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		<title>By: Are you really doing a favour by doing it for me? &#124; Tomasz Gorecki &#124; Debt In Your 20's Is The Kiss of Death</title>
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		<dc:creator>Are you really doing a favour by doing it for me? &#124; Tomasz Gorecki &#124; Debt In Your 20's Is The Kiss of Death</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Shake Me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shake Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 16:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m reading this article as an antidote to an experience I&#039;ve just had with the parents of two students who plagiarized on one of my classroom assignments.  When asked to re-do the assignment, these two indignant young ladies complained to their parents who wasted no time in getting on the phone to plan their joint counterattack.  This year alone, this is the fifth situation where parents have felt entitled to rudely attack my credentials, my experience, and my character when my evaluations of their students&#039; work don&#039;t correlate to their version of reality.  See the post from Bill the Marine above -- you get the picture.  I work in a community with similarly bullish adults who&#039;ve been trained to think we&#039;re in a constant state of war and act accordingly even in the civilian world.  And, yes, Bill, union or not, I do stand up to these parents, and as a result, I spend a lot of time in the principal&#039;s office when I should be attending to the needs of the children who belong to the new Silent Majority. 

Unfortunately, these kinds of parents make it difficult for teachers to appreciate those who genuinely express their concerns in a polite, professional manner with thoughtful questions and mutually respectful objectivity about their student&#039;s achievement.  It gets harder and harder to separate the bad apples when you&#039;ve eaten a worm so many times.  It helps to see here that the parental community is having this discussion -- I just wish some of you could show up at my next parent conference!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading this article as an antidote to an experience I&#8217;ve just had with the parents of two students who plagiarized on one of my classroom assignments.  When asked to re-do the assignment, these two indignant young ladies complained to their parents who wasted no time in getting on the phone to plan their joint counterattack.  This year alone, this is the fifth situation where parents have felt entitled to rudely attack my credentials, my experience, and my character when my evaluations of their students&#8217; work don&#8217;t correlate to their version of reality.  See the post from Bill the Marine above &#8212; you get the picture.  I work in a community with similarly bullish adults who&#8217;ve been trained to think we&#8217;re in a constant state of war and act accordingly even in the civilian world.  And, yes, Bill, union or not, I do stand up to these parents, and as a result, I spend a lot of time in the principal&#8217;s office when I should be attending to the needs of the children who belong to the new Silent Majority. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, these kinds of parents make it difficult for teachers to appreciate those who genuinely express their concerns in a polite, professional manner with thoughtful questions and mutually respectful objectivity about their student&#8217;s achievement.  It gets harder and harder to separate the bad apples when you&#8217;ve eaten a worm so many times.  It helps to see here that the parental community is having this discussion &#8212; I just wish some of you could show up at my next parent conference!</p>
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		<title>By: LM</title>
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		<dc:creator>LM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 08:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a teacher with 10 years of experience. My experience has mainly been at poor and lower middle class schools.  This is my first year teaching at an upperclass school and I definitely see the helicopter parent phenomena destroying this next generation of affluent kids.  The old saying is still true: &quot;adversity builds character.&quot;  This generation of affluent kids have been overly shielded from adversity and are not developing the character and coping skills to make it in the future.  

For years, I taught at an inner city school and helped many kids understand math and life in general.  It was very easy to do this because the parents and kids understood the importance of what I was doing.  Parents were grateful for my contributions to their child&#039;s life.  Kids would wrtie long thank you letters for helping them to understand Math for the first time.  These kids would leave my class ready for future Math classes and ready to face high school and life challenges. 

I really don&#039;t think that the parents of the upperclass will allow me to prepare their children for high school or life.  Each time their son or daughter gets a D or F, we have to meet to better understand what could have possibly been wrong with my test.  There was one student who would repeatedly disrupt the class and mom would come to bail her out just as quick.  Discipline did not work for this kid because she already knew that she could do whatever she wanted and mom would automatically come to her rescue.  Could you imagine this kid in high school or college? There is one little boy who I fear may commit suicide because he has internalized the anxieties of his helicopter mom.  

This helicopter parenting trend may cause this generation of affluent kids to be in worst shape than their inner city counterparts. Now I understand why more companies are moving overseas-I could not possibly imagine the future work ethic of these youngsters.  It is really scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a teacher with 10 years of experience. My experience has mainly been at poor and lower middle class schools.  This is my first year teaching at an upperclass school and I definitely see the helicopter parent phenomena destroying this next generation of affluent kids.  The old saying is still true: &#8220;adversity builds character.&#8221;  This generation of affluent kids have been overly shielded from adversity and are not developing the character and coping skills to make it in the future.  </p>
<p>For years, I taught at an inner city school and helped many kids understand math and life in general.  It was very easy to do this because the parents and kids understood the importance of what I was doing.  Parents were grateful for my contributions to their child&#8217;s life.  Kids would wrtie long thank you letters for helping them to understand Math for the first time.  These kids would leave my class ready for future Math classes and ready to face high school and life challenges. </p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t think that the parents of the upperclass will allow me to prepare their children for high school or life.  Each time their son or daughter gets a D or F, we have to meet to better understand what could have possibly been wrong with my test.  There was one student who would repeatedly disrupt the class and mom would come to bail her out just as quick.  Discipline did not work for this kid because she already knew that she could do whatever she wanted and mom would automatically come to her rescue.  Could you imagine this kid in high school or college? There is one little boy who I fear may commit suicide because he has internalized the anxieties of his helicopter mom.  </p>
<p>This helicopter parenting trend may cause this generation of affluent kids to be in worst shape than their inner city counterparts. Now I understand why more companies are moving overseas-I could not possibly imagine the future work ethic of these youngsters.  It is really scary.</p>
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		<title>By: mom aga</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom aga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#31 Xanthippe
ironically, the helicopter parents and inattentive parents I know are, all too often, the same parents!  When they pay attention, they are the biggest interferers you can imagine.  But, when they choose to not pay attention, their kids could practically murder someone in front of them, and at best they&#039;d call out a vague instructions to &#039;play nice!&#039;  And should their kids misbehaviour actually cause a problem, then in a blink of an eye, it&#039;s &#039;Heli-mode ON!&#039;

I guess I got lucky, my parents were born just pre-war.  A bit older than the babyb-boomers, so we were raised with the mentality of a previous generation.  I knew some kids whose parents were pushy and too involved, but not many. Most of us were embarrassed for their sake when their parents showed up at school. 

When I had my kids in my very early twenties, many of the parents I knew were baby-boomers who came late to the parenting game.  I was constantly befuddled by what I saw as extreme involvement. On the one hand, it was good to see dad&#039;s making more of an effort to be involved, but to be constantly in the teacher&#039;s business and never recognizing that your kid could be less than top of the list in some way, was weird. I was more inclined to be like my mom, send &#039;em to school, volunteer occaisionally, at some point be room mom. I soon realized that room mom was going to be way more effort than I could afford to put in, I&#039;d have to leave it to someone who could afford to stay home with her kids and therefore make a career out of cupcakes and playground duty. 

20-years later, I have another little one.  I&#039;m now one of those late to parenting moms.  There is something to be said about the helicoptering coming from being parents later and to fewer kidas.  There is a level of preciousness, an awareness of irreplacibility, with this boy that I never felt as a 22 year old parent of two kids and expectation of having as large a family as I grew up in.  That didn&#039;t pan out, and by the time having more kids was an option, it wasn&#039;t so easily acheived. He is the reward of a lot of time and effort anda is highly unlikely to have a younger sibling.  I can see being a bit protective if he was my first and only!  But, I&#039;ll try to be the same parent I was.  The first two turned out rather well, and were self-supporting before most of their friends emerged from the cocoon of college.  Being a step-back parent seems harder though, as so much of the helicoptering has become entrenched and expected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#31 Xanthippe<br />
ironically, the helicopter parents and inattentive parents I know are, all too often, the same parents!  When they pay attention, they are the biggest interferers you can imagine.  But, when they choose to not pay attention, their kids could practically murder someone in front of them, and at best they&#8217;d call out a vague instructions to &#8216;play nice!&#8217;  And should their kids misbehaviour actually cause a problem, then in a blink of an eye, it&#8217;s &#8216;Heli-mode ON!&#8217;</p>
<p>I guess I got lucky, my parents were born just pre-war.  A bit older than the babyb-boomers, so we were raised with the mentality of a previous generation.  I knew some kids whose parents were pushy and too involved, but not many. Most of us were embarrassed for their sake when their parents showed up at school. </p>
<p>When I had my kids in my very early twenties, many of the parents I knew were baby-boomers who came late to the parenting game.  I was constantly befuddled by what I saw as extreme involvement. On the one hand, it was good to see dad&#8217;s making more of an effort to be involved, but to be constantly in the teacher&#8217;s business and never recognizing that your kid could be less than top of the list in some way, was weird. I was more inclined to be like my mom, send &#8216;em to school, volunteer occaisionally, at some point be room mom. I soon realized that room mom was going to be way more effort than I could afford to put in, I&#8217;d have to leave it to someone who could afford to stay home with her kids and therefore make a career out of cupcakes and playground duty. </p>
<p>20-years later, I have another little one.  I&#8217;m now one of those late to parenting moms.  There is something to be said about the helicoptering coming from being parents later and to fewer kidas.  There is a level of preciousness, an awareness of irreplacibility, with this boy that I never felt as a 22 year old parent of two kids and expectation of having as large a family as I grew up in.  That didn&#8217;t pan out, and by the time having more kids was an option, it wasn&#8217;t so easily acheived. He is the reward of a lot of time and effort anda is highly unlikely to have a younger sibling.  I can see being a bit protective if he was my first and only!  But, I&#8217;ll try to be the same parent I was.  The first two turned out rather well, and were self-supporting before most of their friends emerged from the cocoon of college.  Being a step-back parent seems harder though, as so much of the helicoptering has become entrenched and expected.</p>
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		<title>By: LuckyLucy</title>
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		<dc:creator>LuckyLucy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info Jimbo, though I read Freakonomics too by the way.  

Too bad the journalist doesn&#039;t cite any stats or books.  My comments were about the writer, not the subject.  Unsubstantiated venom is so tiresome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info Jimbo, though I read Freakonomics too by the way.  </p>
<p>Too bad the journalist doesn&#8217;t cite any stats or books.  My comments were about the writer, not the subject.  Unsubstantiated venom is so tiresome.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donna B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 03:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing in this article was directed at parents of special needs children, whether it&#039;s autism, dyslexia, or some other combination of physical and intellectual educational needs.

I raised three children and one of my proudest moments (I had many) as a mother was when my daughter was upset with her English teacher. This happened to be the same English teacher her older sister had had problems with so I was ready to do battle.

Unlike her older sister, who just said &quot;Mom, don&#039;t embarrass me by showing up at school&quot; the younger one explained that she could handle the problem by herself, she just wanted me to listen to her rant about it.

On the other hand, when my physically disabled son was given an F in math because his penmanship was poor, I raised a stink. I told them it was fine to give him an F in penmanship, but not in math if they could read the answers (and they admitted they could). I suggested this was unfair for every student, not just my son.

I also raised a stink when the school prohibited him from taking part in any physical education activities at all. We reached a compromise that he would only be kept out of activities that required climbing. 

Schools aren&#039;t perfect, and it&#039;s well that parents realize the schools hold to their own self-interest first. But when it came to grades, I mostly just asked my children if they&#039;d done the best they could and if they had, then they had to learn to live with it. If they hadn&#039;t (most often the case) then it was up to them to change that.

Each child is different and each needs a different level of parental involvement. My youngest wanted to discuss everything with me, she asked for my input on almost everything she wrote until college, when she thought having me proofread her work was a violation of the honor code.

She did send me a law review article she wrote and asked my opinion on only one part of it -- was it understandable by someone who wasn&#039;t a lawyer.

There is no one answer, but fairness must be considered first of all. Don&#039;t blame the school when it&#039;s your or your child&#039;s fault, but hold them accountable when they &quot;pick&quot; on someone or some group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing in this article was directed at parents of special needs children, whether it&#8217;s autism, dyslexia, or some other combination of physical and intellectual educational needs.</p>
<p>I raised three children and one of my proudest moments (I had many) as a mother was when my daughter was upset with her English teacher. This happened to be the same English teacher her older sister had had problems with so I was ready to do battle.</p>
<p>Unlike her older sister, who just said &#8220;Mom, don&#8217;t embarrass me by showing up at school&#8221; the younger one explained that she could handle the problem by herself, she just wanted me to listen to her rant about it.</p>
<p>On the other hand, when my physically disabled son was given an F in math because his penmanship was poor, I raised a stink. I told them it was fine to give him an F in penmanship, but not in math if they could read the answers (and they admitted they could). I suggested this was unfair for every student, not just my son.</p>
<p>I also raised a stink when the school prohibited him from taking part in any physical education activities at all. We reached a compromise that he would only be kept out of activities that required climbing. </p>
<p>Schools aren&#8217;t perfect, and it&#8217;s well that parents realize the schools hold to their own self-interest first. But when it came to grades, I mostly just asked my children if they&#8217;d done the best they could and if they had, then they had to learn to live with it. If they hadn&#8217;t (most often the case) then it was up to them to change that.</p>
<p>Each child is different and each needs a different level of parental involvement. My youngest wanted to discuss everything with me, she asked for my input on almost everything she wrote until college, when she thought having me proofread her work was a violation of the honor code.</p>
<p>She did send me a law review article she wrote and asked my opinion on only one part of it &#8212; was it understandable by someone who wasn&#8217;t a lawyer.</p>
<p>There is no one answer, but fairness must be considered first of all. Don&#8217;t blame the school when it&#8217;s your or your child&#8217;s fault, but hold them accountable when they &#8220;pick&#8221; on someone or some group.</p>
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		<title>By: The Dangers of Helicopter Parenting : I Think Therefore I Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dangers of Helicopter Parenting : I Think Therefore I Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: And Now, For Something Completely Different</title>
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		<dc:creator>And Now, For Something Completely Different</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 00:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] didn&#8217;t realize it, but my column on the pitfalls of Helicopter Parenting ran last week at Pajamas [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comment about the F in the article: &quot;Even if Mom knows Joey was playing video games in his room when he should have been studying, and that living with an F is a good way for him to learn about the consequences of bad choices, she still worries what other people will think&quot;

Here&#039;s the rub.  Johnnie may not (probably doesn&#039;t) care if he got an F.  How many people are truly self-motivated?  If the kid doesn&#039;t care and the parents don&#039;t care, then of course Johnny will &#039;earn&#039; straight F&#039;s.  It&#039;s a disservice to your kids to not be involved in their schoolwork.  

If they are playing video games instead of doing homework, don&#039;t you think it&#039;s your job to enforce the work-before-play rule?  Or do you think all kids are born being perfect?   If the parents take no responsibility or interest in their kids lives, i guarantee you, the kids will not be motivated.  It doesn&#039;t get better once they leave the nest, either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment about the F in the article: &#8220;Even if Mom knows Joey was playing video games in his room when he should have been studying, and that living with an F is a good way for him to learn about the consequences of bad choices, she still worries what other people will think&#8221;</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the rub.  Johnnie may not (probably doesn&#8217;t) care if he got an F.  How many people are truly self-motivated?  If the kid doesn&#8217;t care and the parents don&#8217;t care, then of course Johnny will &#8216;earn&#8217; straight F&#8217;s.  It&#8217;s a disservice to your kids to not be involved in their schoolwork.  </p>
<p>If they are playing video games instead of doing homework, don&#8217;t you think it&#8217;s your job to enforce the work-before-play rule?  Or do you think all kids are born being perfect?   If the parents take no responsibility or interest in their kids lives, i guarantee you, the kids will not be motivated.  It doesn&#8217;t get better once they leave the nest, either.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkD</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had two daughters who participated in club gymnastics and saw no helicopter parents.  The kids can do a move, or not.  You can&#039;t fake it.  Mom and dad can&#039;t help.  The coach, a great guy, would not tolerate parental interference.  Serious injury is always a possibility at the higher levels.  

My job was to drive them to practice, every day, then make sure the homework got done.  It made for late dinner times, and two self confident and physically fit adults who know they earned everything they got.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had two daughters who participated in club gymnastics and saw no helicopter parents.  The kids can do a move, or not.  You can&#8217;t fake it.  Mom and dad can&#8217;t help.  The coach, a great guy, would not tolerate parental interference.  Serious injury is always a possibility at the higher levels.  </p>
<p>My job was to drive them to practice, every day, then make sure the homework got done.  It made for late dinner times, and two self confident and physically fit adults who know they earned everything they got.</p>
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