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		<title>By: cwnikkijamesw2</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-to-discuss-religion-without-appeasing-tyrants/#comment-1105347</link>
		<dc:creator>cwnikkijamesw2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 15:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent webpage by Rubye Marcoline</description>
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		<title>By: MarianneXX</title>
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		<dc:creator>MarianneXX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 21:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you have written here was wuite interesting.I&#039;ll check your posts more often. Great post. I wish I could write in such interesting way. :)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you have written here was wuite interesting.I&#8217;ll check your posts more often. Great post. I wish I could write in such interesting way. <img src='http://pjmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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		<title>By: Mary Madigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Madigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 14:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;So when a conservative politician says “A” and a politically opposed pundit says that the politician’s actions mean “B” instead, you wholeheartedly agree on principle..&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m not a Republican or a Democrat, so I evaluate any political claims about the &quot;the other side&#039;s&quot; motivations or actions with skepticism. 

&lt;I&gt;...Or is it only you who gets to be right? Do you have anything beyond repeated assertion here?&lt;/i&gt;

In this article, we have proof that the UN is not willing to support article 19 in their own Universal Declaration of Human Rights. 

To prove that the UN is also motivated by their need to fleece Americans, we can look at their response to the most horrific disaster of this century, the Tsunami. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nsnetwork.org/node/871&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Immediately after the disaster struck&lt;/a&gt;, &quot;15,000 troops, a carrier task force and a Marine expeditionary force deployed to the region, with the U.S. Navy effectively setting up a &quot;sea base&quot; off the coast of Indonesia. This flotilla of ships enabled supplies to be transported to the coastline, where ports and roads were all but washed away. As the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, Adm. Mike Mullen, commented, &quot;We literally built a city at sea for no other purpose than to serve the needs of other people.&quot; 
Only the U.S. military had the ability to conduct such an operation.&quot;

Across the Western world, individuals contributed more than $5 billion to the victims of the disaster. While they were contributing, and while the US military was saving lives, Jan Egeland,  U.N. humanitarian gave a press conference in New York City attacking the &quot;stinginess&quot; of wealthy nations.

I&#039;m sure he enjoyed an fine dinner and parked illegally (without being ticketed - diplomatic immunity) after his press conference, as UN matchstick men are wont to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So when a conservative politician says “A” and a politically opposed pundit says that the politician’s actions mean “B” instead, you wholeheartedly agree on principle..</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a Republican or a Democrat, so I evaluate any political claims about the &#8220;the other side&#8217;s&#8221; motivations or actions with skepticism. </p>
<p><i>&#8230;Or is it only you who gets to be right? Do you have anything beyond repeated assertion here?</i></p>
<p>In this article, we have proof that the UN is not willing to support article 19 in their own Universal Declaration of Human Rights. </p>
<p>To prove that the UN is also motivated by their need to fleece Americans, we can look at their response to the most horrific disaster of this century, the Tsunami. <a href="http://www.nsnetwork.org/node/871" rel="nofollow">Immediately after the disaster struck</a>, &#8220;15,000 troops, a carrier task force and a Marine expeditionary force deployed to the region, with the U.S. Navy effectively setting up a &#8220;sea base&#8221; off the coast of Indonesia. This flotilla of ships enabled supplies to be transported to the coastline, where ports and roads were all but washed away. As the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, Adm. Mike Mullen, commented, &#8220;We literally built a city at sea for no other purpose than to serve the needs of other people.&#8221;<br />
Only the U.S. military had the ability to conduct such an operation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Across the Western world, individuals contributed more than $5 billion to the victims of the disaster. While they were contributing, and while the US military was saving lives, Jan Egeland,  U.N. humanitarian gave a press conference in New York City attacking the &#8220;stinginess&#8221; of wealthy nations.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure he enjoyed an fine dinner and parked illegally (without being ticketed &#8211; diplomatic immunity) after his press conference, as UN matchstick men are wont to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Doubting David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doubting David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Mehmet Dervish:  Oh yes, you have the right to call whomever you wish a thief or a whore.  In the West, that is.  And despite the fact that your fellow Muslims are doing whatever they can to undermine our rights in order that you and your religion are not offended.  The exchange of ideas in the comments section shows graphically what a different set of values Muslims and Westerners have.  We should have no quarrel with the Muslim world enforcing censorship within its own borders.  In the West, however, we cannot allow it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Mehmet Dervish:  Oh yes, you have the right to call whomever you wish a thief or a whore.  In the West, that is.  And despite the fact that your fellow Muslims are doing whatever they can to undermine our rights in order that you and your religion are not offended.  The exchange of ideas in the comments section shows graphically what a different set of values Muslims and Westerners have.  We should have no quarrel with the Muslim world enforcing censorship within its own borders.  In the West, however, we cannot allow it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary Madigan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Madigan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 12:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;We moslems, though with highest respect and reverence for Jesus, do not believe that and we can in a civilised and intellectual level can argue about the principle. However, if in any Moslem country some moron said Jesus was just a son of a bitch, we would make sure that he would spend a considerable part of his life in jail.&lt;/i&gt;

The right to criticize any person, any religion, any leader and any idea is (supposedly) guaranteed by Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and recognized in international human rights law in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR). 

Which (if the UN stood for anything at all) would  mean that Danes have the right to make stick figure drawings and caricatures of any subject that they choose. You have the right to criticize their actions, you have the right to complain, but you and your legal institutions should not have the right to put people in jail for doing this.

Muslim law is based one simple principle - the Muslim man is superior to all other men, to all women and to all forms of life in the universe. Therefore, Muslim men tend to support sharia laws. 

But sharia laws also prevent free expression, because if anyone was allowed to speak their minds, they would have to point out that Muslim men are not superior beings, which would destroy the entire foundation of these laws. 

Unfortunately, free dialogue (prohibited by Sharia) leads to innovation and technological progress. You can&#039;t wage war or succeed economically without free thought, innovation and technological progress. So, in the end, Sharia laws guarantee that Muslim men, in their effort to enforce their belief in their inherent superiority, will always be ten steps behind everyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>We moslems, though with highest respect and reverence for Jesus, do not believe that and we can in a civilised and intellectual level can argue about the principle. However, if in any Moslem country some moron said Jesus was just a son of a bitch, we would make sure that he would spend a considerable part of his life in jail.</i></p>
<p>The right to criticize any person, any religion, any leader and any idea is (supposedly) guaranteed by Article 19 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and recognized in international human rights law in the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR). </p>
<p>Which (if the UN stood for anything at all) would  mean that Danes have the right to make stick figure drawings and caricatures of any subject that they choose. You have the right to criticize their actions, you have the right to complain, but you and your legal institutions should not have the right to put people in jail for doing this.</p>
<p>Muslim law is based one simple principle &#8211; the Muslim man is superior to all other men, to all women and to all forms of life in the universe. Therefore, Muslim men tend to support sharia laws. </p>
<p>But sharia laws also prevent free expression, because if anyone was allowed to speak their minds, they would have to point out that Muslim men are not superior beings, which would destroy the entire foundation of these laws. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, free dialogue (prohibited by Sharia) leads to innovation and technological progress. You can&#8217;t wage war or succeed economically without free thought, innovation and technological progress. So, in the end, Sharia laws guarantee that Muslim men, in their effort to enforce their belief in their inherent superiority, will always be ten steps behind everyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Leatherneck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leatherneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 11:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess some are not following Mohamed then. Your slander for Christianity precedes you trueamerican. If indeed you are a true American, and not a moon god worshiping apologist, or a secular humanist idiot.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess some are not following Mohamed then. Your slander for Christianity precedes you trueamerican. If indeed you are a true American, and not a moon god worshiping apologist, or a secular humanist idiot.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: trueamerican</title>
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		<dc:creator>trueamerican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you people scare me.  what a bunch of intolerent frightened people.  i have many arab and muslim friends.......most are some of the nicest people in the world.  you really think christianity is any better??  how many gays are denied basic rights in the name of jesus?  how many born-again bible thumpers have had books removed from our libraries?  how many jesus freaks have pushed their views on our country to roll back the advances of science in teaching their silly creationist nonsense?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you people scare me.  what a bunch of intolerent frightened people.  i have many arab and muslim friends&#8230;&#8230;.most are some of the nicest people in the world.  you really think christianity is any better??  how many gays are denied basic rights in the name of jesus?  how many born-again bible thumpers have had books removed from our libraries?  how many jesus freaks have pushed their views on our country to roll back the advances of science in teaching their silly creationist nonsense?</p>
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		<title>By: Leatherneck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leatherneck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It gave you moon god worshipers the right to yell back in the oven to Jews who defended themselves after three years of Rockets from Hamas.

How many Christians are left where Hamas rules? Christians in Egypt get attacked by the religion of peace. Sudan. Etc...

Those are but a few examples of your fairness Mehmet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It gave you moon god worshipers the right to yell back in the oven to Jews who defended themselves after three years of Rockets from Hamas.</p>
<p>How many Christians are left where Hamas rules? Christians in Egypt get attacked by the religion of peace. Sudan. Etc&#8230;</p>
<p>Those are but a few examples of your fairness Mehmet.</p>
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		<title>By: Mehmet Dervish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mehmet Dervish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it absolutely shocking that civilised and seemingly educated individuals from the west can actually defend something totally unethical, tasteless, and ugly in the name of Freedom of Speech.  Recently Turkey objected to the choice of Anders Fogh Rasmussen as the new General Secretary of NATO.

The issue was about the so-called Danish cartoons.

Christians, almost all sects, do believe that Jesus is the Son God.  We moslems, though with highest respect and reverence for Jesus, do not believe that and we can in a civilised and intellectual level can argue about the principle.  However, if in any Moslem country some moron said Jesus was just a son of a bitch, we would make sure that he would spend a considerable part of his life in jail.  Worst still in some of the very conservative Moslem countries could even mean a death sentence.  One does not insult beliefs of other people.  I have the right to criticise any political idealogy, religious dogma,  but that does not give me the right to insult values that other people hold dear.  Imagine what would happen if I shouted that ugly statement in St.Peters Square on a Sunday morning or in a small US town in the Bible belt.

So please cut the crap and be fair.  Freedom of Speech does not give me the right to call anyone a thief, a whore or whatever.  So why should that Danish son of bitch have the right to insult what I believe in.

Regards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it absolutely shocking that civilised and seemingly educated individuals from the west can actually defend something totally unethical, tasteless, and ugly in the name of Freedom of Speech.  Recently Turkey objected to the choice of Anders Fogh Rasmussen as the new General Secretary of NATO.</p>
<p>The issue was about the so-called Danish cartoons.</p>
<p>Christians, almost all sects, do believe that Jesus is the Son God.  We moslems, though with highest respect and reverence for Jesus, do not believe that and we can in a civilised and intellectual level can argue about the principle.  However, if in any Moslem country some moron said Jesus was just a son of a bitch, we would make sure that he would spend a considerable part of his life in jail.  Worst still in some of the very conservative Moslem countries could even mean a death sentence.  One does not insult beliefs of other people.  I have the right to criticise any political idealogy, religious dogma,  but that does not give me the right to insult values that other people hold dear.  Imagine what would happen if I shouted that ugly statement in St.Peters Square on a Sunday morning or in a small US town in the Bible belt.</p>
<p>So please cut the crap and be fair.  Freedom of Speech does not give me the right to call anyone a thief, a whore or whatever.  So why should that Danish son of bitch have the right to insult what I believe in.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Couple of years ago we had two preachers who said something about Islam..(forget what now) anyway, whatever it was it caused the congregation to laugh....they were reported and the lefties had a ball making an example of them...it ended up costing them around $200,000 fighting it in court and narrowly escaped going to jail..over here in Australia we have the same PC problems...it&#039;s Australia no more, too many of these a..holes coming here demanding we change our ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Couple of years ago we had two preachers who said something about Islam..(forget what now) anyway, whatever it was it caused the congregation to laugh&#8230;.they were reported and the lefties had a ball making an example of them&#8230;it ended up costing them around $200,000 fighting it in court and narrowly escaped going to jail..over here in Australia we have the same PC problems&#8230;it&#8217;s Australia no more, too many of these a..holes coming here demanding we change our ways.</p>
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