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		<title>By: Pappadave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pappadave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, Jack.  All Americans are NOT &quot;equal.&quot;  They all have equal opportunity, but to suggest that they are &quot;equal&quot; in talents, abilities, intellects, strengths, weaknesses or ambitions is to simply deny reality--which may be the hallmark of liberalism...denial of reality and human nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, Jack.  All Americans are NOT &#8220;equal.&#8221;  They all have equal opportunity, but to suggest that they are &#8220;equal&#8221; in talents, abilities, intellects, strengths, weaknesses or ambitions is to simply deny reality&#8211;which may be the hallmark of liberalism&#8230;denial of reality and human nature.</p>
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		<title>By: Pappadave</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-the-gop-can-court-black-voters/#comment-174114</link>
		<dc:creator>Pappadave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Jack (Post 18.)
That may be the most ill-informed post I&#039;ve ever read anywhere on the internet.  Your perception of conservatives in general and Republican conservatives in particular, is so dead wrong that it&#039;s scary anyone would have the temerity to post it anywhere--much less here.  It was a Republican President who freed the black slaves.  It was a CONSERVATIVE who integrated the American military. Admittedly, he was a Democrat at that time, but he would NOT be welcomed into the Democrat Party of today.  It was a Republican administration who filed &quot;friend of the court briefs&quot; in support of the eventual desegregation of the public schools by the USSC in the Brown vs. Board of Education decision.  It was REPUBLICAN votes which insured the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voters Rights Act, without which the two bills would have been defeated by a MAJORITY Democrat Congress.  LBJ even THANKED Congressional Republicans for their support afterwards and made it plain that the two bills would have failed but for GOP support.  The fastest class movement of any group during the Eisenhower administration was black families moving upward into the middle and upper-middle classes.  During the Reagan administration, the black middle class was moving faster than any other group into the upper economic classes.  That movement came to a screeching halt when Clinton took office and started punishing entrepeneurs with confiscatory tax policies.  

LBJ&#039;s so-called &quot;War on Poverty&quot; did more to destroy the nuclear black family than anything done in recent decades, with the possible exception of the Democrat-inspired idea that only a black teacher is competent to teach a black student and only a black politician is capable of addressing the interests of black constituents.  In the case of the former, when the bureaucracy mandated that inner-city schools needed to replace competent teachers with black teachers, the schools all scrambled to find any black man or woman with a degree who was willing to teach.  As a consequence, they hired lots of people who were in no way capable of teaching, but were attracted to the job because it paid relatively well and offered tenure which is essentially permanent job security.  In the case of the latter, the black community wound up with Adam Clayton Powell, NYC Mayor Dinkins, and the dozens of black Congresscritters who are venal and are interested in NOTHING except keeping their jobs.  My own Congressman, Republican J.C. Watts, Jr., was DENIED access to and membership in the Black Congressional Caucus.  Why?  He was a conservative and they simply couldn&#039;t stand having a contrary voice in their midst.  Note that the organization is NOT called &quot;The Black Liberal Congressional Caucus&quot; or &quot;The Black Democrat Congressional Caucus.&quot;

But back to the &quot;War on Poverty.&quot;  The entrenched bureaucracy came up with almost insane &quot;rules&quot; for receiving &quot;free government money&quot; in the many give-aways that made up the WOP.  For example, a family could NOT receive AFDC (Aid to Families With Dependent Children) payments if the household included an able-bodied man.  The result was black fathers left their families (or hid their presence from the &quot;inspectors&quot; who checked up on recipient families from time to time.)  This eventually devolved into a situation where black men simply didn&#039;t marry the mothers of their children in the first place.  Secondly, the government rewarded having children out of wedlock--particularly for teen-age girls who were often rebelling against their autocratic mothers and needed an excuse to leave home (and very likely school as well.)  If a girl got pregnant and moved away, the government would step in and give the girl housing, medical, food, child care, job training and placement assistance and would even INCREASE her welfare checks if she got pregnant and had more kids--and the perception settled in that it was only Democrats who &quot;wanted to help them.&quot;  Over the next 35 years (and $8 TRILLION in welfare down the rat-hole) &quot;poverty&quot; wasn&#039;t reduced by a single percentage point.  

I KNOW that there were more white families on welfare than black families, but we&#039;re talking here about the black community...not &quot;the poor&quot;...so that&#039;s beside the point of this discussion.  The point is that there was a higher percentage of black families on welfare than either whites or Hispanics.  When the Republican Congress of 1998 finally FORCED welfare reform through, some blacks had become so acclimated to the entitlement culture that they were furious with conservatives in general and Republican conservatives in particular.

Which is more &quot;compassionate&quot;?  Giving &quot;free&quot; stuff to people in need (which the government has to take by force, or threat of force, from those who&#039;ve earned it) or creating an economic climate in which ANYONE can succeed economically if they are willing to work, save, get an education and improve their own futures?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Jack (Post 18.)<br />
That may be the most ill-informed post I&#8217;ve ever read anywhere on the internet.  Your perception of conservatives in general and Republican conservatives in particular, is so dead wrong that it&#8217;s scary anyone would have the temerity to post it anywhere&#8211;much less here.  It was a Republican President who freed the black slaves.  It was a CONSERVATIVE who integrated the American military. Admittedly, he was a Democrat at that time, but he would NOT be welcomed into the Democrat Party of today.  It was a Republican administration who filed &#8220;friend of the court briefs&#8221; in support of the eventual desegregation of the public schools by the USSC in the Brown vs. Board of Education decision.  It was REPUBLICAN votes which insured the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voters Rights Act, without which the two bills would have been defeated by a MAJORITY Democrat Congress.  LBJ even THANKED Congressional Republicans for their support afterwards and made it plain that the two bills would have failed but for GOP support.  The fastest class movement of any group during the Eisenhower administration was black families moving upward into the middle and upper-middle classes.  During the Reagan administration, the black middle class was moving faster than any other group into the upper economic classes.  That movement came to a screeching halt when Clinton took office and started punishing entrepeneurs with confiscatory tax policies.  </p>
<p>LBJ&#8217;s so-called &#8220;War on Poverty&#8221; did more to destroy the nuclear black family than anything done in recent decades, with the possible exception of the Democrat-inspired idea that only a black teacher is competent to teach a black student and only a black politician is capable of addressing the interests of black constituents.  In the case of the former, when the bureaucracy mandated that inner-city schools needed to replace competent teachers with black teachers, the schools all scrambled to find any black man or woman with a degree who was willing to teach.  As a consequence, they hired lots of people who were in no way capable of teaching, but were attracted to the job because it paid relatively well and offered tenure which is essentially permanent job security.  In the case of the latter, the black community wound up with Adam Clayton Powell, NYC Mayor Dinkins, and the dozens of black Congresscritters who are venal and are interested in NOTHING except keeping their jobs.  My own Congressman, Republican J.C. Watts, Jr., was DENIED access to and membership in the Black Congressional Caucus.  Why?  He was a conservative and they simply couldn&#8217;t stand having a contrary voice in their midst.  Note that the organization is NOT called &#8220;The Black Liberal Congressional Caucus&#8221; or &#8220;The Black Democrat Congressional Caucus.&#8221;</p>
<p>But back to the &#8220;War on Poverty.&#8221;  The entrenched bureaucracy came up with almost insane &#8220;rules&#8221; for receiving &#8220;free government money&#8221; in the many give-aways that made up the WOP.  For example, a family could NOT receive AFDC (Aid to Families With Dependent Children) payments if the household included an able-bodied man.  The result was black fathers left their families (or hid their presence from the &#8220;inspectors&#8221; who checked up on recipient families from time to time.)  This eventually devolved into a situation where black men simply didn&#8217;t marry the mothers of their children in the first place.  Secondly, the government rewarded having children out of wedlock&#8211;particularly for teen-age girls who were often rebelling against their autocratic mothers and needed an excuse to leave home (and very likely school as well.)  If a girl got pregnant and moved away, the government would step in and give the girl housing, medical, food, child care, job training and placement assistance and would even INCREASE her welfare checks if she got pregnant and had more kids&#8211;and the perception settled in that it was only Democrats who &#8220;wanted to help them.&#8221;  Over the next 35 years (and $8 TRILLION in welfare down the rat-hole) &#8220;poverty&#8221; wasn&#8217;t reduced by a single percentage point.  </p>
<p>I KNOW that there were more white families on welfare than black families, but we&#8217;re talking here about the black community&#8230;not &#8220;the poor&#8221;&#8230;so that&#8217;s beside the point of this discussion.  The point is that there was a higher percentage of black families on welfare than either whites or Hispanics.  When the Republican Congress of 1998 finally FORCED welfare reform through, some blacks had become so acclimated to the entitlement culture that they were furious with conservatives in general and Republican conservatives in particular.</p>
<p>Which is more &#8220;compassionate&#8221;?  Giving &#8220;free&#8221; stuff to people in need (which the government has to take by force, or threat of force, from those who&#8217;ve earned it) or creating an economic climate in which ANYONE can succeed economically if they are willing to work, save, get an education and improve their own futures?</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-the-gop-can-court-black-voters/#comment-166888</link>
		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 14:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since Republicans and conservatives claim to pursue ideas in the political arena, why should we have to &quot;court black voters&quot; or any other group?

If we have to &quot;court black voters&quot;, then do we also have to court Mexican voters, homosexual voters, pregnant voters, Muslim voters, welfare voters, rich voters, rural voters, law-abiding voters, criminal voters......oh, that&#039;s right, we already do.

No wonder we are no longer the party of ideas.

We&#039;ve allowed the PC crowd to Balkanize the Republican party as the Democrat party was Balkanized decades ago.

It&#039;s too bad the effort to THINK has been deemed too complicated for the average voter.  Which reminds me, we also must learn to court the really stupid voter.  (For hints on how to do that, review the &#039;08 Obama campaign)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Republicans and conservatives claim to pursue ideas in the political arena, why should we have to &#8220;court black voters&#8221; or any other group?</p>
<p>If we have to &#8220;court black voters&#8221;, then do we also have to court Mexican voters, homosexual voters, pregnant voters, Muslim voters, welfare voters, rich voters, rural voters, law-abiding voters, criminal voters&#8230;&#8230;oh, that&#8217;s right, we already do.</p>
<p>No wonder we are no longer the party of ideas.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve allowed the PC crowd to Balkanize the Republican party as the Democrat party was Balkanized decades ago.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad the effort to THINK has been deemed too complicated for the average voter.  Which reminds me, we also must learn to court the really stupid voter.  (For hints on how to do that, review the &#8217;08 Obama campaign)</p>
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		<title>By: Assistant Village Idiot</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-the-gop-can-court-black-voters/#comment-166577</link>
		<dc:creator>Assistant Village Idiot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. X, Jack is dealing in impressions, not facts.  Reading history will be unpersuasive.  Political cartoons or TV comedy might be more helpful.

But you knew that already.  I&#039;m just trying to remind you to lower your blood pressure.  You&#039;re welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. X, Jack is dealing in impressions, not facts.  Reading history will be unpersuasive.  Political cartoons or TV comedy might be more helpful.</p>
<p>But you knew that already.  I&#8217;m just trying to remind you to lower your blood pressure.  You&#8217;re welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 19:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The only way the Reps will get more black voters is to disassociate themselves from the KKK&quot;
read your history.  the Democrats founded the KKK and the KKK served as the terrorist wing of the Democrat Party for 90 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only way the Reps will get more black voters is to disassociate themselves from the KKK&#8221;<br />
read your history.  the Democrats founded the KKK and the KKK served as the terrorist wing of the Democrat Party for 90 years.</p>
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		<title>By: zeppenwolf</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-the-gop-can-court-black-voters/#comment-166273</link>
		<dc:creator>zeppenwolf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; ...in a democracy, it is an inherently unstable arrangement for 90% of any electorate to consistently vote one way.

Says who?

Blacks have been voting Dem to this extent for years-- if that is an &quot;inherently unstable&quot; pattern, it&#039;s a remarkably stable &quot;inherently unstable&quot; pattern.

Same thing with Jews...  Really any &quot;group&quot; that puts perception and historical biases over reality.

Unless you expect liberals to suddenly surrender their near monopolies in the &quot;mainstream&quot; media, academia, Hollywood, etc, etc, then don&#039;t expect this &quot;inherently unstable&quot; voting pattern to change anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; &#8230;in a democracy, it is an inherently unstable arrangement for 90% of any electorate to consistently vote one way.</p>
<p>Says who?</p>
<p>Blacks have been voting Dem to this extent for years&#8211; if that is an &#8220;inherently unstable&#8221; pattern, it&#8217;s a remarkably stable &#8220;inherently unstable&#8221; pattern.</p>
<p>Same thing with Jews&#8230;  Really any &#8220;group&#8221; that puts perception and historical biases over reality.</p>
<p>Unless you expect liberals to suddenly surrender their near monopolies in the &#8220;mainstream&#8221; media, academia, Hollywood, etc, etc, then don&#8217;t expect this &#8220;inherently unstable&#8221; voting pattern to change anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 06:40:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Black Republicans are not thought of as uncle toms, maybe some of the racists you hang out with Carolb. The problem is the Republicans by nature are exclusionary and selfish, and lopsided in their approach to fairness. Historically the Dems are the only ones that have addressed blacks issues and concerns. Now with that in mind, who would you vote for? You go with who&#039;s on your side. The only way the Reps will get more black voters is to disassociate themselves from the KKK, the neonazis and the white supremacists. And show that they are concerned about the middle and lower classes, that they are for civil rights, and believe that all Americans are equal. Otherwise, forgetaboutit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Black Republicans are not thought of as uncle toms, maybe some of the racists you hang out with Carolb. The problem is the Republicans by nature are exclusionary and selfish, and lopsided in their approach to fairness. Historically the Dems are the only ones that have addressed blacks issues and concerns. Now with that in mind, who would you vote for? You go with who&#8217;s on your side. The only way the Reps will get more black voters is to disassociate themselves from the KKK, the neonazis and the white supremacists. And show that they are concerned about the middle and lower classes, that they are for civil rights, and believe that all Americans are equal. Otherwise, forgetaboutit.</p>
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		<title>By: thinking mom</title>
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		<dc:creator>thinking mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 13:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What of the large blocks of single families?  I spsuect these mostly girl/women headed families are alost totally Democratic. And I don&#039;t see the DEMS interested in reducing their number any time soon...

HOW IS TEEN SEXUALITY PERCEIVED BY MANY TEACHERS??? DO THEY DO ANYTHING TO CHALLENGE TEENS TO WORK TOWARDS SELF CONTROL?  aND TOWARDS THE 2 PARENT FAMILY (OR THE SINGLE PARENT FAMILY ATTACHING ITSELF TO QUALITY, SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS???) 

OR DO THEY WANT THIS VOTING BLOC TO LIVE ON AS A MOSTLY DEM VOTING BLOC???

...(One Chicago teacher I talked to had a scornful pim*p attitude towards teen sexuality.  He acted appropriately towards them personally, but saw no reason to challenge them to move to a higher standard sexually...Just wanted to hand them the anti pregnancy devices ---which as we can see, have not and do not prevent large amounts of pregnant teens...

Mabe the Reps need to value these mostly single family people - As an adoptive mom of a child born to a single teen, I can&#039;t imagine the world without him!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What of the large blocks of single families?  I spsuect these mostly girl/women headed families are alost totally Democratic. And I don&#8217;t see the DEMS interested in reducing their number any time soon&#8230;</p>
<p>HOW IS TEEN SEXUALITY PERCEIVED BY MANY TEACHERS??? DO THEY DO ANYTHING TO CHALLENGE TEENS TO WORK TOWARDS SELF CONTROL?  aND TOWARDS THE 2 PARENT FAMILY (OR THE SINGLE PARENT FAMILY ATTACHING ITSELF TO QUALITY, SUPPORTIVE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS???) </p>
<p>OR DO THEY WANT THIS VOTING BLOC TO LIVE ON AS A MOSTLY DEM VOTING BLOC???</p>
<p>&#8230;(One Chicago teacher I talked to had a scornful pim*p attitude towards teen sexuality.  He acted appropriately towards them personally, but saw no reason to challenge them to move to a higher standard sexually&#8230;Just wanted to hand them the anti pregnancy devices &#8212;which as we can see, have not and do not prevent large amounts of pregnant teens&#8230;</p>
<p>Mabe the Reps need to value these mostly single family people &#8211; As an adoptive mom of a child born to a single teen, I can&#8217;t imagine the world without him!</p>
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		<title>By: J. Rockford</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Rockford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have seen a superb black politician -- Michael Steele -- lose to a typical white lib -- Cardin -- in Maryland.  Steele lost because three big counties -- Baltimore, Prince George &amp; Montgomery went for Cardin.  All other Maryland counties voted for Steele.  These three counties are predominently black.

Tired of having my candidates lose in large part due to the 95+ black vote going to libs who promise them everything and never deliver, I say good riddance to the black vote.  Let them stay in the inner city ghettos (or prisons) and let them watch the hispanics and other immigrants PASS THEM BY!  They can wait for January 20th when B. Hussein Obama will pay their gas and rent.  LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have seen a superb black politician &#8212; Michael Steele &#8212; lose to a typical white lib &#8212; Cardin &#8212; in Maryland.  Steele lost because three big counties &#8212; Baltimore, Prince George &amp; Montgomery went for Cardin.  All other Maryland counties voted for Steele.  These three counties are predominently black.</p>
<p>Tired of having my candidates lose in large part due to the 95+ black vote going to libs who promise them everything and never deliver, I say good riddance to the black vote.  Let them stay in the inner city ghettos (or prisons) and let them watch the hispanics and other immigrants PASS THEM BY!  They can wait for January 20th when B. Hussein Obama will pay their gas and rent.  LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: WestGuard</title>
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		<dc:creator>WestGuard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only a new crop of &quot;conservative minded&quot; rappers and hip hoppers can save the day, since these are the folks that todays black youth are most infuenced by.
I guess it&#039;s just not &quot;cool&quot; to be a conservative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only a new crop of &#8220;conservative minded&#8221; rappers and hip hoppers can save the day, since these are the folks that todays black youth are most infuenced by.<br />
I guess it&#8217;s just not &#8220;cool&#8221; to be a conservative.</p>
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