‘Gunwalker’ Requires Special Counsel Investigation
“Gunwalker” never should have happened.
We’ve spent the better part of a week here at PJ Media documenting the damning evidence of a reckless government that has conspired to allow gun runners to smuggle an estimated 2,000 weapons across the Mexican border to violent drug cartels.
During that time, we’ve discovered that the president and Democratic lawmakers have lied, and continue to lie, about the role of American guns and American small businessmen in arming drug cartels south of the border. We’ve watched as they’ve lied, and continue to lie, blaming gun shops for the carnage that has resulted from the depravity of Mexican narco-terrorists.
We’ve watched as ATF special agents and supervisors testified in front of Congress, angry and ashamed, about how the multi-agency task force they were a part of was responsible for arming the cartel gunmen that have killed scores of law enforcement officers and civilians in two countries.
This scandal must come to an end not with graceful and fault-free resignations, but with deliberate and careful prosecutions of those responsible.
There were four federal agencies involved in Gunwalker, including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), the Department of Justice (DOJ), the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Each of these agencies deserves dishonor and a thorough post-mortem review from their own respective inspectors general. But that is simply a start towards righting an unconscionable wrong.
Operation Fast and Furious was kept a secret not only from the American public, but from Mexican authorities, who bore the brunt of the casualties from the 2,000 weapons smuggled into cartel hands.
Yet the operation was so high-profile inside the executive branch that the acting director of one of the agencies, Kenneth Melson (ATF), watched raw covert surveillance of strawmen purchases himself, as revealed by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform last week.
This was not a normal operation.
Emerging evidence suggests that at least two cabinet-level officials, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and Department of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano, were at least aware of the operation and took no actions to stop it.
The tactical steps taken in this operation — allowing obvious straw buyers to purchase thousands of firearms and deliver them to the cartels without attempting interdiction — is so radical that nothing comparable can be found in the history of American law enforcement.
No legitimate law enforcement operation arms criminals, and yet Fast and Furious saw the ATF, DOJ, DHS, and IRS colluding to do precisely that.
In an earlier post we made an explosive allegation. We asserted that this plot to arm Mexican narco-terrorists was issued from the very top of the executive branch, and that these federal agencies were attempting to fulfill Barack Obama’s goal of trying to enact gun control measures “under the radar,” as the president said to proponents of gun control earlier this year.
What did the President know, and when did he know it?
Depends on what the definition of “know” is.
It doesn’t matter! To gs and all the other respondents, my fear is that this will go nowhere. (Ironic, huh? “Gunwalker” will not grow legs!)
Look, I REALLY don’t want to get off on a rant here. But if the House tries to prosecute this – even with an equal number of Democrats on the committee – we will end up with an even more divided country, all along ideological lines. (Read, aitch supporters!) If it goes to a Special Prosecutor, it will, by necessity, segue into other areas and at the very least APPEAR to be political posturing.
Remember “Whitewatergate?” It started out as a simple scam over a trailer park called Castle Grande. Very quickly it conflated into the Arkansas Governor (Tucker) resigning, the Starr council uncovering other raw dealings, dead bodies lying around the WH, Lewinski, Paula Jones, Kathleen Willey, stained dresses, impeachments, “Vast Right Wing Conspiracies” and myriad other trails of blood. Ultimately, the Repubs took it on the chin and lost control of Congress.
The problem is not that the POTUS can stall, hinder (Separation of Powers”) and politicize even the most sincere investigation. The negatives are two-fold.
First, these things tend to take on a life of their own. More and more misdealing on both sides get uncovered and can’t be ignored. Then the fun begins with the “other side” b!tching that “this was outside the scope of the investigation!”
The second and most critical issue is that the American public has a short attention span. They will quickly tire of it and be p!ssed off that it’s pre-empting “Dancing with the Stars.” I guarantee you aitch is aware of that. He will hunker down and ride out this storm. Unless, of course, it just won’t go away. Of course, given the loyalty of the MSM, it most likely will.
So what will we have? A nation at each other’s throats and a government preoccupied with getting the other side out of office (Or keeping themselves IN!) – all during a time when America is already falling apart!
I HATE saying this! I WANT justice over this inconceivable crime. But history, barely a decade old, shows that there is nowhere to go with this. It’s best that we leave it up to people like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Bill O’Reilly and the blogsphere. They can raise enough hell to cause some mid-level flunkies to fall on their swords, give the Repubs more talking points for the aught-12 election, put a stop to any future gunrunning and deflate aitch’s plan to use this as an excuse to use White-Out on the Second Amendment.
And, my friends, I fear that is the best we can hope to get out of this deal.
Of course, that’s just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Say, Ghost, your name in the real world wouldn’t be Mitt Romney would it?
“I HATE saying this! I WANT justice over this inconceivable crime. But history, barely a decade old, shows that there is nowhere to go with this.”
This “argument” of yours could also be used to let Obamacare go untouched, let the government decide that green energy be made our central industrial priority, let government stop or seriously constrain all other forms of energy now in use, and all the other Obama abominations that need to be destroyed or curtailed. This argument of yours is nothing but “go along to get along,” now isn’t that right?
Easy, Fred. Perhaps you need to re-read my post. Better yet, I’ll type this response reeeel slow because it seems you can’t read very fast. First, it’s hardly likely Mitt Romney – whom I suspect couldn’t hold a serious conversation with Michelle Bachmann – would invoke the names of Rush, Sean or O’Reilly. So, that should answer that part.
My “argument” is actually just my opinion. (Much, I guess, is yours.) The difference would be that recent history pretty much bears out what I said. Ds tried to impeach Reagan so Rs tried to impeach Clinton so Ds tried to impeach Bush43 so Rs want to impeach aitch. Can you say, “Blowback?” It NEVER bodes well for the attacking party. Each group that tried it ended up losing elections.
Plus, as a friend (And fellow conservative, BION!) pointed out, the Republicans have a history of tripping all over themselves by “playing fair” while the LameStream Media backs the Dems who, in turn, play for keeps.
We can back and forth all day. But, you really need to visit the real world. Nor do I want to continue the hyperbole. Facts are facts. We are going to get into a major dust-up over this despite what “Rocker” said above about only PJM reporting on it. FoxNews has been all over it the past few days. And it’s going to hurt the Republicans’ chances next year.
Finally, I don’t know how you managed to segue a simple observation about historically devistating partisan politics into ME wanting aitchCa – excuse me – ObamaCare, green energy (*I* drive a Crown Victoria – a LOT!) or any other “go along, get along” insanity.
I’m just being realistic. (Shrug) Try it sometime. It might help you learn to cope with life.
Ghost: “Ds tried to impeach Reagan so Rs tried to impeach Clinton so Ds tried to impeach Bush43 so Rs want to impeach aitch.”
Repubs didn’t try to impeach Clinton, Ghost. They DID impeach him. But after every Dem in the Senate signed a vow that they would be impartial, what a surprise…they all voted Clinton Not Guilty. What was he not guilty of? Perjury! A lawyer and a President committed perjury (he was in fact disbarred because of this). What was the reason he was impeached? Because the Dems tried to impeach Reagan…Hell no. Because Clinton committed perjury in office, a high crime and misdemeanor.
And for the reader’s reading pleasure a list of insults that have no value in disputing what I said:
(1) “Perhaps you need to re-read my post. Better yet, I’ll type this response reeeel slow because it seems you can’t read very fast.”
(2) “But, you really need to visit the real world.”
(3) “I’m just being realistic. (Shrug) Try it sometime. It might help you learn to cope with life.”
I just want to throw this in the mix….
Think about how much mainstream media coverage there was linking (by name!) Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld to the particulars of the Abu Graheb underpants party…
A low-end, minor hazing event, carried out by a handfull of numb-skulls, in which no one was killed, maimed, tortured or harmed in any real way….
Yet the immediate and persistant media speculation night after night was, “how much responsibility does the President bear”
Compare THAT with this fiasco, in which we have FATAL US casualties, and untold deaths and mayhem on our neighboring counties law enforcement and civilian populations….
And all I hear now are CRICKETS CHIRPING from the media.
I am against special prosecutors in principal because they alway end up abusing their power. Since Gunwalker allowed weapons to be smuggled to Mexico and have resulted in the murder of Mexican civilians I would prefer that the committee’s evidence be turned over to the Mexican government so they can file charges domesticly. Eric Holder will eventually lose sovereign immunity when he leaves his post. At that point he can be extradited to Mexico for trial.Don’t discount Mexico’s willingness to press charges. There is an election next year and no Mexican politician ever loss votes by going after Los Gringos.
As if the corrupt Mexican government would — or could — do anything about a corrupt American government.
Either Americans enforce our laws, or we may as well admit we no longer have a nation worth defending.
So true.
…”Since Gunwalker allowed weapons to be smuggled to Mexico and have resulted in the murder of Mexican civilians I would prefer that the committee’s evidence be turned over to the Mexican government so they can file charges domesticly…”
Are you joking? On any given day the corruption in – and by US standards INCOMPETENCE as well – the Mexican Judicary rivals that of it’s police and military forces. A big part of the problem restricting Mexican Press coverage is not only the fear reporters and editors have that they or their families face brutal execution from the Cartels, but they also fear false imprisonment from these cesspools pretending to dispense justice.
Their conviction rate is on par with our immigration courts – which means its Kangeroo from top to bottom.
While the US Chamber of Commerce, along with Napolitano, Holder and Hillary Clinton in the State Department want the focus on trade/business interests, the confluence of long simmering immigration issues along with the undeniable worsening of the Mexican civil disorder has presented Obama and his crew with a very dangerous political situation in a charged atmosphere largely of their own making.
I don’t believe Issa is going to call for a Special Prosecutor, but not for the idiotic reasons #2 tdiinva suggests. Nor should he have to in order to challenge Holders assertion that he’s co-operating with an in-house investigation.
First off, everyone on both sides fo the isle are pretty well fed up with the Special Prosecutor statute; for the past twenty years it hasn’t lived up to the hope or the hype. It just hasn’t served it’s purpose of weeding out corruption and adjudicating justice.
Congress has everything needed at it’s disposal; Issa can orchestrate through his own committee. Besides subpoena power he can, if talented enough, enlist other chairs from other committees.
A second reason not to go the way of the Speical Prosecutor is that over the years its usage has prompted defensive strategies not the least of which is stalling and prolonging investigations for months if not years.
Besides taking this past the 2012 elections, you would lose the public effect that congressional investigations provide in the age of C-Span. It’s part of why you never heard Democrats call for a SP when they were cruicifying Alberto Gonzalez and Bush claiming that the DOJ had been ‘poilitizied’ over immigration policy promting the infamous firings.
I have every faith in Darell Issa being capable to follow this through in the right manner. Watching him slice and dice the ranking memeber – Baltimore Dem Cunningham – as well as adroit interrogation of Holder (Who like his boss seems to have a very arrogant view of what being sworn before testimony means -when your the Prez or AG) only inspires that confidence all the more.
As for the Mexican government? They have enjoned with numerous other central and south American countries to sue us in Arizona – maily because the remittences their illegals working here send home amount to important revenue badly needed.
AS for the trade argument – Mexico is Arizona’s biggest trading partner by far -no other country even comes remotely close. However trade is always about a two way street, and they need it as bad as we do,no matter what they say.
The Chamber of Commerce is full of dung heap – all their involement is like the others – be it the ACLU or Southern Poverty folk or the La Raza crowd and the allies in congress. They want legal access to continued migration unabaited.
Gunnrunner is at the heart of a convergence of all these political and economic issues. Allowing it to get shunted off to a Special Prosecutor is almost as bad a surrender as allowing Holder to go his merry way whitewashing it in house.
I don’t think that Congress has the will – the guts – or the capacity to do its job, despite the efforts of some members and probably some staff members. Even if it did, the legacy media would attack it the way they did Rep. King’s hearings.
I hear your arguments about the special council law, but it is Constitutional and effective, despite its flaws and widespread negative opinion. Get an experienced, strong prosecutor to dig, provide sufficient resources, and see what he or she finds.
“…a process that an innocent executive branch would welcome to clear its name.”
Well, that rules out THIS administration.
I don’t think they feel any need to ‘clear their name”. As far as I can tell, this important story basically only exists on the pages of PajamasMedia.com. Everybody else is all but ignoring it. So if readers of PJM.com are the only people who know/care about this, it doesn’t matter to the administration. They know we already had their number long before this story broke.
It is not just Pajamas’ readers who are following this story.
There are a growing number of gun owners, libertarians and other outraged citizens who have come to see this scandal for the monumental violation of law that it is. It also connects directly to the U.S. failed war on drugs.
This debacle known as Project Gun-walker/Operation Fast & Furious speaks directly to the legitimacy of government in general and this administration in particular.
Hey, let’s not forget, it was actually CBS News (!) that first broke the story back in late February. They were on it even before FOX was. This is really amazing to me. I don’t trust CBS in general — but when you go through the whole timeline, it’s impressive how much reportage CBS has done on this story.
I think we’re getting very close to a “breakthrough” point or “tipping point” on this story. People have to hear about something numerous times before it finally really registers on their consciousness. Then when it does, they think, “Oh my gosh, how did I miss THIS?!” I think that the mass “aha!” moment is going to happen soon.
Office of Special Counsel definitely needs to pull the trigger on this debacle. The DOJ has been flagrantly stonewalling the Constitutional process of Congressional oversight, by refusing to respond to Congressional subpoenas, and by lying to Congress.
ATF Director Melson is a Bush era appointee. Probably the only reason he’s still there is that he knows too much. A Special Prosecutor would have much more power to get into the concealed evidence, plus the little rats would start squealing to save their skins, rolling over on the big rats.
AG Holder appears to have repeatedly violated the laws and Constitutional duties of his office. He could also easily be impeached by the Republican House, and the impeachment prosecutor would also have broad investigative powers, at least until Holder resigns.
Not only is this the right thing to do, it could turn out to be politically explosive, and beneficial in the effort to get rid of Obama.
My understanding is that only the AG of the US can appoint an Independent Counsel. Fat chance of that.
Found this…
The Independent Counsel provision of the Ethics Act expired in 1992, but new Independent Counsel legislation was passed in 1994. This law expired in 1999 and was not renewed. The Attorney General of the United States now has sole discretion to appoint an outside prosecutor.
Special investigators are loose cannons and have had poor results. Congress needs to man up and do a big=time investigation like the Watergate hearings.
A president who skirts the legislature and attempts to rule by decree is the inevitable result of a long incremental expansion of executive power. Gunwalker is the worst incarnation of it, thus far. If we dont rein in the executive more and worse instances of abuse of power are to come.
We need to hit the reset button on the government as a whole.
The idea of Holder being extradited to Mexico and subsequently serving time in a Mexican prison is very…satisfying.
Perhaps we have an international agreement to create anti-gun legislation. Those two at the top are much too frendly about border incursions.
Excellent work, Bob Owens.
I’m skeptical of the suggestion this was all a plot to justify stricter gun controls. That sounds awfully Machiavellian and, quite honestly, I don’t think this crowd is bright enough for that. More significantly, there’s a precedent for this sort of criminal stupidity, and it crosses administrations.
I’m speaking of the decision decades ago to monitor the A Q Kahn nuclear smuggling operation rather than shut it down when intelligence agencies became aware of it. They allowed it to continue, to expand into more countries while they watched. They allowed allegedly compromised equipment to be shipped and installed, but much of that equipment still worked, albeit sub-optimally. They allowed highly sensitive component designs to pass. (All this is described in Collins and Frantz’ “Fallout”.)
No one stopped to consider whether letting this all go on was a good idea or not. Pakistan in the end got the bomb, Libya almost got it, the North Korean project advanced, as did those in Syria and Iran. The US could have picked up Kahn many times over the years; instead, he lives the life of a national hero in Pakistan – and a wealthy one no doubt.
No one in the US has ever been held accountable for such negligence and flawed judgment. In the current case, however, it’s become a public issue, so one can hope.
Two weapons that had walked across the border turned up at the murder site of a US law enforcement guy.
Certainly that would afford obama and holder the opportunity to use that murder as justification for tightening gun control laws.
That’s no coincidence.
The only reason this dirty scheme didn’t work was because of American agents on the ground who stood against it.
Impeach.
G-d save us from special prosecutors. They are nearly always irresponsible or irresponsibly used.
If only we had a media that would ask one simple question of Holder, Napolitano, Obama…”What was the objective/purpose of Operation Gunrunner?”
Hundreds of Mexican men, women and children have died because of Gunwalker. But the ATF agents involved in it didn’t blow the whistle until border agent Brian Terry was gunned down. Before that incident took place, they were perfectly willing to participate in this diabolical scheme to force public opinion toward gun control. I have no respect for these agents. Why didn’t they grow a conscience and come forward much earlier? Think of all the lives they could have saved.
They tried, and were threatened with losing their jobs if they didn’t shut up. Should they have gone public anyway? Sure. But volunteering to be a martyr is not an easy thing to do.
One thing I would like to add is the committee that Issa chairs was in Democratic hands at the time most of this was going on. I don’t remember who the Democratic chair was but I know he is still on the commettee now and spoke against these hearings. It would not have done the agents any good to go public at that time.
waxman. and too busy with partisan baloney and baseball steroids to notice anything ever that might be crime on the left –other than it might need coverup and whitewash, in which cases he wass very energetic with the Kangaroo Court hearings.
Perhaps….but tens, if not hundreds of thousands of Mexican citizens have died because of the corrupt Mexican government not allowing their OWN citizens to defend themselves…. Gunwalker only worked because of that.
At any rate, Holder, Napolitano and Obama have a LOT of explaining to do….
“At any rate, Holder, Napolitano and Obama have a LOT of explaining to do….”
Nope if it can be proved they knew anything about this crime while it was in process or that they were directing any part of it then they all every last top brass in every Department….ALL of them loose their jobs and freedom as accessory to murder end of subject their actions directly caused a US border patrol agent to die. Also pensions and government health care gone for good and their families get ZERO out of it.
Anything less will be subversion of justice.
“Anything less will be subversion of justice”
In other words standard operating procedure for this administration.
Does the OSC have statutory authority to investigate the elements of this affair. The four acts the OSC cites for its existence and authority would seem to limit this to actions taken which affect the whistle-blowers directly.
Is it too early to wish to see those that over-saw this highly illegal program frog marched before the cameras on their way to jail? You know, like Rove, but different because, they actually broke the law & violated a sovereign country’s borders in act that might be described as war like. Is there any other definition of a governmental department or agency (or agencies) that willing supplies or allows illegal shipment of arms?
C’mon, Jessica, really! They’re only Mexicans.
As to the Lady or Gentleman that does not think this crowd machiavellian enough I submit: “Never let a crisis go to waste.”
If it gets too hot for Obama, he will just fire him anyways. So there is no way to get an unbiased report while Obama is president. This should wait til he is out of office, and then let the jail time begin.
Is Operation Fast and Furious Obama’s Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment?
I know this is about law enforcement, but stick with me.
“The tactical steps taken in this operation — allowing obvious straw buyers to purchase thousands of firearms and deliver them to the cartels without attempting interdiction — is so radical that nothing comparable can be found in the history of American law enforcement.”
Let me show you how by changing a few words:
The tactical steps taken in this operation – allowing obvious syphilis infected men to go out into the community and spread the disease without attempting interdiction – is so radical that nothing comparable can be found in the history of the American Public Health Service.
What is the ethical difference?
I would even bet that Dr. John Heller, Director of the Public Health Service Division of Venereal Diseases may have something like, ” you have to break some eggs to make an omelet.”
Ethical? Huh?
“In an earlier post we made an explosive allegation. We asserted that this plot to arm Mexican narco-terrorists was issued from the very top of the executive branch, and that these federal agencies were attempting to fulfill Barack Obama’s goal of trying enact gun control measures “under the radar,” as the president said to proponents of gun control earlier this year.”
It isnt explosive. It is plain to see on the surface for anyone with half a wit that that is exactly what happened. I have looked at lots of blogs and opinion forums over the whole political spectrum and that is exactly what everyone is saying.
Interestingly, Daily Beast readers were outraged and opined the same sentiment as the readers here, only to be wiped off the board 12 hrs later and replaced with drivel supporting the batf and attacking the second amendment.
To argue for the second amendment is to argue for self-defense, against a tyrannical government or against criminals.
To argue against the second amendment is to argue against self-defense, to demean the value of the individual and of life. Life (someone else’s) , meaning nothing to them, was a small price to pay to achieve their agenda. They created a crisis for the sake of gun-control, and the bloodier and deadlier it was, the better it served their purpose. For this bunch, the end always justifies the end, and the end is always more power for them.
Hanging is too good for them.
oops….end justifies the means
This is a pure case of planting evidence to advance future regulations and controls of the 2nd amendment….Chicago style…Despicable regime, this…
There is a cancer growing on this administration.
This administration IS a cancer.
Another angle on what Holder is trying to do:
http://www.bing.com/search?q=mexico+election+communist+political+violence&go=&qs=n&sk=&form=QBRE
You have to ask yourself, if this administration is willing to do something like this (Gunwalker), what won’t they do?
I view this as a Reichstag type event. It makes you wonder about the Gulf Oil Disaster doesn’t it. He wanted to shut down drilling and that happened. He wanted to infringe on the second amendment, how to do it? Make it look as though Americans were selling weapons to the drug cartels. This man is a sociopath and very dangerous. I have to wonder, what they are planning for right before the election. I’m going to send a hard copy letter to Darrell Issa and request that they get Mr. Melson under oath to find out who knew what and when. I’m sure Obama knew every step of this.
Can people who are accessories to murder by providing weapons to those who are going to commit crimes, now call it “Policy” and just walk away from it?
Our President is a great admirer of Saul Alinsky the known Chicago Communist agitator and propagandist. The KGB had a complete division set up for disinformation and agitation called department #6, a situation like what transpired in “GunWalker” is called a “false flag” operation or what you see and hear might not be what is actually is happening. After the “Pigford Scam” that the President and Mr. Holder pulled off for $4 Billion Dollars for the benefit of the non existent 86,000 black farmers, you actually think that they are not culpable or capable of/for something like this? What a coup for the President and Holder if they could have brought down the 2nd Amendment with just a few hundred Mexican Police Officers and one or two Border Patrolmen blown away, no big deal. Those cops would just be the end result of making an omelet, a couple of hundred broken eggs and lives.
The Office of Special Counsel is an independent federal investigative and prosecutorial agency that has the power to compel federal law enforcement agencies, their leaders, and even the White House to testify
In theory Congress has this same power. In practice the Obama administration has given Congress the finger. I don’t see why it would be any different with a Special Prosecutor.
Can we handle the truth? It most likely would require the execution of major mesia and legal figures. This is so clearly an idealized situation of the gun control world that I have heard this senerio for at least fifteen years.
So what do we do when we trace it all back and we find that today’s John Sarica is behind it all? A law school dean may have set this up but more likely it was somebody higher in the circles of power than that.
Will we execute them and if we won’t isn’t it better that we don’t know what snake did this to us? Don’t get me wrong. I would love to be on the firing squad for Hillary Clinton but I would hate to see another run up and then a prosecuter throw the case the way Kennth Starr did. And I don’t care what they got for it it ripped the country apart when they gave Bill Clinton a pass after they hd him.
Richard Nixon was a piker compared to this.
Hussein, Holder and Incompetano pulled this trigger on this, and they have the temerity to stick their hands down our pants and call us terrorists. If this is not prosecuted we are no longer a nation of laws.
Free Scooter Libby.
“how the administration might be able to rule by decree.”
“executive branch agencies had such callous disregard for legal precedent and human life….”.
There’s a lot more going on “under the radar”, so much so that it seems impossible to keep up. Example? Just look at the U.N. tentacles of the “21″ scheme which Obama enthusiastically embraces and supports.
How much more evidence do we actually need of treason? Taking an oath with intention to use it to deceive, believing your own lies and systematically giving the Constitution the finger while publicly supporting foreign bureaucrats in the imposition of international law/decrees in America? Yes indeed.
No shame and more of the same – unless we oust this administration before 2012. Prosecute, and hold accountable ALL these bozos that think they’re above the Law…beginning with the POTUS.
Here here!
But is there enough collective back bone left in this country for that to happen?
I understand that there is the need for a certain kind of procedure, but I am astonished about all this story: “special counsel” ?????? We just need a DA with attributes. In how many Counties the sales have happened ? How many DAs are there ?
Open an investigation, use the FBI against the felons at the ATF and their political bosses.
They did give weapons to criminals to commit crimes and kill people !!!!
I am astonished that the Republic is going down without a true sign of reaction.
Shame on all the fake journalists who are not doing their duty !
Melson has to testify. I cannot envision him lying under oath to save Holder. Right now he’s probably guilty of nothing more than bad judgment, but perjury before Issa’s committee? Melson is the key.
I would not want to ride on an airplane with Melson right now.
We as a nation have been to this rodeo before.
To these people,the ends justify the means.
Don’t think of the few agents who may have unfortunate “accidents”. Think about all the lives that will be saved in the inner city when guns are finally banned. Is it not the agent’s job to protect people form gun violence?
You have to think big picture if you are going to save the world.