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		<title>By: Cybergeezer</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-can-the-world-be-blind-to-israels-existential-threats/#comment-196647</link>
		<dc:creator>Cybergeezer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 02:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine transplanting a kindergarden class into the worst neighborhood in the world; This is Israel.
&quot;All I ever needed to know I learned in kindergarden.&quot;</description>
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&#8220;All I ever needed to know I learned in kindergarden.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: allen@governmentality</title>
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		<dc:creator>allen@governmentality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 14:44:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is amazing to me that there is so much confusion over who the terrorists are, who wants war, and who wants peace.&quot;

Is it really that amazing? It was this media group that sent Joe the Plumber to do reporting on Israel&#039;s raid.

http://www.governmentalityblog.com/my_weblog/2009/01/media-dont-know-half-the-time-joe-the-plumber-in-israel.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is amazing to me that there is so much confusion over who the terrorists are, who wants war, and who wants peace.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is it really that amazing? It was this media group that sent Joe the Plumber to do reporting on Israel&#8217;s raid.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.governmentalityblog.com/my_weblog/2009/01/media-dont-know-half-the-time-joe-the-plumber-in-israel.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.governmentalityblog.com/my_weblog/2009/01/media-dont-know-half-the-time-joe-the-plumber-in-israel.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Still Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Still Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 03:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To David W. Lincoln:  You are an eloquent spokesperson for our great neighbor to the north.  God bless Canada, God bless the United States of America, and God bless freedom loving people wherever they live.</description>
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		<title>By: David W. Lincoln</title>
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		<dc:creator>David W. Lincoln</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep this in mind.  Those who do not want to see
will not see.  Here is proof:

The cultural relativists can&#039;t excuse evil
 
 
By Lauryn Oates, Citizen SpecialJanuary 29, 2009
 
 
In November, when a group of unveiled girls was attacked by men on motorcycles who sprayed acid in their faces as they were walking to morning classes in Kandahar, Canadians were shocked.

They shouldn&#039;t have been.

Every year, all over South Asia, hundreds of women have acid sprayed in their faces for committing the offence of going to school, or for going to work, or for merely walking down a street without covering their faces. In Bangladesh alone, an average of 228 women are subjected to such acid attacks every year.

But there is an important and very specific lesson to be learned from the Kandahar incident.

More than a dozen of the young Kandahari women were seriously injured, two of them blinded, and the victims have all defiantly returned to their classes at the Mirwais Mena school. One of the girls who suffered severe eye injuries is 17-year-old Shamsia: &quot;I will go to my school even if they kill me,&quot; Shamsia said. &quot;My message for the enemies is that if they do this 100 times, I am still going to continue my studies.&quot;

The lesson here is that millions of brave Afghan schoolgirls are dedicated to pursuing their studies, in sometimes perilous and hostile circumstances, and their devotion is heartfelt, homegrown and hardy. It has not been &quot;imposed&quot; upon them by the &quot;West.&quot;

As Canadians, we should be proud and honoured that history has afforded our country a specific opportunity to help young Afghan women assert their fundamental right to education. Our focus should be on how we can do more, and better. Instead, a bizarre kind of cultural relativism has come to infect national debates about the Afghan mission, clouding our judgment and entirely obscuring the very meaning of universal human rights.

I first noticed it when I was in high school, in 1996, when I was circulating a petition to protest the Taliban&#039;s brutal oppression of women. One of my teachers refused to sign the petition, saying, well, that&#039;s their culture, and we have no right to interfere.

Two years ago I spoke on a panel organized by Carleton University&#039;s Students Coalition Against War, in Ottawa. I was accused of exaggerating the suffering of Afghan women, but even if I had a point, it was an &quot;internal cultural matter,&quot; and certainly none of my business.

Human rights are culturally relative, the thinking goes, and the universality of human rights is some sort of western imperialist construction. It is as though girls have no right to read if their &quot;culture&quot; forbids it. It is a rarely scrutinized assumption, but it is ubiquitous in Canadian universities, and it reaches its most toxic concentrations in &quot;anti-war&quot; debates.

The result is that the once great cause of fulfilling the promise of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is rendered merely a &quot;Eurocentric&quot; enterprise, and necessarily something shabby.

Years from now, when our own children look back on us, what will they make of how Canada, one of the richest countries of the world, lived up to the promise of universal human rights? In Afghanistan, where those rights are only now being extended to the people, and are still just nominally available to the women of that country, did we uphold our commitment?

Did we not see in the Afghan people our shared humanity? Did we recognize death-cult misogyny for what it really is? Did we have the courage to call fascism by its proper name, or did we excuse ourselves and retreat into the comfortable, false virtues of pacifist isolationism and cultural relativism?

Afghanistan is not just a theatre of war in the conventional meaning of the term. It is also a battleground of values. But it is not a clash between &quot;western&quot; and &quot;eastern&quot; cultures. The Afghan people want their girls to go to school. The Afghan people do not want the Taliban. But in Canada, it has nonetheless become necessary to point this out, over and over, and also to point out what it is that the Taliban actually do want.

&quot;They want what they had before 2001: an extremist, eccentric Islamic state where the sports stadium is used for public executions of dissenters, homosexuals and women accused of adultery,&quot; Cheryl Benard of the Rand Corporation recently reminded us here in the &quot;West.&quot; What the Taliban want is a place apart from humanity, where &quot;religious police roam the streets with sticks to beat anyone whose beard or chador is too short; and all education for girls is eliminated.&quot;

The Taliban and their fellow travellers have not given up on this vision, and to achieve it they are happy to blow up civilians and their own in suicide bombings (an act condemned in Islam and in Afghan traditions, for any &quot;yes, but&quot; cultural relativists reading this). They kidnap journalists, hijack food-aid convoys, decapitate teachers, and slaughter unarmed women working for foreign aid organizations -- the fate that recently befell the Canadian humanitarian workers Shirley Case and Jackie Kirk.

Yet to hear from some of the more prominent &quot;troops out&quot; voices in Canada, the Taliban are merely &quot;dissidents&quot; or &quot;the resistance.&quot; To listen to these voices, you could be forgiven for thinking that the Taliban were some quaint tribe, engaged in a noble fight against the power-hungry, capitalist West.

Once you strip away the misleading &quot;explanations&quot; offered up by the cultural relativists, all that remains is disgraceful excuse-making for an ideology that requires its adherents to pull women&#039;s fingernails out for the crime of wearing nail polish. It is an ideology engaged in an open revolt against humanity, against the values shared by Afghans and Canadians alike, and against an entire international order founded in the aftermath of the Holocaust.

With a new year under way in our engagement in Afghanistan, let us do a better job of honouring the legacy on which the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is based -- in Afghanistan, and everywhere.

Lauryn Oates is a founding member of the Canada Afghanistan Solidarity Committee and project director of Canadian Women for Women in Afghanistan&#039;s Excel-erate Teacher Training Program. She has advocated for the rights of Afghan women and girls since the Taliban invasion in 1996 and travels frequently to Afghanistan.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep this in mind.  Those who do not want to see<br />
will not see.  Here is proof:</p>
<p>The cultural relativists can&#8217;t excuse evil</p>
<p>By Lauryn Oates, Citizen SpecialJanuary 29, 2009</p>
<p>In November, when a group of unveiled girls was attacked by men on motorcycles who sprayed acid in their faces as they were walking to morning classes in Kandahar, Canadians were shocked.</p>
<p>They shouldn&#8217;t have been.</p>
<p>Every year, all over South Asia, hundreds of women have acid sprayed in their faces for committing the offence of going to school, or for going to work, or for merely walking down a street without covering their faces. In Bangladesh alone, an average of 228 women are subjected to such acid attacks every year.</p>
<p>But there is an important and very specific lesson to be learned from the Kandahar incident.</p>
<p>More than a dozen of the young Kandahari women were seriously injured, two of them blinded, and the victims have all defiantly returned to their classes at the Mirwais Mena school. One of the girls who suffered severe eye injuries is 17-year-old Shamsia: &#8220;I will go to my school even if they kill me,&#8221; Shamsia said. &#8220;My message for the enemies is that if they do this 100 times, I am still going to continue my studies.&#8221;</p>
<p>The lesson here is that millions of brave Afghan schoolgirls are dedicated to pursuing their studies, in sometimes perilous and hostile circumstances, and their devotion is heartfelt, homegrown and hardy. It has not been &#8220;imposed&#8221; upon them by the &#8220;West.&#8221;</p>
<p>As Canadians, we should be proud and honoured that history has afforded our country a specific opportunity to help young Afghan women assert their fundamental right to education. Our focus should be on how we can do more, and better. Instead, a bizarre kind of cultural relativism has come to infect national debates about the Afghan mission, clouding our judgment and entirely obscuring the very meaning of universal human rights.</p>
<p>I first noticed it when I was in high school, in 1996, when I was circulating a petition to protest the Taliban&#8217;s brutal oppression of women. One of my teachers refused to sign the petition, saying, well, that&#8217;s their culture, and we have no right to interfere.</p>
<p>Two years ago I spoke on a panel organized by Carleton University&#8217;s Students Coalition Against War, in Ottawa. I was accused of exaggerating the suffering of Afghan women, but even if I had a point, it was an &#8220;internal cultural matter,&#8221; and certainly none of my business.</p>
<p>Human rights are culturally relative, the thinking goes, and the universality of human rights is some sort of western imperialist construction. It is as though girls have no right to read if their &#8220;culture&#8221; forbids it. It is a rarely scrutinized assumption, but it is ubiquitous in Canadian universities, and it reaches its most toxic concentrations in &#8220;anti-war&#8221; debates.</p>
<p>The result is that the once great cause of fulfilling the promise of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is rendered merely a &#8220;Eurocentric&#8221; enterprise, and necessarily something shabby.</p>
<p>Years from now, when our own children look back on us, what will they make of how Canada, one of the richest countries of the world, lived up to the promise of universal human rights? In Afghanistan, where those rights are only now being extended to the people, and are still just nominally available to the women of that country, did we uphold our commitment?</p>
<p>Did we not see in the Afghan people our shared humanity? Did we recognize death-cult misogyny for what it really is? Did we have the courage to call fascism by its proper name, or did we excuse ourselves and retreat into the comfortable, false virtues of pacifist isolationism and cultural relativism?</p>
<p>Afghanistan is not just a theatre of war in the conventional meaning of the term. It is also a battleground of values. But it is not a clash between &#8220;western&#8221; and &#8220;eastern&#8221; cultures. The Afghan people want their girls to go to school. The Afghan people do not want the Taliban. But in Canada, it has nonetheless become necessary to point this out, over and over, and also to point out what it is that the Taliban actually do want.</p>
<p>&#8220;They want what they had before 2001: an extremist, eccentric Islamic state where the sports stadium is used for public executions of dissenters, homosexuals and women accused of adultery,&#8221; Cheryl Benard of the Rand Corporation recently reminded us here in the &#8220;West.&#8221; What the Taliban want is a place apart from humanity, where &#8220;religious police roam the streets with sticks to beat anyone whose beard or chador is too short; and all education for girls is eliminated.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Taliban and their fellow travellers have not given up on this vision, and to achieve it they are happy to blow up civilians and their own in suicide bombings (an act condemned in Islam and in Afghan traditions, for any &#8220;yes, but&#8221; cultural relativists reading this). They kidnap journalists, hijack food-aid convoys, decapitate teachers, and slaughter unarmed women working for foreign aid organizations &#8212; the fate that recently befell the Canadian humanitarian workers Shirley Case and Jackie Kirk.</p>
<p>Yet to hear from some of the more prominent &#8220;troops out&#8221; voices in Canada, the Taliban are merely &#8220;dissidents&#8221; or &#8220;the resistance.&#8221; To listen to these voices, you could be forgiven for thinking that the Taliban were some quaint tribe, engaged in a noble fight against the power-hungry, capitalist West.</p>
<p>Once you strip away the misleading &#8220;explanations&#8221; offered up by the cultural relativists, all that remains is disgraceful excuse-making for an ideology that requires its adherents to pull women&#8217;s fingernails out for the crime of wearing nail polish. It is an ideology engaged in an open revolt against humanity, against the values shared by Afghans and Canadians alike, and against an entire international order founded in the aftermath of the Holocaust.</p>
<p>With a new year under way in our engagement in Afghanistan, let us do a better job of honouring the legacy on which the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is based &#8212; in Afghanistan, and everywhere.</p>
<p>Lauryn Oates is a founding member of the Canada Afghanistan Solidarity Committee and project director of Canadian Women for Women in Afghanistan&#8217;s Excel-erate Teacher Training Program. She has advocated for the rights of Afghan women and girls since the Taliban invasion in 1996 and travels frequently to Afghanistan.</p>
<p>© Copyright (c) The Ottawa Citizen</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar the Grump</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oscar the Grump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 16:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark C,
You need to address your comment to the appropriate party otherwise it is considered a general statement.   And, I&#039;d be glad to show you where the shoe fits.

Linsdale is parroting the Hamas line.   It is the modern blood libel.  The IDF would prosecute any soldier guilty of such an infraction.   I&#039;m not saying that some children weren&#039;t shot.   It happens.   The number reported is suspiciously high.   I doubt if a dozen were shot by Israeli soldiers.   If that number, 400,  were really shot, my attention goes to Hamas.   BBC made a point of being the voice of Hamas.   One of their programs displayed in Egypt children that had been shot up close will full blame given to the IDF.   Their mistake was to display an x-ray of a child&#039;s head with a bullet in it.   The bullet was from an AK47.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7831588.stm

You be the judge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark C,<br />
You need to address your comment to the appropriate party otherwise it is considered a general statement.   And, I&#8217;d be glad to show you where the shoe fits.</p>
<p>Linsdale is parroting the Hamas line.   It is the modern blood libel.  The IDF would prosecute any soldier guilty of such an infraction.   I&#8217;m not saying that some children weren&#8217;t shot.   It happens.   The number reported is suspiciously high.   I doubt if a dozen were shot by Israeli soldiers.   If that number, 400,  were really shot, my attention goes to Hamas.   BBC made a point of being the voice of Hamas.   One of their programs displayed in Egypt children that had been shot up close will full blame given to the IDF.   Their mistake was to display an x-ray of a child&#8217;s head with a bullet in it.   The bullet was from an AK47.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7831588.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7831588.stm</a></p>
<p>You be the judge.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 14:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oscar, if the shoe fits, wear it.  The Judenratt were what came to mind when reading Linsdale&#039;s Israel-hating diatribes above...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oscar, if the shoe fits, wear it.  The Judenratt were what came to mind when reading Linsdale&#8217;s Israel-hating diatribes above&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Len Frankel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Len Frankel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 03:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iran is the best thing to happen to Israel in 60 years. The Mullahs are serious about getting the bomb, they&#039;re serious about using it to destroy Israel. That means Israel will be faced with a stark choice within the next twelve months: allow Iran&#039;s nuclear weapons program to reach maturity or strangle it while it&#039;s still vulnerable. And if Israel opts for the latter it will almost certainly have to act in defiance of the Obama administration, the EU, the UN, etc. who will all be in full &quot;negotiation&quot; mode. For a country that&#039;s always made a living beating back its Muslim enemies, only to allow the Nations to keep the Muslim thorn in its side, Iran spells the end of that game - for Israel and the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iran is the best thing to happen to Israel in 60 years. The Mullahs are serious about getting the bomb, they&#8217;re serious about using it to destroy Israel. That means Israel will be faced with a stark choice within the next twelve months: allow Iran&#8217;s nuclear weapons program to reach maturity or strangle it while it&#8217;s still vulnerable. And if Israel opts for the latter it will almost certainly have to act in defiance of the Obama administration, the EU, the UN, etc. who will all be in full &#8220;negotiation&#8221; mode. For a country that&#8217;s always made a living beating back its Muslim enemies, only to allow the Nations to keep the Muslim thorn in its side, Iran spells the end of that game &#8211; for Israel and the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar the Grump</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oscar the Grump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who don&#039;t know the Judenratts were the Jewish organizations the Nazis set up in the ghettos to help them control the population.   They were complicit in executions and shipping the Jews to the gas chambers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who don&#8217;t know the Judenratts were the Jewish organizations the Nazis set up in the ghettos to help them control the population.   They were complicit in executions and shipping the Jews to the gas chambers.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar the Grump</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oscar the Grump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark C,
Great remark, it reminds me of all the love there is in the world.   Gee, I&#039;d love to me you in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark C,<br />
Great remark, it reminds me of all the love there is in the world.   Gee, I&#8217;d love to me you in person.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To cubanbob @ 120  -  Let us remember that the Arabs and the Jewish people are no longer the same people that  they were those thousands of years ago as much water has flowed neath the bridge since. These two peoples have proven time and time again that they can never live  &#039;side by side&#039; in peace. The question now is why it should  be the miniscule state of  Israel chosen to be the &#039;Proposed State for the &#039;Palestinians&#039; when Arabs have the whole of the land mass in the area to create a State of their very own?   Arab Leaders built Dubai didn&#039;t they?  Why not they  build another for these Palestinian/Arabs in their very own homeland  and  put an end to the ongoing Conflict in the Mideast  between Arab and Jew and one  which might easily  escalate into something far more lethal  and dangerous
  in the not too distant future ... especially while Iran  is  waiting in the wings to &#039;wipe Israel off the map&#039;. The Jewish State has enough on her plate without having to fight a war each year in order to survive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To cubanbob @ 120  &#8211;  Let us remember that the Arabs and the Jewish people are no longer the same people that  they were those thousands of years ago as much water has flowed neath the bridge since. These two peoples have proven time and time again that they can never live  &#8216;side by side&#8217; in peace. The question now is why it should  be the miniscule state of  Israel chosen to be the &#8216;Proposed State for the &#8216;Palestinians&#8217; when Arabs have the whole of the land mass in the area to create a State of their very own?   Arab Leaders built Dubai didn&#8217;t they?  Why not they  build another for these Palestinian/Arabs in their very own homeland  and  put an end to the ongoing Conflict in the Mideast  between Arab and Jew and one  which might easily  escalate into something far more lethal  and dangerous<br />
  in the not too distant future &#8230; especially while Iran  is  waiting in the wings to &#8216;wipe Israel off the map&#8217;. The Jewish State has enough on her plate without having to fight a war each year in order to survive.</p>
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