Has Obama Derangement Syndrome Arrived?
The day after President Barack Obama became our 44th president, I compiled a roundup of reaction to his inaugural address, beginning with Philip Klein’s assessment at the American Spectator that it was “a rather flat and unfocused talk without any memorable lines.” But I also noted the hyperbolic hosannas from Walter Shapiro of the New Republic, who asserted that Obama’s speech was so splendid that it “reminded the nation that here was a man who wrote himself into his job.”
That pushed my button. Back in May, an article recounting the sweetheart book deal Obama got as a 28-year-old Harvard Law student prompted me to create a humorous Facebook group, Authors Against Obama. Anyone who’s ever suffered through the hellacious process of publishing a book must surely be irritated to learn that (a) Obama had been sought out by a literary agent on the basis of a New York Times article about his becoming the first black editor of the Harvard Law Review, (b) the agent got this beginner signed with Simon & Schuster, (c) Obama botched that deal, only to be signed to another contract with another major publisher for a reported $40,000 advance, and then (d) having been contracted to write a book about race relations, instead delivered a memoir.
A memoir! As I said at the time, no 28-year-old should be paid to write a memoir unless he led the league in RBIs and helped the Yankees win the World Series.
That joke bounced around the Internet for a few days last spring, even as some conservatives mused more seriously about how many other times Obama had been favored with similar good fortune. It wasn’t exactly a conspiracy theory, but several in the blogosphere wondered how one person could get so many amazingly good breaks. One reader called to my attention a January 2008 American Thinker article in which Jack Cashill examined what he interpreted as evidence that Obama’s memoir Dreams From My Father had been ghost-written by — wait for it — Bill Ayers.
Well, you can take up that argument with Jack Cashill, but if a New Republic writer is going to cite Obama’s inaugural address as evidence of our new president’s incomparable authorial gifts, I’m certainly not going to neglect to mention that at least one critic suspects the auteur benefited from a generous portion of Editorial Helper.
Mention something like that, however, and you’ll quickly find yourself accused of Obama Derangement Syndrome (ODS), a dementia now allegedly rampant among conservatives, just as Bush Derangement Syndrome (BDS) went viral among liberals the past eight years.
“…and you’ll quickly find yourself accused of Obama Derangement Syndrome (ODS)”
The left-wing establishment is trying to persuade the general public into believing that any and all criticism of President Barack Obama is irrational. Only deranged “haters” find fault with the Messiah. This tactic unfortunately was successful during the Clinton era. Rational and careful people were confused with those fools who contended, “Bill and Hillary are murdering their enemies. Vince Foster’s death was not a suicide.” Thankfully, the year is 2009. We can make use of the new media and significantly lessen this threat.
The description ‘Obama Derangement Syndrome’ could cut both ways really.
Walter Shapiro of the New Republic, who asserted that Obama’s speech was so splendid that it “reminded the nation that here was a man who wrote himself into his job.”…
Hmmm, what speech was Shapiro listening to?
Obama sounded like the same old stutter monkey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdxP85ouT9c) he always has, no substance, no style, no reason to listen…
Emma is close. I am fully of the view that it is the Left that has Obama Derangement Syndrome — it’s just that they Love Big Brother O the same way that they hated Hated Emmanuel Goldstein Bush. We’ll soon have 2 Minutes Hate regularly for Rush Limbaugh.
I Think Obama is just the Poster Child of all the other “syndromes”. (After all, nothing is known about him because he hides everything).
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*DBMDS…Drive-by Media Derangement Syndrome.
*ADS…..Acorn ” ”
*VFDS….Voter Fraud ” ”
*BFDS….Barney Frank ” ” “
My affliction with this syndrome started months ago after it became clear that this empty suit may just claim the big prize – the presidency. I marvel that so many intelligent people, many of my friends included, are so swept up by his rhetoric. It must be genetic.
Obama pledged to cut spending by going over the federal budget “line by line,” but one of his first acts will be to sign a bill containing $1 trillion of new federal spending, much of which is politely referred to as pork. But anyone who dares criticize “The One” is susceptible to being diagnosed with ODS. There is a fringe group that wants H thrown out because (a) he has a phony birth certificate or (b) he botched one word in the Presidential oath. But the mainstream of Republican and conservative thought is that his agenda is out of whack, won’t end the recession and will only result in more government and more government dependence – which is the real agenda of the President and the blue Congress. This is not the irrational hatred of an individual, as characterized BDS, but a disagreement over policy.
I am tired of hearing about BO and hope I am not in an insane asylum 4 years from now. I think the most irritating part of it all, is the love affair that the MSM is having with him. Their inability to hold BO or his administration accountable for anything that could be percieved as being negative, has made me place them on the same level as the National Enquirer. They have absolutley ZERO credibility and I refuse to read their newspapers, magazine articles or watch the TV programs.
“Obama Derangement Syndrome.”
= The right-wingers complex of inferiority.
ODS is merely the Obama version of what the Soviets did to dissenters before they ended up in mental institutions. And some people buy into it. The “conservatives” that go along with this are usually RINOs or someone trying to get an interview.
The point about there being no conservative counterpart to the gyrations of Code Pink and ANSWER for eight years is well taken. The reason is that conservatives are out taking care of business, not hiding from the world in their own fantasies and delusions.
I’m not worried about Obama-worship as long as there are alternate sources of media (which there are plenty of) with a growing audience (hmm).
It’s the latter which worries me. I’ll feel a lot more comfortable when I see more Americans not take the diversity in media – the fact we have so many different, competing voices – for granted.
“In July, Broun explained, Obama spoke of creating a civilian force so as to help the military shoulder some of the nation’s national security burden..
“That’s exactly what Hitler did in Nazi Germany and it’s exactly what the Soviet Union did,” Broun said. “When he’s proposing to have a national security force that’s answering to him, that is as strong as the U.S. military, he’s showing me signs of being Marxist.”
Broun theorized that after Obama creates this national police force he’ll ban gun ownership.”
I see absolutely nothing here that suggests ODS. Quite linear in his thinking actually. Gun sales since Nov 4th, are WAY UP: http://articles.latimes.com/2008/nov/12/nation/na-guns12
Jake Tapper, an ABC kool-aid drinker, is doing what liberals do best, trying to instantly marginalize debate
Bush Derangement Syndrome was a potent virus that spread rapidly. It killed brain cells and unlocked triggers that suppressed inhibition.
People with BDS acted on every impulse by protesting, speaking out, fomenting dissent on campus and in cafes, without worrying about what they looked like on TV. The virus spread more rapidly among the jobless by choice, rappers, those with facial piercing, and for some reason, on the surfaces of food stamps. People who liked to make out with vegetables were particularly affected.
Obama Derangement Syndrome, on the other hand, is a healthful balancing of chemicals in the brain that causes people to see more clearly. Under antagonistic stimulation, people with ODS generally do not erupt in childish behavior, and are able to work well in society.
There’s a medical difference between the two, so please be advised. If you feel you are experiencing symptoms of ODS, please post on my blog, I’d love to hear from you, and we can watch the world go to He)), together, clearly.
noreen, #6: I marvel that so many intelligent people, many of my friends included, are so swept up by his rhetoric. It must be genetic.
I have a different theory on this: That Obama has mastered the art of demagoguery, tapping deep into human psychology and primal desires that are hard to counteract with reason, and is doing so expertly. As others have noted, he wouldn’t be the first politician to have risen to national leadership this way.
Has Obama derangement syndrom arrived? Interesting question.
Were the people who posted messages on PJM about the COMMUNIST, BLACK- RACIST, MUSLIM, NON-AMERICAN, PROBABLY-MANCHURIAN-CANDIDATE: Barak HUSSEIN HUSSEIN HUSSEIN Obama, suffering from a kind of hateful delusion?
I remember thinking at the time that there MIGHT be a problem. But if it’s there at all, it is pretty subtle.
It’s not Obama driving me insane – it is the Trillion dollars the Democrats are about borrow from my kids’ future and give to their friends that makes me crazy. I don’t understand how anyone could think a crazy spending spree (followed by higher taxes) is just what this country needs right now.
VIVO
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How ’bout your complex of asininity ????
I think the love affair with Obama is silly, but on the other hand I’m not going to indulge in Obama Derangement Syndrome. The conservative’s panicked cries about Obama being a hardcore socialist who’s going to destroy the America we love sound exactly like the liberal’s shrill insistence that Bush was a fascist dictator who was going to destroy the America we love. To these people, we’re always on the verge of an unprecedented disaster brought about by one awful man in the White House. You all know American politics doesn’t work that way – never has and never will.
And of course liberals and conservatives both say “We’re not paranoid – OUR fears are REAL, OUR accusations are based on FACTS. How can you look at the man, his background, his policies, etc., and deny that his election is the worst calamity ever to befall this Republic?”
Meanwhile, in the real world, our lives go on pretty much as they always have.
So yeah – disagree with Obama’s policies and criticize the way he runs the country. We need to keep him and his fellow Democrats honest, to hold them to the same “high standards” they applied to the Bush administration. Don’t let them get away with anything. But try to be honest about the man himself. You don’t really know him any better than the Bush haters knew the man Bush.
And most of all, try to show some dignity. Don’t scream and swear and lie and exaggerate and draw false parallels and put on large, papier mache heads (at least not in public) and post comments assuring everyone that the end of Civilization is at hand. In other words, don’t act like a Liberal. You ought to know better…
This stimulus bull is going to cost every American over $3,000 each. It’s borrowed money, being borrowed and spent in your name. You and your children, directly or indirectly, will pay it back, with interest. Most of the spending will occur years from now.
It’s not derangement to wonder why this is a good thing, regardless of who is president.
Go ahead, attack Limbaugh. That’ll make everything better. Except we still owe the money and have to pay it back.
Ah so this is what sore losers sound like….
Crumblekid – Someday when you are Crumbleadult and you realize that your onerous taxes are paying for the great 2009 spending orgy, you will be damn sore too.
When Obama speaks you can find yourself lost in the smooth tone of his voice and mesmerized by the cadence of his speech. The only other time I felt like this was when I was being hypnotized.
Vivo: You should go work AT a multiplex, you have a real gift for projection.
(If you can get though the interview, that is.)
“a rather flat and unfocused talk without any memorable lines.”
Really? (Yes, I realize the above is Klein’s assessment, not R.S.McCain’s, but I’m responding because I saw it here.)
Here’s what I’ll remember: “We will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist.”
Also: “To those leaders around the globe who seek to sow conflict, or blame their society’s ills on the West – know that your people will judge you on what you can build, not what you destroy.”
Mongoose, cute line.
Vivo, since the bulk of the article is about the differences between the blind unreasoning hatred of Bush and conservatives who mostly are still reacting to policies they don’t like, and since a “complex” is a delusion, you might want to ask yourself whether you’re making the case you want to make.
Liberals need some sort of man made God to
worship. Looking for something to believe
in, Obama is the golden calf of the season.
Of course they get testy if you criticize
the object of their worship and mania. This
is perceived as an attack on themselves
personally.
I guess you have to wait for the mania to
become disappointment or to false praise Obama
while taking down less popular liberals
like Pelosi.
@18. Bugs: It’s not just the awful man in the White House, there are plenty of awful men (and women) in the Capital Building (Dems and Pubs alike). The synergy between them is the threat.
Meanwhile in the real world that bunch of pork-barrel slush funders in the Congress are going to bankrupt this country, and with it the world. The Great Depression will look like somebody lost some pocket-change when they have finished with us.
They are railroading this stimulus package through to prevent a “crisis” that isn’t real and nobody is calling them out on it. I agree that frantic street protests are not likely to change things, but some action must be taken to at least hold the Democrats accountable for this.
Careful, well-reasoned statments are the best way to put forth the case. Did any of us ever stop to listen to the arguments put forth by the bozos in the paper-mache heads? Nobody will listen to us if we behave the same way.
The one thing that will not serve us well is being nice guys. The go-along-with-the-program RINOs will screw things up and get the conservatives to sign onto this disaster. The Dems have the votes in both Houses, let them pass Obama’s Great Stimulus Plan on their own intiative.
Let them own the results.
My recollection is that BDS didn’t really take hold until the run up to the Iraq war. Sure there were the grousers who thought Bush stole the 2000 election, but it seems to me that the “Bush=Hitler” crowd didn’t really get cranked up until war in Iraq became the issue. So is it really fair to compare the treatment Bush got after 3-4 years in office with the treatment Obama is getting after just a few days? Give it time…
Jarhead91: What makes you think Crumblekid will ever even get a job?
It’s certainly not derangement to react to a “stimulus” bill that will only stimulate the pockets of Democrat Party voters:
“$20.0 billion to increase the maximum benefit under the Supplemental Nutrition Assurance Program (i.e., Food Stamps)
$18.5 billion for energy efficiency and renewable energy programs
$20.4 billion for programs administered by the Department of health and Human Services
$20.0 billion to renovate elementary and secondary schools
$17.6 billion for Pell grants and other student financial assistance at post-secondary institutions
$29.1 billion for other elementary and secondary educational programs
$30.0 billion for highway construction
$13.1 billion for other transportation programs
$11.2 billion for housing assistance programs administered by HUD
$19.5 billion (minimum, could be higher, as per Title XIII) for education grants to states
$27.1 billion for increase unemployment benefits
$13.3 billion to increase health insurance for unemployed workers
$11.1 billion for “Other Unemployment Compensation”
$20.2 billion for Medicaid and Medicare incentive payments to encourage providers to improve healthcare IT
What does this sound like to you? It sounds to me like a wish list for the left wing of the Democratic Party.” From Jim Manzi at National Review Online. Here: http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NDBiYjY3OWJjOWMyMWFjYmZjMjU2MTAwNDg1OGExNTA=
Yes, I admit it. I hate The One who is hellbent on taking away my liberty!
ODS has been plainly evident since 8/28/08. It proceeds apace. Those who have been looking for evidence of the syndrome among conservatives, however, have simply been looking in the wrong direction.
@MarkD: - This stimulus bull is going to cost every American over $3,000 each.
Mark, we passed that sign about 30 miles back. Right around the point where McCain proposed $300M to absorb “bad mortgages”. That suggestion, and his support for the first bailout (who knew there’d be more to follow?) led to his abandonment by conservative Republican voters, killing what little chance he had left to get elected and provide a tiny modicum of balance to our government. That was the turning point, IMHO. And in retrospect his actions seem almost transparently scripted given his recent behavior.
This is no longer a question of “borrowing” from taxpayers and/or leaving a debt to be paid back later. This is wealth redistribution on a national scale. Just follow the money. And get used to it.
While it’s been going on for decades, the manufactured and exquisitely timed economic “crisis” in which we presently find ourselves has led to the first time the government will openly and unabashedly implement socialism-in-fact. That is, nationalization of select segments of industry, cap-and-trade scams which tax remaining industry to provide a new federal slush fund for wealth redistribution (read: vote purchases), nationalization of financial institutions. The list goes on.
Take one paradigmatic example: tripling of tax credits for those who already pay no taxes. This does nothing less than take enormous sums of money from people who earned it in order to simply hand it to people who didn’t earn it. That’s federal welfare, aka socialism. Even before implementation of the current proposal, we already find ourselves in a position where some 95M Americans are footing the entire personal income tax bill for all 300M+ – and that includes hefty tax credits (federal welfare) for many of the those wage earners who pay no tax. So in addition to those 95M paying for the bulk of federal programs, a hefty portion of their income is also being handed directly to people who didn’t earn it.
All of this of course includes application of the politically correct tenets of the left, such as Reich’s demand that no infrastructure funding find its way into the hands of the highly trained individuals who are best suited to do the actual work. If that doesn’t tell you all you need to know about the “stimulus” plan, nothing will.
No one should be surprised at any of this. It’s precisely what BHO promised he would do: “spread the wealth around”. But it was apparently supposed to be an open secret of some sort – witness how BHO’s deranged minions set upon Joe the Plumber in an attempt to destroy his life for asking a revealing question about it.
It’s interesting. The Dems and spineless RINOs in the federal government have been working on all of this for quite a while now. They’re just amping up the volume now that they have a President who will rubber-stamp their policies while providing dinner theater for the press about sundries like Pelosi’s “loss” of inclusions for birth control. But it’s suddenly fashionable to label anyone as “deranged” for pointing it out or criticizing it. What “changed”? Nothing. Literally.
@Bugs: It isn’t necessary to scream or exaggerate, even a little, to demonstrate the creeping – and soon to be briskly jogging – socialism we’re experiencing, and will continue to experience given the current configuration of our government. And it’s not because of one man. Wake up.
If and when you do, please impress everyone here with your prescription for holding the government to any standard whatsoever. Rangel, Frank, Dodd, Raines, Reid, Pelosi and all their leftist, bureaucrat ilk, as well as their RINO enablers, have risen far above accountability. Just exactly how do you propose to keep BHO and his like-minded Congress “honest”?
Also, drop the straw man hyperbole if you want to be taken seriously. Pointing out the implementation of socialism is hardly the same as predicting the end of civilization. And even a cursory examination of what we do know about BHO – his parents, his education, his activism, his political alliances and his voting record – has revealed from day one that he is in fact a marxist-socialist. You can ignore those facts all you like. That won’t change the reality.
@CrumbleKid: - Ah so this is what sore losers sound like…
LOL. No, sore losers spend every waking hour for eight years attacking, lying about and demonizing the winner when their candidate loses an election because he can’t even carry his own home state.
So let me get this straight. You can’t call the Bill Ayers ghostwriting story “fringe” because it’s from an article in a prominent conservative magazine, so you just lamely justify its stupidity.
The birth certificate thing is “fringe” even though it’s parroted by michael savage, and one of the top purveyors of the conspiracy theory (andy martin) was interviewed by Sean Hannity.
The wild exaggeration of Obama’s version of the peace corp is parroted by a CONGRESSMAN but the issue is “fringe.”
Obama derangement syndrome is real. Hillary clinton was patient zero, then it spread to PUMAS and to conservatives that couldn’t fathom that they had no chance to win this election.
It would be useful to define “derangement syndrome”. It can’t possibly mean, “doesn’t think he’s a good president” or “strongly disagrees with this or that policy.”
Too often, since it’s not defined, liberals get to engage in a bit of equivalency and point to Republican criticism with a cry of “see, you do it too!”
How about defining derangement syndrome as a sustained pattern of over the top criticism that assumes all actions are based on sinister motives, that all accusations are acceptable because the object is hopelessly degenerate?
That seems a reasonable definition to me, it leaves BDS intact and also, accurately, I think, shows that there is no ODS worth mentioning. At least not yet.
It’s not “derangement syndrome”.
It’s the moves of the first week, the Guantanamo bloviation, the (our) money to foreign clinics that offer “abortion services” platitudes, the gratuitous Rush Limbaugh remarks from a sitting President…the (rather vapid) UN amb. Susan Rice babbling as to how the US will talk one on one with Iran (His Craziness, A’jad, today sez we gotta apologize…)
It’s what has been exposed (so far) of the rescue the economy package, Pelosi’s (control people with condoms, control gov’t costs) thing, today, $335 million for STD’s in a package to rescue the economy…
It ALL sounds beyond brain dead.
So far, we’ll just call it “disappointment syndrome”, which might expand into derangement syndrome but (I promise
) won’t be the same as the idiots who sustained BDS for 8 long years.
Please,,
What does he have that’s any different than any other liberal socialist? Nothing.
Hope & Change , Hope & Change , Hope & Change.
A week in office and all he has tried to do is funnel Hundreds of Millions of dollars into leftist liberal causes.
Wow That is Really BIG Change!
The average American voter is an idiot.
Please I am asking all of you that pulled yourselves away from your tv sets & American Idol, Lost, or Jerry Springer long enough to vote to please just go back to what you were doing and forget about politics. You have no clue as to what it takes to defend a free society. Oh you think you like the “Free” part alright, but nothing is free
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“You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the wealthy out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.” (Dr. Adrian Rogers 1931 to 2005)
…Reich’s demand that no infrastructure funding find its way into the hands of the highly trained individuals who are best suited to do the actual work. If that doesn’t tell you all you need to know about the “stimulus” plan, nothing will.
Beyond horrifying, watching the “deep into personal ethics inquiries” & House Chair of Ways & Means, Charlie Rangel, and social engineer Robert Reich…
White male construction workers need not apply
It’s not Obama that I dislike – it’s his cult followers.
The guy’s a socialist. His politics are not our politics. His beliefs are not our core beliefs. That’s good for this capitalist country why?
Concern for the future of my country is not derangement, it’s rational.
MarkD. I’d pay $3000 for my job back. I’m not too worried about finding work, but then there are those that are completely displaced by no fault of thir own. Most of what’s happening right now is severe over reaction syndrome. And the rich still get richer, just not as fast.
Here’s the thing: Obama is president. The people have spoken. The people have listened, too. The right wing media complex has been unveiled for what it is – arbitrary and delusional. If you have any doubts about their fading relevance, refer to November 4, 2008. I’ll speak for all the liberals in this country and tell you “Thanks, but no thanks.” The conservative/Republican “permanent majority” has screwed up by every metric. Kept us safe? What about 9/11? So, you can all go back to church or Hooters or wherever it is you go to convince yourself that you love America (just not the people in it). We’ll take it from here. and if you’re outraged by Obama, it’s because you are fundamentally confused by someone who actually does what he says he’s going to do. It’s been so long since you’ve actually seen bipartisanship that you don’t recognize it. the same goes for the truth. As for Rush and Sean and the The Bald One and Coulter and Ingraham and Tommy Bruce, we’ll, we’re leaving them all behind. Stay back with them if you want. I’m sure you’ll have a lovely time comparing crucifixes.
At the end of the day, let’s see who the stimulus package helps
@tim maguire: - How about defining derangement syndrome as a sustained pattern of over the top criticism that assumes all actions are based on sinister motives, that all accusations are acceptable because the object is hopelessly degenerate?
I prefer to go with the definition of the person who originally recognized the malady – Dr. Charles Krauthammer. His definition of BDS was: “the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of George W. Bush.”
Dr. K’s publication of his observations came in response to a statement by Howard AAAAAAaaaaargh!!!! Dean: “I don’t know. There are many theories about [why Bush is suppressing the 9/11 Report]. The most interesting theory that I’ve heard so far — which is nothing more than a theory, it can’t be proved — is that he was warned ahead of time by the Saudis. Now who knows what the real situation is?”
The problem with Dean’s delusion, and the reason Dr. K used it as an example, is that the “theory” referenced was not a theory at all, but pure speculation with absolutely no evidence available to back it up. It wasn’t a disagreement with policy, and it wasn’t an observation of Bush’s past that needed exposure because it indicated clearly anti-American sentiments.
If we define ODS based solely on Dr. K’s criteria, we come up pretty much empty, just as the ‘other’ McCain has indicated. Why? Because to date BHO hasn’t done anything but talk the talk and fail when he’s tried to walk the walk. Throughout his entire political career he’s done nothing but run for office, fail as chairman of a radical education reform funding organization, and read lines on a teleprompter.
But the few times BHO has strayed from this scripted behavior, he’s let the mask slip and revealed his socialist ideological inclinations – like “spreading the wealth around”. Reactions to that are not an acute onset of paranoia. Socialism has failed, or is in the process of failing, everywhere it’s ever been tried and is responsible for the murders of tens of millions in the 20th Century. It’s not “paranoid” to resist socialism, even as – no, especially as – promoted by someone with majority support among an electorate suffering from mass hysteria induced by entrenched media propaganda.
To whit, the most accurate and most useful definition for ODS at this time requires only a one-word modification to Dr. K’s original diagnosis: “the acute onset of euphoria in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of Barack H. Obama”.
The boundless evidence for that sort of derangement is incontrovertible.
Sambo Hux, it’s too early in the game to start claiming victory. Like I said previously, let’s see who this ‘package’ helps. My guess is you’ve never formed an honest opinion on your own in your entire life….or should I say informed independent opinion. Most folks I know are in love with the cut and paste style of evaluating either left or right ideology. see only wrong in the other side to take comfort in the side one’s adopted. This country can only be successful if governed from the middle…that’s why we have checks and balances IMHO. But again, let’s see who O’s initatives help at the end of the day before you go about claiming moral and mandate authority.
The fact that some people are speculating, and perhaps letting their imagination run away, is a direct consequence of the (h)opacity of the president. If he would come out and say what he means and do what he says, there wouldn’t be such speculation. Absent any reason to believe what he says, you fall back on his past, and his connections to racists and terrorists. This isn’t unreasonable under the circumstances.
Liberals didn’t like Reagan, but they never got too carried away, because he was very straightforward. He said what he was going to do, and he did it. There were no surprises, and no suspense in those years.
Imagination is always fed by absence of information. What little hard information we do have at this point supports the thesis that 0bama is the most radical leftist president in history. It’s up to him to stop playing coy, and give us a solid reason believe that that’s not the case.
I had not read Horowitz’ piece about the constitutional birth issue. I am blown away. This otherwise sane intelligent person basically says that if the Dems perpetuated this fraud so far, they should get away with it. There are only two constitutional requirements to run for President: 35 years old and a natural born US citizen. What if someone had challenged that McCain was 35 years old. As ridiculous as that assertion might be, would not the Federal Election Commission have required a valid birth certificate or some other valid form of documentation to put the (ridiculous) challenge to rest? But now Horowitz tells us that since Obama has (perhaps) gotten away with a fraud so far, that we shouldn’t care. If the allegation were true, would it not be the most incredible evidence of Obama’s total distain for the constitution of the US?
My contribution to ODS here in the People’s Republic of Charlottesville (aka Obamaville) is to display my 01-20-2013 May we survive until then – bumper sticker (this is no small gesture since the last time I had a negative themed bumper sticker a guy kept tearing it not once but 7 times – the police stopped him) and to join a number of anti-obama facebook groups. Oh, and I always refer to him as BO in postings. Just call me a wild and crazy anti-obama fanatic!!
Goy, although I tend to agree with you, it’s my firm unsubstantiated opinion that Obama will surprise us as we move forward. (not necessarily in a good way but surprise nevertheless). I think euphoria is a aptly described symptom of ODS. I think he will use the compromise tactic to meet his short term objectives without losing sight of the endgame
Frankly you can call it whatever you wish–ODS, opposition, policy difference, or just plain anger on a stick. Does that make me a sore loser? I frankly do not care. It doesn’t matter what you call it or what liberals think about the reaction of conservatives. Barrack Obama will be a failure because he doesn’t realize that socialist leftism and big government fascism will ultimately not succeed or be accepted by close to half of the population. I’m glad Obama talks better than George Bush and that he sounds so erudite. It makes it easier for those willing to listen that what he says is policy pablum for the ignorant tools that swallowed the crap adulation served up by the MSM. The fools have voted for an delusion. Obama’s fiscal policy and administration will be a disaster in a whole variety of ways, not least of which is the staggering waste and economic decline that the Democratic pork-meisters are set on as they buy votes from the half-witted. Is there a solution? Of course there is, but at the moment there is no stomach for it. Someday there will be and, I am willing to posit, it will be very, very ugly and will come as a complete surprise and dismay to those who wallow in their present smug, self-satisfaction. May they be the first against the wall. In the meantime Obama’s drooling supporters need to understand that I personally will give him all the support they offered to George Bush over the last 8 years. I hope Obama fails at every turn and I will do every thing I can to see that he does. You want me to support him? Go f**k yourself.
The more worrisome problem is Obama Arrangement Syndrome.
goy #43:
“the acute onset of euphoria in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency — nay — the very existence of Barack H. Obama”
My thoughts exactly! Except the “otherwise normal people” are really the drive-by, deadwood, dinosaur media who are not really “normal” and never have been.
“I think he will use the compromise tactic to meet his short term objectives without losing sight of the endgame”
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The above is an example of OAS. Obama has already ordered the Joint Chiefs – against their advice – to draw up plans to withdraw troops from Iraq in 16 months. Retaining Gates was a distraction.
Sambo Hux,
Here is a poster child for exactly what I’m talking about.
The people have spoken?
Pres. Obama won by 7.3% margin, 52.9 to 47.1 out of a population of just over 300 million there were 69,469,098 votes cast. Do the math and he barely got over 1/8th of the population to vote for him.
In case you missed it in your political history lessons the United States is a Republic. This is not a crowd mentality majority rule system like the banana republic you long for.
The left wants a one party rule period. Dissenter’s need not apply. (the messiah has already spoken and we are not to listen to anyone that might speak out against him.)
Lets just observe and see how far the left will try to take this. ( you better go buy your “Brown Shirt” now before they all sell out, you wouldn’t want to be the only leftist without your very own.)
Frankly you can call it whatever you wish–ODS, opposition, policy difference, or just plain anger on a stick. Does that make me a sore loser? I frankly do not care. It doesn’t matter what you call it or what liberals think about the reaction of conservatives. Barrack Obama will be a failure because, in fact, he has always been a failure. He has never done anything but run for political office. That may fool the ignorant (it certainly did in November) but not the rest of us. Socialist leftism and big government fascism will ultimately not succeed or be accepted by close to half of the population. I’m glad Obama talks better than George Bush and that he sounds so erudite. It makes it easier for those willing to listen that what he says is policy pablum for the ignorant tools that swallowed the crap adulation served up by the MSM. The fools have voted for a myth and a delusion. Obama’s fiscal policy and administration will be a disaster in a whole variety of ways, not least of which is the staggering waste and economic decline that the Democratic pork-meisters seem set on as they buy votes from the half-witted. In the meantime Obama’s drooling supporters need to understand that I personally and many others will give him all the support that they offered to George Bush over the last 8 years. I hope Obama fails at every turn and I will do every thing I can to see that he does. You want me to support him? Go f**k yourself.
“What if someone had challenged that McCain was 35 years old. As ridiculous as that assertion might be, would not the Federal Election Commission have required a valid birth certificate or some other valid form of documentation to put the (ridiculous) challenge to rest?”
Good god I would hope not. 2008 – (1965- 20 at least)= >35
Obviously it’s the libs who will suffer from ODS. They are coming off BDS, and they need something to channel all the unhinged insanity into.
Conservatives don’t usually have these big rallies because, well, who wants to use up a sick day or vacation day following around a giant papier-mache head?
My understanding is that Obama will have to prove his citizenship to get on the ballot in Oklahoma in three years.
About why conservatives/libertarians don’t protest and raise he11 as much as liberals/progressives do. I remember when I was in high school in the 60s; we had a class called Problems of Democracy. In that class, we discussed when public protests and demonstrations were justified and when they were not. Our class decided that protests and demonstrations were justified when the people involved had no other way of making their concerns known. For example, blacks in some states faced barriers to voting; therefore they were justified in protesting. Likewise, 18 year-olds, who were subject to the draft, but were not allowed to vote, were justified in protesting. It seems to me that conservatives/libertarians follow the logic of my class. We have the right to vote,so there is no need to protest. OTOH, liberals/progressives do not feel any justification is needed–protest is always appropriate. It’s a cultural difference.
About why conservatives/libertarians don’t protest and raise he11 as much as liberals/progressives do. I remember when I was in high school in the 60s; we had a class called Problems of Democracy. In that class, we discussed when public protests and demonstrations were justified and when they were not. Our class decided that protests and demonstrations were justified when the people involved had no other way of making their concerns known. For example, blacks in some states faced barriers to voting; therefore they were justified in protesting. Likewise, 18 year-olds, who were subject to the draft, but were not allowed to vote, were justified in protesting. It seems to me that conservatives/libertarians follow the logic of my class. We have the right to vote, therefore protesting is not appropriate. OTOH, liberals/progressives do not feel any justification is needed. Protest is always appropriate. It’s a cultural difference.
ODS is already well underway to challenge the elected president’s legitimacy as leader and as C-i-C.
1. The secret Kenyan birth certificate.
2. On a trip to meet with foreign leaders and visit troops in Iraq, he failed the “heroes” by not visiting wounded troops in transit to and from Landstuhl.
3. Despite red carpet treatment for a few Medal of Honor winners that exceeded the red carpet treatment given any other group, including those with decorations for great heroic valor (Navy Cross, Silver STar. DSC recipients get none of the special consideration of the MOH crowd of 40+ years ago acts)
Somehow Obama “snubbed and disrespected Our Greatest Heroes” because he didn’t personally go to the Ball specially for honoring just the MOH winners and not other highly decorated military – so say some right wing fanatics. (Inoring him meeting with them at the C-i-C ball, giving the MOH awardees a place of honor at the Inauguration right below the podium, giving them a special luncheon hosted by DOD Secretary, and sending VP Biden to their little shindig).
4. Obama is a secret Muslim.
5. Obama hates Muslims so he is going to sell out the noble purple-fingered freedom-lovers of Iraq.
And since we are just a week into Obama’s Presidency, I’m sure more right wing derangement will be a coming..
Keep whining. Your getting fainter by the minute. Math? Brown shirts? Exactly the thinking I would expect from people who get their opinions spoon fed to them by junkies, racists, serial philanderers, and family values senators who get diapered by hookers on the weekends (Limbaugh, Hannity, Gingrich and Vitter). Say goodbye to the myth of America. Say hello to the real America. I’ll leave you with a quote, “They’re just going to have to get used to the fact that they lost. If there is going to be any reaching across the aisle, it’s going to be them who does.” – Rush Limbaugh on the Democrats after the 2004 election. So pull your heads out of your collective a#$ and pay attention. Or not. We don’t really care. In the meantime, how about a sandwich, would you mind? And bring me a beer while you’re at it.
You had a public school teacher help you decide who should protest? Too funny.
I got news for you,every adult has the right to vote. It is conservatives and liberals that “do not have a voice” or much of one anyway. Lokk at what a fraud and circus Katrina was. What about Ike? No those are givers not takers, in Galveston. Those welfare bums inNO have no voice? Really now.
Street thuggery is the hallmark of the Left – that is how Lennin did it, that is how Hitler did it, that is how Mao did it. Caesar did it too for that matter.
Conservative do not generally demonstrate because 1) they actually have jobs and families to worry about; 2) they consider the childish, shameless antic of the Lefty demonstrators to be extremely vile behavior, and 3) The MSM would not report it anyway.
You do realize that every year there is a HUGE anti-abortion demonstration every year in Washington. It is immense. Bet you have never heard about from the MSM.
Why is that? What we should do is have a three day national strike. Let the takers know that the givers have had it will their looting of the country.
All it would take is a 2 day supply of food and a tank of gas. And some courage.
It may yet come to that.
sambo hux: what is this, your first election? “The people have spoken”, indeed.
What in the world have the Left been doing the last 8 years? Listening to “the people”.
About the only members of “the people” the real people of this country the ones that produce the wealth that the democrats want to steal, that you talk to are the people on this blog.
You are kidding yourself. Go get a job.
“What if someone had challenged that McCain was 35 years old. As ridiculous as that assertion might be, would not the Federal Election Commission have required a valid birth certificate or some other valid form of documentation to put the (ridiculous) challenge to rest?”
The answers are:
No
and
Mccain WAS CHALLENGED IN COURT.
Is it really that much to ask for people to have just a little bit of information on the things they seem to care so much about?
Oopsie I forgot this: “Barrack Obama will be a failure because, in fact, he has always been a failure.” No doubt a sound appraisal from the guy who sells me my lottery tickets down at the Piggly Wiggly. But he forgot a couple of things – Obama – first in his class at Harvard Law School, first black editor of the Law Review, constitutional law professor, state senator, U.S. senator, and something else, let’s see, what am I missing . . . something . . . something . . . OH! President of the Unites States. You’re right, the guy’s a complete loser. Now how about that Quick Pick ticket?
53.tommyd. Thank you.
Hmmm. This discussion seems quite spirited. Care to relax with a warm cup of Obama Tea?
Not a moment too soon, there’s a countdown to Obama’s last day in office in 2012:
http://hopingforchange.com
Cedarford
Since candidate Obama did everything he could to persuade his country to concede Iraq to al Qaeda and Iran, I would suggest that you have a burst of rationality and scratch no 5.
“Obama hates Muslims so he is going to sell out the noble purple-fingered freedom-lovers of Iraq.”
Whoops, let me try that with a working link:
Countdown to 2012
tommy d: The left wants a one party rule period. Dissenter’s need not apply.
Do the words “Permanent Republican Majority” ring a bell? No? Not familiar with the Project for the New American Century? OK, let me offer three more words somewhat more available to your sphere of inquiry . . . “I’m the decider.” Sound familiar? Still too many words? How about one word, spoken by Dick Cheney when he was told that 70% of “the people” think the Iraq War is a terrible mistake, to which he replied, “So.”
You weren’t complaining when The Incompetents had one-party rule but now you do? Sorry, but it’s that kind of empty values that renders your opinions irrelevant. And no, it’s not my first election. I distinctly remember the 2004 election and George Bush and Turd Blossom and the locker room over at Fox News all saying, “It’s a mandate!” Didn’t Bush say, “I got a lot of political capital. And I’m gonna spend it.” And he won by a far smaller margin than did Obama. I’m signing off now. I gotta go to work, after which I’ll get a haircut and then maybe stroke my Glock. Until next time, a couple more words that will test your honesty – President Palin – discuss.
@ken in sc: - It’s a cultural difference.
Not at all. You’ve just demonstrated that culture has nothing to do with it, since those groups you mention are all part of the same culture.
What’s different about the two groups is their level of behavioral development, specifically that part of their behavioral development that determines their individual morality and intuitive ethics.
I know, that’s a mouthful of assertions. Here’s the background…
A while back, (self-described liberal) psychology researcher Jonathan Haidt and his colleagues set out to determine the nature of differences between those who label themselves ‘liberal’ (actually, leftist) and ‘conservative’. They found two very important phenomena in their research – phenomena that were surprisingly (to me) consistent over all the cultures they examined.
The first phenomenon was their finding that, in all cultures, there is a common system of five basic moral foundations upon which successful cultures and societies depend for peace, stability and longevity.
The second phenomenon they discovered was that those who labeled themselves as liberal/leftist valued two of these five moral foundations disproportionately to the other three, which they valued hardly at all. Self-labeled conservatives, on the other hand, valued all five fairly equally.
The differences between these two types of moral minds (as Haidt refers to them) is not cultural at all – it was, in fact, detected in all cultures examined. The difference, therefore, is clearly developmental. A morally mature view, i.e., one which has recognized through various life experience that all five of these moral foundations must be supported equally in order for a culture and society to thrive for more than a few generations, leads one to completely different attitudes and behaviors from those inspired by a morally adolescent view, i.e., one which has only yet learned to value two of five critical moral foundations.
In that context, let’s look at the example you’ve used: protests and “raising hell”. Both of these behaviors are akin to stamping one’s feet and screaming until one gets one’s way. This is not to say that what one wants in such a case is necessarily wrong in and of itself, only that this manner of achieving it is morally adolescent. It is exceedingly rare that people in modern society have “no other way of making their concerns known” – especially today. On the contrary, protests and “raising hell” are usually a shortcut aimed at getting the attention required for “change”, when that change is either not popular or the need for it is not self-evident to the majority.
In more extreme cases – such as the demonization of those who supported the landslide victory of Prop 8 out in California – such behavior is intended to intimidate society at large into shifting from the status quo. In cases such as these – where protests escalate to vandalism, physical violence and/or riots in the streets – this behavior has more in common with terrorism than political activism. This would explain the behaviors of moral adolescents like Bill Ayers’ terrorist Weather Underground.
Moral adolescence manifests in the left/liberal primarily through faux altruism, which almost universally aims to force someone else to foot the bill for the leftists’ altruistic agenda. We’re seeing that phenomenon acted out before our eyes in the Democrats’ “stimulus” plan, which has proven to be nothing less than federal welfare for low-income and minority individuals on an unprecedented scale.
Just a suggestion: let’s all call our Congressmen and ask that they vote “Present” (or abstain if that is not an option)on the “sTIMULUS” bill.
@Terry Gain: - … scratch no 5.
S/he can scratch the rest as well…
1. To date BHO has spent over $1M on multiple law firms to keep his original, vault copy COLB hidden from public view. Curiosity about this is hardly derangement. Meanwhile, cedarford’s straw man “secret Kenyan birth” (which apparently wasn’t much of a secret to the Kenyans who reportedly claim to have been present) has morphed into the “secret Kenyan birth certificate” – obviously some form of derangement.
2. Irrespective of his “reasons”, BHO consciously chose not to visit wounded troops. Nothing conspiratorial about it. But it does show his priorities. Recognizing this is hardly evidence of derangement.
3. BHO chose not to attend a function previously attended by every newly elected President since Ike. Again, this demonstrates his priorities, as well as a conscious choice to ignore tradition. Recognizing this is hardly evidence of derangement.
4. BHO was schooled as a Muslim and indoctrinated into the Muslim faith. He attended a Muslim school during which time his religion was documented as Muslim (Islam). Nothing secret about any of that. Recognizing this is hardly evidence of derangement. Ignoring it, is.
5. BHO supported capitulation in Iraq and politicized the conflict by attacking the change in strategy that has placed the country back in the hands of its people and raised its GDP to the highest level in ten years. He obviously has no regard for Iraq or Iraqis, and recognizing this is hardly evidence of derangement. Ignoring it, is.
73. goy:
If anyone cares Jonathan Haidt gave a talk about this at TED(Technology, Entertainment, Design) an annual conference. They also have hundreds of other interesting talks about most everything.
Link to the talk:
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/jonathan_haidt_on_the_moral_mind.html
“66. sambo hux: Oopsie I forgot this: “Barrack Obama will be a failure because, in fact, he has always been a failure.” No doubt a sound appraisal from the guy who sells me my lottery tickets down at the Piggly Wiggly. But he forgot a couple of things – Obama – first in his class at Harvard Law School, first black editor of the Law Review, constitutional law professor, state senator, U.S. senator, and something else, let’s see, what am I missing . . . something . . . something . . . OH! President of the Unites States. You’re right, the guy’s a complete loser. Now how about that Quick Pick ticket?”
First in his class at Harvard Law? How did we miss the release of the One’s grades?! Many of us have been clamoring for them for what some would call ages and what others would call since he’s been running for president…oh, wait, they’re the same. Never released transcripts, grades, evaluations, writings, client records when he was practicing law, medical records, etc. And we all know why: they would have been a distraction from his Greatness. You would not hire a part-time accountant for your smallish midwestern machine tool plant without vetting him, but you’d strip off common sense and support Mr. Empty Suit slavishly, wouldn’t you? Somewhere someone who worked his or her butt off to have finished first in that class is seething, because someone else is being credited for it.
First black editor of Harvard Law Review? Isn’t that convenient? No, you’re actually completely wrong. From the Washington Post: “The Oct. 22 Book World review of Sen. Barack Obama’s “The Audacity of Hope” incorrectly said that Obama was the first black editor of the Harvard Law Review. The review’s first black editor was Charles Hamilton Houston, in the 1920s; Obama was its first black president.”
This is how it went: They changed the title from editor to president, so he could be a “first.” And Charles Hamilton–who clearly had to be a superlative student to be black over 80 years ago and win this post–is forgotten, so to elevate the One. In other words: Affirmative Action. Let’s have Barry be the first black editor! They already had one. Then let’s change it to president, so we can all feel really, really good about ourselves. Barry agreed: On the condition that he would not have to do any work (which he didn’t), and that none of his papers would ever be released (which was easy, because he didn’t write any).
Constitutional law professor? God that sounds grand, doesn’t it? He was a guest lecturer on constitutional law at the U. of Chicago. But title inflation makes us all feel better about ourselves, doesn’t it?
You’ve got the rest right–state senator, etc. But many millions of us see a fraudulent–and abetted–life that was leveraged into ever grander positions, culminating in the best position of all. He may own it, but he didn’t earn it.
The Republican equivalent of BDS is not Obama Derangement Syndrome, but Slick Willie Syndrome. For 8 years, I had to suffer through endless conspiracy theory rantings by conservatives about Bill Clinton. To anyone who was paying attention during that time to the silliness exhibited by conservatives and Republicans, Bush Derangement Syndrome wasn’t a surprise at all — in fact, it was simply expected as a consequence of the modern tit-for-tat dialog that passes for informed commentary in our political sphere. Obama has only been in office for 8 days and already radio talk show hosts are acting like they’ve been suffering under his yoke for 8 years. Enough, already! Grow a pair and start acting like an adult for a change. You can’t claim the moral high ground when you act just like those people you decry.
@e: thanks – yes, that video is included at the article I linked above.
It’s a great one, too. After a point, it’s very difficult to know for sure if he’s purposely demonstrating the flaws in liberal/left thinking, or if he’s doing it without realizing it.
His whole “yin-yang” bit at the end (which is also in his book – highly recommended) is added to avoid making the observations I’ve made above, i.e., the difference being one of moral maturity vs. moral adolescence. It’s not yet clear to me whether he’s avoiding admitting this to himself or avoiding it because he knows his audience will simply tune out if he states the obvious – all discussed at the link in the earlier post.
sambo hux – But he forgot a couple of things – Obama – first in his class at Harvard Law School, first black editor of the Law Review, constitutional law professor
1. Obama was not 1st in his law school class. He was just in the top 3rd.
2. Editor of a law review is a nice thing, but law firms will look at what those on law review published, if they performed other law review contributions that exceed that of the “editor”. It is not unusual for the editor of law reviews at the most prestigious schools to be passed over for the most coveted clerkships and others deemed more promising to be selected instead from those schools.
3. President Obama was not a professor. He never tried for a such tenure track position, nor did any publishing. What he was, was a senior lecturer.
Robert, that post you mentioned from “American Thinker” was veery, veery interestinggggggg.
I’m still cackling over Obama’s brilliant ‘poem’:
From “Underground”:
Under water grottos, caverns
Filled with apes
That eat figs.
Stepping on the figs
That the apes
Eat, they crunch.
The apes howl, bare
Their fangs, dance . . .
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Bahahahahaha!
GENIUS!
NOT.
What an empty-suit B. Hussein is! His first book was the only significant thing he’s ever accomplished and as Robert McCain so eloquantly points out, even that so-called accomplishment is deeply flawed. B. Hussein was made by white guilt: first affirmative action, then by the mainstream media. Too bad we’re all going to pay dearly for it
“reminded the nation that here was a man who wrote himself into his job.”
The speeches that got him elected were written by other people.
Sure there were the grousers who thought Bush stole the 2000 election, but it seems to me that the “Bush=Hitler” crowd didn’t really get cranked up until war in Iraq became the issue. So is it really fair to compare the treatment Bush got after 3-4 years in office with the treatment Obama is getting after just a few days?
Eggs at the inaugural parade. That’s all I’m saying. The progs can whine as much as they like, but the Right has already displayed more class for President Obama than the Left was capable of eight years ago.
sambo hux — Obama graduated magna cum laude. Summa cum laude is first in class. He was elected to the Harvard Law Review and never published a word. And he won his seat in the Illinois legislature by getting all of his opponents thrown off the ballot on a technicality, so he ran unopposed. One of his opponents was his former mentor.
Doesn’t seem odd to anyone who calls the birth certificate question “fringe” that Obama lawyered up and spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to conceal a document that any average citizen would have to furnish to get a job or a passport? I don’t know what the truth of the matter is, but this behavior is just weird. It suggests to me that he has something to hide there.
17. J. PINKERTON SNOOPINGTON:
23. Mongoose:
25. Charlie (Colorado):
Hi there, red state jumping beans.
Made my point.
sambo
I suggest you do go stroke your glock, by the end of your messiah’s term you probably won’t have it to play with any more.
Oh and just to let you know so you do not embarrass yourself again your idol graduated magna cum laude which at Harvard assures us only that he was in the top %20 of the graduating class. No chance to be #1 in his class as summa cum laude is reserved for the top 4-5%, sorry to bust one of your fantasies.
But don’t take my word for it , look it up.
So much for another urban legend.
I’m embarrassed to admit it, but lil’ ole, 19 year old blond haired, blue eyed me seems to be a victim of the Obama Derangement Syndrome.
It’s 1:30 p.m., I’m sitting alone in my dorm. I have papers to write, books to read, but I can’t seem to be able to concentrate on my work. My mind feels like mush. So many conflicting, angry thoughts. To top things off, I ripped off from the bumper of my boyfriend’s car an Obama/Biden sticker. What’s wrong with me?
I even made a 2,500 mile cell call to my Dad thinking he might be able to help me sort things out (he’s an attorney), but about all he offered was, “Rachel, everybody has mental ups and downs. Take a nap. Drink less beer. Turn on Rush.
“Turn on Rush.”
“Dad”, I said. “Everybody around here knows I’m the dorm Republican conservative. And tease me about it. Even my boyfriend, the starting split end on the football team as a Freshman, makes fun of me and my politics, calling me the good looking Ann Coulter. Matter of fact, my Dad and Ann are about the only ones I get occasional emails from complimenting me on my PJM comments. Dad corrects my spelling and grammar. Ann says I’m not nasty enough.
Then there’s Barack Obama. Of course, he doesn’t know I exist, but last week he issued the pronouncement that people like me shouldn’t be listening to Rush Limbaugh.
So, with everybody around here hating Rush, no one listening to him, people turning around and leaving my room when I have him on the radio, maybe Mister Obama is correct.
Maybe I should get in tune with my friends and the rest of patriotic Americans that voted for Obama.
Maybe this is an example of the kind of unity Obama wants for all of us. Everybody thinking with a single minded purpose to solve the country’s financial and political problems. I guess if everybody was against the troops like in Viet Nam, our legislators would have to bring them home. However, I could never bring myself to spit on returning troops in airports like the Hippies used to brag about doing.
But a part of me thinks (please, don’t call me crazy) that our troops are doing the right thing when they fight terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan. I mean, we’re so close to winning. Why give up now?
I know Barack doesn’t want me to think like that but there’s a part of me deep down that believes every word of it I say. And I almost went nuclear when Barack announced yesterday he’s not going through with our country’s missile defense shield. And they call Bush the idiot.
ARE THE ABOVE STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS PARAGRAPHS DERANGED OR WHAT?
On the other hand, though, I’m tired of being so politically alone here at school.
So can anybody give me a little guidance?
While I know Barack doesn’t want me to listen to Rush or Shawn or Ann, my next question has to be, “What am I supposed to be watching on TV and listening to on the radio?” I went to Obama’s website and the answer’s not there.
So let me ask our progressive friends here who visit PJM. What shows (both radio and TV) have the Barack Obama seal of approval. Yes. I think that’s one of the big things that’s got me all tied up this in a knot; my personal case of Obama Derangement Syndrome.
If President Obama tells me what not to listen to, shouldn’t he suggest to me things I should listen to?
Should I read the NY Times, Washinton Post and LA Times? Although I consider thost papers fit only for the bottom of bird cages, I guess I could give them a try.
Should I watch PBS, Face the Nation and Meet the Press. Shall I keep my channel glued to NBC? Should I include what I consider the grossly left biased, ABC and CBS? Should I start watching, “The View” where Joy, the ugly mean faced girl is always calling President Bush an idiot?
And does this include books, too?
Jeepers, I almost bought a copy of, the new Bernie book, “A Slobbering Love Affair” at the college bookstore, but they didn’t have it telling me they don’t stock that sort of hate-mongering trash.
Somebody here, please give me some guidance.
While I still have your attention, let me also add that leaders of our country like Harry Reid (in my deranged state I call him “Hapless Harry Reid”) Nancy Palosi (naturally, I have a name for her, too, “Niggardly Nancy”) and Barack Obama (I admit I like to call him baby killer Barack for being pro abortion) seem to always have a chip on their shoulder.
To me, three perfect words describe those three despicable creatures: vitrolic, venomous and vituperative.
I know, my Obama Derangement Syndrome is talking. But it’s like a kind of Tourettes Syndrome Urge. I’ll be stopped alone in my car at a red light and all of a sudden I can hear myself yell, “Niggardly Nancy, Niggardly Nancy”
Last week in fact I fought the urge off just so long, then with five minutes to go in a race relations class I shouted out, “Niggardly Nancy.” I was so embarassed. Worse, an African American girl sitting next to me said, “Excuse me”. I smiled and told her I was pledging a sorority and they made me say it. She said, “Well, girl, the next time something like that comes out of your white mouth you better not be sitting next to me.”
“Seated, next to me.” English must be your second language”, I offered.
Anyhoot, getting back to Barack, Nancy and Harry.
Instead of being kind, considerate and caring, willing to accept and respect other points of view, their first instincts seem to be to lash at and say nasty things.
Like, if discourtesy, meanness, nastiness, rudeness, hatefulness and, maybe, above all, ungraciousness would win the war on terrorism, America, with Obama, Harry and niggardly Nancy at the helm, surely we’d be home free.
That said, my main question remains, for the sake of national unity, should I start being more like our Progressive leaders?
Something else that gets to me like a burr under a saddle bothers a horse.
I’ve noticed that, instead of setting their sights on terrorists the world over, B. Hussein, niggardly Nancy and hapless Harry (my ODsyndrome is showing) have marshalled their forces and are waging a domestic, totally uncivil, civil war on a little less than half the country. Not just the Ann Coulters and Shawn Hannity’s of the America, but everyone who disagrees with them.
Sad but true. Obama and crew view their real enemies as not the terrorists who vow to kill innocent Americans, but the innocent Americans themselves who exercise their God endowed, constitution documented freedoms of speech and thought.
Barack’s not targeting our country’s economic crisis with workable solutions.
Rather, Obama seems to be fixated on constantly trying to strengthen his political hand?
With handouts, for example, to people who pay not a penny in taxes. Handouts may be in the nature of Democrats, but even on a huge scale, they don’t work. Worse, he’s no longer monitoring terrorist phone calls made within and without the United States.
Even for unity’s sake, it’s difficult for me to ignore this. Barack is singlehandedly opening the floodgates for another terrorist attack.
Moreover, he’s targeting Republicans and conservatives who refuse to jump on the Obama bandwagon.
Why else would he use his bully pulpit to excoriate a conservative radio host or two?
Apparently to the brown eyed handsome man the first ten amendments don’t apply if one refuses to apply to the Barack Obama school of hero worship.
Within the many folds of the Obama brain, there’s a maverick acetylcholine reaction that has its synapses crossed, causing the B man to believe Orwell’s 1984 is in reality a true story that’s playing out in 2009.
What a warped, misplaced sense of self Barack must have; “I am the end all and be all to correctness. Conservatives, if you don’t police your own ideas, my thought police will be knocking at your doors.” How can such a magnificently intelligent mind be more warped than a two by four left sitting out for a month in the rain.
The bottom line. If you’re not a card carrying Obama fanatic, if you don’t toe the line, Barack is at war with you.
This, my progressive friends, is what a deranged Obama hater believes. Sadly it’s me who has the syndrome. As proof how deep it’s got me in its clutches, two days ago, the following is what I wrote.
“Unfortunately, under the direction of Rham, Dave Axelrod, hapless Harry Reid and niggardly Nancy Piglosi, B. Hussein is of the notion that, seeing as though the Republican Party is down and almost out, the thing to do now is to jam a hobnail boot on the proveribal neck of the Republican body politic until the great Obama hears the Party’s final last gasp.
What incredibly escapes many Americans is that this is no way to run a country. We’re based on a two party system, not a populace that kneels down at the the feet of the ledo, kissing the brass Presidential ring he reminds everybody he won with the shrill tone of a rich kid bragging about a new bicycle.”
I RANTED ON.
“So far I’ve talked about Barack’s intentions. Waging war on almost half the American electorate.
Here’s why he’ll fail. Here’s why the American electorate will one day join forces and figuratively hang Benito, I mean B. Hussein, out to dry.
To begin with, thin skinned as he is, his black cover will wear thin; the idea that if you attack Barack you’re a racist will lose its stopping power.
IT GETS WORSE…
Like a bold faced black lie held up to the light of reason, Barack’s black cover will one day, like an Amos and Andy rerun, be recognized for the cheap boorish racial ploy it is.
One pin prick of truth too many and the Obama balloon will deflate like a rapist on the business end of a woman’s cocked colt 45.
The fact that Barack is a verbal bully with the courage of a paper lion eventually will become clear as high definition TV. The unamericanness of defining himself as right and anyone who disagrees as wrong will ring as hallow as John Edwards dusty old moral imperatives to do what’s right. (Or did he say, “What feels good?”)
In the end, whether you’re a roving husband or President of the United States, actions speak louder than words. And, when cornered, the brown eyed handsome man is capable of freezing in fear like a deer facing the bright lights of truth and honesty.
B. Hussein can only say, “Let me make this clear” so many times; parse words till they have meaning only to lawyers. He can rely on a corrupt media for only so long. Being the first black President will not offer gardol-like protection from naysayers forever. Like we used to wonder if there was life on Mars, there must be a speck of righteous life in the mainstream media somewhere who remembers that the jobs of cheerleader and journalist in reality have less in common than a medal of honor recipient has with a tin horn, two bit pipsqueak of a President whose cosmic tumblers clicked into place with the luck of the dive bombing Japanese pilot dropping a bomb down the smokestack of the USS Arizona that fateful Sunday morn.
THEN I GET EVEN MORE DRAMATIC.
Isn’t there some mainstream reporter out there with the instincts of an Ernie Pyle, willing at least to put his journalistic life on the line, rear back and deliver a verbal punch in Obama’s prettyboy nose?. Anyhow, that’s how my father taught me to handle a bully.
Yet, even if no one ever swings the verbal right cross, one day the ethical pendulum will swing. One day when the bell tolls, it will be shouting out Barry’s name. Maybe then he’ll look in the mirror and ask himself, “What have I become? Who am I?”
If bully boy Barack isn’t honest with himself, let me try to state the “est” of Barry. (third person, singular, first declension of the Latin verb, “To be.”
REMEMBER THIS IS MY SYNDROME TALKING.
B. Hussein is a western TV town that’s all facade and no inside. He’s the frontman of a backboneless Democratic Party.
He talks the talk, but one day, when he’s expected to walk the walk, he’ll stumble and fall right on his pretty brown face.
Barack is Winston Churchill, without the Sword and Juno; with no victorious battle of Britain. George Washington with no crossing of the Delaware. He’s Davey Crockett with no valiant defense of the Alamo. He’s Joe Namath without the arm. Tiger Woods without the swing.
Obama’s a paper tiger posessing an uncanny ability to roar like a lion; deliver the kind of beautifully crafted, highly persuasive speeches that have an army of sychophants including the mainstream media jumping up and down with glee like schoolgirls with front row seats on August 15, 1965 at Shea Stadium.
B. Hussein has the charisma of a Beatle and the ego of Donald Trump. He is like a good actor who landed the role of President of the United States.
THE FOLLOWING MY DAD TOLD ME CONFIDENTIALLY. I SHOULDN’T HAVE LET IT SLIP.
But when his closest advisors talk about him on the golf course, it becomes very clear that they, too, realize Barack is just playing a part. He’s a great political magician’s finest illusion.
However, the ability to pull the wool over 53% of the voting public’s eyes does not a President make.
For someday the rubber will meet the road. Things will get sandpaper tough. When decisive action and nothing less is needed, the house of cards that is Barack Obama will fold like one. The structural facade that is B. Hussein will come tumbling down like a blind roofer.
He’ll sit on his stool in his frightened corner of the world, like a February 25, 1964, Ali-beaten Sonny Liston complaining an aching backbone is the reason he can’t get up.
That’s when the lemming-like rats aboard the USS Obama will start jumping ship, and the hapless, spineless Barack will busy himself rearranging the proverbial deck chairs on the Titanic. And, like you can’t find a grown up hippie these days who’ll admit to spitting on a just- arrived-home GI in an airport fresh from the Vietnam war, in time no one will admit to being mesmerized by the Obama spell. The synchophants will crawl into their Hollywood, New York, metropolitan holes, the A holes never to be heard from again. The modern day Hanoi Janes will disappear like rats down a sewer.
EVEN WITH OBAMA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME SOME OF THIS WRITING I ACTUALLY LIKE.
Barack Obama lives in a world where words always speak louder than actions. The problem with that belief is that sometimes tyrants and terrorists are deaf when it comes to words; like Lenin, only understanding something as basic as the finely honed steel tip of a razor sharp bayonet.
If great speeches could win the war on terrorism, America would be home free. If Obama truly believes that making war on Republicans and conservatives is the way to final victory, the only victory Sir Obama will ever taste will be a pyrric one.
Great men are destined to accomplish great things. File the Obama administration, hatefilled, humorless and graciousness challenged as it is under D. Not for Democratic. D as in doomed. to endless charges of moral bankruptcy, scandal, incompetence.
And, when all is said and done, defeat.
Rachel Peepers
Stanford University
Ground Zero for the Obama Derangement Syndrome.
@75 goy
Thanks for a fabulous post.
I call it HEDS; “His Emptiness Derangement Syndrome”. These assinine labels the Dumocrats and the MSM (mentally short-sighted media) conjure up are no better than the contrived “news” and other labels they use to cast a negative shadow on an idea or ideals that they want to condemn.
Barack is an inept empty suit and is proving so. I do hope he fails, because this will be a humongous chink in the Dumocrat armor. They need a major set back. I’d love to see it. The U.S. could survive this since He is not the king in any manir and the Constitution provides contingency plans. There are more psycho’s behind him, but that’s the Dumocrat Party.
I don’t think that people are so much deranged as rapidly coming to the realization that 0bama is the Segway scooter of politics. Even without all of the hype, he’s a mediocre politician. Add the hype, and it’s a comedy of the absurd.
Miss Peepers, you are exceptional.
Onward through the fog.
Today’s congressional vote of 244/188 revealed where we need to keep our focus.
We must vote out at least 57 congressional Dems in 2010.
We cannot allow anything to distract us from that goal.
Obama says his “recovery plan will include UNPRECEDENTED measures that will allow the American people to hold [his] administration ACCOUNTABLE” yet Obama refuses to be held ACCOUNTABLE to the same American people for his UNPRECEDENTED refusal to show his actual birth certificate.
I’m a liberal democrat, and even I am growing weary of the slavish devotion the MSM has for Obama. It’s gotten so bad that I’ve started to read the Wall Street Journal–seems more measured than the Times. Maybe that’s why the WSJ is doing financially better than the NYT–the reporting seems less biased.
@87 Rachel P: BRAVA!!! BRAVA!!! If you’re not blogging independently somewhere, you should be.
@88 Terry Gain: thanks for the inspiration.
“REMEMBER THIS IS MY SYNDROME TALKING.”
LOL! That needs to be my signature for the next four years.
Rachel, that whole rant was most excellent! 19? Wow!
If nine to twelve years from now an ‘out of country’ birth certificate comes to light, what ever could be done about the situation? Because I assure you that it will never happen earlier. Right now no one in the political machinery would want the problem of an ‘illegitimate’ president.
Lots of judgments about Obama’s performance – all 8 days of it. There isn’t a single person on this board who can predict the future of this country under Obama, no matter how badly you want this country to fail. For eight years I’ve heard nothing but right-wing sniveling about the left undermining the war or the flag or the president or motherhood or marriage or the “brave men and women in harm’s way” that you chickenhawks so readily appropriate. (You’re a great American.) Well, if you didn’t like it then, why are you doing it now? It’s clear to me that the only motive Republicans or conservatives have is not prosperity or justice or innovation or opportunity or safety – it’s revenge. You got your pee wee knocked in the dirt and you don’t like it, so you’re gonna “do everything you can to make sure Obama fails” as some knuckle head up there said. You’re not a patriot . . . I’m not questioning your patriotism, I’m just saying you’re not patriotic. So don’t worry about working against this great country of ours. Four or eight or sixteen years from now, you’ll get another chance to free us from the tyranny of intelligence ushered in by Obama. I’m sure you’ll be greeted as liberators.
Mr. McCain:
“Conservative activists have labored for decades, with little success, to build a right-wing equivalent of the Left’s militant hordes.”
That ain’t Conservatives’ style. Tey don’t terrorize via the street mob…that would destroy property, (and Property is a very dear concept to a conservative).
No, the Conservative answer to the Left’s thuggery would be “Death Squads”.
A New York Times editor here, a college professor there, a network news reporter next week…
Geez…am I the only mo-fo ’round here to remember central and south America in the 70′s and 80′s?
TO: All
RE: Show US the Birth Certificate….
….and much of this will go away.
Ooops…..
….too late. He’s the president now and has control of the FBI, CIA, NSA, not to forget the Treasury department and their ability print official documents.
Sooooo….
….., in my honestly held opinion, we’ve got an illegal alien as the President of the United States.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Every people get the governance they deserve.]
Well, one could wait at least until Obama invades the wrong country and trashes it….
P.S. How clever…..
Oama
Derangement
Syndrome
Spells O…D…S…
Can you odious?
I knew you could….
Rachel:
“I’m embarrassed to admit it, but lil’ ole, 19 year old blond haired, blue eyed me seems to be a victim of the Obama Derangement Syndrome.”
Uh, from the perspective of an old (66 years) and just totally nasty ‘ol white dude,
you are certainly on “my wavelength”, and have totally “nailed it”.
But, please, can you shorten it up a bit ? I grew up in the “cowboy culture”. Short.
And, to the point. If you “agree”, fine. Buy him a beer. If you disagree, fine.
Kick his ass. If you are able. If not, then slink out of the dance hall. And, keep your shit to yourself.
On the other hand, you could possibly give “lie” to my younger brother’s problem with
“young females”. That, in his view of females under 30 years old, they don’t have anything “to say”.
I keep telling him “what they say is not the point”. I’ve had a good time with “some”.
On the other hand, having “good vibes” sure does help. Really, REALLY helps.
It’s what “makes the whole deal worthwhile”. {:^)
Dan
Admiring how clearly you think. I’m jealous, Ann.
You compliment makes me blush like a school girl. Thanks
goy. (and I love your name)
Tommyd. I hope one day each of us will be able to say, “I made it through the rain”. (writer, Gerard Kenny, singer, Barry Manilow)
typo: Your
87 Rachel P- great comment.
But again I would like to remind everyone that it wasn’t the proverbial ‘thrill up the leg’ that got Bambi elected.
We were about to have another Republican president.
But then all hell breaks loose.
Charles Shumer, liberal Democrat finger pointer (NY) knew that banks, AIG and many others had poisonous trash loan packages from Fannie and Freddie Mack.
Democrats had known this for 2 or more years.
He then points out Washington Mutual Bank, California,
for sacrifice to the Obamessiah, or the Hildusa.
But Robin Hood Democrats also promised bailouts.
Lehman Bros. went under, AIG was bailed out, Citi Bank, Chrysler, GM- etc. The snow ball effect was long and distinguished.
Now we have a master disaster created by the Democrats but blamed on the Republicans.
Oh! Did I mention their I Won was elected.
Now the Democrats need 3 trillion dollars for their future conquest of socialists Amerker and the American voters.
With 40 years of a Democrat controlled House and Senate in their future.
Also vision
1930 to 1970 – Back to the Future- with Biff controlling the Casino.
@104 Rachel P: - Your compliment makes me blush like a school girl.
I once knew a 19-year old with the same heart-stopping command of irony. That was 35 years ago. She was 17. Haunts me to this day. So stop! You’re killing me.
- goy. (and I love your name)
I earned it. And my little blog, too.
p.s. Really, you NEED to be blogging independently. I am so serious.
Oh Chuckie boy! You’re a nirther! You’re prolly right, but please report immediately to the tar and feather department.
/You’re not supposed to ask if Dinnerjacket is short, or if Assad has a chin, or if Putin is a gangster, or if 0bama is legally qualified to be POTUS.
OK, “Sambo” is a parody, isn’t it? A fairly good one, but that many layers of stupidity sort of undermine the credibility of the work. The current “Sambo” rev sounds like an adolescent frantically masturbating a tragically undersized ego.
Try adding some “for the children” or “social justice” references. Oh, and don’t forget “fairness”. The Lefties love that sort of vacuous B.S. Especially if delivered with some “gravitas”. Might make the parody sound more believable.
So … that guy who wrote the NYTimes op-ed fulminating about Joe the Plumber getting a book deal (how dare he when real writers are going begging?) … I wonder what he thinks of Obama’s book deal.
Rachel Peepers:
“Should I watch PBS”
I hope you made an informed vote by watching:
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/election2008/
Still has alot of interesting information, you may have missed.
Maybe next term you can catch the coverage, if you still care?
http://www.pbs.org/frontlineworld/election2008/
This is the video in particular, pertaining to this subject matter.
It’s called “Dreams of Obama”. Released Jan 2009.
Delia, Fear Obama, Dan, I know it sounds silly, but whenever somebody like Hurley says something kind of negative to me, my feelings get hurt.
But when you guys, whose comments I love reading, say such nice things, it’s my chicken soup for the soul. It makes it all better.
So thanks. Maybe I’m overly concerned about Obama’s election. I just don’t trust the guy.
And, goy, I looked for your website but couldn’t find it. Maybe if you’re still thinking about her…well, you know what I mean.
Love, Rachel
I have seen more victims of “derangement syndrome” recently. The anti-Palin crowd was pretty bad. And I will never forgot the constant exposure to the anti-Hillary disease among progressives during the Democratic primaries. I am a progressive, but I believe that the Left has come close to psychosis in its hatred of Bush, particularly when Democrats whom liberals praise supported many of Bush’s policies, which they despise.
PS: If the media continue to deify Obama, I suspect that the syndrome will spread to more moderate types and to progressives. Sometimes hype is maddening.
87. Rachel Peepers:
“So can anybody give me a little guidance?
While I know Barack doesn’t want me to listen to Rush or Shawn or Ann, my next question has to be, “What am I supposed to be watching on TV and listening to on the radio?””
If you’re serious about this, a simple answer to a simple question:
Hear and read anything on both sides. Use your Philosophy class principles to establish the truth. Then make up your own mind.
Being at Stanford, you may feel as one against the world. Your current convictions may be too strong, but an open mind can do wonders.
# 25 Charlie (CO)
Please don’t confuse vivo.
#61 cedarford
I thought we all had read your brilliance once before. I assume this is more of your in-depth research.
“So can anybody give me a little guidance?”
–
Rachel,
1. Get a new boyfriend. Find a nice conservative boy who shares your pro life values and will support you emotionally. It takes great courage for a young person to be pro life, but in the face of ignorance all around you, you need all the support you can get.
2. Stick to the facts. (Obama is continuing the NSA program. Democrat opposition to the program was always just political posturing.)
3. Whenever you have to contend with BDS say : ask “so what is it about the liberation of 60 million Muslims that bothers you so much”?
4. Read McGrory and Bhattia’s Saddam’s Bomb. This book, written in 1999, details the extent to which Sadddam went to develop nuclear weapons and just how close he as when he started the Gulf War and Iraq’s facilities were bombed. You will realize that Saddam would have again re-started his WMD programs the moment sanctions ended and the world truned its back on him.
5. Recognize Obama Arrangement Syndrome – believing that someone with his resume is up to the job and supporting that belief by ignoring all of his gaffes and suggesting that he has wisdom and judgment that he simply doesn’t have – and point it out (OAS) whenever you see it. (Learn what an unmitigated disaster it would have been for Iraq, the entire middle east and America if oil rich Iraq had been conceded to al Qaeda and Iran – as he advocated -and hammer your liberal friends with this every chance you get. Remember they support the war in Afghanistan – which will take a hundred years to democratize, if ever, and yet they scorn Iraqis who are embracing democracy even as I type this.
6. Be fair. There is no need to go overboard criticizing Obama and the Democrats. Just tell the truth. Even as they purport to rescue the American economy -and doing their best to turn the United States into a banana republic – they want to give 5 billion dollars of taxpayers’ money to their election fraud branch aka Acorn.
7. Be proud of yourself . You are wise beyond your years. Stand up and fight (like Sarah, not McCain).
8. Call your lawyer father – as does this lawyer’s daughter – as often as you can and tell him you love him.
@114
“I am a progressive, but I believe that the Left has come close to psychosis in its hatred of Bush, particularly when Democrats whom liberals praise supported many of Bush’s policies, which they despise”.
—
Not only a progressive, but rational and honest. Now take the next step. True progressives support progress and the liberation of Iraq is progress. Not only did Iraqis choose democracy, they fought al Qaeda when it tried to prevent the establishment of democracy in their country.
Bush turned Iraq from one of the leading supporters and proponents of Muslim terrorism into an ally in the war against it. I’m not waiting for historians to tell me this was a monumental achievement of a transformative presidency.
Obama Arrangement Syndrome – NBC “newsman” Brian Williams
LETTERMAN: We’re talking about three million people in the streets there at the mall.
WILLIAMS: For a public event. It was absolutely stunning. People with tears in their eyes. Dave, people lining up, and this is something I just can’t wrap my arms around, to buy merchandise with any depiction — this is a guy we just elected President. It’s not a rock star or an athlete or an actor. This is our President. To see people, whatever your politics, that excited about our new chief executive after a line of what the ordinary voter would maybe describe as bad choices or choices of evils, for years, generations. [audience laughter] It is unbelievable to me. And, again, this is absent politics. This has to do with history and excitement. As events go, it was a stunner.
—
Yes, it is unbelievable. Absent politics indeed. And hilariously delusional. No doubt it’s historic – the ordinary voter is a teeny bopper. Unfortunately.
Mcain:Don’t confuse derangement with resistance. This clown is a laundered thug ,with an affimative action Ivy League degree,who aspires to be America’s Hugo Chavez,complete with witless cultic sheep.He needs a shot fired across his bow.
98. sambo hux:
Okay, Mr. Patriot; Show us your DD 214!
TO: Terry Gain, et al.
RE: The TRUE Form….
“WILLIAMS: For a public event. It was absolutely stunning. People with tears in their eyes. Dave, people lining up, and this is something I just can’t wrap my arms around, to buy merchandise with any depiction….” — Terry Gain, citing someone else
….of Obama ‘Derangement’ Syndrome (ODS).
And it is TRULY odious.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[The Truth will out.....]
TO: Rachel Peepers
RE: Life….
“….I know it sounds silly, but whenever somebody like Hurley says something kind of negative to me, my feelings get hurt.” — Rachel Peepers
….is tough, that way. You need to be prepared to accept the ‘slings and arrows of outrageous fortune’, along with the likes of Hurley[-Gurley Man].
Develops a keen and insightful mind helps. Also a ‘thick skin’. Look on the later as ‘body armor’.
Keep up the good work….
…..we’re all excited.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Illegitimi Non Carborundum]
Terry,
Wow. What great thoughts. Thanks so much. Your thinking sounds crystal clear, and you express it so well. I’ll try to put into practice your suggestions.
Vivo,
Although the guidance requests I made were what I’d call logical extensions of a condescending pompous, pretentious pipsqueak, your suggestions, Vivo, I take to heart, because they’re smart and helpful. Thank you. Incidentally, I read Daily Kos and Moveon.org and am a member of each. Plus during the campaign, not only was I getting all the McCain emails, but I received all of Hillary’s and Barack’s emails from both campaigns. Of course, for full disclosure, in the Bush 2004 campaign I was a paid freelancer of a state Republican Party, creating attack videos against Kerry, while working a bit with Paul Hoffman, admiral of the Swiftboats, who, in June 2000, was being ignored by the media and ridiculed by Kerry staffers.
When Kerry came out and spoke those fateful words, “Reporting for Duty”, my under-the-radar internet Kerry attack team knew Kerry had stepped in it with both feet. I remember saying to the TV, “John, you just lost.”
TO: Pee Wee Herman, Community Organizer:
RE: Heh
“Oh Chuckie boy! You’re a nirther! You’re prolly right, but please report immediately to the tar and feather department.” — Pee Wee Herman, Community Organizer
….I laugh at tar and feathers. They are nothing compared to Colonel ‘No Slack’ Stack.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid.]
P.S. Pee Wee….guess what….
Another typo: The Swiftboat guys, in June 2004, (not 2000) met in Washington and were being ignored by the mainstream media.
“WILLIAMS: For a public event. It was absolutely stunning. People with tears in their eyes. Dave, people lining up, and this is something I just can’t wrap my arms around, to buy merchandise with any depiction….” — Terry Gain, citing someone else
….of Obama ‘Derangement’ Syndrome (ODS).
Chuck
Non comprehendo. I cited Williams as an example of Obama ARRANGEMENT Syndrome.
@113 Rachel:- goy, I looked for your website but couldn’t find it.
Just click my ‘handle’ up above. Presto.
- Maybe if you’re still thinking about her… well, you know what I mean.
I do. I did. Funny thing: time, as it turns out, doesn’t heal all wounds. Who knew!? The problem, then, was that I was also 19. And not in a good way. But that’s a whole other thread.
And BTW, I heartily invite you to take vivo’s advice.
My guess is that it would come as a genuine shock to the “vivos” here to learn how many of us who frequent this and other ostensibly conservative communities are ex-Democrats – including luminaries like Bill Whittle, Neo-Neocon and PJM’s Roger Simon. Many of us opposed Reagan and voted for Clinton (the first time). But like Reagan, the Democratic Party left us, not the other way around. Through life experience we have come to understand human nature – not the nature Marx fantasized in Das Kapital but, ironically, the nature cataloged and explained by Darwin. To boot, some of us (ahem) are conservative only in very specific areas.
Contrary to the common, willful misconception carefully nurtured and given straw man “life” by the vivos – i.e., that we get all our information and opinions from Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity or the Old Testament – we have in point of fact “[heard] and read anything on both sides, [used] Philosophy class principles to establish the truth [and made] up our own mind[s]“.
The fact is that we see a history littered with 150,000,000 souls murdered in the name of socialist “progress”. We see serial killers and thugs like Stalin, Mao and Che lionized as heroes because they had the “courage” to resort to violence and murder in pursuit of some nebulous “change” they neither understood nor achieved. We see every flavor of socialism either having failed catastrophically (USSR, DPRK), in the process of failing (EU, RdC, Africa – take your pick), or morphing into something entirely new (PRC) everywhere it’s ever been tried. And many of us feel a disgust that only comes with the realization that we used to root for this ideology and its proponents… until we grew up.
This aspect of conservatives escapes the grasp of the cedarford-Hurley/Troll-vivo crowd, who are still carefully nurturing the morally adolescent self-righteousness we were long ago forced by undeniable facts and inescapable reason to abandon. That’s why it’s necessary for them to ascribe – project, actually – fantastical motives (on)to our commentary and our political positions.
@9 vivo’s “The right-wingers complex of inferiority” is a perfect example of this. The notion that one could feel in any way inferior to a documented liar and a fraud – one whose only qualifications for office comprise half-African ancestry, socialist activism and the ability to read from a teleprompter with conviction – is a notion to which only a moral adolescent could possibly subscribe or expect others to. As such, what vivo slings as a would-be “insult” comes off as an insipid joke. Hurley/Troll’s commentary is similarly off-the-mark and, thus, just as revealing. In a nutshell, this is why many exchanges between our ideological tribes break down: the left literally has no idea who they’re talking to. And they’re not interested in knowing.
So do follow vivo’s advice. You’ll find your current convictions and sensibilities validated no matter which direction you look.
Does ODS exist? Not according to Conservapedia.
Actually that’s not true, if you go to Conservapedia they have an entry on ODS; it apparently stands for Ozone Depleting Substance.
Conservapedia is an interesting thing. If you look up Barrack Obama you get to read an entry that spends much of its space proving that Obama is a Muslim.
Then when you look up Jeremiah Wright, it states Obama has been attending a Christian church for over 20 years and one of his mentors is a Christian pastor.
Funny how Conservapedia can say Obama is a Muslim, then say Obama is a Christian, then deny the existence of Obama Derangement Syndrome.
It’s funny that “a Christian” would choose a racist as his mentor. Is he not very bright or just lacking Christian values?
Love how Obama feels threatened by the right-wing press. I guess he’s not used to people who don’t follow the crowd and think for themselves. Sorry Obama, we all didn’t partake of the kool-aid. I think Vivo and sambo hux got my share (thank God!). Drink up boys…you’re going to need it. When you come out of that liberal coma and realize we’ve been here holding down the fort for future generations, you can thank us then!
- Funny how Conservapedia can say Obama is a Muslim, …
He was. Only he knows if he still is.
…then say Obama is a Christian, …
He claims to be. His choice of community in this regard leaves doubts, however.
… then deny the existence of Obama Derangement Syndrome.
Why pretend it does?
#87 Rachel Peepers:
“So can anybody give me a little guidance?”
Naster your studies in a discipline that’s in demand on the job market, get a great job, make a lot of money.
Marry well, have a solid an loving relationship with your husband, make a great kid or three.
Exercise and stay healthy…don’t defer the body maintenance,(if it begins to sag, get it jacked up).
Look great at 50.
And let those losers kiss your ass.
Living well is the best revenge.
Any of your future ex-classmates who may seem particularly bitter…wait until they scrimp and save and finally buy a home, and then buy the house across the street from theirs and donate it to the state correctional system as a “Halfway House” for sex offenders.
OK, OK, OK, enough already, I can’t take any more hoaxes: First we have Al Gore’s global warming, next comes Obama being a constitutionally qualified President, followed by Obama’s stimulus plan, but now we have Robert Reich telling us why we need stronger unions. Are we heading for Saturday Night Live 24/7?
“BUGS: And of course liberals and conservatives both say “We’re not paranoid – OUR fears are REAL, OUR accusations are based on FACTS. How can you look at the man, his background, his policies, etc., and deny that his election is the worst calamity ever to befall this Republic?”
Meanwhile, in the real world, our lives go on pretty much as they always have.
So yeah – disagree with Obama’s policies and criticize the way he runs the country. We need to keep him and his fellow Democrats honest, to hold them to the same “high standards” they applied to the Bush administration. Don’t let them get away with anything. But try to be honest about the man himself. You don’t really know him any better than the Bush haters knew the man Bush.
And most of all, try to show some dignity. Don’t scream and swear and lie and exaggerate and draw false parallels and put on large, papier mache heads (at least not in public) and post comments assuring everyone that the end of Civilization is at hand. In other words, don’t act like a Liberal. You ought to know better…
Jan 28, 2009″
To BUGS:
Seriously, are you kidding? Are you blind to reality? In your desperate wish for the system to work as it may have long ago are you ignoring the very real peril we face?
The reluctance of conservatives like BUGS to join the fray on its battleground is precisely why we find ourselves at this juncture in our young country’s life. Your admonishment is preposterous and will ensure the demise of our Republic.
Link and excerpt from “Why Isn’t Socialism Dead?”
http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=050506I
Thus, in the coming century, those who are advocates of capitalism may well find themselves confronted with “a myth gap.” Those who, like Chavez, Morales, and Castro, are preaching the old time religion of socialism may well be able to tap into something deeper and more primordial than mere reason and argument, while those who advocate the more rational path of capitalism may find that they have few listeners among those they most need to reach — namely, the People.
Worse, in a populist democracy, the People have historically demonstrated a knack of picking as their leaders those know the best and most efficient way to by-pass their reason — demagogues who can reach deep down to their primordial and, alas, often utterly irrational instincts. This, after all, has been the genius of every great populist leader of the past, as it is proving to be the genius of those populist leaders who are now springing up around the world, from Bolivia to Iran.
This is why socialism isn’t dead, and why in our own century it may well spring back into life with a force and vigor shocking to those who have, with good reason, declared socialism to be no longer viable. It is also why Georges Sorel is perhaps even more relevant today than he was a hundred years ago. He knew that it was hopeless to guide men by reason and argument alone. Men need myths — and until capitalism can come up with a transformative myth of its own, it may well be that many men will prefer to find their myths in the same place they found them in the first part of the twentieth century — the myth of revolutionary socialism.
This is the challenge that capitalism faces in the world today — whether it will rise to the challenge is perhaps the most urgent question of our time, and those who refuse to confront this challenge are doing no service to reason or to human dignity and freedom. Bad myths can only be driven out by better myths, and unless capitalism can provide a better myth than socialism, the latter will again prevail.”
Anyone…ANYONE who continues to believe and promote the myth that this war for our country can be won under the old rules is in a state of terminal denial.
CYBERGEEZER: DD214? Don’t have one. Still in. 1st Combat Engineer Battalion. Fought in the Battle of Fallujah. Saw it for what it is, not what I want it to be. Know what’s right, not what’s easy. I’ll be happy to take anybody back with me when I return (April). Any takers? Didn’t think so. Candya#$ses.
sambo hux typed:
“I’ll be happy to take anybody back with me when I return (April). Any takers?”
Not that I envy you, but I was denied admission, because of a physical impairment.
I’m down with it, though, if you are paying, and providing meals and shelter during my stay?
What’s that marching tune? Goes something like…dug her up, f#$ked her in the b#tt…
98. sambo hux:
136. sambo hux:
I was with U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. I know, first hand, there were some handicapped personnel. Mentally handicapped. Had no support for the nations top cop.
If you’re here, I’d say you have some common sense and redeemable qualities. But I could be wrong. Godspeed. Essayons.
#98 sambo hux:
“I’ve heard nothing but right-wing sniveling about the left undermining the war or the flag or the president or motherhood or marriage or the “brave men and women in harm’s way” that you chickenhawks so readily appropriate.”
Why do you make the assumption that pro-war conservatives are “chickenhawks”?
As I understnd the Lefty slang, a “chickenhawk” is someone who never served in the military, but supports the war.
For your information, I served. A grunt in a Marine infantry battalion, and later spent Desert Scam on a big grey unarmed ship loaded with about 200 Marine Air Wingers tied to a dock in Jubail, Saudi Arabia, while Saddam’s boys fired SCUDS at us.
I’ll wager that there’s a lot more vets on the Conservative side of the aisle than over at the “Code Pink Cafe” end.
“Fought in the Battle of Fallujah. Saw it for what it is, not what I want it to be.”
And what was it, sonny? Hmmm?
A meat-grinder?…a logistical exercise in human mathematics:
“we project X amount of combat effectives per square kilometer…add men to account for the defense multiplier of an enemy in a MOUT environment, subtract men for the attack multipliers for our C3I, our superior maneuver capability, and our overwhelming supporting arms assets.
Begin with worst estimate of enemy strength, subtract the factor for their lack of training and rudimentary C3I, also subtract for their deteriorating logistics.
Formula derives a time factor for victory.
Add or subtract from that product depending on how many casualties you’re willing to suffer and how much collateral damage you’re willing to inflict.”
…was this revelation of yours roughly something like that? From the “anonymous number value’s” point of view?
Newsflash for you soldier…it’s ALWAYS been like that, since at least General Grant’s march to Richmond.
You think you got an eye-opener? Talk with any Iwo Jima or Chosin Marines?
How about old soldiers from WW2 or Korea?
Our forces have lost what? 5,000 or so in almost 6 years of operations.
In World War 2, they’d lose 5,000 in a week, and call it a “quiet period”.
Hell, Grant lost 4,000 in about an hour at Cold Harbor.
“Any takers? Didn’t think so. Candya#$ses.”
Mmmm-hmmm.
One vet to another, and from one guy whose “seen the elephant” to another:
Stop being a punk.
You volunteered for it, so man the f*ck up.
It doesn’t make you better or worse,smarter or dumber, braver or more cowardly…it just means you were there.
And you ain’t got any kind of monopoly on that, kiddo.
sambo hux:
“chickenhawks”
“Candya#$ses.”
Sigh…you really gotta get with the new meme, sonny. The “All pro-war conservatives have never served in the military” thing is SO 2004.
I don’t take it personally, since I was a grunt in a Marine infantry battalion, (1/4 to be precise, and I believe they were ALSO at Fallujah…and they “got some”).
Saw the elephant in Desert Storm, serving on a big grey,(unarmed), ship packed with Marine Air Wingers and their gadgets and goodies while Sadaam’s boys shot SCUDS at us in Jubail.
“Fought in the Battle of Fallujah. Saw it for what it is, not what I want it to be.”
And would that be the “Science” part of “Military Science”?
The “anonymous number value’s” point of view of what is little more than a logistical exercise?
Formula goes something like this:
# of our combat effectives vs. worst estimate of # of their combat effectives. (Rule of thumb has been attacker/defender ratio of 3/1 for centuries, given evenly matched opponents in arms, maneuver, and training).
Add or subtract to project X amount of our guys per square kilometer.
Adjust for terrain, (MOUT, in this case).
Add or subtract from our guy’s total for advantage multipliers of C3I superiority, command of the air,maneuver, and supporting arms capabilities and rest/resupply opportunities, as well as medical care availability. Subtract for enemy’s lack of formal training and effects of blockade on his logistics.
This formula should give you a rough figure of how many fighting men to deploy, and on how long it will take you to pacify the area in question.
You then fine-tune it with considerations of how many losses you’re willing to take and how much collateral damage you’re willing to cause.
That’s (very roughly),the “Science”…now how all that is combined and employed is the “Art”…and if the Logisticians have been able to do the Science well, then the battle’s usually more than halfway won.
Was that the “what it is” that you saw?
News-flash for you soldier. It’s been like that since at least the Civil War…Grant’s “Bleeding his way to Victory”.
Talk to some WWII Marines or MacArthur’s soldiers who did the Island hopping thing. By the autumn of ’44, they had it doped almost to the 6 hour window when enemy resistance would be broken.
You’re in a war that’s cost 5000 dead roughly in almost six years of operations.
In World War II, 5000 dead was a “Light” month.
Grant lost 4000 in under an hour at Cold Harbor, (II Corps, Army of the Potomac learned the hard way not to charge well-manned trenches…they say General Hancock was never the same chap after).
So you were at Fallujah…between us…so what?
Take it from one vet to another, and one guy whose seen the elephant to another:
Stop being a punk.
You volunteered for this…so man the phuck up.
It doesn’t make you better or worse, smarter or dumber, braver or more cowardly. It just means you were there.
And you ain’t got any monopoly on that, kiddo.
Not around here…
I am developing a case of ODDDS (Obama Dumbing Deviancy Downward Syndrome).
When I see a man who can convince a majority of the American public a 1.2 trillion (interest accrued) subsidization of buying votes an economic stimulus, I get ODDDS.
When I see what I originally presumed to be reasonably intelligent folks faint, cry, pee in their pants, or shake uncontrollably at another Obama speech, where he has dynamically said nothing, I get a raging case of ODDDS.
When I see a majority of Americans vote for a man they think honest and forthright, who has been surrounded his entire life by anarchists, terrorists, blatant racists, American haters including his feckless wife, felons, and corrupt politicians, you guessed it…ODDDS takes hold.
124. Rachel Peepers:
128. goy:
“Vivo,
Although the guidance requests I made were what I’d call logical extensions of a condescending pompous, pretentious pipsqueak, your suggestions, Vivo, I take to heart, because they’re smart and helpful. Thank you. ”
I can tell you are a bright young woman. Your direct political experience seems to be a lot more than mine. So you probably know things that I don’t.
goy has some interesting concepts and experience. You can be a mix of liberalism and conservatism for specific situations. It’s not a contradiction, it’s a form of balance. Maybe that’s why Independents exist. But the strident fringes will label you according to their narrow interpretation.
So follow your heart and mind, you will always have enemies and friends . . .
128. goy:
“This aspect of conservatives escapes the grasp of the cedarford-Hurley/Troll-vivo crowd, who are still carefully nurturing the morally adolescent self-righteousness we were long ago forced by undeniable facts and inescapable reason to abandon. That’s why it’s necessary for them to ascribe – project, actually – fantastical motives (on)to our commentary and our political positions.”
“nurturing the morally adolescent self-righteousness” just because I think the world can be better? Just because I have hopes? Just because bad experiences don’t break me down? Just because I want to try rather than talk? Just because I’m still learning after long decades in this world? Just because I think I’m right? Thanks for making me think, because “I think, therefore I am”.
{Bilgeman}
I’ll wager that there’s a lot more vets on the Conservative side of the aisle than over at the “Code Pink Cafe” end.
I resemble that remark.
You won’t find me pandering for a bone.
141. Tex Taylor
AMEN.
Outrage must lead to action, else it is “full of sound and fury signifying nothing”.
Small steps by millions of outraged citizens will lead us out of the soul-sucking swamp created by the Left.
@143. vivo: - “nurturing the morally adolescent self-righteousness” just because I think the world can be better? …
No. Not because you think the world can be better.
Pay attention. Your question is clear evidence that you didn’t comprehend what I wrote. Or you willfully ignored it, in which case the question is simple insolence, which I believe is more likely since it’s pretty much the hallmark of the left.
Read the entire paragraph, which clearly explains that “it’s necessary for them to ascribe – project, actually – fantastical motives (on)to our commentary and our political positions.” You just did exactly that by misrepresenting what I actually wrote – ignoring what was there and replacing it with something easily dismissed.
I never mentioned anything about you thinking the world can be better, or your having hopes, etc. You’d like to think so, apparently, but that fantasy is yours alone. It’s not reality.
You’ve provided another perfect example of that here. To whit, you can’t address conservative ideology directly, so you replace it with straw man fallacies that are easy to dismiss. The fact is that they’re easy to dismiss because they’re lies. You do this because, to quote Sorkin: you can’t handle the truth.
The reality is that you’re clinging to a morally adolescent, self-righteous attitude and you paint the world around you – in particular, those espousing conservative ideologies and/or those pointing out the enormous flaws in leftist ideologies – so that it fits that attitude. I did it myself for years. The difference, though, is that I stopped.
Bilgeman: First, I’m not your sonny and not your kiddo, unless, of course, you’re my grandpa or the crazy old prick down the street who saves his dog crap in a Tupperware bowl. Fact is, you’re part of the problem – you agreed to kill in the name of those who have nothing to lose – Dick “five deferments” Cheney, George “Alabama Booze Cruise” Bush, Rush “I got a pimple on my ass” Limbaugh. Or maybe you didn’t kill. Maybe you just sat and watched from the deck of that Show Boat. You say, “The “All pro-war conservatives have never served in the military” thing is SO 2004.” No, it’s not. It’s endless. That’s the problem. We are where we are because of a commitment to endless war by a generation of repressed pencil dicks – the stewards of the military-industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about. Turn away from that. Support a future where you don’t have to watch a five-year-old girl run into the street screaming on fire . . . where your buddy doesn’t hand you his eye and beg you to put it back in. Don’t tell me to “Man the phuck up” you brainwashed old redneck. Tell you what, just keep cutting and pasting that battle science crap . . . keep sounding all military . . . keep believing in the nobility of being played for a patsy.
sambo hux:
“First, I’m not your sonny and not your kiddo,”
Actually, you’re probably of the right age to be my son, which is why I’m taking it easy on you.
Fact is, we left a half-done job in 1991 because our policymakers listened to those very “No Blood For Oil!” people whose asses you’ve been kissing, and almost all of us knew it.
Had we done what needed to be done then, you and your mates wouldn’t have needed to be in Iraq today. But that ain’t how it turned out.
So if you’re looking for someone to blame for your bud and his missing eye, you can look no further than those clowns who’ve pumped the notion that you’re a patsy into your head.
Or has your morale been broken to the point that you’re willing to puss out and run away home so that some little snot-nosed six year old today, somewhere playing with his Nintendo Wii, just like you were playing with your Mighty Morphin’ Power Rangers back in your childhood, will have to go back to the Sandbox in 15 or 20 years to carry YOUR slack?
Whatcha gonna say to that kid and HIS eyeball hanging out of it’s socket then?
“Turn away from that.”
YOU turn away from that. If Fallujah broke you, and you’re rolling around there with your defeatist attitude, then desert. With your attitude, you’re a hazard to your unit and it’s cohesion. The only thing you’d be good for would be as a shrapnel-stopper.
Go find a hole in the ground to crawl into and live the rest of whatever life you can.
“Fact is, you’re part of the problem – you agreed to kill in the name of those who have nothing to lose – Dick “five deferments” Cheney, George “Alabama Booze Cruise” Bush,”
Since you don’t know me, and have no earthly idea of why I joined or why I served, your projection is all BS supposition…and demonstrably wrong.
FYI, MY President Bush flew torpedo-bombers in the WWII Pacific…you wanna crawl into a low and slow aluminum gas tank and fly straight and level at the side of a Japanese battleship or cruiser, with all those machine-guns trained ONLY on little old you?
George H W Bush was shot down 5 times doing crazy shit like that…and those chums of yours labelled him a “Wimp”…
But that’s neither here nor there. The Commander in Chief is whoever the American Electorate SAYS it is. If it’s a guy who served honorably in the Texas Air National Guard, or an Ivy League Draft-dodging Rhodes Scholar, then that’s who it is.
YOUR part in that equation is to the best of your ability, faithfully execute the orders that he or she passes down to you in the chain of command.
Man up…or run away. In either case, stop being a punk.
#144 TommyD:
“I resemble that remark.
You won’t find me pandering for a bone.”
I don’t think the kid is pandering, I think he’s ashamed, he’s pissed off and he’s scared. T’ain’t much fun when you realize that you’re nothing more than a wee little pawn on a very big chessboard or a tiny cog in a vast machine.
You should remember…that truly sucked.
But that’s the way it is.
And since our society is one where the individual is so sacrosanct, we are ill-prepared when reality shows us that we ain’t all that and a bag of chips.
Frankly, I think Brother sambohux was defeated by the enemy. The point of warfare is to break the enemy’s will to fight, and judging from his remarks here…stick a fork in him,he’s done.
Again, it happens…and it isn’t necessarily something to be ashamed of, (although if you wanna compare the kinds of nightmares a combat engineer has versus, say, a Navy corpsman or a combat medic has….).
But what is shameful is that on the one hand he wants to wear his battle ribbons and lord it over all the “candy-assed chickenhawks” for being patsies and stooges for BushCo, while he himself is apparently too chickenshit to walk it like he talks it and desert to Canada.
The tragedy is that not only was he defeated by the enemy on the battlefield, but that he then was again defeated on the terrain of his own mind by internalizing the cynical and defeatist propaganda that he spouts.
And the effect of that is that by the measure of what he professes here, all he and his friends suffered and sacrificed was for naught.
The great crime is that Sambohux has been further victimized after a traumatic experience for the sake of a political agenda. Sambohux needs some help to work through what has happened to him and come to grips with his shame. Perhaps only other veterans are the ones who can help him work that out, but he’s got to get the chip off his shoulder first and stop lashing out at the people who are most in a position to understand what he’s been through.
But as long as he’s willing to whore himself out for the political benefit of the very people who raped his mind when he was most vulnerable, that isn’t going to happen.
Sambo:
You sound as if you’re angry that someone made off with your prized tupperware collection housing your award winning collection of dog turds. Probably due to your myopia, which explains why you’re unable to read the writting on the wall. I wonder how long have the voices been whispering to you? And the last question is whether you’ve gotten your little Obamie Youth Corps uniform to model for your mommie in her basement?
Can we hear some more of your inner Gollum? I want to know how long all those caterwauling crescendos can continue or if you have to make a break when your diaper gets too messy.
Obamie has achieved level 666 in the Helen Thomas braying moonbat contest. There is no where else for him to go or to aspire to.
Thomas Jackson: If that’s your REAL name.
“caterwauling crescendos can continue” . . . whoa! I’m overwhelmed by your lyrical logical lessons letting lemmings like little old me know the truth. My mommy isn’t in the basement. She’s in the attic. She’s went up there when Valerie Plame was outed and said she wouldn’t come out until Bush made good on his promise to fire anybody in his administration who was involved. “Hold on ma, I’m typing on the Internets. I’ll bring up your donut in a minute. And remember, I don’t want you choking on it and falling off the couch and cutting your head. People will think you’re drinking again.”
And I don’t have a diaper, I lent it to David Vitter.
“No where else for him to go to to aspire to?” Who can argue with that syntax?
Bilgething: George HW Bush was shot down 5 times? Really? Five? I think that may be four too many, but who’s counting? I think you have him confused with John McCain, who crashed five planes before being shot down. And lastly, as to your view that I’m “apparently too chickenshit to walk it like he talks it and desert to Canada.” I’m not sure I follow. Are you promoting that a decorated soldier desert his post? That’s sedition, sir. You can expect a visit from the Hannity Patriot Enforcement Team. You’ll recognize them by their ruffled cuffs and the slight hint of jasmine and spackle emanating from the orifice vacant at the moment of their arrival. For your own good, offer them pancakes. They like pancakes.
Oh, by the way, congratulations on electing Michael Steele to be your new RNC gangleader. But don’t expect us to grab our ankles and bend over forward or backward or whatever just because he’s the first black RNC Chairman.
sambohux:
“And lastly, as to your view that I’m “apparently too chickenshit to walk it like he talks it and desert to Canada.” I’m not sure I follow.”
Yes…I rather figured you wouldn’t be able to compute that.
Let me elucidate the conundrum that you’ve placed yourself in.
You asserted:
“We are where we are because of a commitment to endless war by a generation of repressed pencil dicks.”
…and further:
“keep sounding all military . . . keep believing in the nobility of being played for a patsy.”
But to Cybergeezer you offered:
“I’ll be happy to take anybody back with me when I return (April).”
Which means, youngster, that by redeploying you are a willing patsy/stooge/redneck and facing the meatgrinder for the benefit of the present gang of repressed pencil-dicks.
And that doesn’t square at all with your “poor me the combat veteran” smack-talking.
Let me ask a question that you yourself posed back in comment #98 back at you:
“Well, if you didn’t like it then, why are you doing it now? ”
Well…why are YOU doing it now?
Could it be that your faith in these pacifistic ideals that you claim to have isn’t strong enough to overcome your fears of imprisonment and/or exile that actualizing them would mean?
Yup…you’re on the horns of a dilemna, young soldier-boy. Afraid of returning, afraid of running away.
Sucks to be YOU, ace.
“But don’t expect us to grab our ankles and bend over forward or backward or whatever just because he’s the first black RNC Chairman.”
I wouldn’t worry about that too much, sport.
You’re already bent over and grabbing your ankles…and right behind you I see George Soros grunting and sweating.
You’ve done been turned out, bitch.
You’re standing on the cyber street corner in your blues with your campaign ribbons disrespecting yourself, your service, and your sacrifice…and that of everyone else who has served, in Iraq and elsewhere.
If you want to be a whore for “Code Pimp”, that’s your business. But take off the uniform while you’re flat-backin’ for your Lefty buddies, m’kay?
It’s dishonorable…and that won’t be tolerated. Even if you are a dogface, I don’t like it one bit.
But I want you to think about something.
What if the Iraqis actually pull it off, and through the help we’ve given them, make something peaceable and sorta-kinda democratic of their country?
A place where 5 year old girls don’t burn up in the street, and nor where their daddies disappear and never come home, and the only memento they have is the bill for the bullets the regime used to kill them with.
I’m not expecting Minnesota or anything, (this would STILL be the Sandbox, but within that context…)
Having a part in helping to create something like that would be something to be proud of.
And if you think about it, we’re almost at the point where we can’t do much more as it is.
Sadaam is worm-food, and the Mooj are broken and on the run, exploring “martyrdom opportunities” in Yemen.
That’s something to be proud of,
And for what it’s worth, I’m proud of you for your part in making that happen.
Any of your pimp chums on the Left ever tell you that they’re proud of you?
146. goy:
“@143. vivo: – “nurturing the morally adolescent self-righteousness” just because I think the world can be better? …
No. Not because you think the world can be better.
Pay attention. Your question is clear evidence that you didn’t comprehend what I wrote.”
It’s obvious the you don’t understand what YOU wrote.
“I never mentioned anything about you thinking the world can be better, or your having hopes, etc. You’d like to think so, apparently, but that fantasy is yours alone. It’s not reality.”
Another proof that you didn’t get my drift. And thinking that the world cannot be better is just plain defeatist. That’s animal thinking, not human.
“The reality is that you’re clinging to a morally adolescent, self-righteous attitude and you paint the world around you – in particular, those espousing conservative ideologies and/or those pointing out the enormous flaws in leftist ideologies – so that it fits that attitude. I did it myself for years. The difference, though, is that I stopped.”
I’m sure you have your reasons for jumping from one ideology to the other, that doesn’t mean it’s the right thing for every different situation. Different people have different needs. You’re happy the way you are, I think the world can be better . . .
Looks like S.ux is a legend in his own mind.
Bilgey Cyber dudes:
You’re right! I’m sorry! What was I thinking? All it took was a day or two on this board to see the error of my ways. I’m too patriotic and not patriotic enough. I should look to other people for validation. I should think the world can be a better place, that there is change possible, change we can believe in. You’re right, I should not give in to the defeatist mentality. I shouldn’t accept the narrow-minded attitudes and information from the media. I’ve been brainwashed! I should be bolder, braver, more committed to the audacity of hope. You’re right. You’re absolutely right. I’m so sorry. And so thankful to you for showing me the way. Go Sarah! Go Mitt! Go Rush. I can’t think of better people to step up and reshape our moral character and bring peace and prosperity to America and to the world. And if it takes a few more flaming children to get there, so be it. I’m willing to sacrifice them. I wasn’t before, but now . . . well . . . who gives a sh*t, am I right boys? Consider me converted. Now I know what you’re thinking . . . did he fire six shots or only five. Well to tell you the truth in all this excitement I can’t remember myself. So you have to ask yourself one question, “Do I feel lucky?” Well do ya, punk?
sambohux:
“I should look to other people for validation.”
You’re already doing that.
Your problem is that you’re not casting as critical an eye on one set of people as you are on the other.
You’ve been programmed to be so hypercritical of the character and agendas of those you swore an oath to obey that you never paid any mind when your political comrades,(who have absolutely NO agenda of their own, naturally), snuck up behind and “pantsed” you.
That’s why you’ve got a nice view of the tips of your dress shoes and a chronically thrusting pain in your ass. (You might want to apply some ointment on that….)
“I shouldn’t accept the narrow-minded attitudes and information from the media.”
You should treat what they put out for you to consume with at least as much suspicion and distrust as you would a pronouncement from the RNC or Fox News.
“You’re right. You’re absolutely right”
Yep…I am.
Look, lad, you were part of a good and noble endeavor, to remove a threat to our nation,(and despite what those folks taking turns standing very close behind you say, Iraq WAS a threat to us…I spent a good chunk of the mid and latter 1990′s in the Persian Gulf and Diego Garcia, supporting the effort to keep Sadaam in his cage. That was mostly an Air Force and Navy show, so you may be forgiven for thinking that we were at “peace”…we were nothing of the sort),and you helped to liberate the Iraqi people from the tyranny of a monster by doing so.
Why can’t you accept that as the fact that it is and be proud of the mission you accomplished?
“And if it takes a few more flaming children to get there, so be it. I’m willing to sacrifice them.”
Is that your “brass tacks” question?
My reply is another question:
Would you rather sacrifice an AMERICAN 5 year old girl?
Or how about that 5 year-old boy today, who might have to show up 15 years down the road and fight in Fallujah all over again?
Would you sacrifice him?
I’m not sure if it’s sunk into your nugget yet,kid, but to me, YOU are that snotnosed, shitty-diapered child of 1990 and 1991, and you’ve had to complete the job that we were not allowed to finish.
What I have to say to you is that I’d have preferred that we have done Sadaam in back then, even if it meant a longer time in Scud Alley for me personally.
I’d have rathered it fall on me than on you.
That’s what sacrifice means, kid.
Will you be able to say the same to the “you” of the future when you’re 10 or 15 years removed from the self-serving certainties that you take such cynical comfort in today?
“… bring peace and prosperity to America and to the world.”
We can only bring peace and prosperity to our own nation, others will have to see to their own well-being. We can show them the way it has worked for us, but that’s ultimately a path that they must trudge on their own account.
“All it took was a day or two on this board to see the error of my ways.”
That’s not as much a jest as you would like to think it is, sport. You’re not that poker-faced. I’ve planted the seeds in your mind, and I don’t think there are many here who don’t recognize that they haven’t been.
I can only give you a course heading back to recovering your honor, but like Iraq and Afghanistan, whether you get there or not is a choice and a commitment that will be entirely yours.
“And so thankful to you for showing me the way.”
Actually, son, it is I who am thankful to you and your gallant fellow soldiers. Y’all took care of some unfinished business of mine.
I don’t want your money, and I don’t want your ass and I’m not running for office, so I don’t want your vote.
All I want is that you take some pride in what you did and show some self-respect for what you were,(and could be again)…and stop being such a damned punk.
Sambo, Clint Eastwood is really not your style. Your style is more suited to Pee Wee Herman. “Bilgey Cyber dudes” who post here are grown men. If your posts are an accurate reflection, you are a boy, and one of the few here who could reasonably be described as a punk.
GEORGE WASHINGTON TO OBAMA: AN AMERICAN JOURNEY
Do we realize how very unique this country really is within the sweep of human history?
http://greensrealworld.blogspot.com/2009/01/only-in-america-morphing-washington-to.html
Typical Republican crap. One only has to read this blog and its comments to see that ODS is real. I used to think that Gov. Palin was stupid, until I happened across the denizens of this site. The conservative morons who post here make Palin look like a Mensa member in comparision.
There has always been a portion of the opposition that have been consumed with paranoia and irrational hate. But in modern times, it was not until President G.W. Bush that it became so ingrained in so much of the mainstream press and elected members of the opposition party. The Dems and left will have nobody to blame but themselves for the backlash that will probably treat President Obama pretty poorly.
That said, I hope we can stick to attacking Obama’s policies. So far they have been so atrocious that there is no need to get personal.
159. Tom
“Punk” accurately describes your post. The KOS kids must have let you out for a few unguarded moments. You are living proof that the same obsessed bedwetters suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome merely grabbed their ankles to become Obama Buttboys.
Dave:
“That said, I hope we can stick to attacking Obama’s policies. So far they have been so atrocious that there is no need to get personal.”
Oh yeah…there WAS a theme to this post wasn’t there?
I was reading the daily newspaper of the city on a bay of the Gulf of Mexico that I happen to be in at the moment, and there was an absolutely wonderful letter to the editor by a woman.
She observed that the order by that fellow who claims to have been born in Hawaii re-establishing Federal aid for foreign organizations that do “family planning and pregnancy counseling” is a mighty strange priority for His Alleged Hawaiianness to take, given the parlous state of our economy.
Folks are losing their jobs and their homes, and the US government is now subsidizing abortions for foreigners.
(I know, I know…Obama claims the money won’t go directly for abortions, but let’s be real here…the funds that these organizations no longer have to spend on “counseling” because of the generosity of our Enlighted One, will be available now to fund abortions.)
Anyhoo, the letter had the pragmatic good sense that only a woman with her head bolted on straight can muster.
And I might add that I can think of nothing else more likely to raise America’s stature in the world and foment goodwill for us among the foreigners than a refrigerated shipping container full of aborted children.
“Made Possible by a Gift of the US Taxpayer.”
I can just see it now, in some ghastly clinic of some third world shit-hole, a woman up in the stirrups, dilated, and as her unborn fetus is Hoovered out of her uterus, she exclaims:
“Thank Obama! God Bless the USA!”
Man…it’s enough to make you want to ululate, ain’t it?
Good news is, we will only have ODS for 4 years – not 8. This guy will NEVER get a second term and thank God – although he will already have done all the damage by then, perhaps the Reps can undo most of it. If Pelosi and Reid don’t screw him up further!!!