Comments on: Hacker Releases Data Implicating CRU in Global Warming Fraud (Updated)

By: Canbyte

Canbyte — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 23:11:14 +0000

Worst part is losing our democracy as stipulated in Clause 38 of treaty – IPCC (UN)’s ‘COP’ to rule your gov’t. = Taxation without Representation. Check it out and protest.

http://canbyte.newsvine.com/_news/2009/11/28/3559804-cooking-the-frog-slowly-

By: eric

eric — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 19:55:18 +0000

Whether Global Warming is actually occurring is only
half the picture. Where’s the proof that man is
responsible? The Earth has been around for billions
of years, with lots of extreme climate changes before
man arrived. What conceit to believe that any
change must be our own doing, and without evidence.

By: Danram

Danram — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:50:12 +0000

The e-mails themselves are damning enough, but they won’t by themselves be what kills the AGW movement. What will kill AGW as a driver of public policy is the other 95% of the files from the CRU that were uploaded onto that Russian server.

That other 95% contains data sets, programming code, and comments from the scientists and statisticians working with them. Now that outside experts are having the chance to delve into them, what they’re discovering is that they’re garbage. The data is incomplete and corrupted, the programming code is full of bugs, and the predictive models are flawed with poor predictive power. It’s no wonder that the guys at the CRU have resisted making their work public for so long. They knew full well that if the general public was ever allowed to see it, the case for AGW would collapse, along with their funding and their reputations.

Truth be told, this was never about science. This was always about ideology, power, and the forced re-allocation of trillions of dollars worth of the world’s resources at the direction of the political left.

By: Dennis Weston

Dennis Weston — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:59:24 +0000

Bernie Madoff and Al Gore. Same Crime.

By: Dave Surls

Dave Surls — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:34:29 +0000

“I think you need to review the Jean S. post at Climate Audit (Mike’s Nature trick), which puts this email squarely in context.”

The context appears to be that there is data which shows that atmospheric temperatures are NOT rising, and they’re trying to suppress that data, as much as they can, because that conflicts with the conclusion that they’ve already reached…and they don’t like the idea of people arguing with their conclusion.

Now, maybe that’s not the way it is. Things aren’t always as they appear…but, it sure looks that way.

By: Paul -Indiana

Paul -Indiana — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:30:48 +0000

By: Dave Surls

Dave Surls — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 02:18:56 +0000

“Whistleblowers are: 1) required to go to the authorities, not the internet; and 2) must be in the organization. Therefore, I doubt this hacker is a whistleblower and likely broke the law.”

All UAE records of any sort must be made available if requested.

“5 key facts that all staff should know about Freedom of Information”

“The Act gives everyone both in and outside UEA a right of access to ANY recorded information held by UEA…”

“…As all documents and emails could potentially be released under the Act, you should ensure that those you create are clear and professional”

http://www.uea.ac.uk/is/foi/guidance

By: Tom Perkins

Tom Perkins — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 13:44:47 +0000

@132

If you are blowing the whistle you are a whistleblower. IOW, what 133 said.

By: Robert

Robert — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:15:51 +0000

I’ve always been middle of the road when it came to questions about global warming. Not to keen on the notion that it’s entirely man-made, but not stupid enough to think that we’ve never ever had even the slightest affect on climate. Let the scientists sort it all out, I’d say, and then let the engineers figure out solutions (being libertarian, I feel the State is an answer to a question best never asked).

This absolutely shakes my trust in science. Again, I’m not stupid and I know there are hundreds of reasons scientists pursue their fields and that debate is far from dispassionate, but this? This outright corruption? Sonsabitches! Garbage like this and we’ve all been set back who knows how many years. How much money, how much human capital, how much time has been wasted on perpetuating an outright fraud? Money wasted, regulations and laws created never to be repealed, jobs destroyed and all for what?

Heads need to roll and fast.

By: Thomas Holsinger

Thomas Holsinger — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:32:24 +0000

Mr. Thornton,

This looks very much like either an inside job, or it was done with the assistance of one or more people in signficant capacities inside CRU.