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		<title>By: Patrick Poole</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/hamas-supporters-grievance-theater-at-the-army-war-college/#comment-216633</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Poole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, &quot;Former AUC&quot;, I never claimed that I was there, so I&#039;m not sure what your beef is on that point. We only have your word that you were there for the events in question, and based on your proven grossly inaccurate recounting of events, that is severely in doubt. You initially said that Tim Sullivan did not issue a public response; you now admit that he did. You claimed that Sherifa Zuhur didn&#039;t make an appeal on her behalf, but after I posted a link to her appeal here, you now admit that she did. That you have to resort to name calling only demonstrates how your efforts have been an EPIC FAIL. I understand your anger that your martyr to academic freedom has been shown to be nothing but a HAMAS bootlicker. Yeah, how long is their banned list?

You have yet to contradict a single element to my original article, and you have repeatedly shown your grasp of the facts in the matter is entirely lacking. You refused to bother to read the evidence I initially provided and have beclowned yourself in the process. It seems that Sherifa Zuhur is not the only &quot;fifth-rate academic hack&quot;. And now that the USAWC has had enough of her encore grievance-mongering performance originally delivered at AUC, I stand entirely vindicated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, &#8220;Former AUC&#8221;, I never claimed that I was there, so I&#8217;m not sure what your beef is on that point. We only have your word that you were there for the events in question, and based on your proven grossly inaccurate recounting of events, that is severely in doubt. You initially said that Tim Sullivan did not issue a public response; you now admit that he did. You claimed that Sherifa Zuhur didn&#8217;t make an appeal on her behalf, but after I posted a link to her appeal here, you now admit that she did. That you have to resort to name calling only demonstrates how your efforts have been an EPIC FAIL. I understand your anger that your martyr to academic freedom has been shown to be nothing but a HAMAS bootlicker. Yeah, how long is their banned list?</p>
<p>You have yet to contradict a single element to my original article, and you have repeatedly shown your grasp of the facts in the matter is entirely lacking. You refused to bother to read the evidence I initially provided and have beclowned yourself in the process. It seems that Sherifa Zuhur is not the only &#8220;fifth-rate academic hack&#8221;. And now that the USAWC has had enough of her encore grievance-mongering performance originally delivered at AUC, I stand entirely vindicated.</p>
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		<title>By: Former AUC</title>
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		<dc:creator>Former AUC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your &quot;research&quot; on Arabs and Muslims is as shoddy and inaccurate as this message.  How dare you describe Zuhur as a &quot;fifth-rate academic hack.&quot;   Facts:  You were not at AUC in 1999. You choose to attack one of the few people who stood up for academic freedom and for her colleagues rights to teach out of texts that support liberalism, democracy, concern Islam (but weren&#039;t necessarily written by Muslims) -- books on Egypt&#039;s black-list.  Because you weren&#039;t there and want so desperately to slander Dr. Zuhur - you dig out a supposed story from the past based solely on Internet materials that can&#039;t be understood out of context.   (Other AUC faculty complaints were cited in a Chronicle of Higher Education report).  Why?  Because you want to punish Dr. Zuhur for the supposed crime of writing ABOUT Hamas.  
The list-serve message was NOT the appeal circulated by AUC graduate students - that was written by Dr. Hale.  The message was (if you can read, it seems you can&#039;t) in response to many top-ranked academics all over the world who wrote in on her behalf.  Tim Sullivan&#039;s response on the AUC email system (funny you should find that) was NOT the College&#039;s official response - that came out by their PR department.  You have lousy research skills, Patrick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your &#8220;research&#8221; on Arabs and Muslims is as shoddy and inaccurate as this message.  How dare you describe Zuhur as a &#8220;fifth-rate academic hack.&#8221;   Facts:  You were not at AUC in 1999. You choose to attack one of the few people who stood up for academic freedom and for her colleagues rights to teach out of texts that support liberalism, democracy, concern Islam (but weren&#8217;t necessarily written by Muslims) &#8212; books on Egypt&#8217;s black-list.  Because you weren&#8217;t there and want so desperately to slander Dr. Zuhur &#8211; you dig out a supposed story from the past based solely on Internet materials that can&#8217;t be understood out of context.   (Other AUC faculty complaints were cited in a Chronicle of Higher Education report).  Why?  Because you want to punish Dr. Zuhur for the supposed crime of writing ABOUT Hamas.<br />
The list-serve message was NOT the appeal circulated by AUC graduate students &#8211; that was written by Dr. Hale.  The message was (if you can read, it seems you can&#8217;t) in response to many top-ranked academics all over the world who wrote in on her behalf.  Tim Sullivan&#8217;s response on the AUC email system (funny you should find that) was NOT the College&#8217;s official response &#8211; that came out by their PR department.  You have lousy research skills, Patrick.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Poole</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/hamas-supporters-grievance-theater-at-the-army-war-college/#comment-208896</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Poole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 12:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Former AUC, once again it is you who is factually challenged. The post you claim was sent out by Zuhur&#039;s students is in fact written in first person, signed by Zuhur herself, and sent from her email account (see first link in my previous comment). You fail to acknowledge that you were wrong in your previous post when you claimed that AUC provost Tim Sullivan didn&#039;t issue a public response to Zuhur&#039;s baseless claims (which were rejected by the EEOC). That&#039;s three strikes to your credibility.

So how is it that you claim that you were there, and yet be so ignorant about the facts of the matter? And how is it that I have a better grasp of the facts while you continue to beclown yourself in blind defense of grievance-monger Zuhur?

The simple fact of the matter is that Sherifa Zuhur is a fifth-rate academic hack that by her own admission has been chased out of every respectable academic institution that she has been affiliated with (AUC, UC-Berkeley, USAWC). I suspect that&#039;s also why you are also &quot;Former&quot; AUC as well. You hacks have to stick together. And with Zuhur&#039;s recent monograph she has come out in defense of a murderous terrorist organization. I will continue to criticize and expose terrorist bootlickers regardless of their race or religion. On that count I&#039;m an equal opportunity critic. You might want to ponder the fact that YOU are the one who wants to make this about race or religion and keeps injecting it into these discussions. Clearly you have your own racist and bigoted issues to deal with. 

You&#039;ve posted here twice and been proven wrong both times. Time to give it up. And again, at least I have the courage to post my criticisms openly and in my own name. It is telling that you will only defend Sherifa Zuhur when you do it anonymously. Considering your factually-challenged performance here, I can understand why you wouldn&#039;t want to do it in your own name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Former AUC, once again it is you who is factually challenged. The post you claim was sent out by Zuhur&#8217;s students is in fact written in first person, signed by Zuhur herself, and sent from her email account (see first link in my previous comment). You fail to acknowledge that you were wrong in your previous post when you claimed that AUC provost Tim Sullivan didn&#8217;t issue a public response to Zuhur&#8217;s baseless claims (which were rejected by the EEOC). That&#8217;s three strikes to your credibility.</p>
<p>So how is it that you claim that you were there, and yet be so ignorant about the facts of the matter? And how is it that I have a better grasp of the facts while you continue to beclown yourself in blind defense of grievance-monger Zuhur?</p>
<p>The simple fact of the matter is that Sherifa Zuhur is a fifth-rate academic hack that by her own admission has been chased out of every respectable academic institution that she has been affiliated with (AUC, UC-Berkeley, USAWC). I suspect that&#8217;s also why you are also &#8220;Former&#8221; AUC as well. You hacks have to stick together. And with Zuhur&#8217;s recent monograph she has come out in defense of a murderous terrorist organization. I will continue to criticize and expose terrorist bootlickers regardless of their race or religion. On that count I&#8217;m an equal opportunity critic. You might want to ponder the fact that YOU are the one who wants to make this about race or religion and keeps injecting it into these discussions. Clearly you have your own racist and bigoted issues to deal with. </p>
<p>You&#8217;ve posted here twice and been proven wrong both times. Time to give it up. And again, at least I have the courage to post my criticisms openly and in my own name. It is telling that you will only defend Sherifa Zuhur when you do it anonymously. Considering your factually-challenged performance here, I can understand why you wouldn&#8217;t want to do it in your own name.</p>
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		<title>By: Former AUC</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/hamas-supporters-grievance-theater-at-the-army-war-college/#comment-208617</link>
		<dc:creator>Former AUC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick Poole, you like Dan Pipes and Horowitz are guilty of very POOR research and linguistic tricks.  The post you dug up was not sent out by Dr. Zuhur but her graduate students. 

AUC is totally unlike USAWC. And you have never stopped critiquing and criticizng Arabs or Muslims -- that appears to be your career.

In your stupidity and zeal to Arab-bash, you are attacking one of a small minority of democracy-defenders and a person who really did uphold academic freedom.  

You had to be there.  And you weren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick Poole, you like Dan Pipes and Horowitz are guilty of very POOR research and linguistic tricks.  The post you dug up was not sent out by Dr. Zuhur but her graduate students. </p>
<p>AUC is totally unlike USAWC. And you have never stopped critiquing and criticizng Arabs or Muslims &#8212; that appears to be your career.</p>
<p>In your stupidity and zeal to Arab-bash, you are attacking one of a small minority of democracy-defenders and a person who really did uphold academic freedom.  </p>
<p>You had to be there.  And you weren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Poole</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/hamas-supporters-grievance-theater-at-the-army-war-college/#comment-204748</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Poole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 09:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Former AUC, it is you who have your facts wrong. 

You state: &quot;Zuhur never made an appeal on her own behalf.&quot;

Um, how about this: http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0005&amp;L=ARABIC-INFO&amp;P=R1480&amp;D=0&amp;I=-3

Again: &quot;Tim Sullivan never issued a “response” - the College’s PR department did.&quot;

Duh: http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0006&amp;L=ARABIC-INFO&amp;P=R25&amp;D=0&amp;I=-3

See the second part of the post:

&quot;To the AUC Community:
From:  Tim Sullivan&quot;

How about doing some fact-checking of your own? But thank you for making my point once again that the academic climate at places like AUC and the USAWC have deteriorated so far that one cannot critique and criticize without being labeled a racist or whatever-phobe-of-the-day. It is people like yourself and Sherifa Zuhur&#039;s identity grievance-mongering that has brought academia to this place. 

Oh, and at least I have the courage to put my name to what I write, &quot;Former AUC&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Former AUC, it is you who have your facts wrong. </p>
<p>You state: &#8220;Zuhur never made an appeal on her own behalf.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, how about this: <a href="http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0005&#038;L=ARABIC-INFO&#038;P=R1480&#038;D=0&#038;I=-3" rel="nofollow">http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0005&#038;L=ARABIC-INFO&#038;P=R1480&#038;D=0&#038;I=-3</a></p>
<p>Again: &#8220;Tim Sullivan never issued a “response” &#8211; the College’s PR department did.&#8221;</p>
<p>Duh: <a href="http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0006&#038;L=ARABIC-INFO&#038;P=R25&#038;D=0&#038;I=-3" rel="nofollow">http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0006&#038;L=ARABIC-INFO&#038;P=R25&#038;D=0&#038;I=-3</a></p>
<p>See the second part of the post:</p>
<p>&#8220;To the AUC Community:<br />
From:  Tim Sullivan&#8221;</p>
<p>How about doing some fact-checking of your own? But thank you for making my point once again that the academic climate at places like AUC and the USAWC have deteriorated so far that one cannot critique and criticize without being labeled a racist or whatever-phobe-of-the-day. It is people like yourself and Sherifa Zuhur&#8217;s identity grievance-mongering that has brought academia to this place. </p>
<p>Oh, and at least I have the courage to put my name to what I write, &#8220;Former AUC&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Former AUC</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/hamas-supporters-grievance-theater-at-the-army-war-college/#comment-204485</link>
		<dc:creator>Former AUC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 19:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Patrick, why do you constantly attack educated Muslims who are in fact, moderates and who play an important role in the U.S.?  

Your post about Zuhur and AUC is all wrong.  You don&#039;t do any real research, apparently you take whatever is in print as the truth, without fact-checking.  

Here&#039;s what you wrote &quot; A few days later, Zuhur made an open appeal for others to send letters to the AUC president, provost, the committee on academic freedom, and the board of trustees pleading her case. She also solicited signatures for a petition demanding her reinstatement.

Having flooded the academic community with her side of the story, AUC provost Tim Sullivan issued a response providing a very different set of facts.&quot;  NOT HOW IT HAPPENED, I WAS THERE.  Zuhur never made an appeal on her own behalf.  Some students organized a petition, and Hale circulated a petition because Zuhur had in the prior year, organized support for Samia Mehrez (these are not your Islamist enemies!) 

Tim Sullivan never issued a &quot;response&quot; - the College&#039;s PR department did.  

Other professors were much more quietly terminated, or denied tenure, or gotten rid of - what makes them better educators?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patrick, why do you constantly attack educated Muslims who are in fact, moderates and who play an important role in the U.S.?  </p>
<p>Your post about Zuhur and AUC is all wrong.  You don&#8217;t do any real research, apparently you take whatever is in print as the truth, without fact-checking.  </p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what you wrote &#8221; A few days later, Zuhur made an open appeal for others to send letters to the AUC president, provost, the committee on academic freedom, and the board of trustees pleading her case. She also solicited signatures for a petition demanding her reinstatement.</p>
<p>Having flooded the academic community with her side of the story, AUC provost Tim Sullivan issued a response providing a very different set of facts.&#8221;  NOT HOW IT HAPPENED, I WAS THERE.  Zuhur never made an appeal on her own behalf.  Some students organized a petition, and Hale circulated a petition because Zuhur had in the prior year, organized support for Samia Mehrez (these are not your Islamist enemies!) </p>
<p>Tim Sullivan never issued a &#8220;response&#8221; &#8211; the College&#8217;s PR department did.  </p>
<p>Other professors were much more quietly terminated, or denied tenure, or gotten rid of &#8211; what makes them better educators?</p>
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		<title>By: KAtazhukin</title>
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		<dc:creator>KAtazhukin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s obvious from this woman&#039;s response she can&#039;t see herself as anything other than a victim, which is par for the feminist/Arab mentality.

Having said that here&#039;s hoping that the War College continues to fight the good fight against becoming an insular, close minded bureaucracy like the rest of the world&#039;s institutions of &quot;higher learning&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s obvious from this woman&#8217;s response she can&#8217;t see herself as anything other than a victim, which is par for the feminist/Arab mentality.</p>
<p>Having said that here&#8217;s hoping that the War College continues to fight the good fight against becoming an insular, close minded bureaucracy like the rest of the world&#8217;s institutions of &#8220;higher learning&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar the Grump</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oscar the Grump</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frog
rivet, rivet, rivet!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frog<br />
rivet, rivet, rivet!</p>
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		<title>By: Frog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the poster writing as Sherifa Zuhur,

Would you care to explain how and why you insist on staying in a place that oppresses and humiliates you as a woman, a Moslem, and a scholar?

It sounds like a battered woman who won&#039;t leave home and refuse divorce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the poster writing as Sherifa Zuhur,</p>
<p>Would you care to explain how and why you insist on staying in a place that oppresses and humiliates you as a woman, a Moslem, and a scholar?</p>
<p>It sounds like a battered woman who won&#8217;t leave home and refuse divorce.</p>
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		<title>By: fred</title>
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		<dc:creator>fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 14:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See Raymond Ibrahim&#039;s two threads (War and Peace - and Deceit - In Islam, Parts I and II) on PJM.  The deception campaign in the West is far advanced and the intellectual sloth and pride of our political and policy elites is staggering.  This is why I am convinced that Western Civilization is in full suicide mode.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See Raymond Ibrahim&#8217;s two threads (War and Peace &#8211; and Deceit &#8211; In Islam, Parts I and II) on PJM.  The deception campaign in the West is far advanced and the intellectual sloth and pride of our political and policy elites is staggering.  This is why I am convinced that Western Civilization is in full suicide mode.</p>
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