come out of hiding, and rule the world as the high priests, god-kings, or whatever of the new civilization.
Modern-day progressives view Islamists the same way they viewed Communists, or whoever, after World War Two. As “useful idiots”, and cannon fodder, to bring down the civilization they despise- ours. But after their victory, these super warriors will suddenly have an epiphany, realize they are too stupid to run things, and beg the enlightened progressives to rule them, and the world, forever and ever, Praise Marx.
The fact that it is the sort of culture that the progressives adore (free love, free dope, etc.) that the Islamists really hate worse than anything else about the West is totally lost on them. Not to mention the Muslim tradition that rewards traitors who betray their city, etc., to the Muslims by beheading them first, so they won’t be around to double-cross their new Islamic overlords in turn.
If it wasn’t that the result would plunge the world into a new Dark Age that might never end, I’d almost think it was worth it to let the “enlightened ones” do their thing. Mainly because I am quite sure that as they were being bent over the headsman’s block, under the raised sword, they would still be saying “But can’t we TALK about this?”
The Nomad Syndrome and the Manson Syndrome. They explain a lot about why progressives behave they way they do.
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Who’s going to do something about the West’s culture if Misandry?
When are we going to stop teaching young males that they’re evil and should be striving to be girls instead?
And what happens when Western Misandry clashes with Muslim Misogyny?
The Jihadis win, that’s what.
I’m a male and wasn’t taught i was evil. Don’t hijack the important subject with a pet peeve popular among grievance mongers.
None of this has to do with “immigration” as such. IT all has to do with power, raw power over others. Or, in other words, election and reelection. As with school kids, immigrants are a pawn in the politics of Left and Right. And I just thought. Both parties are “Cutting off their noses (our country) to spite their faces (the other party). Talk about the irrational religious battles of Muslims and non-believers, Irish Catholics and protestants…You ain’t seen nothing yet! Sadly.
One of the myriad of bad effects of such importation of trouble are things like the Muslim’s slow motion invasion and creeping Shari’a, that is greatly aided and made possible by our spineless and clueless, politically correct judges and other officials, such conduct exemplified by the recent case in Pennsylvania where Cumberland county magisterial Judge Mark Martin (who claimed to have been on military service for a year and a half in Muslim countries and to be familiar with Islam, and who just happened to have a copy of the Qur’an in his office for perusal) acquitted a Muslim immigrant who admitted he attacked an atheist who was marching in a Halloween Parade in Mechanicsburg, PA costumed as “Dead Muhammad,” accepting the Muslim’s argument that since the Qur’an and Shari’a law said that he should defend Muhammad, and attack the enemies of Islam, the Muslim’s attack on the marcher was legitimate and justified.
According to reports, and partial transcripts and audio recordings of the proceedings (for whose apparent release the victim is apparently likely to be charged) Judge Martin also lectured the victim of the attack for several minutes about his not showing sufficient respect to Islam and Muhammad, and informed him that he was lucky (that he only got roughed up), since such disrespect to Muhammad carried the death penalty in Muslim lands, and that he had gone way beyond any right to free speech and religious expression guaranteed by our Constitution.
I note, too, reports that the Muslim defendant apparently released the name of the victim, who has already received close to 500 death threats.
Reports say that there was another atheist in the parade who was costumed as the “Dead Pope.” I wonder if someone who was a Catholic and attacked the “Dead Pope” guy would get the same pass the Muslim did, if he cited the Bible or some other Christian religious writing or teaching as his justification?
Apparently anyone who objects to Judge Martin’s handling of this case can lodge a complaint with the Administrative Office of Pennsylvania Courts (http://www.courts.state.pa.us/T/AOPC/default.htm).
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One of the biggest joys of Open Borders is the unlimited inflow of the dregs of the thirld world it allows into the United States.
The United States may make securing the border and deporting illegal immigrants a priority once a nuclear device (smuggled over the border by agents of Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia…) vaporises an American city (my money is on NY), but then again maybe not.
The United States of Bananastan – It’s change alright…
the LA city council wants to give illegal aliens drivers licences so that their cars do not get impounded for 30 days; causing a high fee that they cannot pay to retrieve their hooptie mobiles. but the city does not control the license law. however g. sedio (illegal alien state legislator) is also sponsoring a bill in sacrademento to give them an license. with the motor voter bill, the illegal aliens will control many elections. also, there is a push for no fault insurance paid for at the gas pump so that illegal aliens can drive their cars without proof of insurance. a state of the illegal aliens, for the illegal aliens, by the illegal aliens anchor babies at the capitol.
welcome to Mexifornia.
harvey
push 1 for English ONLY in the USA
From the L. A. Times
1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal , whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in Garages.
7. The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
8. Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.
10. In L. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.
(There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County . )
(All 10 of the above are from the Los Angeles Times)
Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States ‘ annual population growth (and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration. 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens.
We are a bunch of fools for letting this continue
Harvey, you just blew my mind. I knew it was bad, but not this bad.
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When you write:
Even if he was aware of U.S. law regarding such matters Roblero clearly thought that Americans viewed sex, marriage, and child brides the same way he did. It does not excuse his attack, but it does raise questions about how isolated from the American mainstream this man was,
you appear to ignore the attitude to illegal immigration which by degrading the law has reduced the rest to just so much verbiage, while the current PC view of forcing multiculturalism onto society and refusing to admit the differences between the cultures, with the exception of Christians and Jews of course whose differences in thinking are constantly being denigrated, making it plainly obvious to these “immigrants” that they can behave as they please.
One need only look at the Muslim community and their willful isolation from mainstream America to continue with their honour killings, child brides etc., to realize that there lacks in America a leader as forceful as Australia’s Prime Minister Julia Gillard:
We live in Laredo, TX, 97% hispanic. I am white, my wife is chinese, our adopted son is mexican.We are professionals and the local professionals with whom we interact are wonderful folks. But the vast majority of residents, both legal and illegal, are racist; hateful, and often openly hostile. These are not mexicans coming to Texas to become americans; they are mexicans living in Texas who are determined to remain mexicans forever.They think, speak, read and write exclusively in spanish. They follow a culture which has no respect for time constraints, commitments, efficiency, education, etc.They routinely lie, cheat and steal and think nothing of it. Their work product is always substandard, late, and frequently defective. They are noisy, selfish, greedy and ignore traffic rules. Many are stupid; almost all are ignorant of even the basics of our social contract. They seem genetically incapable of expeditious behavior.These will not assimilate. They refuse to be helped, corrected, changed. Almost all of their ventures fail, due to lack of effort and/or bad character. Who wants to do business with one known as a cheat? And, if the sign on the door says,”Open from 8Am to 8PM” and the operator is frequently not there during those hours, why would one play hide and seek in order to buy his potatos? We are trying to help our neighbors become americans, and it is an uphill struggle!
Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY White country and ONLY into White countries.
The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY White country and ONLY White countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-Whites.
What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-Blacks were brought into EVERY Black country and ONLY into Black countries?
How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem?
And how long would it take any sane Black man to notice this and what kind of psycho Black man wouldn’t object to this?
But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the White race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.
They say they are anti-racist. What they are is anti-White.
Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
USA what a great place. It provides victims for the use of criminal immigrants
The US Founders never would have imagined that an American elite so corrupt that they would dissolve the people and import anew one. But how about the WHITES? There future?
How is this not genocide:
White countries are being flooded by non-whites. We are told to be
TOLERANT. We are forced to integrate. With assimilation we see the
extinction of one race only, the white race.
Its not funny, not comedy, its white genocide.