Herman Cain: The New Front-Runner
Herman Cain is entering the American consciousness at a time when ordinary people are more afraid of the future than at any juncture within memory. We Americans are searching for someone to fill the leadership vacuum left by an adolescent gadabout president who believes leadership is nothing more than giving speeches, perennial fundraising, politicking, and playing golf every waking moment in between. Except for the brief moments, when Obama’s Astroturf protesters show up “coincidentally” to make his points, the community organizer in chief can’t seem to organize his way out of a wet paper bag.
Yes, America is leaderless. And Americans know it.
Morgan Freeman seems to think it’s all a movie and his president thinks it’s a game. “I’ve got game,” Barack Obama told Democrats a couple of years ago, but “game” doesn’t fill the real shoes of the real presidency. And when there’s no real grown-up president there, things tend to go down the chute in a great big hurry. That would happen whether the president off playing games was black, white, or purple. It’s just a fact of life. Americans know this and are not the least bit fooled with all the race-baiting hustlers on the airwaves.
This country elected an eternal adolescent in a man’s body. Where’s the president? Oh, he’s off playing on the Vineyard. Where’s the president? Oh, it’s cold in D.C., so he must be off sunning in Hawaii. Where’s the president? It’s Sunday, so he must be playing golf. Where’s the president? It’s a boring weeknight, so he must be having a soiree with movie stars and musicians. I heard it was Paul McCartney, or is it Stevie Wonder this week? Where’s the president? Oh, he’s on The View, or is it the late night show? Honestly, I cannot keep track of this man-child’s social schedule.
Play. Play. Play. While the nation suffers.
Enter Herman Cain, the Republican backbencher who is setting the nominating race on its ear, confounding the oddsmakers of all stripes, and winning voters over one hard-fought day at a time.
As a Cain supporter for quite some time now, it is nice to see Herman doing well in the national spotlight. However, Kyle-Anne, I would be careful reading too much into a Zogby poll due to his questionable methodology. Herman is doing quite well, but I believe Zogby isn’t the person, or poll, that I would use for affirmation of Herman’s popularity.
What do you mean “Questionable” methods of Zogby? I have found in past Zogby to be right on target when results can be proven (there’s an election involved). Starting back during Perot days, he was the only pollster who correctly predicted precise outcomes. In fact C-Span did an interview with him back then–was so striking–and asked how come he got it right?
He said it was because most pollsters don’t give sufficient weight to Independent Voters.
I agree with just about everything in this posting about Cain — except for false note he injected couple days ago in his comment about the Wall Street protesters–”Don’t blame Wall Street, don’t blame the banks, ifyou don’t have a job–blame yourself!”
I have this bridge club of old ladiea where I toos out stuff on politics to get reactions. Everything good you say about Cain they have said one way or another. BUT that comment about jobs was a total turnoff! They just don’t BELIEVE that not having a job is always the fault of the individual. The ladies didn’t LIKE that!
So watch it, Herman–you could blow this with careless talk.
Herman Cain talks to those people in Wall Street like we all wish someone would. They are not there to achieve anything. THey are not looking to make their lives better, they are there to create chaos. So yes, I am glad he said that. It’s what we love about him that he calls it like he sees it.
Impressive, but this is Zogby, so should be taken with a large grain of salt.
disagree
It would be interesting to see a debate between Obama and Cain. Never has there been a greater contrast between two people. And, with the race card eliminated (though, actually, Cain would be a truer black than Obama, not only based upon parental heritage but also on his background, so attacking Cain would be more racist than attacking Obama) I think we would see Obama ripped to shreds.
I’m not sure if I understand all of Mr. Cain’s positions on the issues, but given what I’ve heard so far he would be a much better choice than Obama as well as Mr. Romney (after all, Romney is more liberal than conservative. his conservativeness is only a result of having to run as a republican)
1)Above all else, I would like to vote for Cain if he is the most ardent conservative of the current republican field of prez candidate hopefuls.
2)If (1) is the case, then it would be a delight to see the lame stream media’s collective head explode trying to figure out ways to destroy this guy. Like, demanding to see a birth certificate, or college transcripts, or, say, questioning who actually wrote his books http://www.amazon.com/Herman-Cain/e/B001HOLWIM.
I would take great pleasure in just sitting back and seeing their pitiful attempts at criticizing him without invoking the racist label. Because..they’ve already tried it.
Then, the other facet of it is questioning whites who voted for the guy.
Q: Did you vote for Herman Cain because he’s black?
A: Um, no, actually. I had no idea he was black. I’m blind, you see and I can only hear what he’s said and I have some books of his in Braille. So…race never even entered the argument.
—Newsie walks away looking like they have eaten a giant turd.
Indeed, if Cain runs, the LSM will be at a huge loss, not that they won’t try, mind you, but any/all attempts to snuff out his candidacy will fly like a lead balloon.
And one example, right here: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2011/10/07/herman_cain_endures_lecture_on_blackness_from_msnbc_white_guy
Did you just imply that you are more African American if you grow up in low income? That is pretty racist.
Actually, Brian (with respect), having worked among large numbers of Blacks for most of my life, I heard this criticism leveled by them against their own many times: “S/he doesn’t have the ghetto experience, Man!”
A sticky wicket for outsiders, somewhat akin to the intra-racial prejudice involving shades of coloration (as reported by Kevin Jackson and others). MO, perhaps not so much “racial” as just the near-universal human tendency to impose pecking orders within groups.
Not sure if Cain has a chance to win the nomination (given the order of Iowa, New Hampshire, North Carolina primaries) but if he is AT THE LEAST not offered the VP slot on whoever wins (and takes it!) America will be the loser for it!
The man NEEDS to be in the spotlight more! He would be a star for years to come as a Vice-President…and easily win the nomination 8+ years from now.
Oh…and can you imagine a Cain Vs. Biden VP debate? What a hoot THAT would be!!
And yet nearly every talk show I listen to treats him like he’s half a step above Bachman. I’m voting for the man and I’m betting he gets the nod.
He has a great way of cutting through inrterviewer’s BS while remaining polite and clear. Obama’s “I so smart” nonsense would be laid flat in a debate with him.
Many times these polls reflect a built-in bias, true, but they also have the power to persuade or create a perception. If this poll can convince people that Herman Cain, a solid conservative, can beat Obama, or at least have potential voters to give him a second look, then I’m fine with it. This is also a headline on DRUDGE and I love it.
Neighborhood organizer or …
An American Leader:
After completing his master’s degree from Purdue, Cain left the Department of the Navy and began working for The Coca-Cola Company in Atlanta as a computer systems analyst. In 1977, he moved to Minneapolis to join Pillsbury, soon becoming director of analysis in its restaurant and foods group in 1978. He was assigned in the 1980s first to analyze and ultimately to take the reins of Burger King, which at the time was a Pillsbury subsidiary, where he managed 400 stores in the Philadelphia area. Under Cain’s leadership, his region went in three years from the least profitable for Burger King to the most profitable. This prompted Pillsbury to appoint him President and CEO of another subsidiary, Godfather’s Pizza. Aiming to cut costs, Cain, over a 14-month period, reduced the company from 911 stores to 420. As a result of his efforts, Godfather’s Pizza became profitable. In a leveraged buyout in 1988, Cain, Executive Vice-President and COO Ronald B. Gartlan and a group of investors, bought Godfather’s from Pillsbury. Cain continued as CEO until 1996, when he resigned.
Later in 1996 he became CEO of the National Restaurant Association, a trade group and lobby organization for the restaurant industry, where he had previously been chairman concurrently with his role at Godfather’s Pizza.[13]
Cain became a member of the board of directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City in 1992 and served as its chairman from January 1995 to August 1996, when he resigned to become active in national politics.[14]
Cain was a 1996 recipient of the Horatio Alger Award.[15]
Cain was on the board of directors of Aquila, Inc. from 1992 to 2008, and also served as a board member for Nabisco, Whirlpool, Reader’s Digest, and AGCO, Inc.[16][17][18]
(source: wikipedia)
I would not be touting Herman Cain’s Board Membership with Aquila if I were you:
Herman Cain’s Enron-esque Disaster
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/05/herman-cain-aquila-lawsuit-2012#xdm_e=http%3A%2F%2Fmotherjones.com
Herman Cain was the chairman of the compensation committee that
oversaw pay and bonuses for executives and other positions. The bonuses
that he approved were in line for the time when the entire company was
seeing high profits in the late 90′s. Bonuses are based on the previous
year performance. The financial problem with Aquila didn’t show up
until mid 2001 during the recession.
There was a Pension and
Benefits committee and a retirement committee. Herman Cain was not on
either one of those. Thus Cain didn’t come across the activity and
paperwork to see what was going on with these committees. The lawsuit
that was filed named all sorts of people at the top even if they didn’t
have basic oversight at issue with the lawsuit. Class action lawsuits
tend to always do this.
For whom would you tout?
zogby
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Cain will only get better. He falls for media traps at times but he is a fast learner. I’m convinced Sarah felt this true conservative is on track to the White House and therefore she could safely bow out and work on creating a Tea Party majority in Congress.
Ditto!
Herman Cain/Allen West 2012!
Cain/West is a conservative dream ticket, but it is a Georgia and Florida ticket and not balanced. Romney might be so strong that he forces himself on the ticket. I think Paul Ryan would be the right balance.
We don’t help ourselves by taking effective people out of Congress for VP. We need Ryan and West in the House to continue the conservative efforts to reform it. They are people who can lead in that institution where we need to change the Republican go-along-to-get-along heritage. Ryan and West are fighters in the mold of Schumer who has continuously wreaked havoc on the Republicans since he first entered in the House. We need fighters now to take the battle to the Democrats.
I agree. Ryan and West are critical in their present positions for now.
Add Rubio. We need new leadership in Congress as we throw the ruling class flunkies out.
I think any mature, sensible and realistic adult feels a part of this man. After listening to him for the first time a couple of months ago I thought what a breath of fresh air. If you think Palin was butchered by the press you aint seen nothin yet, this guy is a huge threat to the beltway slime necks and what passes as the media.
Mr. Cain understands and persuasively defends the FACT that innovative business, free enterprise, robust capitalism and by lifting up the spirit of hard working Americans is the ENGINE that drives our country. I’ve heard him say it 100 ways out of his mouth. HE GETS IT!
Communists, socialists, Marxists, Leninists, collectivists in more similar than varying degrees believe in class warfare and wealth confiscation. In Essence (in true Nietszche form)their heartfelt desire is to create an aristocracy through self appointment. After all, someone has to lead and someone has to follow. Or as Nietszche put it, one must be “master” and one must be “slave.”
This is why he so despised “All men are created equal” and therefore was repulsed and sickened by Christianity. Sound familiar in contemporary context?
The heart of man is inherently corrupt and needs temperance and societal restraint. Proof? Everyone has lied, cheated, stolen, coveted etc. Therefore, faith in Christ (in my case) and A-B-C religion (for others) that see all men as being created equal (very important distinction) is fundamental to America’s founding and enormous wealth. Herman Cain believes that all men are created equal and therefore responsibility lies with the individual.
Of course Nietszche in his supreme wisdom disagrees completely (i.e. Beyond Good and Evil 1886 and Der AntiChrist 1888). Thus the famous quote “God is dead” according to Nietszche, simply means good and evil don’t matter. Christ and therefore equality of man are of no consequence. Sadly, “God is dead” became infamous when his most final utterances should have represented his foolishness. In his final days of shear madness he could only mumble “I am dead because I am stupid… I am stupid because I am dead.”
The great schemes and twisted philosophies of Machiavelli, Descartes, Hobbes, Mills, Darwin, Nietszche, Marx, Lenin, Hitler et al have only sown the seeds of destruction. Herman Cain, although I’m sure flawed in many ways, is the right man in this crucial time in history to lead America against the onslaught and madness of those who wish to destroy her and enslave we the people. We do have a small amount of world history as a proof source.
I never will understand the christian hangup with Darwin. Nothing is more obvious than the fact that we are placental-mammals.
Otherwise I agree and enjoyed your comment.
I don’t get the hang-up with Marx either.
Groucho was funnier than hell.
“I once shot an elephant in my pajams. What he was doing in my pajamas, I’ll never know.”
Ruebacca – What is the “Christian hangup” with Darwin? Well, from my Christian perspective it is simple. I disagree with his epistemology on “The Origin of Species.” I can appreciate his quest for knowledge and zeal for scientific discovery since I hold those qualities myself. Unfortunately Darwin was limited in his ability to observe the complexity, irreducible complexity, of life at the molecular level and therefore his theory of evolution is lacking real scientific breakthrough. Add this to the well know fact that Darwin was a self proclaimed atheist my feelings as a Christian are less of a “hangup” and more of a fundamental disagreement on the observable facts.
For instance, we can observe more today regarding quantum mechanics and quantum physics as a whole that points towards order and intelligent design in the cosmos than ever before. You can disagree with me but that doesn’t change the facts. I certainly don’t subscribe to the “hangup” that God is an old white man with a beard hanging out at the shuffleboard court in heaven.
Having a Christian theological viewpoint, I am not rejecting the ideas of Darwin because of hangups. I am rejecting material reductionists as a whole based on the destructive nature of their mindset as perpetrated by so many atheists including but not limited to Hobbes, Mills, Marx et al and of which Lenin, Stalin and Mao took to a whole new level of depravity and foisted upon mankind at the end of a gun barrel. They certainly believed in survival of the fittest while viewing the equality of man as utter nonsense. No hangups here!
“I certainly don’t subscribe to the “hangup” that God is an old white man with a beard hanging out at the shuffleboard court in heaven.”
I agree, I’ve seen God’s movie, he looks just like George Burns!!
perry 1949 – Very funny! We can only hope that George Burns AND Gracie Allen are somewhere in the afterlife!
I’m sure you accept that life *evolved* on this planet.
The life forms of today aren’t the ones of 100 million years ago.
When there were trilobites, there were no dinosaurs; when there were dinosaurs, there were no humans; etc.
The proponents of Intelligent Design, like Dr. Michael Behe, accept the vast age of the Earth. They accept that the biosphere on Earth evolved, with species becoming extinct and new species arising to take their place. It’s only in HOW life on Earth evolved that they part company with Darwin. Darwin accepted natural selection as the main mechanism; ID proponents believe that deliberate design was a factor.
Intelligent Design is *NOT* Christian creationism, despite what its critics say about it.
Actually, Darwin didn’t describe himself as an atheist. To the best his numerous biographers have been able to show, he was an agnostic. His wife was very religious, so if he was an atheist, maybe he didn’t want to declare it publicly in order to not hurt her. On the other hand, Thomas Huxley was an influential defender of Darwin’s theories and a fellow scientist, and Huxley essentially invented agnosticism, so it would make sense that Darwin was actually an agnostic, following his friend’s arguments that one should only believe what could be proved.
Also, many people confuse Darwinism today with what Darwin himself wrote. For example, Darwin was never sure about the mechanism of evolution; they didn’t know about genes back then. Also, Darwin imagined some kind of naturalistic origin for humans, but he was clear that he couldn’t prove it (and we still can’t).
Another serious problem is miscommunication. Science is most productive when scientists assume that everything is the result of natural processes. This excludes any kind of divine action. However, this is only an assumption that allows science to move forward. It is not something science can prove is true. Both sides seem to ignore this point to the detriment of real dialog and understanding.
Religious scientists may be the most aware of this point. In conducting science, they have to assume there was no divine action. However, outside of their scientific research, they may believe that there was / is divine intervention. Properly understood, there is no contradiction in these two positions, but it hinges on understanding that science is most productive when it makes this assumption, and yet the assumption itself cannot be proven by science; it is taken on faith, as it were.
“The great schemes and twisted philosophies of Machiavelli, Descartes, Hobbes, Mills, Darwin, Nietszche, Marx, Lenin, Hitler et al.”
One of these things does not belong with the others.
I was thinking the same thing.
Animal – OK, I’ll give you that “great schemes” may not fit Descartes and “slightly” twisted philosophy may be a better description.
“I reject as absolutely false everything in which I could imagine the least doubt…” – Rene’ Descartes
Descartes proved God’s existence but reduced it to the smallest matter of our own thinking. Like Darwin, Descartes lacked the observable scientific facts we now take for granted (i.e. irreducible complexity etc.) so I don’t blame him anymore than I blame Darwin BUT… Descartes, like Darwin can only be held to the standard of efficacy that they put forth.
I was thinking Hobbes.
Jimmyjames – You do make a point. In today’s depraved society we have embraced the philosophy of Hobbes as much as that of Mills. “If it feels good, do it!”
“Every man has a right to everything…” – Thomas Hobbes
Hobbes reduced humanity to a near simplicity reached by Mills (pigs according to Nietszche) that sent us after our most “natural” man. That man existing where no good or evil, right or wrong, just and unjust belongs.
Hobbes goes on to claim we are creatures entirely without conscience, ruled solely by pleasure and pain, ravenous in our desires and ruthless in our pursuits. If that weren’t enough Hobbes goes on to describe human rights as “Whatever we desire, we have a right to by nature.” Yikes!
Jimmyjames, you should sharpen your mind in order to defeat the destructive forces of humanity. Good luck!
I’ve been with Cain since I first heard him speak.
Cain/Bolton.
Bolton to head up foreign policy freeing up Cain to right the domestic situation.
I was thinking the same thing exactly! Where he is deficient, Bolton knows it all and knows who plays games with us.
Nope, Bolton should be in the Cabinet with Newt Gingrich.
West ensures that Cain will live to see the end of his term as president.
2 real black Americans, instead of this faux imposter of an American, son of a hater of America and and hater of America who was raised within Islam hater of American influence and went to church in the Chickens Coming Home to Roost Hater of America church for 20 years, while married to the never been proud of America before in my life wife.
Get this fraud out of offfice and some real honest to goodness African Americans in there.
I am a fan of West, and I believe he should stay put. We need him where he is right now. Same with many others.
Cain recently lost my serious consideration of him as my first choice when this week he played the race card against Perry. Like Bachmann with one woman’s nonfactual claim concerning side effects of the controversial innoculation, Cain didn’t bother with full investigation of the facts before offering a (subtle) insinuation that Perry is a racist. Additionally, he refers to himself as the “black walnut flavor of the week” and claims he’s the one who can steal away some of Obama’s black vote. Read this: “vote for me because I’m black.”
I am sick of being told not to judge people by the color of their skin by the self-same people who do exactly that when it suits their purpose. And by the way, there is something sly in his facial expressions that I do not trust.
I was disturbed by the media reports of his reaction to the Perry racism charge, but then when I actually watched the clip of him on Chris Wallace show, I realized the press was once again misrepresenting the facts. Watch for yourself and you may change your mind too. Should Cain have refused to respond until he had all the facts? A more experienced pol would have, but Cain is not and that’s part of his appeal. He may make missteps but I prefer he errs on the side of being direct and answering questions rather than avoiding them to protect himself.
I, too, saw the clip and believe he was responding to the word in question rather than criticing Perry. Just saw the clip of him tearing up MSNBC’s O’Donnell. Cain can really hold his own.
West is no prize either. He lost me when he joined the Congressional Black Caucus. His doing so shows me he is black first and foremost and will act accordingly.
Actually, I think he did the right thing joining the CBC. He’s intent to undermining the presumption that being black means voting Democrat. Besides, I’m sure his presence drives the liberal democrats in the caucus nuts.
From reading West’s weekly e-mails and such, I think Raymond in DC has it right, grizzly. West joined in order to have influence, and to gather his own first-hand intelligence about what they’re up to. He has bucked them on the record several times. After all, only blacks can be members and someone is clearly needed to infiltrate this lunatic gang.
Mr. Cain is very likeable and handles debates and interviews well. I also like Perry and Romney is solid. Now that the “maybe / maybe nots” have left the stage, it’s time to take a good look at everyone.
We know Mr. Cain can handle adversity and keep on keeping on. President Downgrade can’t handle any criticism and very likely has a crook for an AG. The Dems are done in 2012 and are trying to pretend otherwise–this election cannot be stolen.
Looking forward to the next round of debates and see who has made the most of the three week break. Glad the voting will start soon and there will be less time in Iowa, sure would prefer if we had no caucuses.
If the economy doesn’t perk up, my old Aunt Sadie could beat Obambi, and she’s senile and wets herself.
Easy does it… Let’s not get all weepy and emotional – that’s what the left and center did for Obama last go round, and look where we’ve ended up. Let’s keep our eyes open and emotions in check.
Cain is one of my top choices, but he’s human like the rest of us. He makes mistakes, he has huge knowledge gaps, and he will disappoint in some ways and exceed our expectations in others. Let’s not go overboard, no matter how desperate we are to replace the current adminitration with something better.
Amen.
Totally agree, 100%, no doubt Cain is a very capable man, I’m only concerned if he’s a capable politician. Obama’s machine will play every dirty trick in the book in 2012. By November of 2012 Obama will have you believing Cain is a white man in theatrical blackface makeup strumming a banjo in a 1930′s minstrel show. And 51% of the voters will believe it.
Conservatives must look very carefully at the candidates’ message. We need a man with a plan. So far the only plans I’ve seen is Cain’s 9-9-9 plan, (which I’m not in love with), and Newt’s new 21st Century Contract with America. Mitt has no plan, so he’s off the table for me.
‘Sway it shakes out for me at this time.
mitt delivered his plan in a speech he made over a month ago. I would rather see us nominate someone else, too. But I will grin like the butcher’s dog when I vote for whomever the Republicans can run against the communist in the White House.
In response to Carol’s response to #15 above:
Watch his CNN interview. Cain flat out states Perry showed insensitivity even while admitting he (Cain) didn’t know when the rock was painted over. Using racism to his advantage, of which I’ve seen enough for many lifetimes. When I look more closely at Cain (as I have done Perry and all others), I will keep the unfair advantages of Equal Opportunity and other questions in mind in trying to ascertain the character of this successful businessman. I am an Equal Opportunity skeptic, and as I said, I see suspicious slyness in Cain’s face. This is EXACTLY what Obama did with his racist “the police acted stupidly” remark.
My mistake–the interview was with Amanpour on ABC. He was not just responding to the word. He definitely went after Perry while admitting he didn’t know the answers to some pertinent questions. He did start walking back his comments later, but to my knowledge there’s been no proposed beer summit.
I think Cain/Santorum is a possibility.
Rick was/is popular in Pennsylvania. He’s also likable, at least among conservatives, and he has had a lot of foreign policy interests in his background.
Rick would also be quite happy in the role as Veep, I think. He’s not a current governor or Senator who has important work to do there.
Santorum is a loser! How can a sitting US Senator lose the election to an unknown by 18 points? In addition, Rick Santorum is self-righteous and sanctimonius; nothing real about this man.
You mean to Bob Casey?
Because his name was Casey, and it’s Pennsylvania, and it’s 2006?
I don’t know that he’s a complete loser, but for a Veep, you kind of need one of those.
Santorum also seems to think every problem this country has is because of the “homosexual agenda” He’s so twisted up with the topic he sounds like Roy Kohn, Terry Dolan, and other self-hating closet cases.
What are people drinking? Trust another African American who uses the race card? Trust a new face because you just like what he says? Trust someone with no political/voting record? These Tea Party people are acting just like the Obama zombies. I do not trust Herman Cain! Shame on you Kyle Anne!I thoutht you were smarter than that. Cain also stated he would support Mitt Romney 100% and would accept being his VP, but he could not support Rick Perry the same way and/or be his VP because Governor Perry’s immigration stand. Really? Does Cain think he can fool us? Gov. Perry is the only candidate who has had to deal with border security. As for the in-state tuition for children of illegal immigrants, everyone should know by now this was a State’s Right issue where the Texas legislation voted to support it 181 to 4 because Texas residents wanted it. What exactly does so-called Mr. Conservative Cain not understand about State’s Rights? Does Herman Cain care not about Romney’s Obamacare ruling when he was Governor in Mass? That was a government mandate! And how about Romney’s belief in the scam of Global Warming caused by humans? Romney is a well known RINO, so how come Herman Cain, Mr. Conservative, can support him but not Perry? What did Romney promised Cain? I smell something fishy here——–Herman Cain is not the person he appears to be. CAUTION: It is open season for naive patriots by opportunits. What best than an African American conservative who has mesmorized the Tea Party? Americans have learned nothing!
Elvira:
And then reality steps in.
WMUR.com 10-7-11
“Romney’s net favorability has remained high, at plus-47 percent.
Almost two-thirds of likely Republican voters (65 percent) believe Romney will win the primary, compared to just 4 percent who believe Paul or Perry will win.
Romney is also considered to have the best shot at defeating President Barack Obama among likely Republican voters. About 52 percent said the former Massachusetts governor had the best chance, followed by Perry at 7 percent, Cain at 5 percent and Paul at 5 percent.
The poll also surveyed a total of 559 likely general election voters, and it showed that in a hypothetical race between Obama and Romney, Romney would win 50 to 42 percent. The poll shows Romney leading among independents, 48 to 30 percent.
That poll sample has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4.1 percent.”
Read more: http://www.wmur.com/new-hampshire-primary-extended-coverage/29418241/detail.html#ixzz1a9fizclz
Blech.
Romney is popular because the GOP establishment is working hard in convincing conservatives that there is no alternative. They hate Rick Perry as demonstrated when they (Bush family,Karl Rove & all RINOs) supported the race of Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson for Governor against Rick Perry. They cannot stand the idea of a real Texan from humble beginnings become President. Romney is just another John McCain except for physical appearance. Romney has two major issues against him: Romneycare and his Energy/Environmental policy while Governor of Massachusetts.
It seems that people en masse never learn. So they can be, and maybe want to be manipulated by any person / group popular as in high school. The Big Man On Campus,the pretty sorority girls hanging on his every movement, the cheerleaders jumping up and down and twirling their pretty backsides to get the specators to jump for joy at their “star”.
Are Americans of any stripe, colour, sex, gender, politics left, right or independent really so juvenile they still hanker after a Kennedy or surrogate? A Kennedy clone as they did for Clinton and now some, we could have “hoped” would know better, are now doing for Romney.
Romney is “Republican” Kennedy. I suspect he runs as Repubublican, as do many others so-called only because the seats on the gravy train of politics are taken by socalled “Democrats”. What are “Independents” and adults, if there are any in the voting population, thinking in believing a professional politician, ANY professional politician shall be anything but a professional politician however his shills and “Mad Men” package him.
Haven’t Americans had enough yet of professional politicians with their lies and empty promises to gain the offices they then use to reward only special groups at the expense of the suckers who selected them for the job.
What happened to Independence as the watchword for Americans, locally, nationally and internationally?
It is open season for naive patriots by opportunits.
I never trust anybody who can’t spell opportunists.
It’s a rule of thumb I learned from my mama, and she knew everything.
No, my boy didn’t wear no one else’s hat, there was just some opportunits that jumped over from the next desk over.
Anonymous? What a coward! What about a typo? Or is that hard for you to understand? Apparently you have no facts.
Cain got played by the media again, as with the flavor of the week spin, trusting their version of the story. I don’t think he has ever been a race hustler and I expect him to slice and dice the Al Sharptons with a smile. He is courageous like Palin and is now beginning to kick media ass. I think conservatives have found their candidate. But, until Herman is sworn in, Sarah will continue to be the real leader in my book.
I am of the same opinion as you, and am still heart-sick that Sarah Palin is not going to run. But if that continues to be her position, then Mr. Cain would be my next choice. (I wish somehow they could become a duo, but I don’t see her as a second banana. I just don’t think she has the skills set for it.) Cain’s WSJ interview was very positive, and impressed me with the amount of analysis that appears to be behind his 9-9-9 plan.
Beyond that, he reminds me of the salt of the earth men (and women) in the compelling movie, “Courageous” that I saw yesterday (and that was filmed, coincidentally, in Georgia). We’re certainly overdue for this underestimated powerhouse to stand up and be heard from on a massive scale. I could see Cain leading.
And after Perry allows illegals to go to college with discounted tuition, and after those illegals get U.S. citizenship, they are going to turn right around and vote for Democrats!
Why do you suppose the Democrats want to legalize these aliens so badly? Because the Dems are salivating at the prospect of 12 million new Democrat voters, who might be enough to tip the Southwest blue and even perhaps put Texas in play. They’ve made no secret of that; they’ve said so publicly.
People who perceive themselves as downtrodden never vote for conservative Republicans. Perry doesn’t seem to get that we’ll be cutting our own political throats if we give these people citizenship.
Cain is not my first choice for the job, but among the crop actually running he is far and away better than the rest.
Herman Cain is the first candidate for any office that I have ever donated money to.
I think a debate with the child-in-chief and Herman should be pay-per-view. It would be the beating of the century.
That’s why Obama will never consent to it. What a shame.
I support Herman Cain because he is an intelligent and experienced Conservative. The Republican Party will not survive another RINO like Romney, who is the darling of the state-run media and therefore cannot beat Obama.
Perry is suspect as a Conservative, too. If he can keep his ILLEGAL ALIENS in Texas, fine. But they seem to migrate to other states once they gain sanctuary in Texas. If Perry wants to have a heart, he should find a way to send the ILLEGALS home, where he can then help them to make a better life for themselves. He might also brush up on the concept of RULE OF LAW.
I like Cain because he is not a RINO. I sincerely hope, if he becomes president, he will demonstrate the leadership needed, and return to his civilian life. This is what is needed, an end to the professional politician. His “how is that working out for you” response to his lack of political experience still rings true. We need the concerned, patriotic, statesmen to come forward to the aid of their country, and then return to civilian life. That said, I am troubled by his tendency to shoot from the hip on topics when he doesn’t have all the facts yet, and by his weakness in foreign policy.
Here is my dream ticket: Herman Cain: POTUS; Vice President: either Michelle Bachmann or Newt Gingrich (even though I am allergic to RINOs who would grow government); John Bolton, Secretary of State; Allen West, Secretary of Defense; Sarah Palin, Secretary of Energy.
What she (#21) said!!
Cain is great. He seems real and is capable. I’m a little concerned that his experience is still a too narrow for the presidency. Look at the inexperienced guy we have now! But the VP slot might be perfect for Cain to grow. He’d then be unbeatable after Romney’s two terms. Go Romney/Cain!
First, let me say I am a big Cain supporter. That said, when was the last time we elected a president that had no previous government experience. You can argue that this time is different – but why? How is it different from 1980 or 1968?
Cain has been an awesome CEO… but President can’t fire Maxine Waters, or even remove Cindy What’s-her-name from Pennsylvania Ave. It may not be a fair comparison, but governors Ventura and Schwarzenegger come to mind.
My dream ticket is Romney/Cain (second best – Perry / Ryan). And certainly – John Bolton, Secretary of State. Maybe even Ileana Ros-Lehtinen – UN Ambassador, Gov. Walker – Secretary of Labor (better yet – abolish darn thing altogether along with Dept of Education and EPA). But I am dreaming too far ahead
For the record, I didn’t see Dutch’s (#27) post as I was writing mine. I guess, great minds think alike!
Morehouse College vs Harvard Law, real life business success vs affirmative action flop.
Question: Is TOTUS allowed to attend the Cain vs Obama debate? It would be really really really unfair to Obama if TOTUS stayed home.
Am guessing that TOTUS will stay home but Obama will be fitted with some sort of listening device that will be even less noticeable than the one he used in the debates with Hillary. Obama will find a way to get the extra help he so desperately needs.
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You’re right, Kyle-Anne.
And, as has been noted in more than a few places, Herman Cain is visibly growing and improving as his candidacy moves forward.
I get the feeling that Cain is being groomed by the media as the guy they want opposing Obama to improve Obama’s chances.
I think they do this at their own peril.
Do you want a pizza with that?
Cain lost my attention with his crazy treatment of a rock that advertised plug tobacco. I’ve had my fill of Black people playing the race card.
That’s what I’m talking about.
#33: I agree. Cain has already proven he’ll play the race card. I am trusting Romney–whom I don’t like–to spend the bucks researching Cain’s actual business resume. Was real talent there, or Equal Opportunity giving a leg up? Any questionable ethics? Unfortunately for the truly exemplary minorities, Equal Opportunity has made me suspicious of successful minorities who may truly be worthy and not deserving of my skepticism. This is one of the down sides of looking at color rather than character, of looking at ethnicity rather than who is best qualified.
My 26-year-old son, (who I feel awkward to say is a genius by many and every IQ test administered in his youth), said, immediately after Obama’s election, that we had to elect 43 more minority Presidents in a row to prove we aren’t prejudiced. I hope he is wrong but he usually isn’t.
Prove to who? Him? Sounds like your boy genius harbors prejudiced feelings.
Let me say it real slowly: to…our…selves. Prove it to our endlessly guilty white selves. I knew my statement would be unpopular although it’s unfortunately obviously true in the current reality of this country. I said I hesitate to say he’s a genius, even though every IQ test he ever took proves it, because I knew at least one moron would take the easy cheap shot and play the race card on him, as you just did. My boy genius harbors resentment that whites are now discriminated against on job applications, by the DOJ, etc etc etc. Most galling of all, and any fool should be able to see it, we created prejudice against ourselves by electing politicians who played the same race card on us that you just played on me.
As yourselves this: if Cain were white, would we all be tripping over ourselves to jump on his bandwagon? Of couse not. If a white candidate dug up a decades old painted-over rock on some land Cain never owned and said “You can ALMOST read where it still says a racial slur,” the story would get no traction.
Ummm….Bull. First, scoring high on IQ tests (which measure a very narrow slice of “intelligence” has absolutely nothing to do with having wisdom, which is another thing entirely. Second, Buckeye never played the race card on you all. You’re seeing only what you want to see, it seems. Third, you ask the clearly racially-tinged question, “if Cain were white, would we all be tripping over ourselves to jump on his bandwagon?” The answer is of course we would. Unlike you, we don’t try to filter everything through a skin-color sieve. Yup, Cain is black. That really doesn’t mean much at all to true conservatives.
@Spike or Anonymous
“Let me say it real slowly: to…our…selves. Prove it to our endlessly guilty white selves.”
You can say it to youself even slower if you like. You speak for everyone? How presumptious. I know not of what guilt you speak or why should anyone carry it. Maybe you are speaking just for yourself and, apprarently, your boy genius. I’m sure he will be delighted that you speak for him in a public forum.
“I knew my statement would be unpopular although it’s unfortunately obviously true in the current reality of this country. I said I hesitate to say he’s a genius, even though every IQ test he ever took proves it,..”
I don’t care. He has no impact on the issues that concern me.
“..because I knew at least one moron would take the easy cheap shot and play the race card on him, as you just did.”
Race card? Re-read your statement.
“…Most galling of all, and any fool should be able to see it, we created prejudice against ourselves by electing politicians who played the same race card on us that you just played on me.”
I don’t vote for candidates making race an issue, it reveals alot about themselves, but soft, and hard for that matter, racism is a liberal game and they are successful at it.
“As yourselves this: if Cain were white, would we all be tripping over ourselves to jump on his bandwagon? Of couse not. If a white candidate dug up a decades old painted-over rock on some land Cain never owned and said “You can ALMOST read where it still says a racial slur,” the story would get no traction.”
I don’t know the “painted rock” story nor do I see how it really impacts what the issues are today. I’m seeking the closest candidate that holds the same conservative vaules I share— Ken Blackwell supporter that I was.
We all sound like the Dems in 2008. Got chills down your legs anyone?
The perfect crease in my pants just sagged a bit.
Stop bringing up race – it’s the least important thing in the next presidential race. His Perry comment was intended as an attack on racism, albeit a botched one. The race tempest if for lefties, not Libertarians.
Best bet to turn this country’s financial situation around from red to black isn’t a white man. It’s a man named Herman. In fact, I’d be proud to have a son with his character, compassion and capabilites. Come to think of it. I have two of them. Fine young men. I think I’ll suggest they consider voting for Herman Cain for President. A finer man we may not uncover in a decade of centuries. Obama, if this is what you mean when you call white tea party folks like me racists, I consider it a compliment.
Cain fits that image of a noble black man that mainstream America is fond of – either a charimatic speaker that invokes images of a powerful civil rights leader (Obama) or a fatherly figure of wisdom who speaks in low baritone (or is it bass) of dignity.
Image does matter. If Cain of Obama acted and blubbered like Jesse Jackson, they don’t have a potlical career. I definitely think Cain can win with the right kind of VP and advisers.
What Americans are sensing is the SINCERITY and SIMPLICITY of the man’s soul. His GOODNESS is an aura that follows him everywhere he goes. People are attracted to the fact of his being one of us, not a poll tested, air brushed, blow dried contrivance, but someone like the rest of us who took their lumps, made mistakes, and made a life for himself. And what a life. The son of a cleaning woman, and a chauffeur/janitor growing up in the south and through it all becoming an adult whose experience gave him the wisdom to lead. People are reacting the fact that he is an ADULT MAN. He is MANLY, he is patriotic, he exudes strength, so much unlike the pantywaisted jerk in the White House whose lily white upper middle class upbringing was so far different than many WHITE people in America. And the jerk claims he’s “down for the struggle”? Struggle for what? A better golf game? It is the difference between a MAN and a spoiled brat, a MAN and another pol whose promises and rhetoric will surely change once power is secured, the difference between the parade of greaseballs and liars the public has had to put up with for far too long and someone whose honesty has been regarded as a potential liability. People know the real thing when they see it. They know the truth when confronted with it. Herman Cain is no phony and the experience is so novel for many, they are staggered by it. Myself included.
Listen to us. Nauseating. I guess Cain is The One. I hope we regain our senses and put the same magnifying glass on his business practices that we do our politiciams’ political practices.
It should be no surprise that Americans elected an adolescent, it’s all about me, life’s a game, can’t be bothered with competence, as President. Who needs competence when handsome, glib with good shills to advertise your wares,with with right packaging people will buy anything. But electing a President is more than surfing the web or changing TV channels.
Its’ supposed to be one proof of coming of age, the age to vote with entry into adulthood. But with the popularity of eternal youth in all things, there you have it. And if what you choose doesn’t work out, there are drugs to soothe you or the big momma parent of Government to take away your troubles. It’s all showbiz or a rock concert. The government will fix everything. Big momma/pappa even made special categories of citizens -contrary to all the laws and principles of the nation- to show everybody it/she “cares”. And the citizens bought that with cheers to the rafters. Adolescents KNOW what fair is, don’t they?
That the government insists/ compels other citizens to pay for the “caring government” seems right to adolescents who neither know nor care about what the governemnt in America is all about. And it is NOT about being a parent, and holding the chilluns’ hands if they make wrong choices.
Obama is no aberration, but a true representative of the American People as they have become in the 20th and 21st centuries. More’s the pity that it took such a representative as Obama – don’t for a minute think Hlllary Clinton would have been different, only more polished – to send the message that it is necessary in a nation with a government that acts ONLY with the CONSENT of the governed, that the governed take care of who and why they elect to REPRESENT THEIR wishes.
And to distrust persons/groups who are “better than” ordinary Americans. Who believe they have the right to drive their selections with lies and false advertising.
I listen to Herman Cain’ speech yesterday broadcasted on C-Span.He rocked it!
Yes, well-spoken African-American man, seems very nice, gives a great speech. Gosh, who does that remind you of?
Another parallel with Obama 08.
I won’t vote for the Democrat race-baiter for president; I won’t vote for the Republican version of the same thing if they nominate Cain.
And, even with that digusting display of political opportunism aside, Cain – who I initially had a positive opinion of – has shown, each and every time he’s tried to answer a question about something other than business and the economy, that he is utterly unprepared to be President of the United States. Honestly, he’s been pretty shakey and vague even on some of the business/economics answers.
No thanks. No sale.
This has probably been said before but I can’t resist a good pun. Unlike the present POTUS, Cain is able.
Cain Mutiny.
Yes we Cain!
One thing is for sure: Romney needs to recede, diminsh, and just plain get out of the race so Conservatives can begin to consolidate.
Question: What could possibly prompt a President, seeking re-election, to raise a campaign warchest of OVER $1billion dollars?
Facts worthy of analysis:
1) topdown/bottom up and inside out (Van Jones’ blurb).
a. Top down – the troika Obama, Axelrod and Holder (that’s why Holder will not leave)are, at the get go, ready to “game” the system.
b. Bottom up – already in play, i.e., Operation Wall Street, et al.
c. Inside out – Cass Sustein, Sibelius, etc.They have tomes prepared for after Mr. Obama’s re-election.
2) The play book:
a. Mr. Holder’s DOJ will actively seek to file lawsuits in those precincts, in upcoming elections, showing Mr. Obama loosing to his opponent. Or other frivolous lawsuits designed to slow vote counts.
b. Legislative actions already underway in States having large electoral College Delegates where the National Popular Vote Movement has successfully introduced “winner takes all” legislation for upcoming 2012 Elections.
c. Every social service political organization, operating extra electorally but capable of influencing an elections outcome, is already actively seeking to increase voter rolls, positioning for bids to service voting equipment, etc.(organizations the likes of which are SEIU, AFL-CIO, moveon.org, PCCC, AFT, ChangeNation, Politico, NEA, AFSCME (federal employees union). et al.)
So, 1)a massive campaign warchest, 2) a philosophy “topdown/bottom up and inside out”, 3) a game plan, all already in place.
We The People vs. We the Elite People…the latter will NOT play by the rules.
Rule of Law means nothing to them. Their goal (already displayed innumerable ways, shape and form) is to discard Our beloved US Constitution, Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights replacing it with some UN sponsored charter.
We The People must stay the course by confronting an assault on We The People’s time immemorial beliefs that we are: 1) a God Fearing People, 2) Honor Our history, 3) Believe in American Exceptionalism, and 4) Love Our fellow mankind.
Vote massively this 2012 election because massive fraud as never before visited on these United States will unfold.God Bless America. Cain Can.
At least the hero worship is a bit diminished this time.
Cain seems to have been a good businessman…but we haven’t heard from anybody else about that yet. For that matter, like another recent presidential candidate, Cain is defined entirely by his own words about himself.
Cain talks a good conservative game…but he hasn’t even had to cast a vote or negotiate a compromise with the other or his own party. Maybe people should wait until he gets a hard question about a complex issue that can’t be answered by an accepted ultrs-conservative talking point.
Cain has a plan…have you read it? It will raise taxes on the lower 60% of the country and dramatically lower taxes on the top 10%. It’s dead on arrival. But it’s ok for him to offer a plan that has zero chance of being considered by his own party. He’s an outsider after all.
Cains has made more blunders than all of the other candidates put together. He has said a dozen things that would immediately be castigated if any other candidate had said them. But the pattern has been established. It’s perfectly ok for a black man to say stupid things if he no experience in politics. He’s “learning” fast.
It took him about 10 seconds to play the race card at his first opportunity.
If Cain somehow got the nomination, he would be ripped to shreds within a week by the mbm.
The LEAST conservatives should be doing is demanding that he be vetted and respond to hard questions about his positions and fitness to be president of the United States.
I can certainly understand why people like him. I just can’t understand why a serious person would support him when he has no track record in politics whatsoever. He’s as unknown as the left’s surprise candidate was in 2008. What an incredible roll of the dice he would be.
The hero worship doesn’t speak well for the reasoning power of a lot of people. Let Cain get elected to something, deal with some of the issues of the country in a non-fantasy setting, and then run for President. At least that would make SOME sense.
while i agree that alot of people are wearing rose colored glasses concerning Cain, he hasnt said anything worse than any of the other candidates. you have romney doing a complete 180 on many issues only a few years back so that he could run as a republican, perry saying people that dont support subsidizing illegals as heartless, sarah palin……she probably holds a record somewhere for stupid things she has said. *rollseyes* (i guess shes not actually a candidate now but who knows with her, her narcissism knows no bounds)
as for background experience he has FAR more than pretty much any two other candidates put together. this will be the first president that i can recall that has real degrees in both mathematics and computer science instead of a soft degree in law like so many other politicians these days. cain seems more like a numbers oriented guy and wont get hung up on amorphous stuff like our current president does. his education background is what actually first got me to sit up and pay attention to him as im a science and facts type guy myself.
as for him being black like obama…yes, herman cain is black as many people have pointed out; no, i dont think its some magical shield from the left and if people think that the media are going to be soft on him, i think they are deluding themselves. at most they might be a bit tepid at first but that will quickly disappear especially if he starts actually showing results.
Sure, they all have said their share of regretable things. I’m not sitting around measuring them, but one thing I know is that all of the other candidates have much longer track records of public statements to pick apart. Cain is practically a virgin, and he still is amassing a pile of dumb stuff in record time. What will he say when the mbm mob descends on him in earnest…which absolutely will NOT be during the primaries.
The two who appear to be able to handle the press are Romney and Gingrich, and even for them, it will be horrendous. For Cain, Katy bar the door.
As for your point about background, I disagree. Business experience is good, certainly a universe better than Community Agitator; I’m not knocking it, but for the role of President, it doesn’t begin to compare to experience as a governor or even as a seasoned legislator. And yes, I know Cain’s quip about it. Let him be the quipper in chief. I want a President who has exective experience in a political role. So I don’t think his experience is even close to being on an equal footing to Romney, Perry, or one of the other governors, or even Newt.
It doesn’t make me happy to appear to attack a person who I think is a good man who ought to be a role model to many Americans. But sorry, his experience and what he has demonstrated so far isn’t close to being enough to win my support for President.
To Proreason and others: Thank you for adding to my comments on Herman Cain. Excellent and logical thinking, for a change. We need to put emotions aside and use reasoning if we want to elect a conservative leader as President. At this crucial time in our country, we cannot rely on an unknown with no voting/government record. By the way, Herman Cain ran for the US Senate in 2004 and lost. In my book, that makes him a politician, just one who lost.
“Cain has a plan…have you read it? It will raise taxes on the lower 60% of the country and dramatically lower taxes on the top 10%. It’s dead on arrival. But it’s ok for him to offer a plan that has zero chance of being considered by his own party. He’s an outsider after all.”
Yet another eerie parallel with Obama and his earlier budget and current jobs plan. They had/have no chance of passing, even within the Dim party, but it sounds good and makes his peeps feel like he tried.
If nominated Herman Cain is a sure loser in November 2012. Telling unemployed people to blame themselves is no way to win friends and influence people. In an age of mass layoffs is Herman Cain the coldest and most heartless CEO ever? It seems that may be true.
Hey Doug Sterling… how is blaming everyone else working for ya? Maybe everyone looks heartless when you’re a sniveling thumb sucker like you. Go suck your thumb on Wall Street with the rest of those SEIU operatives. America is sick and tired of your selfish attitude and actions. WaaaaaaWaaaaWaaa!
Cain will beat Obama if he wins the Republican nomination; but so will any other Republican, as the Gallup generic election shows today.
But I have always wished that those polls that show a still high % of people that would still vote for Obama would ask me: What is Wrong With Those People?
Well, finally I found the poll that asked me just that. Using the latest Gallup Poll that shows in a generic election today 38% will vote for Obama against a generic Republican, they asked
HERE
According to the Poll Above, What Is Wrong with that 38%?
Answers:
*They are Just Plain Dumb.
** They are Reverse-Racists
*** They are Moochers & Free Loaders
**** They are actually Brilliant and Hard Working People
Cain’s race baiting attack on Perry would have been regrettable and misplaced pre-Obama; but after years of us continuously suffering similar attacks direct from the White House, Cain’s race card play must be disqualifying.
In addition to the not so veiled accusations of racism the WaPo and Cain hunting camp attacks had anti-gun and anti-hunting undertones that trouble me as a shooter, hunter, and liberty minded American.
I am not alone in my concern about Herman Cain’s real views. Gun Owners of America has expressed concern about Cain’s lack of any record on RKBA issues and his stalling / refusal to answer their questions: http://gunowners.org/a09302011…
Guns are viewed very differently by different groups. Mao said “Power flows from the barrel of a gun.” The Left ardently believe Mao and are just as ardent in their desire to be the only ones with guns. Turning Mao on his head, (Someone should have before 1950.) most Americans believe that Liberty flows from the barrel of a gun. African-Americans regrettably in numbers not too different from their 98 percent support for Obama believe that only the crime that kills their youths and destroys their communities flows from the barrel of a gun.
What does Herman Cain believe?
Herman Cain has no record to check.
Herman Cain is not answering the questions.
Let’s learn more about Cain than what he tells us before we annoint him. The frenzy of over-the-top superlatives on this page have me half-way considering Soros is backing Cain. I’ve been expecting Soros to send Hillary in if re-election looks too Obyssmal. Wouldn’t the joke be on us if he feinted to the Right? Wouldnt all us Obama hating conservatives love to prove to our nervous selves that we aren’t racist by voting for Cain? Anyone feeling manipulated?
I don’t really believe that, but I am distressed to see intelligent commenters in these pages sounding like the Left sounded 4 years ago. EXACTLY like the Left. Let’s not take Cain at his own word just because we like how he sounds! He played the race card against Perry while at the same time admitting he didn’t know the facts. How is that different from Obama’s ” the police acted stupidly” remark? Watch Cain’s interview with Amanpour on CNN if you need to hear it with your own ears.
Excuse me– the interview was on ABC. Cain basically said that Perry showed insensitivity because he’s been going there a long time, and that yes, the rock has been painted over, but who knows for how long. That means Cain doesn’t know either, but he seized the race card. This doesn’t just show lack of political experience. This shows that the race card is in his bag of tricks and he will use it.
The eerie parallels are starting to pile up: an unknown Black man with a gift for gab and no executive decisions in public office to have to defend. Vague plans that sound good but have no chance of being passed. We are still watching the corruption and destruction that a President can cause in 4 years. Are we going to blindly trust another unknown for another 4?
I like Herman Cain – however, I would like to understand more about his Federal Reserve Bank participation in Kansas. Is he a secret trilateral/globalist? What was he doing working for this sinister banker-wanker agency?
Why is no one in the media investigating this?
I just wish someone would, for once, get their story straight about Rick Perry and the “in state” tuition deal. Rick Perry has said many times that he would prefer not to have to deal with the children of illegals. Border enforcement is a Federal responsibility, not a Texas State government problem. The Feds have, for as long as I’ve been alive, refused to control the U.S./Mexican border.
Illegals are a fact of life in Texas, what would you have us do with them? We can’t shoot them, we can’t deport them, we can’t employ them,,, what are we supposed to do with them? I think Rick Perry’s decision to go ahead and allow for their education and a future not on welfare is a case of the Governor making lemonade when handed a bunch of bad lemons.
If people want to make an political issue out of this they should first go make border enforcement an issue with Washington DC.
Washington Post:
“Did immigrants take the vast majority of new jobs in Texas? That’s the claim coming from the Center for Immigration Studies, an advocacy group for immigration reduction.
A new CIS research memo concludes that 81 percent of the jobs created in Texas since 2007 have gone to newly arrived immigrant workers—93 percent of whom aren’t US citizens and half of whom are illegal immigrants.
The authors based their analysis on the Census Bureau’s Current Population Survey, and their conclusions have gained particular traction as attacks have mounted against Rick Perry’s immigration record. “Should Rick Perry be bragging about a job creation record if 40 percent went to illegal immigrants?” writes the National Review.”
I agree that the instate tuition argument against Perry is bogus. So is the “magnet” explanation. Mexicans don’t come to the US just because instate tuition works as a “magnet”. They come to US because it is the United States of America and not the loser country called Mexico.
But that is typically Romney rhetoric. And just another reason not to trust Romney. He is using demagogic rhetoric to attack other conservatives. Also the attack on Perry’s comparison of Social Security to a Ponzi scheme tells me that Romney is just not conservative. He has no principles. He has no intention of reforming entitlement programs. He just want to get to the white house any way possible. First by appealing enough to conservatives to win the nomination. Then he will flip flop and appeal to liberals enough to win the presidency.
When that is said. The reason people got turned of Perry in relation to the instate tuition issue was primarily his “They don’t have a heart” remark – not just the policy itself. That remark told me that that Perry has problems with separating his principles from policy that comes out of necessary compromises. Just because you engage in compromises doesn’t mean that you have to realign your principles to the compromise policy. You should know when you make a policy decision for practical reasons. And not confuse them with your principles.
I don’t consider him a front runner. I think there’s a lot of hoopla surrounding him, but people better be careful. Just don’t get caught up in it, and not think about it. What I mean is, don’t get caught up in the “We have a black Conservative thing.”
I’m very uncomfortable with the chumminess of him and Romney. It reminds me of what Huckabee and McCain did to Romney in the 08 election, and we were stuck with McCain. Herman Cain is saying some good things, but I was turned off when he said, I’ll consider being a VP for anyone but Romney. If they’re attacking Perry, there’s a reason for it. Here’s a good ad from Perry.
http://www.therightscoop.com/new-perry-ad-romney-obama-carbon-copies/
Every concerned Republican voter should watch this speech.
PLEASE take the time to watch the whole thing.
http://www.therightscoop.com/herman-cain-brings-the-house-down-at-values-voter-summit/
It answered a lot of doubts for me.
What replaces Obamacare? What replaces Dodd-Frank? Cain says himself that Ron Paul sounds like a grumply old man, because he wants to dismantle this and dismantle that.
The Federal Deficit Gets Nearly Indecipherable
http://www.bizzyblog.com/2009/05/31/the-federal-deficit-gets-indecipherable/
I like Herman Cain. As for no record, he is on record as going against Clinton on Hilarycare and doing so in a very informed and intelligent way. Unlike Obama, we know he worked. I would like to see him vetted more so we know what the dirt will be.
Romney, eh, I’m not impressed any more this time than I was last time.
Thanks AprilNovember — great speech and either he reads a teleprompter so smoothly you can’t tell he’s doing it or . . . he doesn’t have one! I truly believe Cain is genuine.
I too am extremely impressed with Mr.Cain. I also found it extraordinary that as I traveled to Isreal for Becks “Stand with Courage” events that Herman was there-the only candidate running to be a part of supporting Isreal and actually show up! He sat quietly among all of us other patriots never seeking any special attention or asking Beck or his staff for anything-this man is the real deal-WE MUST GET HIM THE NUMBER 1 Or 2 SLOT!
WEEEELLl Cindy, Al “the greaser” sharpton…says Cain is not “black enough”…and you Al, he speaks for the world with his grasp of knowledge.
so, all you blacks out there…better check with Cain to see how to not be black enough…it is turning out to be a good thing.. What ever the heck Al meant…is beyond me..he’s befuddled in stewpudite
Gov. Perry may not have attended Glenn Beck’s event but he has visited Israel and is a strong supporter. Recently you may remember that the Freedom Flotilla II was tied up legally and never got out of Greek ports. Gov. Perry met with some lawyers in Israel who organized a “lawfare” strategy. Perry told them that he loved what they were doing and that if they ever needed help he would be there to assist. And he did, by writing a formal letter on his governor stationery to Attorney General Holder warning him that American flotilla participants could be violating the Neutrality Act.
In the past week, Mr. Cain has told the street protesters to grow up and grow a pair and told Lawrence O’Donnell that his gotcha interview questions were stupid.
(That’s the gist, I editorialize Cain’s exact remarks)
Such refreshing truth & candor from an individual seeking political office should have you turning cartwheels.
Personally I don’t care that Cain doesn’t have a voting record that we can pick apart – as a non-politician at least he doesn’t owe anyone anything. His success is truly his own. I trust his judgement enough to believe that he would surround himself with excellent advisors, and then have the wisdom to determine if he should listen to them or not. I prefer to judge this man on the content of his character, and yes, if he were white or blue or pink, I would vote for him. I may not agree with him 100% on some social issues, but I do believe that this man would defend our Constitution to the best of his ability regardless of his own personal preferences. His 9-9-9 plan at least IS a plan, and everyone should familiarize themselves with it – it is beneficial to the lower and middle class, and would definitely level the playing field with China and our other trade partners. We do not need any more lawyers as presidents, and I think it is high time America beats Obama with a Cain!
I wish you all the best, Mr. Cain. From what I have learned of you to date, you strike me as being a mainstream conservative. But please learn from your early mistakes. You should not have taken the MSM bait regarding the gay-soldier non-flap. I mean, come on, you were there. You know what really happened. Two or three individuals out of an audience of 5,000+ voiced displeasure over the soldier’s *remarks* defending the overturning of DADT. You revealed yourself to be a panderer on that occasion. Not the sort of Profile in Courage that we are looking for. And then there are your personal attacks on Perry, and the whole MSM trumped-up “rock” thing. PLEASE, do not fall into their “narrative” of falsely discrediting Republican nominees on the basis of trivial made-up BS. Keep your head screwed on. Sure, you want to rise to the top, but there’s no need to echo lying Democrat sleaze to get there. I want to support your candidacy. But I will not if you do not wise up to the trap that the MSM is setting for you. I will vote for you over Obama, most certainly. But I will not accept you as nominee of the GOP if you continue to demonstrate yourself to be a PC dupe and a race-card flasher. We want HONESTY, Mr. Cain. Above all else. We lost our best hope for that when Palin announced that she would not pursue the nomination. Can you, Mr. Cain, fill her shoes? That is what I am asking myself as I watch your remarkable rise in the polls. November 2012 is more than a year away. Don’t go adding a “Mc” to your name on us.
Maybe since the economy is so bad we should consider the candidate with the chops in leading the government side of a successful economy.
Perry may not be responsible for economic growth in Texas, but he obviously managed to not screw it up.
one word….unelectable!
Obama v. ??? = Obama Win, simple..
The thing about Cain is he doesn’t speak in a mind of reason or diplomacy. If it’s my fault that I paid College Tuition and have a BA in Business and a MBA in Business Marketing and Administration or any degree and I cannot find a job, but I got a $30,000 dollar bill from the Dept. Of Education and that’s my fault? No, this system and it’s design is at fault..
If you try to continue to live in a broken society or system and every so often you decide to put a band-aid on a particular problem … Pretty soon “people” “humanity” will prevail over “systems”.. Every Politician will come in with their great ideas to fix this and fix that, but again will not suceed, because the system is broken… “Capitalism” is broken.. You cannot have a Capitalist society and expect it to operate with diplomatic principles..
I will say it again… YOU CANNOT have a CAPITALISTIC society and expect it to OPERATE within DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES..
Capitalism and Democracy are polar opposites.. This of it this way, have you ever taken 2 magnets and tried to stick them together? Call magnet A Capitalism and magnet B Democracy they won’t embrace.. There is a force between them that won’t allow them to join… That force can be a number of things..
So the President doesn’t matter, the govenor, the mayor, that alderman, the congress, the vote.. it’s all useless.. with all efforts to keep “the people” brainwashed.. willing to except what “we” give them, willing to “take it laying down”.. willing to live their live “eyes wide shut”..
People debate democrat v republican; conservative v liberal.. and it’s all a waste of time.. This country belongs to the people.. This land is your land this land is my land.. It’s not black it’s not white.. it’s not indian it’s not hispanic.. This is our property..
Everyone is told, hey drink this, it’s good for you.. Don’t eat that.. Don’t smoke those.. Wear your seatbelt.. Boys like blue, Girls like pink.. take this pill.. Brainwashing.. and it’s working like a charm..
We keep our money.. You break your neck to get a slice a bread..
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