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		<title>By: G. Clarke</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-smart-was-it-for-pelosi-to-pick-a-fight-with-the-cia/#comment-263987</link>
		<dc:creator>G. Clarke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 03:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pelosi is the Botox of American Politics: all about the enhancement of transitory appearances from what, in essence, is the injection of nothing more than a viral poison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pelosi is the Botox of American Politics: all about the enhancement of transitory appearances from what, in essence, is the injection of nothing more than a viral poison.</p>
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		<title>By: Berlet98</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-smart-was-it-for-pelosi-to-pick-a-fight-with-the-cia/#comment-263273</link>
		<dc:creator>Berlet98</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 22:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waterboarding Versus True Torture

I’ve been getting pretty fed up with this whole waterboarding-torture controversy manufactured by Democrats.  It’s obvious they knew about it all along and now are attempting to use it to tar and feather Republicans and the Bush administration.  

Literally tarring and feathering might in fact constitute torture while waterboarding would not and playing fast and loose with linguistic interpretations doesn’t make it so.

Speaker of the House, Nancy “I Never Met a Lie I Didn’t Like” Pelosi,   should take a look at this 5 minute video, provided by the good people at AmericanConservativeDaily.com, http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2009/05/video-of-waterboarding-technique/.

A reporter who shall remain nameless, since volunteering to be waterboarded by the American military suggests he was not in full possession of his faculties, underwent that “torture” technique of his own volition.  He also demonstrated that waterboarding is something less than actual torture; unpleasant, yes, torture, definitely not. 

Torture is something of an art form developed over eons by people far less civilized than Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, and our C.I.A. and perfected in modern times by none other than our current allies, the Japanese, and current enemies, the Chinese, the Russians, and by those who profess a deep and abiding faith in Allah. 

Torture has now been defined by the eminently-educated and pre-eminently politically-correct scholars at Stanford University, thanks be to God!

They say it incorporates such methods ”as searing with hot irons, burning at the stake, electric shock treatment to the genitals, cutting out parts of the body, e.g. tongue, entrails or genitals, severe beatings, suspending by the legs with arms tied behind back, applying thumbscrews, inserting a needle under the fingernails, drilling through an unanesthetized tooth.” 

Those barbarisms all sound quite painful and are not something to be tried at home, or at parties, or even by drunken Democrats.

The Stanford intelligentsia then felt compelled to extrapolate from true torture techniques for the purpose of Republican-bashing, although never mentioning any political party.  They appended to their definition, . . .

(Read the rest at http://genelalor.com)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waterboarding Versus True Torture</p>
<p>I’ve been getting pretty fed up with this whole waterboarding-torture controversy manufactured by Democrats.  It’s obvious they knew about it all along and now are attempting to use it to tar and feather Republicans and the Bush administration.  </p>
<p>Literally tarring and feathering might in fact constitute torture while waterboarding would not and playing fast and loose with linguistic interpretations doesn’t make it so.</p>
<p>Speaker of the House, Nancy “I Never Met a Lie I Didn’t Like” Pelosi,   should take a look at this 5 minute video, provided by the good people at AmericanConservativeDaily.com, <a href="http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2009/05/video-of-waterboarding-technique/" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanconservativedaily.com/2009/05/video-of-waterboarding-technique/</a>.</p>
<p>A reporter who shall remain nameless, since volunteering to be waterboarded by the American military suggests he was not in full possession of his faculties, underwent that “torture” technique of his own volition.  He also demonstrated that waterboarding is something less than actual torture; unpleasant, yes, torture, definitely not. </p>
<p>Torture is something of an art form developed over eons by people far less civilized than Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld, and our C.I.A. and perfected in modern times by none other than our current allies, the Japanese, and current enemies, the Chinese, the Russians, and by those who profess a deep and abiding faith in Allah. </p>
<p>Torture has now been defined by the eminently-educated and pre-eminently politically-correct scholars at Stanford University, thanks be to God!</p>
<p>They say it incorporates such methods ”as searing with hot irons, burning at the stake, electric shock treatment to the genitals, cutting out parts of the body, e.g. tongue, entrails or genitals, severe beatings, suspending by the legs with arms tied behind back, applying thumbscrews, inserting a needle under the fingernails, drilling through an unanesthetized tooth.” </p>
<p>Those barbarisms all sound quite painful and are not something to be tried at home, or at parties, or even by drunken Democrats.</p>
<p>The Stanford intelligentsia then felt compelled to extrapolate from true torture techniques for the purpose of Republican-bashing, although never mentioning any political party.  They appended to their definition, . . .</p>
<p>(Read the rest at <a href="http://genelalor.com" rel="nofollow">http://genelalor.com</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: vivo</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-smart-was-it-for-pelosi-to-pick-a-fight-with-the-cia/#comment-262922</link>
		<dc:creator>vivo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 11:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Republicans are pathetic:  they always cover their sewage with fog.  Distract, divert, create chaos.  That&#039;s the politicians way of life.  Sounds CIA-like . . .  Result:  confusion.  What&#039;s new?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicans are pathetic:  they always cover their sewage with fog.  Distract, divert, create chaos.  That&#8217;s the politicians way of life.  Sounds CIA-like . . .  Result:  confusion.  What&#8217;s new?</p>
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		<title>By: Pastor of Muppets</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-smart-was-it-for-pelosi-to-pick-a-fight-with-the-cia/#comment-262536</link>
		<dc:creator>Pastor of Muppets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 20:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blackwell:&lt;i&gt;&quot;Uh no. 

The position is that by troweling partisianship over a national security issue and lying about it, she ought not to be speaker. There is nothing wrong with being for “torture” before deciding to be “against” it: but claiming that you never had a clue, that those who took risks for the country ought to be investigated and jailed, affecting an indignant morality–what’s the word for it again? &quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Fine, show me the proof that she lied. But please, enlighten me, how are you going to provide that proof without an investigation? And how are you going to have a torture investigation without Bush, Cheney and the CIA? 

You can&#039;t. The sad part is that you Republicans don&#039;t even realize that by calling for Pelosi&#039;s head, you&#039;re giving yourself just enough rope to hang yourselves. If you had just laid low, there would be no investigations and the Bush administration would have gotten away with illegal torture.

But you just couldn&#039;t resist attacking your accusors, and you especially couldn&#039;t resist the opportunity to attack Pelosi, whom you have made into a symbol of everything you hate about Democrats/liberals. 

Now you&#039;ve blown the whole thing up so badly that it&#039;s impossible to ignore. Now there &lt;i&gt;will&lt;/i&gt; be investigations, and its all thanks to morons like Hannity, Limbaugh, and the rest of the reactionary right wing for not being able to just sit down, shut up and, for once, accept responsiblity for your misdeeds.

Congratulations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blackwell:<i>&#8220;Uh no. </p>
<p>The position is that by troweling partisianship over a national security issue and lying about it, she ought not to be speaker. There is nothing wrong with being for “torture” before deciding to be “against” it: but claiming that you never had a clue, that those who took risks for the country ought to be investigated and jailed, affecting an indignant morality–what’s the word for it again? &#8220;</i></p>
<p>Fine, show me the proof that she lied. But please, enlighten me, how are you going to provide that proof without an investigation? And how are you going to have a torture investigation without Bush, Cheney and the CIA? </p>
<p>You can&#8217;t. The sad part is that you Republicans don&#8217;t even realize that by calling for Pelosi&#8217;s head, you&#8217;re giving yourself just enough rope to hang yourselves. If you had just laid low, there would be no investigations and the Bush administration would have gotten away with illegal torture.</p>
<p>But you just couldn&#8217;t resist attacking your accusors, and you especially couldn&#8217;t resist the opportunity to attack Pelosi, whom you have made into a symbol of everything you hate about Democrats/liberals. </p>
<p>Now you&#8217;ve blown the whole thing up so badly that it&#8217;s impossible to ignore. Now there <i>will</i> be investigations, and its all thanks to morons like Hannity, Limbaugh, and the rest of the reactionary right wing for not being able to just sit down, shut up and, for once, accept responsiblity for your misdeeds.</p>
<p>Congratulations.</p>
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		<title>By: Blackwell</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-smart-was-it-for-pelosi-to-pick-a-fight-with-the-cia/#comment-261933</link>
		<dc:creator>Blackwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 20:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pastor: Uh no. 

The position is that by troweling partisianship over a national security issue and lying about it, she ought not to be speaker. There is nothing wrong with being for &quot;torture&quot; before deciding to be &quot;against&quot; it: but claiming that you never had a clue, that those who took risks for the country ought to be investigated and jailed, affecting an indignant morality--what&#039;s the word for it again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pastor: Uh no. </p>
<p>The position is that by troweling partisianship over a national security issue and lying about it, she ought not to be speaker. There is nothing wrong with being for &#8220;torture&#8221; before deciding to be &#8220;against&#8221; it: but claiming that you never had a clue, that those who took risks for the country ought to be investigated and jailed, affecting an indignant morality&#8211;what&#8217;s the word for it again?</p>
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		<title>By: Ramp Rat</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-smart-was-it-for-pelosi-to-pick-a-fight-with-the-cia/#comment-261874</link>
		<dc:creator>Ramp Rat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 19:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GOD! RAYBURN IS TURING OVER IN HIS GRAVE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GOD! RAYBURN IS TURING OVER IN HIS GRAVE.</p>
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		<title>By: Pastor of Muppets</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-smart-was-it-for-pelosi-to-pick-a-fight-with-the-cia/#comment-261697</link>
		<dc:creator>Pastor of Muppets</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Earlier, the right wing was claiming that torture was necessary to save the country. Now you are claiming that Pelosi should resign for some vague role, not in authorizing torture, but in being briefed on torture and not speaking up about it?

The only way a Pelosi resignation will come about is if there are investigations. And if there are investigations, you can bet that Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rusmfeld, Gonzalez, Yoo and other Republicans will be at the center of those investigations and Pelosi will only be on the periphary. 

So, basically, in order to ruin Pelosi you&#039;re going to have to drive the blade through the heart of your own party first. And I doubt that &quot;getting&quot; Pelosi is worth suicide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Earlier, the right wing was claiming that torture was necessary to save the country. Now you are claiming that Pelosi should resign for some vague role, not in authorizing torture, but in being briefed on torture and not speaking up about it?</p>
<p>The only way a Pelosi resignation will come about is if there are investigations. And if there are investigations, you can bet that Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rusmfeld, Gonzalez, Yoo and other Republicans will be at the center of those investigations and Pelosi will only be on the periphary. </p>
<p>So, basically, in order to ruin Pelosi you&#8217;re going to have to drive the blade through the heart of your own party first. And I doubt that &#8220;getting&#8221; Pelosi is worth suicide.</p>
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		<title>By: David S</title>
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		<dc:creator>David S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 14:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Pelosi goes down, she will take a good chunk of the GOP with her.  I&#039;m curious to see who gets prosecuted, assuming that an investigation will occur.

Cheney is working overtime to keep out of prison.  Attacking Pelosi just makes his eventual trial that much more likely.  Anyone who trusts the CIA version of events is either a fool or a tool.

Peace.

DS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Pelosi goes down, she will take a good chunk of the GOP with her.  I&#8217;m curious to see who gets prosecuted, assuming that an investigation will occur.</p>
<p>Cheney is working overtime to keep out of prison.  Attacking Pelosi just makes his eventual trial that much more likely.  Anyone who trusts the CIA version of events is either a fool or a tool.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
<p>DS</p>
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		<title>By: Bart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 14:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t normally engage in less than civil comments about another poster on this site but &quot;jacksmith&quot;, are you serious or just &quot;jacking off&quot; again.  Sounds like it from the content of your post.  Got proof of your &quot;inside information&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t normally engage in less than civil comments about another poster on this site but &#8220;jacksmith&#8221;, are you serious or just &#8220;jacking off&#8221; again.  Sounds like it from the content of your post.  Got proof of your &#8220;inside information&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: WR Jonas</title>
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		<dc:creator>WR Jonas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 13:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Thomsom; I have total respect for your opinion and writing; but theres something going on here you are not aware of, I call it the fools forecast .Whenever I make a pronouncement of some sort politically or socially , the opposite happens. So I am willing to look like an idiot publicly to get rid of this wretched woman.
I picked the Caps over the Pens too,so my batting average is .0002 on everything.  WRJ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Thomsom; I have total respect for your opinion and writing; but theres something going on here you are not aware of, I call it the fools forecast .Whenever I make a pronouncement of some sort politically or socially , the opposite happens. So I am willing to look like an idiot publicly to get rid of this wretched woman.<br />
I picked the Caps over the Pens too,so my batting average is .0002 on everything.  WRJ</p>
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