How Would the Democrats’ Health Reform Change our Lives?
We are Americans. We can continue to lead the world in treatment and demonstrate a uniquely American approach to improving the business end of health care delivery. The approach should reward choice, competition, value, and the freedom for individuals and families to decide what is in their own best interest.
The evolution of health care should follow American ideals. Patients cannot be passive participants. The individual is in the best position to make the intimate decisions regarding their own or their loved ones’ care. Patients with knowledge and counsel provided by physicians of the options available should decide treatments.
The practice of medicine compels us to evaluate what works and what doesn’t. We continually innovate medical treatment. We can and should do the same things with how we pay for it. Our health care should belong to the individual, not an employer and not the government. It should be wholly transportable and personal. Life and auto policies can follow us anywhere. Health policies should be no different.
We should be able to purchase health insurance without borders in our nation. Government should facilitate and encourage the power of consumers to determine cost and benefit. Those who cannot afford to purchase coverage should be given the opportunity of a tax incentive to become a health care purchaser, not someone dependent on an entitlement.
America shocked the world over two centuries ago when it embarked on this noble journey and established the greatest country ever known. How fitting that we find ourselves presented with the opportunity to begin another “experiment” and once again lead the globe with an American solution to improving health care.
The thing that baffles me most is the Left’s willingness to give up personal freedom and privacy for cheaper insurance. The same people who fight tooth and nail for “reproductive rights” have no problem with the idea of mandatory flu shots, computerized health records, and some government hack telling their doctor what he’s allowed to do for them. It’s all wonderful so long as they save a few bucks.
I suppose the only thing that might give them pause is if this plan meant you had to be put on a waiting list for an abortion.
This reform will do nothing more then provide vast coverage for a massive swindle of wounded egos…while the small percentage of those truly in need gain nothing, if not lose a little more.
There won’t be a doctor shortage because the government will just import them from India and Pakistan. Remember the “doctors plot” in England last year? They all worked for the National Health Service and were all from Pakistan.
Recall that foreign medical graduates don’t have any educational debts to repay like students who matriculate through our medical education system. Average educational debt here is about $100-150K. The first place that cuts will be made will be in physician reimbursements. It won’t be economically feasible for Americans to go into the medical profession here.
Ronald Reagan had the right answer to health care!.
The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.
HEALTHCARE-EUTHANASIA BILL
This is much more than a health bill, it is a massive attack on our freedom. It is the CONQUEST of Americans by the U.S. Government. A Coup Where Government Would Even Have Access to Americans’ Bank Accounts.
WORLDNETDAILY.COM
July 31, 2009
Obamacare called
‘euthanasia bill’
Critic: ‘Reflects regime worse
than China’s one-child policy’
July 31, 2009
By Bob Unruh
The Democrats’ proposed national health insurance plan would dictate medications, treatments and mental health services; determine coverages individuals are allowed to have.
In the Liberty Counsel analysis, Staver notes that under Section 163, the government would be allowed to have real-time access to individuals’ finances, including direct access to bank accounts for electronic funds transfers.
Under Section 1308, the analysis finds, the government will dictate marriage and family therapy as well as mental health services, including the definitions of those treatments.
It also, according to Staver, “covers abortions, transsexual surgeries, encourages counseling as to how many children you should have, whether you should increase the interval between children.”
And as people age or get sicker, it includes mandatory “consultations” offering suggestions on how to end life sooner, he said.
“In the name of population control, Holdren has advocated both forced abortion and compulsory sterilization through government-administered tainting of the water supply. In a book he co-authored, entitled ‘Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment,’ Holdren calls for a ‘Planetary Regime’ to enforce mandatory abortions and limit the use of natural resources,” he wrote.
“Those 65 and older will be required to undergo mandatory ‘end of life’ counseling to determine if they are worthy to continue to not only live, but take much needed resources from those who are younger and more worthy to receive them. Counselors will be trained to discuss how to end life sooner, how to decline nutrition and hydration, how to go into hospice, etc.,” she said.
“This will not be done without coercion. For those who have amassed assets enough to take care of themselves in their old age will have these assets confiscated in the name of fiscal responsibility, because by this time, every citizen will be entered into a national database under the guise of improved efficiency. This database will be run by a type of ‘star chamber,’ appointed by the president, that will determine whether or not you deserve the much needed operation your personal doctor thinks you need,” she said.
…regulate whether seniors can have wheelchairs, penalize hospitals or doctors whose patients require “readmission,” prevent the expansion of hospitals…
Under Section 440, Liberty Counsel said, the government “will design and implement Home Visitation Program for families with young kids and families that expect children.” And Section 194 provides for a program that has the government “coming into your house and teaching/telling you how to parent,” LC said.
“One of the most shocking things is page 425, where the Congress would make it mandatory absolutely that every five years people in Medicare have a required counseling session,” she said. “They will tell [them] how to end their life sooner.”
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=105525
Obama’s Civilian National Security Force
Obama promised change. The End of America as we know it:
Obama: “We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y
PRAVDA: America’s Descent into Marxism – Brief Video
http://www.solutionsfromscience.com/
TOTALHEALTHBREAKTHROUGHS.COM
The Nightmare of GM Foods
by Melanie Segala 07/29/2009
“You have to know where your food is coming from.” These words of warning were spoken by biologist and plant expert, Arpad Puszati at a gathering of concerned citizens in St. Catherine’s, Ontario earlier this year.1
As far back as 1998, Dr. Puszati’s research at the Rowett Research Institute in Aberdeen, Scotland showed that genetically modified potatoes caused health problems in rats, including a weakened immune system and abnormal growth. For blowing the whistle on Big Agra, he was dismissed from his job.
Eleven years later, as companies like Monsanto successfully silenced their critics, genetically modified organisms have gained a stronghold in taking over the world’s food supply — in spite of the fact that a growing body of evidence shows the alarming health effects that are being seen in people and animals who are consuming GM foods. But unlike years ago, concerned physicians and scientists are now banding together and advising their patients and the general public to avoid GM foods altogether.
The latest professional group to voice their warnings is the American Academy of Environmental Medicine (AAEM) who is advising physicians to educate their patients and the medical community about the health risks of GM foods — including “infertility, immune problems, accelerated aging, insulin regulation, and changes in major organs and the gastrointestinal system.”2
Why are these medical professionals so sure that GM foods are to blame for the growing list of health problems? Because of the reason and method they were manufactured. GM corn and cotton for example, are produced with a built-in pesticide called Bt. When the insect bites the plant, the poison kills it. The problem is that the Bt toxin in GM plants is thousands of times more concentrated and toxic than the spray version — and it cannot be washed off — it’s part of the plant.
And as health professionals for the AAEM have pointed out, there are precious few human studies to document the safety of GM foods. The animal studies however, tell a frightening story.2 Here are just a few examples:
* When GM soy was fed to female rats, most of their babies died within three weeks—compared to a 10% death rate among the control group fed natural soy. When male rats were fed GM soy, their testicles turned from a natural pink to dark blue.
* In India when grazing animals fed on the remainder of harvested GM cotton plants, all of them died including thousands of sheep. Those that grazed on natural cotton plants remained healthy.
* In the US, farmers have reported that thousands of pigs became sterile after eating GM corn.
* In Germany, GM corn is thought to have caused the death of both cows and horses.
There is only one human study so far that demonstrates what GM foods might be doing to us — and it is chilling indeed. The modified gene that is inserted into GM soy transfers into the DNA of our intestinal bacteria and is still functional. This means our own gut flora could continue to produce the pesticide long after we have eaten the food — perhaps forever.2
Could GM foods be the cause of skyrocketing numbers of obesity, diabetes, autism, and even cancer? According to researchers, it may be, but we may never know for sure. The link to GM foods can’t be traced and the onset of the disease may take several years.
But that doesn’t mean we should take any chances, or wait for the results to come in. If Big Agra has its way, any damning evidence that links GM foods to chronic diseases will be stifled and the epidemic of immune and degenerative diseases will continue to rise.
What you can do is stay away from all processed food unless it clearly states on the package that it is organic or made from non-GMO ingredients. According to the Institute for Responsible Technology and the Center for Food Safety, you should also steer clear of soy or corn derivatives, cottonseed and canola oils, and GM sugar beets. These two organizations provide a downloadable Non-GMO Shopping Guide for consumers to refer to help with their food choices.
Let’s not be lab rats for the benefit of Big Agra. Together we can take a stand and just say no to the foods that are not fit for human or animal consumption.
References
1. Scientist Issues Genetic Food Warning, January 19, 2009, The St. Catherines Standard (Canada).
2. Doctors Warn: Avoid Genetically Modified Food,http://www.responsibletechnology.org/utility/showArticle/?objectID=2989.
http://www.totalhealthbreakthroughs.com/2009/07/gm-foods-a-real-killer/
Vaccinations: The Age of AUTISM
AGEOFAUTISM.COM
60 MINUTES, Sunday Nov 4, 1979
“SWINE FLU”
MIKE WALLACE: Remember the swine flu scare of 1976? That was the year the U.S. government told us all that swine flu could turn out to be a killer that could spread across the nation, and Washington decided that every man, woman and child in the nation should get a shot to prevent a nation-wide outbreak, a pandemic.
Well 46 million of us obediently took the shot, and now 4,000 Americans are claiming damages from Uncle Sam amounting to three and a half billion dollars because of what happened when they took that shot. By far the greatest number of the claims – two thirds of them are for neurological damage, or even death, allegedly triggered by the flu shot.
http://www.ageofautism.com/2009/04/1141979-60-minutes-episode-exposed-swine-flu-vaccine-injuries-lack-of-safety.html
Shocking TRUTH About VACCINES
The Truth About Vaccines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELx2eX_kM-w&feature=related
Vaccine Nation (Trailer)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUMZ-O-OsG0
A UNIVERSAL DECLARATION OF RESISTANCE TO MANDATORY VACCINATIONS
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/a-universal-declaration-of-resistance-to-mandatory-vaccinations
Health care costs may be out of control, but it is a cinch that the only thing government can really do to help is to shrink itself and get back to following our constitution. All of our freedoms are at stake and seem to be up for grabs with this administration.
The main change in our health care system is to be a public insurance option, IF YOU DECIDE to opt for it.
Medicare is a public option and we all know how Medicare destroyed our health care system, right?
Your article is utter nonsense.
Emma:
“The thing that baffles me most is the Left’s willingness to give up personal freedom and privacy for cheaper insurance.”
How does the government’s offering a public insurance plan that one can choose to buy or not to buy, (you can keep the insurance you have), translate to giving up personal freedom and privacy?
I guess you think Medicare participants have given up their freedom. Is that correct?
You anti health reform folks are delusional.
If congressional members don’t join this plan, should it become law, why should anyone else?
All citizens should be aware that ALL Federal employees at every level (not just Congressmen) are EXEMPT from this health care reform. Also, all UNION members. From this will follow all State, County and City employees who will do whatever it takes to get away from this managed care. The only saving grace is that all these liberals who think this is such a great idea will be sitting there in the waiting rooms in those long lines right alone with us. I can just hear their words…”Why weren’t we told??” Too damn late for that.
@jharp
Have you read the House Plan? Until you have, your comments have little validity, except for their “fan” value.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=111_cong_bills&docid=f:h3200ih.pdf
The document is 1,017 pages long, so sit back and grab a good cup of coffee. You’ll need it.
After the read, you may need a “barf bag”.
Stephen
My Canadian medical premium is $100/month (US) for a family of 5. That’s the top rate since I earn a good salary. If my income goes down, I pay less.
We don’t have any Pakistani doctors in the system. All medical people are trained here and licensed here. There’s no “shamans” or herbal quacks. My medical benefit doesn’t include homeopathic treatment, and I have to pay $10 extra (per visit) to see a chiropractor. I don’t mind that because chiropractors make you sign a waiver that you won’t sue them if you die after a treatment. Cosmetic surgery, sex changes (including vasectomies) are billed outside the basic service.
There may be waiting for surgery, but there’s priorities. Accident repair like car-crash or sports injuries is immediate treatment. Heart surgery or cancer surgery is almost immediate with maybe a 1 week wait. Hip replacements may wait for a few months. None of this causes any distress.
After graduation, new docs sometimes have to leave town to find a placement. This doesn’t trouble me a bit because, as a young engineer, I often had to leave town to find work.
Sometimes we have to get shipped to the US for treatment if we require something really exotic or rare like a face transplant, or if our system gets overloaded.
Mostly I have no complaints because I know that I, and my family, are always covered for treatment, even if I’m between jobs.
When you’ve got time, I’ll tell you about another great commie invention: government car insurance. Except for these two great ideas, I’m not a supporter of any leftist thinking. The rest of their ideas really, really suck.
Stephen Brady:
@jharp
“Have you read the House Plan? Until you have, your comments have little validity, except for their “fan” value.”
Yes, I have read the House Plan. And I support it wholeheartedly.
I am very much looking forward to it’s passage.
I’d be honored to be the first to sign up for the public plan and send them my check.
8. Linda Rivera,
YIKES. That’s some SCARY stuff! Thank you for sharing that info.
The GM foods is beyond creepy.
jharp is a troll.
“jharp is a troll.”
A very well fed one also, at least on this board.
I am a “mid-level provider”. I do OK under the present system. Not spectacularly well, but OK. I work 60-80 hours per week.
If this crap plan goes through, my salary, currently less than half of the physician I “extend”, will take a real nose-dive. It’s just simple arithmetic. More work, lower salary.
Tell you what — if this happens, I am changing professions, same as the physician I “extend”. So don’t call us, OK?
Brush up on your Farsi. Or hop on an inner tube and head over to the socialist utopia 90 miles off the coast of Florida where their medical care is free.
@jharp: Medicare is optional, not mandatory.
@Canadian person: if we go on your system, I guess you’ll all have to go somewhere else for the ‘exotic’ stuff. So you better hope you’re right about not needing us as a fallback for those less exotic things.
Allow me to paraphrase the third paragraph. “Long waits for specialists and treatments denied by a private sector bean counters because they are too expensive are commonplace. Acceptable care IS decided by a private sector bean counter panel and not by you and your physician.”
Those who oppose health care reform know their logic is collapsing like a house of cards because all the arguments they put up against reform are what we are dealing with right now. Whatever system we have there will be controls. But do not be mistaken. The private health insurance crime syndicate and their conservative GOP prostitutes could care less if you and your family drops dead. You see the private health insurance crime syndicate doesn’t care about your health they care about profit. Their only function is to take in more money in premiums than they pay out in claims. They answer to the shareholder not patients and doctors. This is a battle that WILL be won by those who really care about hard working American families. The losers will be those who enjoy lining their pockets with the suffering of others.
20. Jim
Be prepared to be called a liar by the Left. They seem to think two contradictory things about successful people: First, that we are solely motivated by money and thus the government has to reign us in for the “common good” and second, that we will, once “reigned in” and making less money, continue to work as hard as we did prior to our “reigning in”. How they square that circle in their minds is anyone’s guess.
They’ll also so, oh, no one stops working because of a 3% tax hike. No, they don’t, but, when you think about it, how much does the economy usually grow per year? Yep, about 3%. All high-earners need to do is cut back on work by about 3% and “poof” almost all economic growth is gone. Yeah, I know, in Lefty “bottom-up” economics it’s all those people at the bottom who make the economy grow, even though, also in Lefty world, “the rich get richer and the poor get poorer”, implying that the bottom actually experiences negative growth year over year, on average. Again, I’ll leave it to them to show how they square that circle. I guess we are about to get a first-hand look at testing that hypothesis in the real world.
It’s a whole different argument when “going Galt” doesn’t mean shutting down your business and moving to some canyon, but instead means not taking on that one extra customer or seeing that extra patient or two per week.
How does the Left think we got to the top of the income hierarchy? By being dumb? We weren’t all born with the last name Hilton.
BTW, if jharp is still around, he’ll be calling this post “preposterous drivel” shortly.
*Sigh*
The first thing most folks seem to miss about this public “option” insurance is that the first thing most companies that offer health insurance to their employees will do is dump it. Seriously if they’re already going to be paying huge increases in taxes why keep spending all the extra money on the employees? Dump the health and benefits plans to save where you can.
Oh sure, not every business will do it, but those that can sure as heck will. So there goes your first “option.”
Next a big issue to me is portability. I haven’t read the monster bill but has anyone noticed if anything OTHER than the public “option” will be portable? I.e. can I take any insurance with me from job to job? Can I buy private insurance from anywhere or are all the barriers currently in place still there? If these two things aren’t there this isn’t health care “reform” it’s just another health care “system.” One that will be overrun faster than you can say “Cash for Clunkers.”
Finally I would love one of the supporters of this bill to point out five government programs anywhere near this size that haven’t gone over their “estimated” cost. Seriously, has anyone ever heard of a government program that wasn’t horrendously over budget or full of waste? How can anyone honestly tell me this system will “reduce costs?”
Those who oppose health care reform know their logic is collapsing like a house of cards because all the arguments they put up against reform are what we are dealing with right now.
What about the right that you have now to sue your insurer for lack of adherence to the contract you sign with them? If that isn’t preserved (I haven’t seen one way or the other, but most of the time the government doesn’t allow you to sue them), that’s actually quite different from what “we are dealing with right now”.
Also, if the “public plan” isn’t going to make a profit, doesn’t that imply it will continually make a loss, which means taxes will continually rise to meet the public plan’s expenses? How does that not eventually bankrupt the country?
@jharp
“Have you read the House Plan? Until you have, your comments have little validity, except for their “fan” value.”
Yes, I have read the House Plan. And I support it wholeheartedly.
I am very much looking forward to it’s passage.
I’d be honored to be the first to sign up for the public plan and send them my check.
What is so funny is the BOZO Al FRanken will have a real plan and this effing moron wants Obamas plan… how can you argue with a RETARD?
AND that WORD IS IN THE PLAN!
venividivici I’d read the small print in your health insurance contract. Most likely you DON”T have the right to sue. You have the right to arbitration and in most cases the plaintiff loses. Were we to end up with a health care system like the one they have in Germany or France (the British and Canadian single payer systems are really second rate compared to Germany and France) arbitration would not be necessary too often. The World Health Organization rated the French system as superior to all others. Those who have the misfortune to be diagnosed with cancer in the French system, for instance, can get any drug that their physician recommends no matter how expensive it is or even if it is experimental. Here in the states the private sector bean counters would likely second guess your doctor in the hope that you would die in the interim in order to maximize profit to the shareholder.
As to your second point, I’m not sure where you learned economics but just because an organization is non-profit does not imply that it will operate at a loss. Hopefully, in the system that takes shape private insurers, in order to participate, will have to be non-profit. The fact is that would be too kind. These blood sucking leeches should be put out of business.
Those who oppose health care reform know their logic is collapsing like a house of cards because all the arguments they put up against reform are what we are dealing with right now.
Actually, it’s not at all inconsistent to argue that we will face exactly the same problems under ObamaCare that we face now, only that they will be worse and inescapable because the FedGov is (unconstitutionally) forcing each and every citizen into the flawed system.
What’s the single biggest problem with American health care? Doctors working for employers (via insurers) or the government, not for patients. This disconnect of accountability is the root cause of our problems, and if you read the house bill you’ll realize it makes this situation worse.
George Soros and the progressive democrats, whose messenger will not oblige to his constitutional obligation to prove that he is an American citizen and will say anything the teleprompter tells him to say, has created legislations such as the Stimulus Bill, the Equal Pay Bill, the Global Poverty Bill, the Tobacco Bill, the Climate Change Bill, the upcoming Health Reform Bill and the UN sponsored Bill that will force Americans to pay a global tax, will bring America to a $2 trillion dollars deficit and cause this country to self distrust.
Wake up America before it’s to late.
OK, guys, I won’t feed any trolls!
One of the most amazing things about Obamacare is its scope. Medicare and Medicaid are government-administered programs, and they have brought America to the point of bankruptcy. Now, he wants to put the whole nation on the public dole.
By the way, I’m 61, and there’s no way I’m going to let someone into my house to “counsel” me about “end of life” issues. My faith does not permit suicide …
Emma, the Left is all about freedom FROM responsibility… like a bunch of children that refuse to grow up. The Right (i.e., conservatives) find freedom IS responsibility (personal repsonsibility, in fact). Freedom is too onerous for the Left… they’d rather trade it for VA-quality government run healthcare that’s “free” because of all the taxes everyone (except them, if possible) will have to pay to get their abortions, drug treatment and penicilin shots for VD on demand whether they want them (to heck with those costly old people, devil take the frailest) because that’s “social justice” in action.
Wait … Wait … we have the solution here ….
Provide medical care ONLY if the patient brings in a Clunker.
See ?
1) Free Medical Care for All (well, All who still have a clunker).
2) No appropriation will be needed for the Clunker program.
So, we will need no new taxes for either Medical Care for All or for the Clunker program.
How many of you are willing to give up your Medicare coverage if you’re 65 and over? How many of you are willing to give up your Vet coverage if you’re veteran? These are the government sposored health plan!!!
Not change our lives,Mr. Curd,END our lives.The Ohole means to use rationing to get rid of as many elderly middle aged white people as he can,while taxing them to pay for benefits for the indigent,reliably democrat,minority vote. It’s nothing but anti-white genocide by bureaucracy.
great c-span video refuting benefits of obama care.
short intro but takes off from there.
http://www.c-spanarchives.org/library/vidLink.php?b=1249488153&e=1249492053&n=1
33. calagold:
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And why should they? These government health care programs work. As will universal health coverage. When I see the United States lagging behind Socialist countries in health care and life expectancy then something is not right here.