Hillary Flunks Out
It wasn’t meant to be this way, of course. She was billed as the competent one, unburdened by ideology and diligent in the extreme. True to her “A” student reputation she studied up for her confirmation hearings and impressed all with how hardworking and responsible she was. One would have thought she was up for a Girl Scout merit badge (neat in appearance, prepared for any eventuality, ever cheerful, and so on), not for the job of architect of American foreign policy.
But that reputation for competency has been of course entirely unearned. She was the one who bollixed up HillaryCare by designing an exquisitely complicated government take-over of health care and then refusing to compromise. It was she who ran an “experience” campaign in a “change” election and made no plans for securing caucuses in key states or devising a post-Super Tuesday strategy. The gal with the sterling reputation for achievement has a record littered with failure.
At this rate, her tenure at the State Department is likely to be the capstone on a career of fumbles and misjudgments. The very same qualities which resulted in prior failures — an inability to see the big picture, stubbornness verging on arrogance, and excessive reliance on a coterie of like-minded advisors — plague her once again.
And whatever muscular foreign policy ideas she displayed in the campaign (most clearly on Iran) and her heretofore strong support for Israel have been sacrificed for the sake of getting along with Obama. She has, in short, not lived up to the expectations and hopes of many moderates and conservatives that she would bring a toughness toward foes and some common sense to an administration badly lacking in both.
Aside from the utter hash she has made of American foreign policy (to the extent she designed it or at least vouched for it) she has done a fine job undermining any future political ambitions she still clings to. (And this is Hillary we are talking about, so we can be certain she is still clinging to dreams of that Clinton restoration.) Somehow I suspect her Israel record won’t go over well with Jewish voters, and her Honduras calamity might be hard to explain to Hispanic voters. And of course, failure and incompetence are hard to explain to everyone.
Had she stayed in the Senate, she might have inherited the mantle of liberal leadership from Ted Kennedy. Clinton might have been the one to pull a rabbit out of the hat to save health-care reform. But once again her ambition got the best of her and her self-image of super-smart, super-capable policy wonk led her to a poor career choice. Now, politics is filled with second and third acts, and maybe her political career will recover. But I’m not sure her reputation ever will.
“she has done a fine job undermining any future political ambitions she still clings to.”
I doubt that… no one is even watching her and she will blame everything on obama… she could start a war and its doubtful that would even dent her pretty little imagine.
Its all bush’s and obama’s fault and shes not going to say anything else on the matter… and a huge section of the population will believe it.
I’ve never understood why Hillary took the position of SoS in the first place. You are right–she could have been a real force in the Senate, where she was widely respected and could have continued to build a political power base. Now she is but a marginal player in a faltering administration that is quickly becoming a laughingstock on the foreign policy front.
Over the past few weeks I’ve heard/read many wistful comments intimating that the country would be far better off today with Hillary in the Oval Office. There has actually been speculation that she is carefully watching Obama’s declining poll numbers and considering a possible primary challenge in 2012. If she was indeed looking for an exit from this hapless and increasingly unpopular admininstration, she missed a fantastic opportunity with Obama’s embarrassing about-face on missile defense in Eastern Europe. I was half hoping she’d announce that she disagreed so strongly with his decision that she was resigning on principle.
It couldn’t have left her in any worse position that she is in now. Anyone familiar with Barry and his arrogance and ego always knew that he would blame her for the foreign policy failures, and take the credit for the successes. Not that it looks like there will be any of the latter.
“” …. Clinton, 61, sometimes seems torn between her “inclination” to “lead” and her need to “function effectively” within the administration, creating a certain tension between her aspirations and her status ….”
Back in her recidivistic, treasonous, lying, looting, thieving, mass-murdering co-serial-rapist Cli’ton-Crime-Family “health-care” czarina days, the most-often-heard complaint from those having to work around her (particularly those of them who’d ever had jobs, met payrolls, been responsible to profits — that sort of stuff) — was not that she was too stupid to ever provide the solution — but that she was too damned dumb to have even understood the question.
Meanwhile, last Sunday, her sycophant, Ms Stepalotonus, fired off a couple of shots in the 2012 “Democratic” potty Primary.
I remain an admirer of HRC and also wish she would have stayed in the Senate and outside of this administration. Her instinct and inclination to turn it down the first time may yet prove to have been the wisest course for her. I believe in her abilities and she has always been a staunch supporter of Israel. Some of the things I’ve heard her say recently on a range of issues sound more like the party line than her views.
I also remain convinced that she would have been a better President than Obama. And so would have McCain.
“Had she stayed in the Senate, she might have inherited the mantle of liberal leadership…”
And if the frog hadn’t stopped to swallow all of the BBs, he wouldn’t keep bumping his butt in the dirt instead of flying..
So far her choices of men doesn’t speak very well for her judgement.
It is only because Obama is such a loser that rational individuals can drum up any sympathy for this pathetic individual.
She is just another sleazy Ivy League lawyer that road the coat tails of another dirtbag politician to power. We have been treated to eight years of spin as to what a wonderful individual she is and that she was just “misunderstood” when she was in Bill’s shadow.
The fact that New Yorkers, who would vote for Osama bin Laden if he was labeled a liberal Democrat, were stupid enough to buy the spin and put her in the Senate should have little weight for the rest of the country. Look at all the other dirtbags they have given us, Schumer, Rangel et al. Hillary is no different.
No sympathy here. She can go home and bake cookies for Bill…if she knows where he is.
One of Obama’s brilliant moves was to marginalize the Clintons. Making Hillary secretary of state also wound up corralling Bill because her position required him to back of the international scene to a great degree. Whether it was Obama or one of his aides who came up with this strategy you got to hand it to him. Totally neutered the opposition by using her ego against her.
She can’t run against him now, she can’t resign and she has no voice, its a beautiful thing.
She had a reputation?
She started flunking out when she met and married Bill!
What a disaster these to are.
Hillary Clinton was suckered by Obama. A host of moderately conservative columnists were, too. (See: http://emmeffemm.com/id152.html) At least with respect to the “journalists,” however, the damage wasn’t fatal to their careers (only to their reputations).
Hillary is now in a very bad place. She is completely inconsequential in her current role, and there don’t seem to be any good alternatives. If she quits, she will be out of government altogether. And, if she runs against her party’s incumbent in 2012, she’ll be labeled a traitor (unless, of course, Obama has so disgraced himself by then that few partisans care).
Ted Kennedy got away with running in the primaries in 1980 against Jimmy Carter without lasting political harm. Still, he didn’t succeed. The Dems stuck with Carter, even though it meant disaster in the general election against Ronald Reagan.
No doubt about it, Hillary was buffaloed by members of Team Obama. They gave her a title, but no gravitas. They dont’ even let her influence (much less establish) foreign policy.
Husband Bill rose from the ashes. Perhaps Hillary can, too. But the odds are definitely against her.
This article was written by a little green frog with a firecracker lit in her ass.
Be nice. Hillary is doing the best that she can.
Hillary is what she is, educated,ambitious, not a very clever arrogant goddess she tries to be. Morally devoid and a typical liar as seems to be a trait amongst her peers(and mate).
Obama has been measuring Hillary’s tread footprint to make sure the tires on his bus are wide enough to squash her completely.
Someone still has to tell me who thought it was a good idea to pull missiles out of Poland on the 70th anniversary of the Russian invasion of Poland during World War II. Did that bright idea come from the White House (which would be bad enough), or from the State Department (which would have been much, much, worse because they are being PAID to be sensitive to those types of foreign policy blunders)? Obama and Clinton have been an utter disaster on the foreign policy front and the year isn’t even over yet. North Korea is ignoring us when it comes to making more nuclear weapons and spreading its deadly technology around the world. Iran is laughing its ass off at us when we “threaten” to take them to, of all places, the United Nations to “force” them to stop their nuclear program. Yep, that AND a strong letter to the New York Times will change some minds in Iran. Hamas and Hezbollah are still a deadly menace to Israel, but we shouldn’t worry about that because we’re dealing with that problem by actually calling out and leaning on ISRAEL, one of the only reliable allies we have in the entire region. Oh, and now we’re actually supporting the idea of putting a communist (and a friend of Chavez) back in power in Honduras. I guess these are all examples of “smart” power Obama and Clinton were talking about during the election. But we really shouldn’t be worried, though. After four years of this we won’t have any democratic allies left but we will be loved by some of the worst dictators in the world, such as Castro and Chavez. I’m just waiting for the next Apology Tour Obama is going to make. Maybe he’s going to apologize to Switzerland next because we’re not eating enough of their chocolates or to Italy for not eating enough of their pasta. You just never know who we’ll have to grovel and crawl to next. Can anyone say, “Jimmy Carter?”
Her problems are typical of almost all high-ranking pols. Specifically a total belief that their mere presence is enough to resolve any issue, and any disagreement is, by definition, wrong. Add to this the fact that “THE ONE”, has sent her on relatively minor state-related issues to keep her out of the way, and his appointment of individuals for each international issue who, apparently have the ability and power to override the S of S and you have exactly what you are seeing now.
Now that she’s been screwed by a black man, can she ever go back to Bill?
Great article! Which once again reminds me that the choices on both the Dem and Republican sides in the past presidential primary and general elections were a joke. Even though all three were running to be the nations chief executive, Obama and Clinton, along with John McCain, all lacked executive and chief executive experience in both the private and public sectors. In other words, not one of them had EVER made a decision at the executive level in which they were responsible for the results. Hillary Clinton and John McCain ran on “reputations” the so-called MSM built up for them, as Jennifer Rubin states of Hillary “She was billed as the competent one, unburdened by ideology and diligent in the extreme.” And yet, HRC had never been in charge of the corner coffee shop much less the Governor of a state. Same with McCain. As for Obama? He was a total blank slate. His entire life and legislative experience was given a gloss and sheen by the so-called MSM until he probably didn’t recognize himself in the mirror. Turns out Obama, like Hillary, are a couple of empty-suits that know how to study for an exam, they just don’t know how to make tough decisions or lead an organization. And Americans are stuck with both for the next few years.
Lady Hillary represented the hopes and dreams of feminists everywhere, at least on the East and West coasts. In the middle she wasn’t so much liked. And we shouldn’t ignore the fact that her only qualification for the Senate was her conjugal relationship with Bubba. Neverthless, she was the obvious presidential choice for frustrated women across this great land. But, alas, she ran a lousy campaign and was out-maneuvered by an unqualified freshman Senator with absolutely no achievements or experience (unless being articulate, physically attractive and black is now considered the prerequisites for the office of president).
Her decision to accept the role of Secretary of State was a heads-up vis a vis the limitations of her judgement. She certainly must have realized that the post would be compromised by her husband, Bubba, prancing around the world, spouting off as is his wont. And if she believed that she could exert a major influence on Ther One, and his cadre then she is a bigger fool then I thought.
obama in a skirt.
“But nothing quite tops her Honduras foray.”
Backing a freely elected president – outrageous! What Honduras needs is a lesson in democracy, American style!
How did she ever get the reputation for competence in the first place? The only reason she got where she is, is that she was married to a successful politician. She achieved nothing on her own. The New York Senate seat was handed to her while her husband was still President, a state that she had never lived in, but was more important than that hicksville, Arkansas. That Senate seat was understood to be nothing more than a place to hang her hat until she got ready to make her own Presidential run. And when she did, she turned out to be such a god awful politician that she got thoroughly blindsided by a political novice with no ideas who ran a campaign based on nothing but image and cliches. If she couldn’t beat Obama, how is she supposed to stand up to Putin? Hillary is a thoroghgoing incompetent, one of the most overrated politicians in history.
Never thought the day would come when these two Clinton hucksters would be looked back at with sympathy.
Just another sign it’s all over, and no white knight will come from the center or the right.
She’s nothing but a rich 60s brat (think Bill Ayres & Co.) who, without sufficient intellectual resources of her own, teamed up with a Billy Sunday type American con-artist for a free ride to power.
Bill can call for some respect. Hilary badly needs ridicule she never gets.
Ain’t it grand? Political correctness and affirmative action allow the dregs to rise to the top. Oh well, she would have been worse in the top job although I’m not sure how anyone could be worse than the incumbent.
she is being played.
she has to toe the administrations line.PERIOD.
she probably cannot even shake her minders. I doubt she is allowed to do anything about anything. I am sure she is watched and “nudged” by obama’s lackies.
she should have stayed in the senate …but she didn’t. so she will just be a footnote in a history book.
BIBLIO44:
Yup. Backing a ‘freely elected president’, who attempted to subvert his country’s Constitution, and was prevented from doing so by his country’s Supreme C ourt. I can see how that might grate on you. A nation’s laws, after all, are meant to be applied to the ordinary folk. The pols are special people. Sort of like the current crop of Democrat legislators, cabinet members and czars seem to think. Anyhow, the Constitution is a ‘living document’, sort of like an amoeba that you Dems like to squish about and reshape. Yup. I understand where you’re coming from, comrade.
In all fairness, I can’t name a Secretary of State I ever respected in that role save Kissinger. Henry was a jerk, but he was our jerk and he pushed our policies to the limit.
The best of the rest were worthless. The worst were laughingstocks. Powell was a backstabber. Albright was a clown. Condi was rolled by her own State Department.
Clinton is ineffective, but look at the man she works for. Is it possible to be tough when you represent a waffling wuss? I have nothing but contempt for the woman, but in all fairness, success was never possible.
I think she’s waiting until after the debacle of the 2010 elections to resign “in good conscience” and announce her candidacy for Prez in 2012 to save/restore the Deomcrat majority. I think she’s realized how marginalized her SoS position has become by Obama’s appointments (roadblocks?) of special envoys for the real great hotspots where any success would make her shine. She should have stuck to the senate and sided with the moderate and Bluedog Dems. Just shows she’s not too bright in getting suckered like this.
172. Clinton, Hillary. Wife of President William Jefferson Clinton. Mrs. Clinton led a failed program to bring socialized medicine to the United States in the latter 1990s. Though she had only the flimsiest record of ever having lived in the state of New York, New York’s voters elected her to the United States Senate. She was later named Secretary of State by President Barrack Hussein Obama, from which position she retired from public service with the election of a Republican President in 2012.
How many of her public statements and activities are now scripted by Obama? Probably most, if not all. Of course, she should object or resign, but her political orientation is rather like Obama’s, so she may not mind taking these particular orders.
On the other hand, she also wants real power. She may decide to quit, after all, if Obama’s diplomacy becomes enough of a failure.
..if Shrillary was smart she would resign …point of the administrations failings and campaign for 2012.
it would be a gamble since the democrat party is still very much in love with the half-white poser.
no risk no gain
Hillary should resign. However, what communist would Obama put in her place? She could be governor of New York!!..you lucky guys..
Obama dealt with Hillary and Bill in one step. He put her in a position that has had no meaning to the world.
She wants to be important, Obama has made Hillary irrelevant, completely and unequivocally.. irrelevant. I almost feel sorry for her.
31. Gracie
She wants to be important, Obama has made Hillary irrelevant, completely and unequivocally.. irrelevant. I almost feel sorry for her.
obama is making the USA irrelavant. I feel sorry for america.
There is only one real flaw in this Hillary profile: She couldn’t really bank on Ted Kennedy dying in the first year of the Obama administration.
I have never been able to understand why people say Obama and Hillary are sooooo smart. If they are so smart, why do their track records sucketh? My proposal for why they are not smart is basically that they lack character and wisdom:
There is a difference between knowledge and wisdom. There is a difference between making decisions based on moral principles and being a slave to an ideology. There is a difference between showy rhetoric and the necessary thankless tasks of doing your job (think congress and their failure to deliver a budget once again). As all well know, these types of comparisons could probably be made ad infinitum. I rest my case.
34. sjb
you are describing a NARCISSIST …both of these humanoids are narcissists.
I agree they are not smart. and they are ideologs too.
..basically they are just dishonest and morally bankrupt.
welcome to africa
Obama did the nation a favor by getting Hillary to accept the SoS position. His failure as president (if a Republican Congress doesn’t salvage his presidency like it did for Clinton) will basically end her political career on the national level. She can point fingers at Obama all she wants but the response will be “why didn’t you push harder for better policies?”
She’s done. Good riddance to bad rubbish.
Bottom line re Honduras:
Barry and Hillary both like lefty thugs. Lefty thugs get away with doing stuff that nasty ol’ Constitution keeps Barry and Hillary from doing.
#30 does have a point, if she were to resign now or soon and start campaigning while pointing out the Obama administrations errors she could salvage things. That however is a risky strategy. It could further marginalize her by turning the Dems against her for good leaving her permanently in the wilderness. The Dems could maintain their love affair with Obama, even as he tanks hard and then blame her for splitting the party in 2012 even though he has no chance of getting elected even if she didn’t run; or 2010 could bring in a Republican majority in the House or Senate (possibly both) and Obama pulls back to center out of necessity and salvages his Presidency. It would work if Obama continues to do worse than Carter though.
#13
“She should have stuck to the senate and sided with the moderate and Bluedog Dems.”
That is an excellent point. Hillary Clinton probably regrets that she did not remain in the U.S. Senate—and become the leader of the blue dog Democrats. I expect Barack Obama will not to finish out his term. He’s likely going to have a mental breakdown. Clinton has probably blown any realistic chance of taking advantage of this golden opportunity.
She have always done her best to look smart, wise, capable and experienced, but it’s all a performance. How could anybody still believe she’s such a big deal after seeing how an even less qualified amateur-nobody outmaneuvered her so easily, all the way, out of a presidential nomination she had in her hand.
…and then she falls for a trick used by kings and tyrants for ages: offer to opponents positions that look important, then neutralize them by making them irrelevant.
Like so many americans..I grow weary over “despots” holding power…and for the past 20+ years…Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton… brings me down. Which was one reason I liked Obama winning, at least it broke the chain.
Secratary of State. Well, in my opinion Clinton could not lose. She had everything to gain by taking the job. Think about it. Who did she inherit the job from? Condi, the super neo-con, american heritage..lets make everyone in the world just like us, Rice…..sheesh, a peanut could have succeeded after that. But, your article is three+ years too early, she just got the job so I have no opinion. yet.
Hillary is just one more incompetent in an administration rife with them. One more person who is hurting,not helping our country. By the time these Far Left Thugs get through with it, we won’t recognize America.
2. MP51 wrote:
If she was indeed looking for an exit from this hapless and increasingly unpopular admininstration, she missed a fantastic opportunity with Obama’s embarrassing about-face on missile defense in Eastern Europe. I was half hoping she’d announce that she disagreed so strongly with his decision that she was resigning on principle.
Peter writes: The only problem with that plan is she would likely expect to be able to walk right back into her Senate seat, because anyone knows this country can’t function without a Clinton somewhere in the government, right?
I would love to see her face in that situation when NYS would tell her, “You resigned. The position has been filled. Thanks for asking. See you again some other time.”
Or do you think NYS, like MA, would change the rules in the middle of the game and make it so they could ‘appoint’ the Hill back into her seat over the current occupant?
Poor Folk, you might be interested in this. It turns out the wannabe dictator of Honduras that Obama and Hill are backing is a crazy wannabe dictator.
http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2009/09/zelaya-insane.html
Shrillary cemented her place in the history of stupidity when she put together that nuclear ‘reset’ button for the Russians that was mistranslated to read ‘overcharged’ (as in “about to blow”). That was, without any doubt, one of the dumbest moments in all of human diplomacy. After that, it was clear that Shrillary is about as dumb as they come and could be counted on to make terrible decision after terrible decision. Most of us suspected that she was this retarded when she accepted the SecState position, but to see it display itself so well with the ‘reset’ button fiasco was more than anyone could have expected.
One thing I will say for Shrillary – she has no sense of shame, whatsoever. Any normal human being would have hidden after making such a fool of himself in public, but it just seemed to whet Shrillary’s appetite for public embarrassment. Her move on Honduras was expected after this, and she delivered magnificently. Wait until you see her next position. It’ll make your head spin.
@46
LOL – Very good! And never fear, we haven’t heard the last of her, not by a long shot. Her ambition knows no bounds, and there are NO depths to which she will not sink.
“Sic transit gloria mundi!”
44. No, she can’t just get re-appointed to her Senate seat, but she could try to win it back in the 2010 Special Election (good luck with that).
SOS Hillary Clinton is a marginalized figure largely due to President Obama’s czar fills Hillary’s position making her role redundant; with the czar removed, Hillary’s marginal role will be realized. However, Hillary Clinton is out of place as SOS since she lacks any true worldly knowledge to represent the Obama Administration. Hillary should be shouting to the walls an SOS as SOS given Obama’s Administration is one big horrible train wreck thus far. Anyone associated with Obama will be radioactive in due time. Clinton should remove herself from the fray ASAP. She should have stayed in the Senate.
24: “she would have been worse in the top job although I’m not sure how anyone could be worse than the incumbent.”
This raises an interesting question. Who would have been worse: Hillary or B. Hussein? At this point, I’d have to say B. Hussein. Given that Hillary has bungled everything she’s touched — and why not, she is as unqualified and unexperienced as B. Hussein, and her husband was — she probably would have been just as bad.
12. Ed: You said it all, and perfectly too. Bravo.
“Somehow I suspect her Israel record won’t go over well with Jewish voters, and her Honduras calamity might be hard to explain to Hispanic voters. And of course, failure and incompetence are hard to explain to everyone.”
Hard to say it better. Classic Rubin.
Her reputation is not “littered with failure”. Her record as a NY senator is actually brilliant – ask the NY firefighters and police officers who were recovering after 9/11. Maybe Hillary just isn’t as good on the national stage. But at the state level, she is truly incredible and seriously delivers. In that sense, you’re right, she should have stayed a senator and probably should have never run for president.
Clinton is a laughing stock. Her greed for power has finally caught up to her and she has been slammed to the ground. This downfall could not have happen to a better person. RIP Hillary!
She should start leaking info that all her good ideas have been vetoed by Michelle , around Christmas resign and get ready for the Iowa cauci . I can not wait .
Hillary is the most sane person in the administration. she is setting up the groundwork for women around the world. She is a very smart individual and knew exactly what she was getting in to and she has done more good from the inside then if she was on the outside. I think its Obama that didn’t know what was in store for him and believe that to this day.
Stupidity, violence and incompetence from Hillary? No way. Have you forgotten that she’s the smartest woman in the world? Oh, right, I forgot about Michelle. How ‘last century’ of me.
I would still prefer her over Obama any day of the week. She was the lesser of two evils.
…the most-often-heard complaint from those having to work around her…
As I recall, she didn’t exactly have a reputation as a team player back when she was First Lady. Back then her reputation was as someone very hard to get along with, quick to take a grudge and ruthless in going after anyone she thought was in her way. Maybe her years in the Senate fostered (ah, bad choice of words, sorry Vince) some team spirit.
Yeah, right. Sorry, got carried away there.
I always assumed she took the SecState job in order to stab Obama in the back when it came time for the 2012 primaries. She probably figured, as did most people, that Obama’s incredible lack of experience on foreign affairs would mean his Presidency would be torpedoed by some foreign crisis which he would mishandle, a la Jimmeh Carter. Then Hillary could resign “in disgust” and run against him, running an updated version of her 3am phone call ad. She could go on and on about how she tried, tried oh so hard, as SecState, to guide Obama to a wise course, but that he was just too naive/stubborn/misguided/whatever, and despite her best efforst, he botched it.
But she’s too incompetent herself, and took a visible role in too much botched diplomacy herself. Not just the big things like Honduras, Poland and Israel, which she could possibly blame on Obama since he’s the boss, but the little things too, like the Reset button and the snubs to Britain. Those are harder to blame on orders from above, they look more like pure bungling within the department she runs.
I agree, she’s not very smart. She’s just another Ivy League Liberal who gets an unearned assumption of brilliance from the media. Just like Obama, Kerry, Gore, Frank, or like Adlai Stevenson two generations ago. Not much evidence any of them could think their way out of a wet paper bag.
If Hill has any remaining political ambitions, she should get out ASAP. Why not run for NY governor or, if present trends continue, challenge the One in 2012? She’s miscast as Secretary of State and, besides, she is the least consequential SofS since William Rogers when Henry Kissinger was Nixon’s NSA. She gets all the photo ops in Africa while the main players determine policy.
She went from the “rock star of the Democrat Party” to
Obama’s trained parrot in a very short time. It makes
one question just how bright SHE really was, when she
was at her zenith. Maybe it was the Klieg lights aimed
by an adoring media that dazzled many. Today, she looks
like a tired, older woman, playing a perfunctory role
in an unsettled administration…..trapped, because
she doesn’t know how to do anything else……like….
baking cookies.
She is the Gem in the administration. She is a wonderful Sec. of State. Very engaged in all that she doing on all fronts with foreign matters. She should be our President. She the most amazing person I have ever witnessed. America is very proud of her. Madam Sec. has respect from many in the world.
Forget about Hildabeast running for Governor of NY. She would rather bleep Obama with Michelle’s bleep than live in a backwater hicktown like Albany. I don’t even know how she survived Little Rock, except she hadn’t had a taste of DC yet.
Maria, when you drink the KoolAid straight from the pitcher, others will laugh at your appalling manners.
Obama was always, always going to marginalise Hillary. She was always going to be a threat to him in his mind. I can’t see why she didn’t understand this. Did she think that Obama would ever allow her to steal his spotlight and take some credit for foreign accomplishments while he just stood by and applauded? So he put her in a corner and made a fool out of her. She won’t recover to challenge him in my view. She is washed up. She should have resigned over Poland or over Honduras, it’s too late now.
65. Virginia11775: see #10
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Hillary has a tendency to squander her opportunities but I believe she knew what she was doing when she took this job. Her eyes are not on 2016 but 2012. It is too early for her to resign in “appalling protest” even though the Eastern European shield issue would be the kind of issue that would allow her to make her move. She needs more time and a boondoggle that hits Obama hard. Give her time and we will see The Clinton back at work doing what the Clintons are good at … rising above it when you think they have had a nut clipping.
Hillary who? Oh, you mean that old has-been from the 90′s? Bleh. The world ignores her, thanks to the weakling in the White House.
To #60. JMH:As I recall, she didn’t exactly have a reputation as a team player back when she was First Lady. Back then her reputation was as someone very hard to get along with, quick to take a grudge and ruthless in going after anyone she thought was in her way….. Very true, she is not a team player and most likely is tracking the polls daily herself, gauging when will the proper time to resign, lay low for a while then plot her White House takeover. She will dutifully claim she she did her best under the circumstances dealt to her by Team Obama. The less rabid Left will once again embrace her as the savior of the Democratic Party. The media, not wanting a Conservative America will suddenly remember why the used to call her “The Most Intelligent Women ever”. Remember when they just loved her…this much?
Look at what is happening, we have a constant eye on Obama, not Hillary. The Dem’s have no other “stong” candidate ready if and when the party needs to throw Obama under the bus to save their souls. She has been out of the town hall fray this summer so she made no “new” enemies-they have plenty as it is. Bill will once again “feel our pain”. It’s a win-win situation for her at this moment. So she thinks. What she doesn’t have ability to realize is there is NO WAY IN HELL we are voting for another Socialist Democrat as President. Yeah, 2012 will be a hoot!
63..maria..hahaha you had us goin there for a moment…thought you were nuts…but,..hahahaha
She’s been a sad lady since Vince left ..no redeeming values left.
Why do people think she’s smart?
I don’t understand all the fuss. Maybe you all don’t realize it, but Hillary has the entire state department staff learning Russian, Arabic, Farsi, Chinese, Spanish, German, French, Hindi, Urdu and Persian. In all those languages, and many others, they will know exactly how to say “Thank you sir, may I have another.”
It is interesting that the leftist troll watchers seem to be fading back into the woodwork. They spent years telling us about the fascism descending upon us during GW’s terms, with no evidence that anyone they knew was being persecuted, well, except perhaps alien terrorists who wanted to kill thousands of Americans (and did). Now, with a president in office who is indeed doing all that they said was happening with GW, they turn to silence. They must know that to profess otherwise goes against the published record. I suspect they don’t care. I suspect that they have always had small souls and hated all that this country has been and has dreamed to be. They are small souls because they were never able to succeed on their own and were jealous of others who did.
Anyway, that’s a story given many times. What the trolls should do is read history and ask themselves what happens to the implementers of revolution (except for the American one).
People who are opposed to the regime might end up in camps…but the leading edge revolutionaries end up in a tile lined room with a drain in the center.
Yeah, right.
Hilliary can’t match Powell lying us into the disaster known as the Iraq War. Costing us a trillion dollars and 4,500 hundred lives and 30,00 maimed for life.
You are unbelievable. And you offend me.
Paul from Hamburg…
thank you, that was funny.
Well, she’s achieved this …
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8271990.stm
It’s early days yet, but that’s an important concession from one critical partner of iran.
She really is quite terrible, isn’t she. But how could it be more fitting that she is just an old draft horse in an Administration that has forever changed the definition of the word “smart”?
Disastrous Honduras policy?
Wake up. The entire WORLD (except for Pajamas and its ilk) accept that what occurred in Honduras was a coup. And every government has failed to support it and instead called for the reinstatement of Zelaya (with the possible exception of Israel and Taiwan, but even their ‘support’ has been tepid and subdued at best).
Lose the Jewish vote because of her botching with Israel? Are you kidding? Obama was snubbing Israel on the campaign trail and they STILL voted 77% for Obama, just as they voted for other Dem candidates in the prior elections, even with clear-cut evidence that the majority of anti-Semitic politicians are on the left side of the aisle. Case in point, Carter got 45% of the Jewish vote, against Reagan’s 39%, even after Carter showed open hostility towards Israel and unabashed support for Hamas.
And don’t expect the Hispanic community to get too worked up over Honduras; they’ll still vote Democrat by majority. Why else do you think the Dems are pushing so hard for Amnesty? That’s 20 million new voters, MINIMUM. And in the last election, 67% voted for Obama, versus McCain’s 32%…even though it was McCain’s name on the Amnesty bill prior to the election.
Dave in post 79, the ENTIRE world, as you put it, can go sit and spin. These are the same ENTIRE world countries that routinely condemn Israel for defending itself against Palestinian terrorism and give Mahmoud Ahmadingaling a podium from which to spew his hateful nonsense. The only thing the Honduran government did wrong, by their own Constitution, was to remove Zalayas from the country, which they did in hopes of preventing bloodshed.
Calling for the reinstatement of a Communist seeking to set himself up as a lifetime Castro/Chavez-esque tyrant instead of a democracy that seeks the great freedom our country was founded upon and has flourished with for over two hundred years? Mister, you are either doing too many drugs, or not nearly enough.
79. Dave:
Disastrous Honduras policy?
Wake up. The entire WORLD (except for Pajamas and its ilk) accept that what occurred in Honduras was a coup.
Who cares what the “entire world” (minus what you consider the unimportant countries) thinks? The only coup in Honduras was the attempt by Zelaya and that was fended off by the rest of the Honduran government, as per their Constitution. If you don’t understand that, then either you don’t know what happened or haven’t bothered to read the Honduran Constitution.
Washington is supporting Zelaya’s attempted coup, which is backed by Chavez, establishing the leftist COCOA-Puffs of the Americas: Castro, Obama, Chavez, Ortega, Arias. It is absolutely disgusting and pathetic and as un-American as anything this nation has ever seen.
Interestingly, the UN representative for Zelaya’s junta-in-exile, acknowledged by The Precedent, is an old Honduran terrorist from the 80′s – a bomber. He’s sort of the Honduran Bill Ayers. That’s fitting. Anyone connected to this pathetic display of leftist insanity will be ripped to political shreds, just as all the Castro-lovers on the left who are comfortable crowing about the scumbag.
Go Hillary. Run in 2012. I want to see Hillary vs. Sarah. I was totally drawn to the drama of the 2008 campaign. This would be a mega mega spectacle.
It was just Hillary that got played, the country got played too.
I have to laugh at people who think she could be president or that Obama will be re-elected.
Obama will go down as a joke, and he’ll kill the democrats for a generation.
The write questions whether Jews will vote for her based on her meddling in Israel. Do you really think American Jews care what’s going on over there?
Hillary is just using her considerable cleverness to undermine Obama so she can present herself as the better candidate in 2012. Obama should, and if he had any real experience in governing would, have realized that putting Hillary anywhere near his throne was simply an open invitation to her to overthrow him.
79. Dave:
Wake up. The entire WORLD (except for Pajamas and its ilk) accept that what occurred in Honduras was a coup.
Peter writes: And just because half the world’s MEDIA says it was a coup doesn’t make it any more the truth.
The Honduran govenment followed their constitution, the dictator-wannabe was legally impeached. (You lefties know that word, impeached, right? After all, you were calling for it to be imposed on Bush for simply doing his job compentently for almost 8 YEARS!) He was forced into exile because he would not give up the reigns of power.
Only the lefty, despotic, dictator and dictator-wannabes see what happened in Honduras as a coup. Try reading their constitution before you pass your ill-informed judgement.
Better yet, try reading your own Constitution first.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/09/was-hillary-clinton-right-on-iran.html
A very satisfying neutering of a very vicious crypto stalinist. Undone by her own reverse racism,lust for the spotlight,and ambition,Hillary is a microcosm of the post-60′s left-wing yuppie class.they are both done!
She backed out of that anti-Iran speech in New York City when she found out Sarah Palin was going to speak there.
She’s a petty statist. She hardly did anything on her own.
79. Dave:
Disastrous Honduras policy?
Wake up. The entire WORLD (except for Pajamas and its ilk) accept that what occurred in Honduras was a coup. And every government has failed to support it and instead called for the reinstatement of Zelaya (with the possible exception of Israel and Taiwan, but even their ’support’ has been tepid and subdued at best).
According to a report by the Congressional Research Service, http://media.sfexaminer.com/documents/2009-002965HNRPT.pdf:
V. Was the removal of Honduran President Zelaya legal, in accordance with Honduran constitutional and statutory law?
Available sources indicate that the judicial and legislative branches applied constitutional and statutory law in the case against President Zelaya in a manner that was judged by the
Honduran authorities from both branches of the government to be in accordance with the Honduran legal system.
The only caveat they note is:
However, removal of President Zelaya from the country by the military is in direct violation of the Article 102 of the Constitution, and apparently this action is currently under investigation by the Honduran authorities.50
The use of the military to enforce Honduran Supreme Court rulings is specifically allowed by the Honduran Constitution. It is only the exile that comes into question, but that is nothing but a technicality in the whole process, and as Zelaya had taken his thugs and broken into the military base holding the illegal ballots (intending to carry out the un-Constitutional plebiscite, themselves) can be viewed as a reasonable emergency measure.
“Her tenure as secretary of state has been nothing short of embarrassing and disastrous.”
The FDR/Hull tenure was disastrous.
The Obama/Clinton tenure is simply absurd. A clown show. Not disastrous, though…not yet anyway.
Shrillary is a female version of BHO in a bad looking pantsuit. Nothing more. She knows how to play politics. Other than that, she is useless.
America will never elect her to the WH.
Actually, I see her current role as perhaps her best propellant to another nomination run should the Obama term crash and burn. But, only if she bails out pretty soon.
She can blame here errors on trying to be a ‘team player’. Plus, she can claim that she loyally tried to help an erstwhile opponent. Finally, she can claim she knows what doesn’t work, and can that what she said during the ’08 campaign would have been better.
With a GOP front table that is in a bit of disarray, becoming a viable alternative among Democrats to a disasterous Obama administration might just make her into something of a counter-political hero.
I think Hillary has realized the mistake she made, and I suspect the Obama administration has worked to undermine her authority at every turn (not that she’s done herself any favors). It’s beginning to tell on her, too. She really looks rough when she appears in public these days.
As for whether she would have made a better president than Obama: I believe anybody would have made a better president than Obama.
The thing we should care about is where these loons on the left are taking us and the world.
Who cares what “could have been” or “what might be in 2012″?
Many of us could be incinerated, in debt up to our National eyeballs, or neutered in foreign policy, and former allies overrun by the world’s thugs as we sit idly by unable to act because we are broke, and our leaders are weak.
In 9 mos, these people have:
1: Buried us in Trillions of debt
2: Alienated and thrown overboard allies we have had for 60+ years, and some who we fought the Cold War to free, Poland and Czechoslovakia
3:Due to our retreat from Nuclear deterrence, we have likely set off a race for nukes,by former friends that were under our protective “umbrella”..Brazil said yesterday they want nukes now for heaven sakes..
4: We have cozied up to dictators, murderers and thugs such as Chavez, and as noted, threw the Constitutionally correct Hondurans under the bus to reinstate a dictator.
5: We are on the verge of destroying the greatest Medical system in the world.
No, this is way more than Obama marginalizing the Clintons, We and our former allies and Western Civilization/Capitalism are ALL threatened.We cannot be trusted.
6:They have Nationalized much of the auto industry, fired managers and executives, ripped up legal contracts with bondholders, and turned over these once great US companies to the Unions that helped them to power
7: We have seen exactly what ACORN is all about.
We are in deep doo-doo…
VaughnB wins the thread.
Give Obama credit for knowing how to play politics. He appealed to Hillary’s ego by offering her SoS & she bit; she’s been pretty much invisible ever since.
IMO, there’s NO realistic scenario for her becoming the Dem. nominee ever.
In 2012, she’d be challenging an incumbent running for a second term. The people whose votes decide the Dem nomination will still be drinking the Kool Aid.
If Obama wins re-election in 2012, then the front-runner in 2016 will be whoever Obama selects as VP instead of Biden (too old & no longer needed to “reassure” voters due to Obama’s inexperience) or it’ll be a “wide open, new leadership” campaign – Hillary will be too old and too “old leadership”.
If she wanted to be President, the thing to do was stay in the Senate & aim at 2012.
Perhaps you are unaware? But Honduras is a Catholic country. Hillary forgot to call the Vatican. Because she’d be told the Pope is not going to let the bamster do harm to Hondurans.
Chavez is a friend of the bamster. Hillary thinks Catholocism is a joke.
You call those two ‘prepared?’ For what? Gas bags, both of them. Watching the democrapic party going to the dogs.
Won’t be long now, either. On November 3rd, in two states, the people vote for governors. Virginia. And, New Jersey. And, you know what Hugh Hewitt said back in 2004. If enough people vote, the race(s) can’t be thrown or stolen. So, yes. We have things to watch. Including turnout. Given that turnout for Tea Parties have been terrific. What, exactly, sets voting back, now? Just give this 6 weeks. Then you’ll know the results.
While I’m sure ‘professional politicians’ hire their pollsters to tell them “how they’re doing.” And, if their show gets to Broadway. Or not.
The Clintons have been taken to the laundery, outmanoevered by Obama. Hillary shouldn’t have accepted the Department of State secretary, should have stayed in the senate and allow people to see the difference between her and a radical like Obama – now, there is no return for her in senate (remember, it was Patrick moynahan who gave her the seat), she wouldn’t look much better than Caroline Kennedy.
Still, I take Bill Clinton’s yesterday comment on gay marriage (now he’s for it), as an attempt to split Obama’s radical base, gay activists among them, for an eventual contest in 2012 – whatever happens, the sitution is better and better for the Republicans and conservatives.
“just another Ivy League Liberal who gets an unearned assumption of brilliance from the media” (60:JMH)
Wow ! Now that hits the nail squarely on the head ! Can November 2010 come any faster ? Viva la Revolucion !
“Does anybody here know how to play this game?” V. Lombardi
Apparently not.
Maybe Hillary is trying to stay low key on purpose. She can’t help but see the problems President Obama is having. She might see one last shot at the ring in 2012. What might make me think that? Well, when Obama was making his infomercial pitches on the Sunday Morning talkers, George Stephanopolis was the only one who tried to grill him on anything. Could that be he is helping his old boss’s wife? I mentioned it here. (I hope I’m allowed to embed links.)
Hillary has less than a year in the position of Secretary of State. She will resign over policy differences and claim that she can no longer agree to policies that she believes lead to weakening of the country. Her show of character will reestablish her as a strong principled leader who tried to compromise for the party and for policies that she mostly supports. If she does it soon enough and with a strong enough argument, she can challenge Obama in 2012. If he continues going as he’s going, she might pull it off.
I’ve never liked Hillary and I certainly didn’t vote for her. However, this article explains her situation exactly and I’m beginning to feel sorry for the position she put herself in. Had she stayed in the Senate, I believe she could have been a star in the Congressional ring and I definitely think she would have been happier.
From the way she has looked in recent pictures, this job is really taking a toll on her and she sometimes looks pitiful.
Isn’t it funny how one man, Obama, can make even scarecrows look welcoming!
If Hillary decides to return to politics, you will see the fastest reversal regarding Israel. She can’t win without the Jewish votes in New York, so she will announce that Israel can use natural growth in settlements, and that the UNHRC investigation of the Gaza operation was a libel on Israel. If she doesn’t do any of those things, she will not run for Governor or the Senate, at least not in New York.
#101
Casey Stengel and the NY Mets, not Vince Lombardi.
Just for the record.
You need to show her some mercy,but don`t make the sieve so loose that more blemeshes can filter through
Hillary Clinton n’est pas le plus intelligent du monde et qu’elle est une garce! Mai, elle a fondu dans le néant de ne jamais être revu.
Hillary Clinton is not the smartest person in the world and she is a bitch! May she fade into nothingness never to be seen again.