Identity Politics and the Sotomayor Nomination
For many decades now, ethnic and gender diversity in the corridors of power and influence has been a goal accepted by most Americans. The arguments around it have centered mainly on the strategies by which it might best be achieved, not on whether diversity is a good thing in and of itself.
Democrat and Republican presidents alike have sought to create cabinets that “look like America,” and the Supreme Court has had a tradition, beginning with Justice Thurgood Marshall in 1967, of expanding to include blacks and then women. This process is not just to show how open-minded we have become; it is also strategically designed to appeal to minorities and woo their votes.
The nomination of Sonia Sotomayor is, in some ways, just a continuation of this trend. She would be the third woman to have served on the Court and the first Hispanic. Her “compelling” life story has been lauded by both sides, but her views have not — particularly those she expressed when addressing a 2001 Berkeley crowd gathered (appropriately enough) to celebrate judicial diversity by honoring the 40th anniversary of the appointment of the first Latino judge to a federal district court.
Sotomayor’s remarks there highlight a disagreement over the purpose of judicial diversity. There is general agreement on the first principle: Such diversity is an example of the triumph of equal opportunity in our country. We’ve all come a long way, baby, from the days when only white men could sit in those black robes and attempt to dispense dispassionate and impartial justice in the highest court in the land.
But there is a second and much more controversial purpose for diversity, one to which liberals and the Left are far more likely than conservatives and the Right to ascribe. Sotomayor conveyed this second goal in her speech to that Berkeley crowd: Appointing a judge of an ethnicity and/or gender considered previously underprivileged is a good thing because these traits are — and should be — an intrinsic part of the judge’s decision-making process and will affect it in ways she feels are positive.
In her speech, Sotomayor stated that she not only accepts that judges would vote differently based on gender and national origins, but that she hopes “a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life,” and that judicial impartiality is an aspiration that ignores these realities. That notion flies in the face of the overriding goal of an impartial legal system that is blind to such differences, with judges who are able to treat everyone as equal under the law.
The tension between these two strains of legal thought is not new. We see it in the evolution of the jury system. For example, the movie 12 Angry Men was made in 1957, when juries were still commonly all white and all male. It was only during the 60s and 70s that a series of legal rulings declared that juries, which make decisions about a person’s legal fate (and are supposed to do so impartially), must be more representative of America’s population in terms of race and gender. Inherent in that idea is that jury members will indeed be likely to bring their gender and racial identities to bear on their decisions — and that there will be fairer judgments if juries are more representative and diverse.
But juries are composed of untrained citizens. Judges are very different; they are supposed to be rigorously schooled and sworn to impartiality, and this must include the need to transcend their ethnic and racial and gender identities in the interests of justice. That is what Sandra Day O’Connor meant when she made the statement Judge Sotomayor quoted — and disagreed with — that “a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases.”
Sotomayor’s point of view is meant to celebrate diversity and its “richness.” Instead, it not only insults those white males whose lives are deemed likely to be lacking in the special attributes that would enable them to make decisions that are (in her opinion) as good as those of a Latina, but it abandons as impossible the quest for the judicial ideal of impartiality and equality under the law. Instead, it substitutes an identity politics that would, taken to its logical conclusion, end up requiring an almost infinite number of judges for every decision in order to achieve the requisite mix of sensibilities thought to lead to an aggregate of fairness.
This second goal of judicial diversity gives us a clue as to what was behind the ferocious liberal opposition, and even contempt for, Clarence Thomas. He had a story at least (if not more) compelling than Sotomayor’s. With a deeply impoverished childhood, abandonment by his father, and a mother who worked as a domestic, he was the first in his family to go to college. Thomas’s inspirational early life fully demonstrated the first principle of diversity: America as the land of opportunity for all. But his conservatism went against the second – the liberal/Left notion that a black man appointed to the Court should rule in ways that reflect his race in their eyes, conforming to the majority opinion of his fellow people of color. That is, he should be a liberal judge, or else his special sensibility as a black man is being wasted and his people are being betrayed. Such a judge is no longer an individual who is charged with the duty to exercise his best judgment; he is reduced to being a mere representative of his race.
It is one of the foundations of our legal system that, although a judge may be tempted to let such factors as his or her race and gender influence decisions, nevertheless he or she must mightily and forcibly resist that urge. That is what judicial impartiality and restraint is all about. The process of coming to a legal decision should be cerebral rather than emotional, and the ideal has been that if all justices were equally wise, they would all come to the same ideal conclusion.
Of course, it has always been understood that such an ideal cannot ever be reached in the real world. But the way to come closest to that ideal has always been thought to be to jettison the personal and the ethnic — and supposedly, even the political — in pursuit of it, rather than to embrace them.
Therapists are very different from judges. They deal with emotions rather than facts and law, and must try to help clients come to their own decisions rather than render judgments for them. But therapists face a similar dilemma in their work — how to be aware of the particulars of their own experience, including gender and racial makeup, while at the same time transcending them. Therapists are trained to avoid bringing their own history into the room in a way that will cloud their vision. They may identify with certain clients because of similar life circumstances, but they are required to be highly aware of this and to pay attention to the ways it might actually make it more difficult for them to see the client objectively and clearly. And it becomes too easy for them to project their own feelings inappropriately into the situation. Too much identification with the client is a trap into which therapists must be wary of falling.
That same principle has traditionally been true of judges. Sotomayor’s words indicate that she may lack that wariness. Even worse, liberals appear to be applauding her for it and consider such a lack not only inevitable but desirable.






Very thoughtful discussion by Neo-NeoCon. The comparison of judge and psycho-analyst is particularly insightful, but I wonder: isn’t the latter, at least in the view of certain schools, supposed to be empathic? Perhaps the comparison, while useful, has its limits. Or perhaps Obama’s understanding of empathy is quite different from the clinical definition.
Even if, as some people say, this is a battle we can’t win, we must press our GOP senators (I, sadly, have none) to expose this woman for what she is. They need to do it in a way that will leave the stink coming from her, not them, which means that she must be challenged on her words and her record, and held against the judge’s oath of office, to do equal justice to rich or poor, according to the law.
If the GOP shows some backbone and does it well, she will be another tainted nominee. And maybe some of the Dems will abandon her as well. If not, she will be given thirty years or more to shred the Constitution and we will be in greater need than ever for the various Federalism Amendments.
“cerebral” is pointless with leftists, they miss the basic element
“If the GOP shows some backbone and does it well, she will be another tainted nominee.”
Sonia Sotomayor should be easy to defeat. The majority of Americans are against racial preferences. Even voters of the very left-wing state of Michigan resoundingly rejected them. Ironically, the Republican establishment was on the wrong side of the argument. It supported the racial preferences ballot proposal! We merely need to calmly and clearly explain why we oppose Judge Sotomayer. Those who attempt to slander us with the charge of racism will not win this fight. The odds are against them.
Human beings are flesh and blood creatures and naturally inclined toward embracing identity politics. In other words, we are sinners. We must therefore conquer our innate instincts. Sotomayer apparently has zilch interest in doing so. Identity politics is to be celebrated and not shunned. Western Civilization has no chance of surviving unless we keep legal thinkers like her off the bench.
The Repugs will oppose anything minimally off their super-narrow criteria. There is no gain in engaging in a discussion. Smears, distractions, exaggerations, bias, ulcers.
Interesting too that Clarence Thomas’ brush with black (skin color) radicalism made him angry and resentful, and he prayed to be delivered from it, and did not use it as a vehicle for self-promotion and advancement. (I may not be recalling the specifics correctly; it’s been months since reading My Grandfather’s Son.) here.
“Our Lady of Guadalupe”, wise Latina woman, since 1531.
What a bunch a baloney! A Spic in the Supreme Court. Now we have a Jew-Woman, a Black, 2 Guineas, and an Irish…what’s next? May be Ophra Winfrey, or no, no, Ellen DeGeneres, so to have a gay representative. What about a raghead from Illinois?
This week, I’ve heard and read many Republican and/or conservative commentators who urge that she “must be exposed for what she is”.
What is the actual intent of such language?
Based on her own statements, her rate of rulings overturned, the observations of her peers, isn’t it obvious what she is?
I’m beginning to wonder if this conversation about “what she is” is simply an outlet for the national anxiety and building anger that Soetero apparently cannot be stopped because those in office who could stop him don’t have the political will to do it.
Actually, I guess it’s preferable that that’s all that’s going on.(*) I’d rather not believe that such a high percentage of conservatives/common sense people actually don’t “know what she is”.
(*Ok. THAT’s weird. In terms of colloquial speech, we do it all the time–but who’da thunk that the word “that” could be used three times in one short sentence?)
Susan,
I think the kind of empathy that is useful in a therapist is quite different from the Obama kind. A therapist needs to be able to get beneath the superficial problems of a patient and relate them to the underlying needs and problems of all humans. Once the patient has gotten closer to seeing what the basic problem is, he can move forward on a firmer foundation. The Obama empathy is all about externals: poverty, race, sex. It actually hurts people because it piles a lot of junk on them that blocks the view of who they really are, what they really need, and what they really want. So as the judge must go back to the basics of the law, the good therapist must help a patient get back to their basic psychological needs and learn how to meet them. Both are involved in clearing away the type of junk Obama peddles.
Not being a lawyer, my view of the law is limited, but it seems to me that cases should be decided on what the law says, and not emotion for the little guy who may loose because the law says something else. Occasionally, you hear about decisions where the judge says the law says X, but this is a case of bad law and the legislature should consider rewriting, amending, etc, whatever is necessary to make the law better but that is rare. Instead we get judges who legislate from the bench. Even at this early point in time, it appears that Judge Sotomayor is hostile to the 2nd Amendment, and also believes that all jobs should be filed with races that represent the local population distribution regardless of their actual knowledge.
Somewhere in her legal training, she has forgotten that tests are designed to discriminate between those who possess certain pieces of knowledge and those who do not. The fact that a certain ethnic group does not do as well on a test could also indicate that maybe they did not have the necessary knowledge and maybe they did not study hard enough. Just because one group of people do not do as well as another group could have many different answers. It is obvious that she focused on race balance and looked no further.
If we apply Judge Sotomayor’s logic to the world of professional sports, we would have to limit the number of African Americans on various to teams to ~ 12 %. After all that is the racial distribution. This is not done because people want to see a team of good players, not mediocre players picked on a racial distribution. At the same time, I hope the police and firefighters that I rely on are also the best and not picked on racial quotas.
Judge Sotomayor may have a very interesting background and compelling life story, but as an impartial judge, she is a failure !!!!
Liberals hate it when ethnically gendered people
don’t fit their stereotypes.
Rancor and screechings and shouts of Uncle Tom (or Auntie Tomasina) are dumped on people of coloUr who don’t fit into the accepted liberal mode of lockstep thinking, e.g., Clarence Thomas, Condi Rice, Miguel Estrada. “They” tried to get Tiger Woods to sign on to the agenda (it’s a requirement, you know, if there’s any melanin at all in your skin) and Tiger politely and wisely declined.
Attributed to (lawyer) Andrew McCarthy, the observation that Sotomayor’s prejudicial stance apparent in her wise Latina remark would disqualify her from sitting on a jury in a simple civil case, let alone holding a lifelong position on the country’s highest court.
Elsewhere, Sotomayor has questioned whether achieving impartiality “is possible in all, or even, in most, cases. And I wonder whether by ignoring our differences as women or men of color we do a disservice both to the law and society.”
If anyone’s still interested in original Constitutional principles, read some of the Federalist papers on the function and role of an independent judiciary.
Seems a slam dunk that Sotomayor’s views & values alone disqualify her for the Supreme Court.
Yes,Barak Obama has nominated a Supreme Court therapist. They are supposed to be justices.
Remember,the name is Obama-Sotomayor. Each thing she does,each thing she says,each vote she casts on the Supreme Court,her name is Obama-Sotomayor,Obama-Sotomayor,Obama-Soto…
Guess what, the old way – privilege politics that gave us dynasty rule and crony power – wasn’t uniformly good or righteous or just. The new way – identity politics – isn’t either. But that doesn’t matter, because the the old way is going away and the new way is coming our way. No way around it.
And you just can’t stand the thought of losing privilege. It gnaws at you. Suddenly the concept of having unfettered access to opportunity is becoming available to everyone. Now it is you who will say, “But I’m right! I’m good! I’m smart! I’m qualified! I can do this!” . . . We know you can, honey, but it’s not going to happen for you, not this time, not right now.
It’s only fair.
‘Empathy’ is just a word being used to cover political machination.
The Senate GOP will act like a bunch of spineless, timid politicians, with maybe the exception of DeMint and Roberts, and on que they will confirm this unqualified racist judge to the highest court in the land to help further along the demise of America. I have to say, Obama is wrecking this nation at breakneck speed. It’s too bad the American people are mostly American Idol brained idiots.
Reverse racism. √
Reverse sexism. √
Or is it really ‘reverse’? Perhaps, just perhaps, it was always there.
Until people realize and understand that ANYONE from ANY ethnicity can be a bigot/racist then we are truly lost.
There is a whole Hispanic community who believes in breeding whitey out.
Many blacks are Jew and Mexican haters.
Many Mexicans are Jew, Black and even ‘Rican’ haters (they believe many ‘Ricans’ are part black).
To say that ALL ethnic groups are racist to some extent is an understatement.
Only, we allow the minority ethnic groups to be bigots because they are not white. How convenient.
The trouble starts with believing judges are to dispense justice. Except in those instances in the lowest courts where judges impose sentences, in which case they are expected to determine what sentence is just, and are allowed and even expected to take special circumstances into account, judges’ role is to apply (interpret) the law, not to dispense justice. Particularly in the case of the higher courts the role of judges is only to interpret the law. (And this being the case, of _course_ their interpretation should consider the intentions of those who wrote and passed the law.) Empathy should not be part of any decision made by higher courts, nor should it be part of lowest courts in determining guilt or innocence in criminal trials, or fault in civil trials.
“The Senate GOP will act like a bunch of spineless, timid politicians”
The Republican establishment believes that Hispanics are immature children and unable to rationally discuss the issues of the day. It stupidly believes that radical activists speak for all the Spanish speaking people of the United States. I’m convinced that most Hispanics are against racial preferences—and will not consider it racist to oppose Sonia Sotomayor. The odds are truly on our side in stopping her. The current polls also seem to agree with me.
I used to know a federal judge whose parents came from Mexico. My father’s attorney in Tucson was Mexican. His father, who was from Mexico, ran a bar and general store in one of the mining towns in the mountains. Fred went to the University of Arizona and got his law degree and then practiced in Tucson. He was a really nice guy. One friend of his, Joe Gonzales, was the Chief Clerk of the Senate Appropriations Committee. Another of his friends, Mo Udall, was a U.S. Congressman and ran for U.S. President. Both of them were great guys, interesting, and great to talk to.
His family and mine went fishing together in Guaymas, Mexico, in the Gulf of California. His son and I knew each other pretty well. And I don’t think the fact that one of his son’s grandfathers came from Mexico, one from California, and one of mine came from Poland, one from Canada, ever lead us to believe that we were physically, socially, or neurologically different from one another.
Both my father and Fred were Democrats, but I am convinced that they would view the ethnic Balkanization and ranting and raving as a complete betrayal of everything they thought about politics and about people and how they ought to get along.
This choice, like every other choice made by Obama since January 20th is a reflection on one thing: his extremely poor Judgment. Has he done anything right the first time?
If people must cling to their ethnic identities with such fierceness that they refuse to strive to realize the ideal of equal justice under the law, what’s the point of having “one nation?” Why not devolve into separate enclaves wherein like can cozy up to like and not have to strain to treat their fellow citizens merely as citizens?
There will never be empathy between the different ethnic groups or classes, and heaven knows we can’t have a country without empathy, can we now?
21. Noesis Noeseos,
Empathy for a few but, not for YOU.
Get it?
Good.
And thine Democrat/Marxist/Socialist/Communist/Thuggery will be done.
…I am convinced that they would view the ethnic Balkanization and ranting and raving as a complete betrayal of everything they thought about politics and about people and how they ought to get along.
The same is true in my perspective, each individual is responded to as a function of the content of their character, trustworthiness etc. as opposed to superficial characteristics we call race, ethnicity, gender et al.
I would maintain there’s a deeper agenda in the emphasis on identity politics and class warfare we’re seeing in these times and from this administration and that focusing on & exaggerating differences among people is central to the agenda of dismantling democracy & capitalism, as we know them.
It certainly is central to the ideological agendas of many of Barack Obama’s influences, past & present, e.g. Frank Marshall Davis (communist leanings) Rev. JWright (black liberation theology), Billy Ayers (overthrow of bourgeois society) Louis Farrakhan (muslim brotherhood).
“The Repugs will oppose anything minimally off their super-narrow criteria. There is no gain in engaging in a discussion. Smears, distractions, exaggerations, bias, ulcers.”
stupid vivo, you are talking about your heroes democraps here aren’t you?
after all what did they do with miguel estrada, those racists of yours?
vb, thanks for the dissertion, but leftists are plain retards, look at our own vivo as example, it is probably the amount of drugs their parents did in the 60s or the emotional distress of being son of leftists in the first place
Susan,
I guess what I was trying to say is that what Obama calls empathy is phony and superficial, attributes that I would also apply to the lefties. I saw a partial transcript of an exchange between Hugh Hewit and Larry O’Donnell. Hewitt asked O’Donnell how many books he had read on terrorism, Islam, and the Middle East. Answer: None. Those types don’t get any respect from me.
you see, in this hypocritical world, one person can claim himself better than the others according to some factors.
One factor can be wealth and there aren’t many wealthy people
another one is intelligence and as above there aren’t many, plus it’s harder to prove, it’s not a degree that proves intelligence especially nowadays
another one is beauty and regardless of cosmetic surgery, not everybody can be beautiful
but there is one thing that sounds “reachable” to anybody and it is appearing “good”, that is easy (by words), costs nothing and is highly rewarding.
the person that appears “good” wether because he profusely apologises over nothing (the apology tour) or because he seems to care about the next guy (I am my brother’s keeper, I am the defender of minorities and oppressed groups, i listen to opposition) by definition claims the moral higher ground.
I have seen this little game from leftists millions of times. People who normally would leave you dying on a street if nobody is watching, but they come to talk about this charity for the children of dfhoswnfuhan (usually places they wouldn’t be able to point on a map) and how you are so nasty because you dare to spend money for yourself forgetting that the west is wealthy because we used to steal to the 3rd world for 4 millennia (and similar clap trap).
So the problem with their mental disease is that deprived of any redeeming quality they enhance themselves with apparent “goodness”, because their basic point must be always is I am holier than you.
It’s not like the say “I think, therefore I am”, with them it’s “I am better than you, therefore I am”, they live in the constant desperate attempt to prove something in relationship with someone else.
When they usually fail to prove they are better, they start becoming envious of whatever feature of the other.
Are you wealthier than me? let’s ban wealth
Are you more intelligent than me? let’s create laws to prevent you getting more opportunity because of your intelligence
Are you more beautiful than me? let’s create a society where we have to dress poorly all alike (look at communist societies, ask anybody who lived under communism)
You have to pity them, they are total zeros in real life, they always need a comparison to exist.
VIVO#5 and sheesh’12(13?)
ARE RACISTS!
Racism is BAAAAAAAAAD!!!!!!!!!!! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACISM!!!!!
(am I getting the Leftist meme right, you morons?!?)
“vivo” and “sheesh” must be condemned and eradicated!!!
four hooves good! two legs bad!
EVIL VIVO and SHEESH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
vivo:
Fidelista, descarao…comecandela…
Hey man, what’s wrong with you pally? Are you a sadist or somepin’? You must disagree with all them people all the time. I suspect you have an anal complex, if ya know what I mean.
To vb,
Thank you very much for your thoughtful responses to my post (#1), and I agree with you. “Empathy” in the Obama ledger seems to be a purely political construct, with selective application (only those who share his exact word view are worthy of it. One could even say that for these people empathy is even mandatory). Obama says that words must have meaning, then proceeds to divest them of any, redefining at will.
Btw, I noticed that “susan” (small s) responds to you in post #25 thinking that you are lecturing HER!!! Woops! Then you respond to her in #26, thinking you are responding to ME. Kind of funny, all this confusion, actually. Communication is never easy!
This is my only post, in addition to post#1.
I will keep the capital S after my name to disambiguate.
I appreciate the dialogue, vb
[The nomination of Sonia Sotomayor is, in some ways, just a continuation of this trend. She would be the third woman to have served on the Court and the first Hispanic]
This is what I resent, bunching up many different people under the “Hispanic” category. Why not keep her as an American, period? Everyone here have some ancestry. This is the tactics of the new Census-fascist, that wanted to control the Census and shunt the Republicans for ever, then we will have a SanFranciscoaazation of the country, open cities, drugs and needles in public parks, Pelosi-crazy politicians.
Why do I have to be bunched up with, let’s say, them Mexicans, I don’t look like them, I don’t talk like them, I even don’t like Tacos. People of Mex, Puerto R, Cuban, bla, bla, bla, ancestry…BS.
Anyhow, this Yew o Rican fat lady scares the wits out of me. Somepin’ not right with her face.
Why does everyone in the media keep pronouncing this womans name like they’re broadcasting from downtown Caracas or something? (SO TO MAI OR)
We do still speak English in this country, yes?
Oh, Delia (22), I’ve long ago given up expecting genuine empathy from the sinister zones of the political spectrum. I was, however, raised with the quaint notion that justice should be no respecter of persons. Of course, that was before the Days of Rage.
A couple of points: Obama picked Sotomayor for at least two reasons. 1: If any Republicans attempt to stop the nomination, the left can screech that the only reason for resisting is racism. 2: Sheer political pandering to the Hispanic minority. He figures that they should get paid back for voting for him. So, he played “Pick a Spic.”
Is she qualified? Through her life story, education, and her accomplishments, yes. But judges are supposed to demonstrate good judgement. In this instance, she fails on at least two counts. 1: The incendiary speech she gave at Berkeley. It was blatant racism and sexism. 2: She demonstrated extremely poor judgement in the Ricci case. She sided in that case with some ill-conceived form of racial quotas regardless of the results of a promotion test. Thus, white firefighters were discriminated against solely because of their race (and the fact that no black firefighters had the ability to pass the test). Both instances show a marked lack of objective application of the law. Catastrophic fail!
Obama said he wanted justices with empathy. He’s going to get one!
Could a better choice have been made? Sure, but that wouldn’t have been in agreement with his basic philosophy concerning application of the law. Empathy in judges=bad!
regards
27. susan,
You are too sober of mind and logical of thought.
No soup for you!
So the liberals posting here are in favor of a judge basing decisions on ethnicity and not the rule of law? Very telling. Yet more proof liberals are devoid of braincells.
Nice to know that the group who voted for our TOTUS are so willing to disregard the Constitution.
…and then it spoke…mercilessly raining stupidity on the unsuspecting :
“Guess what, the old way – privilege politics that gave us dynasty rule and crony power – wasn’t uniformly good or righteous or just. The new way – identity politics – isn’t either.”
so it goes from cronyism to indentity-cronyism.
“But that doesn’t matter, because the the old way is going away and the new way is coming our way. No way around it”
there is this whole group of people refered to as “the invester class”,loosely comprised of millions.you know the ones who make most of the money,pay all of the taxes and create the vast majority of jobs.
they just might find a ‘way around it’.
“And you just can’t stand the thought of losing privilege.”
is not having privilege mean competing on a level playing field or,are you one of these types?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_race_theory
ah…who am i kidding..that’s you all the way.
turned on the radio and heard our revered prez speaking (again) and realized he was nominating a Supreme Court Justice. The first warning alarm was when he said something about “no matter who you are, what you look like…” so I wondered what did she look like, must be a troll. But the next alarm was when he was pushing for a fast confirmation. He was practically ordering that this nominee be confirmed and be confirmed immediately. Big clang clang alarm to me.
Then she spoke and told her compelling story, and mentioned her brother’s wife and children’s names. How can she be a racist when his kids’ names are Kylie, Conner and Cory, married to a Kelly or some Celtic name like that?
But Supreme Court justices are to interpret the law and the Constitution, and not to allow their own compelling story to get in the way of that interpretaion. My son said that the justices should be apthetic and cold-blooded so as to not allow their “feelings” to get in the way and impair that interpretation.
I teach children how to conduct peer mediation. Early on, they learn that mediation (which is non-adversarial, is not the same as negotiating or decision making by a judge or jury, but instead asks the disputing parties to offer solutions to their own conflict and then choose and implement the best choices agreed upon by both parties) requires that they as mediators maintain unbiased impartiality, and that they not align themselves with either disputant; if they show partiality, the process breaks down immediately. If they are successful in keeping their feelings or biases out of the process, children or anyone, for that matter, can mediate disputes between their best friends, their worst enemies, people of any age, gender, race, etc. While mediation clearly is not what is expected of a Supreme Court justice (in fact, mediation is more closely allied with some therapeutic processes), the tasks involved for both a child mediator and a Supreme Court justice–conflict resolution and judicial decision making–are best served when people are treated equally, without biases, and when justice is dispensed it is done so blindly. If the kids get it, why can’t the grown-ups?
24. susan:
“after all what did they do with miguel estrada, those racists of yours?”
I have no idea who M. Estrada is/was.
We ALL are racists and hypocrites dear Susan, oops, susan. See 7. MiamaMan (
)
See 16. Delia.
21. Noesis Noeseos:
“what’s the point of having “one nation?” ”
we have 50 States. That’s 50 nations. Ask the Texans or Oregonians, and keep asking . . .
25. susan:
“it is probably the amount of drugs their parents did in the 60s or the emotional distress of being son of leftists in the first place”
Your ignorance and bias REALLY made me laugh this time!
You should consider stand-up comedy. You sound like the Wanda Sykes of the conservs. I’ll pay to hear you.
28. Ed Wallis:
VIVO#5 and sheesh
ARE RACISTS!
Dear Ed: I didn’t see ANYTHING racist on my #5, but you can call me that because I said before that we ALL are racists an hypocrites, just be a little honest Wallito.
29. MiamaMan:
How’s your ulcer?
32. whataloadacrap08:
“Why does everyone in the media keep pronouncing this womans name like they’re broadcasting from downtown Caracas or something? (SO TO MAI OR)
We do still speak English in this country, yes?”
You have won the Imbecile Award of the Day.
How do you suggest this name be pronounced?
Sah-tah-máh-yah? Can’t roll your R’s? Xenophobe? How do you pronounce Sacramento? Sah-crah-men-toh? or Sah-crah-meh-nah?
“I have no idea who M. Estrada is/was.” vivo
thanks for playing, retard, we knew it already, your outstanding performance in this blog is always predictable. you know close to nothing, yet, you dare to voice your stupidity.
“We ALL are racists and hypocrites ”
you forgot mentally challenged, which is clear by reading your posts
“Your ignorance and bias REALLY made me laugh this time!
You should consider stand-up comedy. You sound like the Wanda Sykes of the conservs. I’ll pay to hear you.”
so you don’t even try to deny it? you’re the fruit of copious amount of acid? or you’ve beed dropped in some horphanage?
Ignorance and bias? can you deny that all the hippies that were doing drugs in the 60s are leftists? and you are a subpar product of that mentality?
Want to deny that the sea is wet?
vivo:
Maricon, Che Guevara-lover, caraetabla…
Hey, what’s racist about my post 7?
“What a bunch a baloney! A Spic in the Supreme Court. Now we have a Jew-Woman, a Black, 2 Guineas, and an Irish…what’s next? May be Ophra Winfrey, or no, no, Ellen DeGeneres, so to have a gay representative. What about a raghead from Illinois?”
I now what is racist about this…I forgot to call for a Chink from Kalifornia, OK, I got you?
Re 40. Perhaps before the Civil War–or the War Between the States–we had numerous “nations,” but not since the 14th Amendment began to be interpreted expansively and the 10th began to be ignored.
Nothing Sotomayor has said implies that white males and latinas cannot be equally effective jurists. There is little reason to doubt that a diverse judiciary will do a better job than one composed of homogenous white males.
The right to face a jury of one’s peers is part of our Constitutional heritage. Recruiting a diverse panel of distinguished experts in the law is a wise and noble goal, and in keeping with our ideals.
There is nothing in the record to suggest that Sotomayor will not be a better judge than the two who precede her. Maybe we should take her at her word. Wouldn’t it be odd if she hoped to do a worse job than a white male? I’m glad that she aspires to be a better jurist than her peers.
An impartial legal system must recognize that humans are flawed creatures, and often blind to their own failings. Whether race or gender should be a factor in our decisions, it undoubtedly plays a role in how each of us views the world, and therefore will be a factor. Alito addressed this in his confirmation, and Sotomayor will do no less.
Ultimately there are two reasons to fight her nomination: partisanship and bigotry. Take your pick.
Peace.
DS
Ultimately there are two reasons to fight her nomination: partisanship and bigotry. Take your pick.
Dear David S, aka peace guy…(oh, why am I doing this…:) )
These comments do not reflect qualities and thinking we should seek in a judge, and especially a jurist on the highest court in the land.
Caught herself, sort of…
This month, for example, a video surfaced of Judge Sotomayor asserting in 2005 that a “court of appeals is where policy is made.” She then immediately adds: “And I know — I know this is on tape, and I should never say that because we don’t make law. I know. O.K. I know. I’m not promoting it. I’m not advocating it. I’m — you know.”
Impartiality is for idiots…
Still, Judge Sotomayor questioned whether achieving impartiality “is possible in all, or even, in most, cases.” She added, “And I wonder whether by ignoring our differences as women or men of color we do a disservice both to the law and society.”
A Judge’s View of Judging Is on the Record
“This process is not just to show how open-minded we have become; it is also strategically designed to appeal to minorities and woo their votes.”
Who is we? Do you think Obama thought he was being open minded when he appointed Holder? Are you really this stupid?
The answer to my previous question:
If you’re acquiring your legal analysis from Twelve Angry Men, then stupid isn’t the word.
Because troll buttocks are gamey. But no, they’re not good for you. Spit it out. DNFTT.
The same voices so indignant here about identity politics are quite mum about Christian identity politics, and the murder that movement has recently claimed responsibility for. Randall Terry, a pretty mainstream character in the right wing view, is on record announcing his complete lack of concern over a hate-speech accelerated terrorist crime. What say you, oh brave defenders of fairness and democracy. Should we drum this Terry fellow out of the mainstream?
The Obama Administration is an open sewer,and Obama-Sotomayor and his other appointees and nominees are floating in it.
41. susan:
Ohhh . . . that ulcer must be burning and your fried brain spinning and spinning. I wouldn’t want to be in your . . .
42. MiamaMan:
Another head spinning, spinning, spinning. Ohhh, please stopppp. Ay, mamita, ya no puedo . . .
Notice to readers: these two freaks are going to be in trouble when the government’s mental health programs are cut off pretty soon.
vivo, i am not under the kingdom of zerobama, YOU ARE, so you should be the one afraid of mental health programs.
OH but you are a citizen of the world (that’s the liberal way of saying you are illegal in USA)
So you were really dropped in a dungeon by your parents? LOL, this is why you are so acid and envious of successful people.
Loosers like you behave like that.
And I repeat, you are going to have the racist latina in the court, not me.
Enjoy your racist administration.
Are you still glad that you voted for Teleprompter Barbie?
53. Paul -Indiana:
“Are you still glad that you voted for Teleprompter Barbie?”
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LMFAO! Hey, now! Let’s not insult Barbie…SHE is an ICON [and the bringer of many an eating disorder and body dysmorphia].
Sotomayor and La Raza
Excellent cases can be made both for confirmation of Appeals Court Judge Sonia Sotomayor to the United States Supreme Court and for filibustering her into submission and ultimate withdrawal such as the Democrat minority did to George W. Bush’s pick for the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, Judge Miguel Estrada.
It may be recalled that the eminently-qualified Estrada was eventually beaten down because of one serious flaw in his resume’. He was so abused that Estrada’s wife may have died shortly after as a consequence.
As with Sotomayor, he too had a compelling history and was a Hispanic nominee but unlike Sotomayor, he suffered from the terminal malady of unreconstructed conservativism and thus was totally unacceptable to fair-minded Senate liberals.
If they didn’t exactly “Bork” him, they trashed and distorted his record sufficiently to make the guy surrender in frustration. Estrada subsequently entered private practice.
Unlike Sotomayor, Estrada had no unseemly affiliations in his background, although some would allege that Sotomayor’s associations are quite seemly, especially that with La Raza.
This is all but moot anyway since Barack Obama’s choice to fill the shoes of David Souter is a shoo-in and, as I previously argued, it would be counterproductive and a waste of effort and ammunition to go after Sotomayor. See “Save the Ammo and Confirm Sonia,” http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=1034. Hence, any discussion of Sonia Sotomayor at this point is irrelevant.
What is worth further investigation, however, is La Raza, a group of which Sotomayor is a member and which proudly published her 2001 speech. In that lecture/speech she said in her infamously racist and stupid fashion, “I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experience would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn’t lived that life:” http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=99420.
The National Council of la Raza, the Race, en Ingles, the NCLR, lapped it up…
(Read the rest at http://genelalor.com)
52. susan:
You can get the idiot girl out of the nut house, but you can’t get the nut house out the idiot girl.
51. vivo:
Boricua estupido, enano mental!
My friend stop insulting everyone here, that is bad for your Karma.
57. MiamaMan:
Boricua estupido, enano mental!
My friend stop insulting everyone here, that is bad for your Karma.