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		<title>By: REAL West Point anonymous</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-bush-impressed-a-west-point-cadet/#comment-240570</link>
		<dc:creator>REAL West Point anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Apr 2009 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the so-called &quot;West Point anonymous,&quot;

General Shinseki is not on our faculty. Every cadet knows this for a fact. Everything you say from this point will have little credibility since you are obviously not a West Pointer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the so-called &#8220;West Point anonymous,&#8221;</p>
<p>General Shinseki is not on our faculty. Every cadet knows this for a fact. Everything you say from this point will have little credibility since you are obviously not a West Pointer.</p>
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		<title>By: shrubnose</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-bush-impressed-a-west-point-cadet/#comment-195229</link>
		<dc:creator>shrubnose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just passing Through and other Reich-Wingers should take a look at the Gallup Poll website. There they will find that Pretzylnitwit Bu$h and his crime gang have made a different impression on the vast majority of Americans than Bush made on Cadet Abbott  ,viz., At present 5 states are solid (Utah,Wyoming, Idaho, Alaska) or lean (Nebraska) Republican in voting preference.....In contrast, 29 states plus DC had Democratic advantages of 10% or more. 6 states had Democratic advantages between 5 and 9%. This is excellent news for the GOP ! (John McCain DID say he liked being an underdog, and he IS in the GOP, right ?) Looks to me like Mr Steele has a tough job ahead of him. Not impossible, but very tough.My read - Democratic advantage will increase , GOP may hang on in a few states with high % of WASP&#039;s in population. I believe in 20 years the national government in the USA will be totally controlled by the Democratic party. Remember, you read it here . You say you doubt this ? Tell me about it in 20 years. I do NOT advocate this . One party rule is NOT a good thing, even if it&#039;s my party. But, I see it coming. And we can, in large measure, thank Mr GW Bush for this. This is his legacy, this is what he has done to the GOP and the USA. I wonder what President Lincoln would say to Mr Bush about this. Any thoughts ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just passing Through and other Reich-Wingers should take a look at the Gallup Poll website. There they will find that Pretzylnitwit Bu$h and his crime gang have made a different impression on the vast majority of Americans than Bush made on Cadet Abbott  ,viz., At present 5 states are solid (Utah,Wyoming, Idaho, Alaska) or lean (Nebraska) Republican in voting preference&#8230;..In contrast, 29 states plus DC had Democratic advantages of 10% or more. 6 states had Democratic advantages between 5 and 9%. This is excellent news for the GOP ! (John McCain DID say he liked being an underdog, and he IS in the GOP, right ?) Looks to me like Mr Steele has a tough job ahead of him. Not impossible, but very tough.My read &#8211; Democratic advantage will increase , GOP may hang on in a few states with high % of WASP&#8217;s in population. I believe in 20 years the national government in the USA will be totally controlled by the Democratic party. Remember, you read it here . You say you doubt this ? Tell me about it in 20 years. I do NOT advocate this . One party rule is NOT a good thing, even if it&#8217;s my party. But, I see it coming. And we can, in large measure, thank Mr GW Bush for this. This is his legacy, this is what he has done to the GOP and the USA. I wonder what President Lincoln would say to Mr Bush about this. Any thoughts ?</p>
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		<title>By: Kicker</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-bush-impressed-a-west-point-cadet/#comment-194824</link>
		<dc:creator>Kicker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:54:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Several have commented about Bush &quot;not wanting to be a politician&quot;.  Personally, I find that a virtue, not a flaw.  A wise man once said, &quot;Any who strive for power should be denied, and power given only to those for whom it is a burden.&quot;

Bush, for all his faults, understood the limits and responsibilities of the power he wielded as President.  The sad fact is that many of our recent Presidents have been more enchanted with what the Powers of the President allowed them to do, then in what the Responsibilities of the Office required them to not do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several have commented about Bush &#8220;not wanting to be a politician&#8221;.  Personally, I find that a virtue, not a flaw.  A wise man once said, &#8220;Any who strive for power should be denied, and power given only to those for whom it is a burden.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bush, for all his faults, understood the limits and responsibilities of the power he wielded as President.  The sad fact is that many of our recent Presidents have been more enchanted with what the Powers of the President allowed them to do, then in what the Responsibilities of the Office required them to not do.</p>
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		<title>By: shrubnose</title>
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		<dc:creator>shrubnose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>63. Just Passing Through:  I am going outside to round up some of my cats to help cover up up what you are spreading. The smell is getting bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>63. Just Passing Through:  I am going outside to round up some of my cats to help cover up up what you are spreading. The smell is getting bad.</p>
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		<title>By: shrubnose</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-bush-impressed-a-west-point-cadet/#comment-194803</link>
		<dc:creator>shrubnose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>63. Just Passing Through You are whistling past the graveyard. You and your kind will soon be in the ash bin of history. Don&#039;t think so ? If you are still around 20 years from now, you will see . You are a LOSER. Continue to live in interesting times until you receive that which you so richly deserve . Have a nice day and the life your karma gives you .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>63. Just Passing Through You are whistling past the graveyard. You and your kind will soon be in the ash bin of history. Don&#8217;t think so ? If you are still around 20 years from now, you will see . You are a LOSER. Continue to live in interesting times until you receive that which you so richly deserve . Have a nice day and the life your karma gives you .</p>
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		<title>By: srgred</title>
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		<dc:creator>srgred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 14:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone really believe this argument is accomplishing anything?  Fortunately, we still live in the United State of America where we have the freedom to voice our opinion, no matter how  who agrees with us. Don&#039;t be fooled...no matter how liberal you are, you cannot get past the fact that this is the direct result of our military protecting our freedoms.  Think history before responding negatively to this comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone really believe this argument is accomplishing anything?  Fortunately, we still live in the United State of America where we have the freedom to voice our opinion, no matter how  who agrees with us. Don&#8217;t be fooled&#8230;no matter how liberal you are, you cannot get past the fact that this is the direct result of our military protecting our freedoms.  Think history before responding negatively to this comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Just passing Through</title>
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		<dc:creator>Just passing Through</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 13:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>West Point Anonymous,

No, you&#039;re a liar. No more a &#039;West Point Anonymous&#039; than I am. I&#039;ll give you that I wasn&#039;t clear about ranging the ages of the cadets 6 years ago, or opening it up to all the cadets. But it&#039;s still 16yo by your rules...

&#039;Many recall how his administration contemptuously, arrogantly and consistently dismissed the advice of military leaders.&#039; - nonsense. Prove it. You can&#039;t because while it&#039;s ok to speak positively of the commander in chief, it is not allowed to do the opposite.

&#039;Eric Shinseki..was on the West Point faculty when Bush visited.&#039; - nonsense. he was not. He was posted there with a ceremonial assignment. 

&#039;Eric Shinseki, who was...forced out as chief of staff for (correctly) predicting anarchy after the invasion...&#039; - nonsense, his job was to advise on then to implement policy, not try to set it and especially not take his case to the public. The last is why he was dismissed.

The rest of your comment was the usual BDS nonsense, but the point is that you know less about West Point than usual, and far less than someone who is a &#039;West Point Anonymous&#039;

Comes back to what I pointed out about shrubnose and the BDS crowd in general.  Claiming to be a well-to-do landowner as a measure of success while disparaging merit economics. Claiming to be &#039;West Point Anonymous;, then coming up with ignorant nonsense. The sad/tragic/comic need driving you both try for the veneer of experience or inclusion to validate your viewpoints. But not self-disciplined enough to prevent your BDS from giving the game away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>West Point Anonymous,</p>
<p>No, you&#8217;re a liar. No more a &#8216;West Point Anonymous&#8217; than I am. I&#8217;ll give you that I wasn&#8217;t clear about ranging the ages of the cadets 6 years ago, or opening it up to all the cadets. But it&#8217;s still 16yo by your rules&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8216;Many recall how his administration contemptuously, arrogantly and consistently dismissed the advice of military leaders.&#8217; &#8211; nonsense. Prove it. You can&#8217;t because while it&#8217;s ok to speak positively of the commander in chief, it is not allowed to do the opposite.</p>
<p>&#8216;Eric Shinseki..was on the West Point faculty when Bush visited.&#8217; &#8211; nonsense. he was not. He was posted there with a ceremonial assignment. </p>
<p>&#8216;Eric Shinseki, who was&#8230;forced out as chief of staff for (correctly) predicting anarchy after the invasion&#8230;&#8217; &#8211; nonsense, his job was to advise on then to implement policy, not try to set it and especially not take his case to the public. The last is why he was dismissed.</p>
<p>The rest of your comment was the usual BDS nonsense, but the point is that you know less about West Point than usual, and far less than someone who is a &#8216;West Point Anonymous&#8217;</p>
<p>Comes back to what I pointed out about shrubnose and the BDS crowd in general.  Claiming to be a well-to-do landowner as a measure of success while disparaging merit economics. Claiming to be &#8216;West Point Anonymous;, then coming up with ignorant nonsense. The sad/tragic/comic need driving you both try for the veneer of experience or inclusion to validate your viewpoints. But not self-disciplined enough to prevent your BDS from giving the game away.</p>
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		<title>By: shrubnose</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/how-bush-impressed-a-west-point-cadet/#comment-194469</link>
		<dc:creator>shrubnose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>60. haibane:  General Shinseki gave Pretzylnitwit Bu$h excellent advice.Mr Bu$h ignored and fired General Shinseki. This was one of the major factors in creating the  &quot; Mess In Mesapotamia&quot; ( ignoring the fact there was no reason to go to war in Iraq, an unnecessary war that caused many thousands of innocent people to die only because they were in Iraq - and has made the USA and the world less safe ).....   You say you doubt &quot;ANY&quot; of the cadets are intellectually lazy.THAT is absurd on it&#039;s face. If you cannot find at least ONE lazy cadet at West Point - YOU are lazy ! ..... I agree with &quot;haibane&quot; on one point - &quot;One persons opinion of what he saw does not automatically create a general consensus&quot;, but I would say : &quot;one persons opinion on what he THINKS he saw does not create a consensus&quot;(notice how my version is concise and correct)..... OK, moving right along - Godwin&#039;s Law -sometimes, I might agree with Godwin&#039;s Law, but only when it is correctly applied. In the case of the Bush family/crime dynasty(take your pick) it does NOT apply. Viz. In Oct.1942 Prescott Bush (GW Bush&#039;s grandfather/der Gottvater) was managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman. On Oct. 20, 1942, the US government ordered the seizure of Nazi German banking operations in New York City which were being conducted by Prescott Bush, under the trading with the enemy act, the US government took over the Union Banking Corp., in which Prescott Bush was a director. ..... Now, I am sure a lot of you conservatives will say the US goverment should not interfere in free trade. But, I say, sometimes to protect our country the government has to step in. Even if the Bush family ( which I highly respect) is involved.....In conclusion, I can only say, I have the highest respect for Pretzylnitwit Bu$h, who did so little and earned so much ! He is an inspiration to slackers all over the world. God Bless America, and don&#039;t spare the cheese. We&#039;ll catch you on the downside, Bushbaby. Or as they say - what, goes around, comes around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>60. haibane:  General Shinseki gave Pretzylnitwit Bu$h excellent advice.Mr Bu$h ignored and fired General Shinseki. This was one of the major factors in creating the  &#8221; Mess In Mesapotamia&#8221; ( ignoring the fact there was no reason to go to war in Iraq, an unnecessary war that caused many thousands of innocent people to die only because they were in Iraq &#8211; and has made the USA and the world less safe )&#8230;..   You say you doubt &#8220;ANY&#8221; of the cadets are intellectually lazy.THAT is absurd on it&#8217;s face. If you cannot find at least ONE lazy cadet at West Point &#8211; YOU are lazy ! &#8230;.. I agree with &#8220;haibane&#8221; on one point &#8211; &#8220;One persons opinion of what he saw does not automatically create a general consensus&#8221;, but I would say : &#8220;one persons opinion on what he THINKS he saw does not create a consensus&#8221;(notice how my version is concise and correct)&#8230;.. OK, moving right along &#8211; Godwin&#8217;s Law -sometimes, I might agree with Godwin&#8217;s Law, but only when it is correctly applied. In the case of the Bush family/crime dynasty(take your pick) it does NOT apply. Viz. In Oct.1942 Prescott Bush (GW Bush&#8217;s grandfather/der Gottvater) was managing partner of Brown Brothers Harriman. On Oct. 20, 1942, the US government ordered the seizure of Nazi German banking operations in New York City which were being conducted by Prescott Bush, under the trading with the enemy act, the US government took over the Union Banking Corp., in which Prescott Bush was a director. &#8230;.. Now, I am sure a lot of you conservatives will say the US goverment should not interfere in free trade. But, I say, sometimes to protect our country the government has to step in. Even if the Bush family ( which I highly respect) is involved&#8230;..In conclusion, I can only say, I have the highest respect for Pretzylnitwit Bu$h, who did so little and earned so much ! He is an inspiration to slackers all over the world. God Bless America, and don&#8217;t spare the cheese. We&#8217;ll catch you on the downside, Bushbaby. Or as they say &#8211; what, goes around, comes around.</p>
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		<title>By: West Point Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>West Point Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just Passing Through:

Please check your arithmetic before calling me a &quot;liar.&quot; Twenty-two minus six is not 14. If you don&#039;t believe me, find a third grader you trust to confirm that. 

Besides the average age of a firstie (senior) is higher than 22. Some firstied served in Iraq before entering West Point nearly four years ago. Some had already graduated from civilian colleges before entering West Point. 

And yes, even if they had been 12, they would really have been precocious. West Point is one of the most difficult colleges in the world to get into. The year that today&#039;s firstied were accepted, it was ranked as the MOST difficult of all schools in America to get into. 

I can imagine how desperately you want to deny things that conflict with the way you want to believe, but you need not call me a liar. Just rely on your faith that whatever you believe is true because you believe it your heart. Twenty-two minus six equals twelve. Sure. Why not? Faith is all you really need. Let me enjoy my own faith that the difference is greater than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just Passing Through:</p>
<p>Please check your arithmetic before calling me a &#8220;liar.&#8221; Twenty-two minus six is not 14. If you don&#8217;t believe me, find a third grader you trust to confirm that. </p>
<p>Besides the average age of a firstie (senior) is higher than 22. Some firstied served in Iraq before entering West Point nearly four years ago. Some had already graduated from civilian colleges before entering West Point. </p>
<p>And yes, even if they had been 12, they would really have been precocious. West Point is one of the most difficult colleges in the world to get into. The year that today&#8217;s firstied were accepted, it was ranked as the MOST difficult of all schools in America to get into. </p>
<p>I can imagine how desperately you want to deny things that conflict with the way you want to believe, but you need not call me a liar. Just rely on your faith that whatever you believe is true because you believe it your heart. Twenty-two minus six equals twelve. Sure. Why not? Faith is all you really need. Let me enjoy my own faith that the difference is greater than that.</p>
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		<title>By: haibane</title>
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		<dc:creator>haibane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To &quot;WP Anonymous&quot;:

Your passing mention of Shinseki&#039;s presence on the West Point faculty is a meaningless non-sequitur.  His only presence at the Academy is the Class of 1951 Chair on Leadership, but he doesn&#039;t actually teach there on a regular basis.

And what crime is there in questioning the media, in understanding bias when you see it?  I doubt that any of the cadets are intellectually lazy whether they believe media bias for or against Bush was actually true.  Your argument is little more than an ad hominem attack.

Third, try and realize that this essay is a generalization.  Of course not everyone will feel this way.  To use anecdotal evidence - &quot;a few firsties&quot; - proves absolutely nothing.  One person&#039;s opinion of what he saw does not automatically create a general consensus.

Fourth, I invoke Godwin&#039;s Law.  Let&#039;s not devolve our arguments into Hitler comparisons, as that only inflames emotion while accomplishing nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To &#8220;WP Anonymous&#8221;:</p>
<p>Your passing mention of Shinseki&#8217;s presence on the West Point faculty is a meaningless non-sequitur.  His only presence at the Academy is the Class of 1951 Chair on Leadership, but he doesn&#8217;t actually teach there on a regular basis.</p>
<p>And what crime is there in questioning the media, in understanding bias when you see it?  I doubt that any of the cadets are intellectually lazy whether they believe media bias for or against Bush was actually true.  Your argument is little more than an ad hominem attack.</p>
<p>Third, try and realize that this essay is a generalization.  Of course not everyone will feel this way.  To use anecdotal evidence &#8211; &#8220;a few firsties&#8221; &#8211; proves absolutely nothing.  One person&#8217;s opinion of what he saw does not automatically create a general consensus.</p>
<p>Fourth, I invoke Godwin&#8217;s Law.  Let&#8217;s not devolve our arguments into Hitler comparisons, as that only inflames emotion while accomplishing nothing.</p>
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