Holder Plays Dumb, Dems Push Gun Control
Testifying before an intensely partisan Senate Judiciary Committee hearing yesterday, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder only deepened suspicions about the Department of Justice’s possible criminal involvement in a gunwalking operation known as Operation Fast and Furious. The scheme saw the federal government provide more than 2,000 firearms to Mexico’s Sinaloa drug cartel.
Holder presented the improbable case that he was not responsible for — or even aware of — the plot:
I have ultimate responsibility for that which happens in the Department, but I cannot be expected to know the details for every operation that is ongoing in the Justice Department on a day-to-day basis. I did not know about Fast and Furious as is indicated in the chart that you have up there until I guess, well, until it became public.
Operation Fast and Furious was run primarily by the DOJ, but involved Obama administration officials spread across four Cabinet-level departments, and included direct links to the White House’s National Security Council.
Attorney General Holder’s claim that he was ignorant of one of the most deadly political scandals in U.S. history, which was run out of his department with key input and the understanding of his top lieutenants, is simply not credible.
Holder used his opening statement to shift the blame to the American gun dealers — whom his Department forced to supply weapons to the cartels — and Congress:
“Unfortunately, earlier this year the House of Representatives actually voted to keep law enforcement in the dark when individuals purchase multiple semi-automatic rifles and shotguns in Southwest border gun shops,” Holder’s written testimony declares. “Providing law enforcement with the tools to detect and disrupt illegal gun trafficking is entirely consistent with the constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens and it is critical to addressing the public safety crisis on the Southwest border.”
It took considerable gall for Holder to make that allegation against Congress: the long-gun reporting requirement he mentioned was suggested by the Department of Justice to combat a problem that they had created with Operation Fast and Furious.
The hearing was full of jaw-dropping moments. For the first time, Holder conceded the obvious fact: Justice was responsible for firearms being “walked” to Mexican drug lords:
“I want to be clear: any instance of so-called ‘gun-walking’ is simply unacceptable,” Holder said in his opening statement before the Senate Judiciary committee. “Regrettably, this tactic was used as part of Fast and Furious, which was launched to combat gun trafficking and violence on our Southwest border. This operation was flawed in concept, as well as in execution. And, unfortunately, we will feel its effects for years to come as guns that were lost during this operation continue to show up at crime scenes both here and in Mexico.”
The concession came after months of the Department’s top officials claiming that just the opposite was true, until the compiled evidence was insurmountable.
Holder also claimed he did not commit perjury in May, when he claimed under oath that he had first heard about gunwalking just weeks before the hearing. Yet a series of five memos addressed to the attorney general were received ten months before, as was a detailed public statement from President Obama and letter from Senator Charles Grassley dated nine months before his testimony.
The attorney general also claimed that he had other “regrets” involving operation Fast and Furious, including a February letter from the Justice Department that blatantly lied and claimed there was never any gunwalking in the operation. Holder also voiced regret that Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was gunned down — though in the testimony’s most shocking moment, he posited that it was not fair to claim Operation Fast and Furious was responsible for Terry’s death. He made this statement despite the fact that the current official story from the DOJ claims the only two weapons recovered from the murder scene were traced to the operation.
As contentious as the hearing became between Holder and several of the minority Republicans on the Senate Judiciary Committee, the Senate’s majority Democrats were almost seditiously uninterested in finding out anything about the plot.
Senators Diane Feinstein (D-CA) and Chuck Schumer (D-NY) dishonestly claimed that the plot was an extension of the Bush-era Operation Wide Receiver. It most decidedly was not, and Holder himself refuted that connection.
Judiciary Committee Chairman Senator Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Feinstein argued that the plot — in which the government forced firearms dealers to give weapons to criminals — justified more gun-control laws.
And in a surreal moment, Senator Al Franken (D-MN) decided the occasion was a wonderful time to discuss the bullying of gay schoolchildren.
Attorney General Eric Holder will not apologize for the deaths of the U.S. federal agents gunned down as a result of the crimes his Department ramrodded, nor will he or his employer, President Barack Obama, accept responsibility or even demand accountability. They incredibly still insist that they don’t know who came up with the operation or know who approved it, even as documentation points directly to men and women in their employment.
Operation Fast and Furious is beyond impeachable. It was a “felony stupid” plot at best, and at worst a treasonous attempt to amplify violent crime in order to subvert the Constitution.
Playing dumb won’t cut it. Relying on an employee/crony to conduct an investigation while leaking information to those she is investigating won’t cut it. Our government is responsible for arming criminals with thousands of weapons, causing hundreds of deaths.
Either Operation Fast and Furious is investigated by an independent counsel, or there is no rule of law in America.
I’ve been disgusted with Holder since his first press conference where he said “hello” and oh, by the way white Americans are cowards for not talking about race enough.
I know Holder meant white folks when he said “nation” because, generally speaking, it is almost impossible to get black Americans to NOT talk about race. Look at any black culture website or film made by a black person and you’ll get the drift. There’s even a science fiction writer who has somehow managed to create black SF.
Americans should be outraged…but they won’t be…because they don’t pay attention
The only time we pay attention is when our check book gets hit…otherwise it’s “let the other guy take care of it”….
There was a election here yesterday.
..17% OF VOTERS TURNED OUT TO “BOTHER” TO VOTE!!! 17%%%% IN THE WHOLE STATE!!
AMERICANS..IN GENERAL WILL BE GETTING NOTHING MORE THAN THEY DESERVE BECAUSE OF OUR LACK OF CARING WHAT THE HELL GOES ON IN OUR COUNTRY BESIDES IN OUR BACK YARD
Wow…it really makes me angry.
If Eric Holder did not know about the gun running tasks of the ATF, why did he give this speech in 2009?
Attorney General Eric Holder at the Mexico/United States Arms Trafficking Conference CUERNAVACA, MEXICO ~ Thursday, April 2, 2009
http://www.justice.gov/ag/speeches/2009/ag-speech-090402.html
Here is another good one for your file!
C-span coverage and more evidence for their indictments!
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/MexicoBor&start=800
and let us not forget, the Obama/Holder DOJ works for, and enforces, any and all civil rights infractions for the black and minority community only. White America has NO protections under this DOJ, they work for minorities only.
THE VERY FIRST DAY I heard about Operation Fast and Furious, I knew,immediately knew,this was a plan first and foremost, designed to allow Obama,Holder, the DOJ and Democrats/Progressives to launch a Fast and Furious attack on 2nd Amendment rights of We The People.Should congress obtain ALL of the paperwork for this initiative (and I very much doubt that),we will find, without a doubt,this was just yet another slimy attempt to manipulate a situation to take one of our most basic of freedoms.
Understand this,those gun shops and dealers WOULD NEVER have made those sales.They would never have sold those guns except that our FEDERAL GOVERNMENT forced them to do so.Our Founders, in their infinate wisdom,knew it was imperative We The People must be able to defend ourselves from a tyrannical government.And make no mistake,IT IS a tyrannical govt that Obama and Holder would just dearly LOVE to institute…but for that sticky little issue of our people armed JUST EXACTLY to protect us from leaders such as Obama.
Holder/Obama are liars and bigots, Leahy, Feinstein, Schumer, shameless career lackeys. Worse than any policies that these troglodytes advocate, is the climate of hatred and reverse discrimination they all embody. “Civil rights” and “feminism” have degenerated into nothing short of code speak for the ongoing state enforced wealth transfer from white men to blacks and women. NOTHING Obama/Holder do is free from this racist subtext. They are slaves to this ideaology, personally and as policy makers. Their corruption is total and subconscious, they will meet their maker as sad and deluded pawns for an ideal that has sown only shame and hostility among peoples.
In my opinion that is elegantly and accurately put; America has fallen onto some hard times and the once only theorized fascism of the Left in America has come to fruition.
As America went from WW II to Korea to Viet Nam thinking they could do no wrong, so too has the once worthy goals of civil rights advocates and feminists degenerated to the point where they are in fact the thing they once used to fight against and it is in no way a pretty sight.
I know this point has been made before, but it is a good one.
It doesn’t matter whether Holder knew about the operation or not. If he didn’t he’s incompetent and should be fired. If he did, then he committed a crime and should be fired.
Either way Holder needs to go.
It does matter if he knew or not. If he did not, he is incompetent, if he did, he should face 200 counts of accessory to murder. Unless of course he decided to inform Congress he was ordered to do it. Then it would be Barrys problem.
Agree with Jefferson. What makes me shudder here is Holder’s mind-set. I believe we’re all capable of this kind of willful stubbornness and disregard – human nature – but for a man that has such responsibility for the lives of other people it caught me a little off guard in some way – call it naivety – since I want to be proud of our leadership and our values in this world.
Never again will this happen; that is, voting for an unbelievably corrupt and willfully destructive administration that cares NOTHING for the future destiny of the U.S.A. They’ve revised history with the same disdain and complete ignorance of the reasons for which America was chosen – right from the beginning when no people were present on the continent.
Bottom line … Holder et al are weak (relying on the old Alynsky lie; that whispers (as in the Devil whispering in our ears) to us that “perception of power is everything”. These people cannot stand … Issa et al are strong and doggedly seek the truth on our behalf … justice is coming to the DOJ and they’re NOT going to like it when it arrives.
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says it all!
“I have ultimate responsibility for that which happens in the Department, but I cannot be expected to know the details for every operation that is ongoing in the Justice Department on a day-to-day basis. I did not know about Fast and Furious as is indicated in the chart that you have up there until I guess, well, until it became public.”
So let me get this straight. If Holder is to be believed, then anybody in the Justice Department can run any operation they want, regardless of how deadly, and he wouldn’t know anything about it. Wow, with that kind of ignorance and poor management, then why would the drug cartels even bother trying to sneak in drugs into this country? All they would really need to do is get a job with the Department of Justice and openly run a program that would let the drugs come into this country. After all, if Holder doesn’t know what’s going on in his own Department, you could get better results in smuggling by just being part of the DOJ!
Holder is a liar, a fraud, and should go to jail for perjury. And what makes this even worse is, just think what the mainstream media would have done to this guy if he was a Republican in a Republican administration. Disgusting.
Agreed. I can sum up his testimony very simply;
” I have ultimate responsibility for that which happens in the department, but I am not going to accept it.”
Jail for perjury? Perhaps hanging for treason would be more appropriate.
He should have been impeached and removed long before now, but there is not the political will to make it happen.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe impeachment is reserved for elected officials, not those appointed.
No dear being a federal officer he most certainly can be impeached if he doesn’t resign or Obama does not fire or replace him.
I really think that the republicans in congress ought to go for a twofer and impeach not only Holder but his boss Obama as well, might want a trifecta and get rid of ole big sis while they are at it!
OK – how about hung, drawn and quartered: the traditional punishment for high treason?
It does an injustice to Americans to let Holder become the sole fall guy whether jailed or hanged (I’m good with either – prefer the latter).
This twisted operation took many devious minds in addition to Holder’s quarter wit.
This is an administration and it’s Democratic party accomplices truly running amok.
Libertyship as usual you are so right. if this had been a republican administration pulling some thing like this the lame stream media and their fiction writers would have them in prison long ago. holder and obama need to be indicted tries convicted and sentenced to 40 years and one day at hard labor,
Real labor? I don’t think they know the meaning of hard work. Why, the shock would kill ‘em. ha
When I was a Sgt in the Marines, I was told that I was responsible for “everything that happened, or failed to happen under my command.”
If a young Sgt has that burden, I fail to see how it doesn’t apply to people higher up the chain.
The money quote came from Leahy. Namely, that the success of F&F in running guns to Mexican drug cartels (technically an act of war against Mexico), by ATF violating U.S. gun laws to make it happen, proves the need for… more gun laws.
By this logic, the way to prove a need for more laws prohibiting murder is for Federal agents to go out and murder innocent civilians. In violation of existing laws defining murder as illegal.
Of course, this is what they essentially did in Mexico, just by remote control.
I have a better idea. Holder needs to be arrested and prosecuted for at least perjury and gross malfeasance in office, and Leahy, Schumer, and Feinstein need to resign their seats. Their “performance” on this committee shows that they are not just partisan, but amoral and detached from reality- in addition to having a gut-twisting, soul-burning contempt for the people they are supposed to serve.
They are as big a disgrace to the Senate as Holder is to the Justice Department.
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I wish Mr. Owens would have touched on the “Operation Wide Receiver = Operation Fast and Furious” aspects of the hearing, the strategy also known as “Bush Did It.”
I have, Greg, in two prior posts here at PJ Media and twice this week at my personal blog, which tried to get Associated Press reporter Pete Yost brought to task for being one of the reporters most responsible for irresponsibly conflating the tow very different operations. Please check my archives here and hop over to bob-owens.com if you would like to read more on this. Thanks!
Senator Fienstein calls this a “mistake” and AG Holder offered “no apology” to the family of Brian Terry, Border Agent. Yet a lack of gun control is the reason we have the mistake (criminal act) and no apology (complete insensitivity). And an AG of hispanic heritage was fired for removing 9 federal prosecutors?
What galls me most is that Holder did not have the common decency to personally contact the Terry family.
It is laughable when Holder pushes for more gun control when he allowed all controls to be dropped for “Fast and Furious”. The man is a liar and should be fired then tried in court and when convicted sent to jail for a long time.
Yawn….what did you say darling? The Cheney-downs people are still pushing the make-believe “Gun Walker” scandal? Oh, I understand why. Let me explain. In their unbendable ignornace they tried to tie the issue of gun violence to an Afro-American President. They tried this because he’s black. Being black, it’s a quick mental jump to all the inner-city gun violence among black people. Guns which are given to them by evil white people, I may add (as is crack and Kools). Therefore, the evil Cheney people think they can somehow tarnish the President by continually harping on this non-story, with the help of the Vast Neo-com Mainstream Media (“VNMM”). What’s that darling? What about Herman Cain? Well honey, why would a bunch of people who drool to drop 500 pound smart bombs onto Afghany children care about how the republitard front runner is a serial pervert? They’re all cups in the same cupboard. They’ll alway love the likes of a Herman Cain, or a Dick Cheney, or a Colonel Sanders. They’re all very, very sick people. I’d say we need to “pray” for them, but that silly stuff doesn’t work. What they need is humane re-education. Now go back to sleep darling.
LE, you should use the /sarc tag. Otherwise, people might think you’re serious.
I’d recommend the “drone” tag otherwise people might get the idea this isn’t the one thousandth post along the exact same lines.
Lovely….
Another hit. Thanks.
You are dumb stupid SOB who knows nothing about the happenings in Washington or any where in the real world. Go hide your head under the nearest rock and suck the air.
Any reference to Obumbles race or skin color is moot beacuse the man is a certifiable moron whatever his origin.
Running guns to crazy Mexican Drug Cartels where,to date, over 200 hundred “innocent” Mexican citizens have been “murdered” amounts to nothing short of……….Racisim!
I’m not so sure racism was the target. Any time anyone supplies weapons of this type to criminals and terrorists of a forgein country, it should be considered an act of war. Barry and his sidekick Holder should be sent to Mexico and tried as war criminals.
Author Owens writes, “Playing dumb won’t cut it.” Unfortunately it probably will. The average person is more likely to know the name of the ambassador to Iceland than to have heard of Holder and his testimony or “Fast and Furious”. The big media is playing dumb and it is paying off.
“The money quote came from Leahy. Namely, that the success of F&F in running guns to Mexican drug cartels (technically an act of war against Mexico), by ATF violating U.S. gun laws to make it happen, proves the need for… more gun laws.”
Yeah, we need more gun laws! I propose one that says the Government can’t write any more gun laws! Oh wait, isn’t that what the Second Amendment is all about?
“This operation was flawed in concept, as well as in execution.”
But they went ahead anyway. The country’s in the very best of hands.
Bob, I think someone ought to fisk the timeline.
Holder “didn’t know” about the operation when it was launched. In other words, an operation that was designed to “bait” drug cartels with superior fire power against law enforcement and citizens on both sides of the border…was hatched without ANY oversight from the White House and DOJ…hmmm.
And, after they lost “tracking” of the guns there was no reporting to the White House or DOJ? Hmmm.
And, after multiple deaths where those guns showed up there was no reporting to the White House or DOJ? Hmmm
And, when one of our own brave law enforcement heroes is gunned down with one of the guns, there is no report alerting the White House or the DOJ? Hmmmmmm.
And, when the backlash against the operation begins to bubble up to the surface (despite the conspiratorial silence by the propaganda machine and Journolista flunkies)…the White House and Holder remain blissfully ignorant and are not briefed on the political nightmare that is about to erupt? Hmmmmmmmm.
So that, Obama and Holder….”Spaz and Spurious”…are in a buddy movie in which they wander around saying “Dude, Where’s My Lethal Weapons”? They don’t know anything about a program designed by leftists to attack the 2nd amendment via a secret plot to point the finger of blame against American gun shops?
They invented a global “warring” trojan horse that was supposed to be rolled back INTO the US in order to advance a leftist “cause celebre”…and want to “hide the decline” of human lives it cost along the way?
And Holder…during the uproar…didn’t know a thing? Obama didn’t know a thing?
This doesn’t pass the smell test…even they poured a vat of Febreze over the top of it. Nobody in their right mind would believe this.
Schumer and Feinstein and Leahy don’t give a damn about any of those lives on the other side of the border…and even less about anyone in uniform on our side of the border.
And here’s the upshot of it. The propaganda machine will spend all of their time on Herman Cain’s hand gestures and a rock at Rick Perry’s property, and Mitt Romney’s haircut. They will bury this story, twist it, distort it and deny the people the truth. Book it, bank it…bet the south forty on it.
Eric Holder is the top law enforcement officer in the land, and it is apparent that he is the most inept one too. But what really bothers me is these politicians on this committee,he continually lies to them and they will not call him on it. A liar is a liar, and calling these lies “misleading” is also a lie. Holder and a great share of the DOJ must go, and if possible to jail.
This event, as well as many others can and eventually lead to Americans losing our 2nd Amendment rights…..and that dovetails with the current FCC takeover of the internet targeting our 1st Amendment rights…..
We all have said “my how time flies”….I fear the next 12 months will pass at the speed of light and we will unfortunately realize too late that what this administration cannot achieve through the House and/or Senate, WILL be achieved through Executive Order……
Be aware America….this is a real and existential threat to our liberties…..
The (resigned in August) US Attorney from AZ, Dennis Burke, sent a letter to the DOJ’s IG yesterday acknowledging he “…leaked a document aimed at smearing Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives agent John Dodson, an Operation Fast and Furious whistle-blower.”
Former US Attorney General admits leaking memo smearing F&F Whistleblower
How do people like Holder, Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Rangel, Sharpton, Jackson and their like become representative of Americans. They are, I believe, ALL lawyers and take an oath/affirm to defend and uphold the US.Constitution. They seem to have a personal, or unprincipled powerful gang, interpretation of the document and their oaths of fealty to it.
Is this what was envisioned in the founding of this nation to make it the exception in the world: protect and defend the RIGHTS of the little people, ALL the little people? Do the little people deserve defending when they permit people like the aforementioned to represent them? Again and again and again?
Is representation by people like them the “final solution” to the idea that the people deserve voice and power over their own lives? Requiring personal accountability of the people they elect to represent them in their civic agencies?
Why do the people tolerate these snubs, this disregard for their dignity, this sneering disdain from these people who are their contracted servants?
How do people like Holder, Obama, Pelosi, Reid, Rangel, Sharpton, Jackson and their like…
Affirmative action ? Vote manipulation ? Endemic insanity in the Bay area ? (Pelosi) Many movers & shakers in Nevada are enmeshed, deal wise, with despicable Harry…
We have a bunch of truly scuzzy people in public life, individuals who play tiny little games in the name of their own worthless personal power.
We have too few actual statesmen and women anymore.
Don’t you know they’re all Lawyers…The only time you can tell they’re lying is when their lips are moving…
If Eric Holder did not know about the gun running tasks of the ATF, why did he give this speech in 2009?
Attorney General Eric Holder at the Mexico/United States Arms Trafficking Conference
CUERNAVACA, MEXICO ~ Thursday, April 2, 2009
http://www.justice.gov/ag/speeches/2009/ag-speech-090402.html
Holder is a communist and a liar. He lies because he knows our useless Congress won’t do anything to him and our socialist Old Media won’t either. He is correct. And that is the problem we will never solve in this country. Face it, we let the federal government get too big and there is no going back on it now.
He’s guilty of at least criminally negligent homicide. Why does Congress not impeach him and remove him from office?
They are all culpable.
Holder is a white-hating, America-hating Marxist, just like Obama. The real trouble is the White House is filled with America-hating Marxists, and that some thirty percent of Americans-by-birth-alone agree with Holder and Obama. What’s to be done with these unpatriotic traitors? We can’t just kill them, at least not until we have an armed revolution.
I’ve opined this before: What I expect to happen is for states to begin to nullify unconstitutional laws, the same as the did in 1859 and 1860. That led to secession then, and could lead to a dissolution of the union we’ve suffered under since 1865.
From the very first, the Obama Administration’s motto was that “No crisis should go to waste.” But the regime has one-upped Alisky and his “Rules for Radicals”. Failing to find the required crisis, they dreamed up “Fast and Furious”, in order to create one.
From the beginning the heart of this dark and deadly fiasco was to attack the Second Amendment and show to the world that more restrictions were needed to weaken our Constitutional rights since American gun shops were selling thousands of weapons to Mexico’s drug cartels.
Looking over the 230-plus years of American history, I can’t name a more corrupt and destructive President than the man we elected in 2008. Please dear God, in Your infinite mercy, give us the strength and the wisdom to correct that mistake.
The legacy of Obama, Holder, and the Democrat Party if major changes do not occur in November of 2012 will be Civil War. The real, bloody, casualty laden kind–not some euphemistic turmoil like the present city park squatters and marches by the angry but indolent and ignorant. It is, I suggest, almost a sure bet–a close to virtual certainty. Only the timing and the magnitude of the bloodshed is open to question. But for some unforeseen reason, should this not come to pass, the United States of America, as it was founded and as it has existed for more than 200 years, will slide into both the future and history as just another cultural failure, noble in conception but susceptible to, and driven by, all of the worst characteristics of human shortcoming. A pity that.
C-span coverage and more evidence for their indictments!
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/MexicoBor&start=800
Obama has said, more than once, that he has great faith in Holder. One wonders how the supposedly ‘brainy’ president can have faith in such a moron.
donna, some questions just answer themselves, don’t they?
Holder spit in America’s face when he side-stepped the opportunity to apologize to Terry’s family
Eric Holder is a bold-faced liar and deserves to be fired for that alone, if not for all his other malfeasances.
You know, when you really think about it, the “gun walking” is just a metaphor for the feds failure to control or militarize the border for years; they just do not call the INS catch and release programs people walking or state sanctioned “human trafficking,” or call the American corporate proclivity to hire illegals black market labor smuggling. It’s curious how amnesty is always called comprehensive immigration reform.
This is actually a two ways knife: If Holder new about OFF then he’s to blame. If not, it shows that he’s incompetent.
Either way he should go.
The only open question is the connection to Obama.
“Holder Plays Dumb, Dems Push Gun Control”
Sounds like an argument against letting Dems near guns.
Holder has been a punk and a criminal since he helped pardon Marc Rich and the Puerto Rican terrorists back in the Clinton administration. unfortunately for us, he’s not going anywhere because Obama loves him.
Keep Gitmo open, close the DOJ.
He doesn’t have to play dumb. Stupid is as stupid does.
its pretty obvious to everyone but the most dense or brainwashed, that these clowns have no, i repeat no respect for our constitution, system of laws, or anything else that makes us uniquely American.
anyone else notice that since this info. on these crimes hit the street, no more deaths have been tied to these guns? f.b.i. controls this info., right?
guns are still out there. probably showing up all over the place now, if it is still being reported.
if anyone was still wondering about a motive for doing this stupid illegal gun running, the dem’s now pitching the idea that even them breaking the law providing guns to murderers and such is still a good reason to ban guns. yeah.
i guess if that boat is sinking anyway, might as well fish off it as long as possible.
I am hoping for the day when Eric Holder and Barack Obama are frog marched out of their federal office building in cuffs, and stuffed into the back seat of a Dodge Charger. Crown Victorias are getting old, and the Chevy Impala is large enough that the U.S. Marshal who is shoving them into the back seat might not bounce their concrete skulls off the roof rail of one of them, but a Charger?
They may have to amputate to get those egos into the car.
The Mexican Govenment should be raising Holy Hell about this. They are in the tank because they really do not care about their citizens getting shot.
It should be all over Spanish Language TV and radio, and I have not seen it.
Holder is the Top-Cop in America. As Attorney General of the US he represents every police officer as their ‘leader’. His ‘employees’ have the best in equipment and SWAT capabilities to keep us safe from ‘crime’. I mean, every squad car across the land (including Mayberry) has an M16 in the trunk, and yet, lawlessness abounds. F&F demonstrates lawlessness at the top with an anti 2A agenda at it’s core, and we’re not supposed to notice?
Holder and “his people” are playing Fast and Loose with guns- be it at the border or southside Chicago. NYC and Chicago vie for first place every year in homicides, both are extremely anti-second amendment cities, and we’re not supposed to notice? Before Heller, Wash. D.C. was right up there too.
If your local police were involved in a plan to increase sobriety checkpoints by authorizing your local 7-11 to pass out booze at a local High School football game, would that be any different? And if one of their officers bounced off the hood of a drunk kid’s car during a stop of another drunk kid- breaks his neck and dies- how does that differ from Brian Terry- the border agent?
See, lawless is a stupid way for any society to go through life. And stupid should hurt and often does. These lessons were learned long ago and laws were written to prevent the ‘hurt’ that comes from being stupid in the first place. As civilians of the Non-Sworn-To-Serve variety, we have a way to express our displeasure with the way our ‘laws’ are being circumvented- our vote. This franchise should never be taken lightly, but it is.
Had I known in 2008 what I know now, about Obama, I’d have done more to convince others not to vote for him. He’s exceeded even my own diminished expectations of him. But, I know this is still America and feel we will eventually survive this Boot-On-The-Neck phase of our history. Chances are we’ll be named for our generation but since ‘Greatest’ is already taken, I’ll settle for Gulag. Future generations may look back at us with empathy. “The democrats lied, the media lied, and their government lied. What were they supposed to do?”
No we won’t survive this wicked chapter of American history, because its not Obama’s and the elitists plan. Every red blooded American had better wake up and realize that O and company are hell bent on killing democracy in America. We are dealing socialist who have no regard whatsoever for for this country and want it drastically changed to suit their agenda. This is REAL and EVERYBODY better put on their fighting shoes, because we will soon be at war with pure evil.
Mr. Holder said, “I did not know about Fast and Furious as is indicated in the chart that you have up there until I guess, well, until it became public.” This statement in itself is scandalous. He has a department reporting to him that is responsible for the deaths of many people, and he reads about it in the news?…yes, it does strain the credibility factor…
Oh and then of course, there’s the part about being complicit, fostering and facilitating MASS MURDER! Those involved should be merely fired from their jobs?
Who said Holder was playing dumb?
Gunwalker represents tyranny we face in a nut shell.
It can never be let go.
Never buried.
Every body in this great nation has to know of it and understand what it represents.
All of us are like the pig, committed. Whether you like it or not, believe it or not or want it or not.
We All balance on a knife’s edge between tyrannical rule, peaceful redress, or armed revolution.
And because so many of us have our collective heads up our arses, politics of today have evolved into an instrument of tyranny.
The ruling elites crooks and traitors running the show will never give up the power and gold they have stolen.
Just ask them.
Go ahead.
You know the answer, just as I do.
Gonna be a fight.
Up the tyrants arses.
Lets Win!
Gunwalker represents tyranny we face in a nut shell.
It can never be let go.
Never buried.
Every body in this great nation has to know of it and understand what it represents.
All of us are like the pig, committed. Whether you like it or not, believe it or not or want it or not.
We All balance on a knife’s edge between tyrannical rule, peaceful redress, or armed revolution.
And because so many of us have our collective heads up our arses, politics of today have evolved into an instrument of tyranny.
The ruling elites crooks and traitors running the show will never give up the power and gold they have stolen.
Just ask them.
Go ahead.
You know the answer, just as I do.
Gonna be a fight.
Up the tyrants arses.
Lets Win!
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg and Deputy Attorney General David Ogden held a news conference to announce the U.S.-Mexico Border Security Policy.
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/MexicoBor&start=800
I hope Holder goes before Judge Trymanfrym
I can’t believe Sen. Leahy who comes from a very liberal state and the state with the least amount of gun control in the nation could be for gun control. How could he go against the will of the people unless he represents the democratic party and not the people of Vermont. They should vote him out now or even a recall.
I do not understand why the investigators on this judicial hearing do not arrest this feeble excuse for an Attourney,lock him up and throw the jail away. He is a terrorist sympathizer and a clear andpresent danger to the free people of America.
Impeach Holder, prosecute him, EXECUTE him!
Holder playing dumb is easy for him, not much substance to begin with!
Just seeing this “top law officer” on television make me feel like puking. He is the “top criminal” and a lackey of obama who has to be complicit in this. The overt racism and arrogance is stunning from the two. They both need to be jailed for their criminal acts and unconstitutional rule. Treason is treason and they are guilty.
Holder was not playing dumb, that is his natural state.
It boggles the mind that in light of all the e-mail evidence to the contrary his is claiming ignorance of the entire operation. This after numerous heads up e-mails sent to his own e-mail address! The man should be forced to resign for allowing this program to continue. Even giving him the benefit of the doubt in his claim that he was not aware of the program until it became public, he should be forced out for criminal negligence and incompetence. Unfortunately, this sort of behavior has become the norm of the Obama administration, and the press allows it to continue without exposing the rot as the press is supposed to do.
ITS BEEN MY EXPERIENCE (32 YEARS IN LAW ENFORECEMENT) THAT IN A CASE LIKE THIS (NUMEROUS SUSPECTS) WHEN YOU START PUTTING THE BRACELETS ON AND MAKE THEM DO THE PERP WALK, OTHERS INVOLVED WILL START CONTACTIOG THE INVESTIGATORS (IN THIS CASE ISSA OR GRASSLEY) FOR A DEAL AND WILL SING LIKE LITTLE BIRDS IN A CAGE.
ERIC HOLDER HAS NO BUSINESS BEING AFFILIATED WITH ANY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY LET ALONE THE HIGHEST ONE IN THE COUNTRY. BOTH HE AND THE LIAR IN CHIEF HAVE A HARD TIME WITH THE TRUTH.
MOST COPS AND I WAS ONE OF THEM WOULD RATHER DIE THAN LIE ON THE STAND WHEN TESTIFYING IN COURT AND DETEST ANYONE THAT DOES.
THIS FAST AND FURIOUS PROGRAM WAS DONE FOR ONE REASON , TO JUSTIFY GUN CONTROL IN THE USA.THE SAME THING WAS DONE IN GERMANY BY HITLER.
WOW, those last few lines of this article were dynamite, yes this is more than an impeachable offense, and a treasonable attempt to subvert the constitution
but lets not forget they and they alone are responsible for the deaths that have resulted from this highly illegal act and cover up, and now they implicate Democratic Senators in obstruction of justice for aiding the stone walling by impeding the investigation, with irrelevant questions, and belittling the honorable intent of this panels sworn duty and obligation.
As long as ungodly men & women are in a position of power, and continue to turn their backs on God, this country will continue to spiral downward. The simple answer is found in 2 Chronicles 7th chapter 14th verse. Darkness never overcomes light – Only light can overcome darkness.
I HATE WITH ALL THAT’S IN ME, THESE BASTARDS TRYING TO BRING ABOUT THE NWO. These cagado puppets are filth & dung
I don’t believe Holder was “dumb” at all. He had this whole thing set up to shift blame on to the gun dealers right from the start at the request of the Brady Gun Control advocates; so they could entertain enacting even more strict gun controls. That’s my opinion. As far as him resigning from his position…..I doubt he’ll do it and Obama sure isn’t going to tell him to leave. The Administration will continue to obfuscate,refuse to comply with the congressional committee subpoenas and block the investigation in any way they can until it dies of old age.
Hide and watch. Holder will skate and be around to deal us more misery. I don`t think congress has the “guts” to do anything except put on a show. I wish they would get rid of him.
Liberals play death, dumb, blind and stupid all the time when things are not convenient for them.
indict, prosecute and convict all who knew about F&F and allowed it to go forward for being accessories to mass murder.
This goes to prove that NO ONE in this Administration is going to accept responsibility for ANYTHING and always find a way to blame some one else. It is becoming the new American past-time!!! They all need to go and Frankenstein (CA)and Schithead (NY)along with Barney Sweet cheeks need to go!!!!
If I had gone to grade school with Al Franken I would have beat the crap out of him.
If Mr. Holder did not know what was going on, then he should be fired for not doing his job. If he did know and then lied under oath then he should be shot for treason.(Or whatever we do now to trators.) I have a better idea lets have him camp out on the US side of the Mexican border for a couple weeks without his security.
Mexico has ask that all involved be tried in Mexican courts. Not sure this wouold be fair or a good president. But the Mexican drug lords are trying to take over the goverment of Mexico therefor supply them with guns is an act of war against Mexico and a crime against huminity on both sides of the border. Holder should be tried at the Hage for war crimes and crimes against huminity and if it can be proved that Oboma knew about it which he undoubtly did he should be tried also.
Anarchy and Caos could break out at any time with violence that makes the Democratic Convention at Chicago in ’68 look like a picnic and Obama and his propoganda ministry (made up of NBC and the other MSM) would simply blame it on the same tired old scape goat: the “rich” and GW Bush. The Mexican news media does not pursue the “Fast and Furious” story because it doesn’t fit into their “open border agenda”. That, and the fact that their scared of the Cartel’s reprisals. Lets face it, Mexico is now being run by the Cartels. Living in a Texas border town in 2011 must resemble life in Dodge City during the Wild West years. Corruption and lawlessness running rampant.
Fast and Furious and the UN Small Arms Treaty are just ploys that Obama and his group are trying to use to get around the second admendment. We have more gun laws than are necessary but they wnat the ultimate–no guns at all for the public. Only criminals and the police will have them. And if you don’t believe that Obama knew about FAF then there’s a bridge in Broolyn I sell you.
clearly the agenda is to abolish the second amendment of the Constitution, which can only be an attempt to disarm legal law abiding American citizens. To which the only history we have to relate to is a total Government take over, as in pre WW ll Germany and post WW ll Czechoslovakia which was followed by an invasion by Russia. Could this possibly be the first move before a Government take over, this President is acting more and more like a dictator, don’t fall for the supposed reasons to fight crime or control the flow of guns to criminal interests domestic or foreign. History repeats itself, that fact of the truth can be easily proven.
Each of us must contact our congressional representatives and DEMAND a Special Prosecutor be appointed regarding this matter, immediately. There is no other reasonable means of dealing with it, for now. Give the Special Prosecutor all the power he/she requires to get to the heart of F & F, including immediate seizure of all potentially-related documents, wherever they may be and in 100% un-redacted form, lest some new version of Sandy Berger comes out of the woodwork and “accidentally” destroys crucial evidence. And lets also convene a Federal Grand Jury to begin rolling out indictments based on the evidence as it begins to reveal the criminal nature of F & F, giving immunity to all BATFE officials to speed things along. Those two efforts, working together (if at all possible and allowed by law) will result in getting at the truth. All we want is the truth, no more and no less, for the truth will speak for itself.
I am still wondering why all the focus has only been on the Mexican gun running while the other two projects released three times as many weapons also inside the United States as well as foreign nations and the president knew about it all the time:
Rahm Emanuel reports that he knew about the operations while he was at the White House. Not only high caliber weapons but conversion kits to make semiautomatic weapons full auto, and explosives as well and the makings for grenades and an uncounted number of rocket launchers.
Operation Gunrunner–in which the government authorized the sale of weapons with the intent of letting these weapons fall into the hands of Mexican drug cartels, which were used to Kill an American border agent.
Operation Castaway–in which the government authorized the sale of weapons knowing they would fall into the hands of Honduran gangs, such as MS13 and the Mara Salvatrucha and the rival Mara 18, An estimated 20,590 people died violently here in the last five years, according to the Madrid-based nonprofit Observers of Violence in massive shoot outs to control the drug industry.
Project Gangwalker the ATF and the DOF allowed the straw purchases of weapons which eventually ended up in the hands of United States gang members in Indiana” Operation Community Shield,” individuals are from El Salvador, three are from Mexico, one is from Honduras and one is from Haiti. ICE said the individuals are members or associates of the following street gangs: MS-13, Sur-13, and Zoe Pound. Charged in connection with the shooting of an Indianapolis police officer last week are gang members, the Marion County Prosecutor’s Office Gonzalez-Ramirez is a member of the Puros Vatos Locos street gang, and Taboada-Perez is a member of the SCT-13 gang. Both have tattoos that express allegiance to those gangs, authorities said. and other weapons have been found at crime scenes in that state and surely have spread out from there to other gangs.
Ethical Lapses at PSU, Ethical Void in D.C.
A course in ethics was a requisite for a B.A. at Fordham University in the 1960′s and I have to confess I probably semi-slept through it.
It’s apparent that Ethics 101 either wasn’t required at Penn State University or that Nittany Lions coaches also slept through it. Meanwhile, in Washington, President Barack Hussein Obama has made such a farce of ethics in the federal government it’s hard to believe he understands the meaning of the word.
Ethics was a tough subject although its essence can be reduced to the study of moral principles and their applicability to rules of conduct.
Dictionary.com provides a more detailed definition: “That branch of philosophy dealing with values relating to human conduct, with respect to the rightness and wrongness of certain actions and to the goodness and badness of the motives and ends of such actions.”
In turn, that definition can be summarized to doing the right thing just because it is the right thing to do.
Many wrongs are associated with recently-publicized events at PSU. Some may be termed ethical lapses of omission. They include Coach Joe Paterno’s failure to notify law enforcement authorities, university administrators covering up perfidious behavior, and Coach Mike McQueary’s grossly negligence in not interceding on behalf of a 10 year old boy being raped in a school shower room.
The most profound ethical failures committed have been attributed to Coach Jerry Sandusky, illegalities and moral tupitude which allegedly continued for some 15 years, from his initial molestations of young boys to McQueary’s witnessing Sandusky violating the ten year old.
Both Sandusky and McQueary are Penn State graduates but so too are the other 557,000 alumni of that immense and still great school. A few rotten apples can spoil a barrelful but a handful can’t spoil an outstanding university. Now that they have been exposed, they will be prosecuted and victims will be compensated even if that compensation can never wipe clear the memories of what they suffered.
Similarly, an unethical American president can stink up the White House but he can’t spoil a nation.
Obama and the administration he leads have been caught in numerous ethical breaches but, thanks to his mainstream media and stonewalling lackeys, so far they have gotten away with such breaches and only time will tell whether they ultimately ”come home to roost,” to quote his pastor of 20 years. . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=5954.)
your a fool!