Gunwalker: President Obama’s Un-Plausible Deniability
I first ran into the concept of plausible deniability during my freshman year of college. A definition:
The term most often refers to the denial of blame in (formal or informal) chains of command, where upper rungs quarantine the blame to the lower rungs, and the lower rungs are often inaccessible, meaning confirming responsibility for the action is nearly impossible. In the case that illegal or otherwise disreputable and unpopular activities become public, high-ranking officials may deny any awareness of such act or any connection to the agents used to carry out such acts.
I was reading Tom Clancy’s Clear and Present Danger at the time, a novel that hinged on a fictional president deciding to change the war on drugs by descending into illegal covert activity.
Twenty-two years later, we are contemplating whether a sitting and all-too-real American president can claim plausible deniability for Operation Fast and Furious, Operation Castaway, and two unnamed but alleged operations in Texas that make up the Gunwalker scandal, which threatens to bring down the administration of Barack Obama.
The public scandal began when ATF whistleblowers disclosed that a multi-agency federal law enforcement operation in Arizona — Operation Fast and Furious — supplied weapons found at the crime scene of murdered U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry.
It was quickly revealed that federal law enforcement officers, supervisors, and administration appointees ensured that straw purchasers would be able to purchase weapons intended for the Sinaloa drug cartel without the threat of arrest. As federal agents watched — essentially acting as cartel security — 2,020 firearms were purchased, and the majority of them were “walked” by straw purchasers into the hands of the violent drug gang.
Mexican authorities claim that an estimated 150 Mexican law enforcement officers and soldiers, plus an unknown number of civilians have been murdered with weapons “walked” under the eyes of the federal task force. Three U.S. federal agents have also been shot in crimes using Fast and Furious weapons. Two died.
Initially, the Obama administration attempted to scapegoat acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson. When that failed, they colluded with the Washington Post and later possibly the New York Times on attempted character assassinations of Congressman Darrell Issa. Issa, along with Senator Charles Grassley, is leading the charge to investigate the scandal.
A month following Melson’s testimony to Issa’s committee, the Gunwalker landscape has changed considerably. Emails have been unearthed, additional figures with inside knowledge of the operation are testifying, and more congressmen and senators have joined the probe of the Department of Justice to see just how wide and high the administration’s knowledge of and participation in the gunwalking program — or programs — truly went.
All of these evolving disclosures are increasing the pressure on administration officials such as U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, both of whom simply must have known of the operations considering the high-level collaboration between multiple agencies under their control.
Which leads to President Obama: how is it possible that the White House was not aware of Fast and Furious while it was occurring? We now know the following:
- The #2 man in the ATF, Acting Deputy Director William Hoover, tried to shut Operation Fast and Furious down in March of 2010 but was rebuffed.
- Officials with the Justice Department and ATF tried to evade Senator Grassley’s attempts to discover where the guns came from.
- A National Security Council (NSC) operative in the White House named Kevin O’Reilly was in direct contact with Bill Newell, the agent in charge of the operation. (Are we to believe that the benign emails released between the two men were their only Gunwalker conversations, and that O’Reilly wasn’t briefing the National Security Council or the president?)
- The U.S. attorney involved in Fast And Furious, Dennis Burke, is a long-time Napolitano ally and was her chief of staff while she was governor from 2003-2008. Burke is also on the attorney general’s Advisory Committee border and immigration law enforcement subcommittee. He recently opposed a routine filing by murdered Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s family, in a move that appears designed to protect him in criminal and civil trials regarding Gunwalker.
- Emails reveal that every law enforcement director in DOJ was briefed on Operation Fast and Furious. All have been silent on the allegations except the scapegoated Melson and the DEA administrator, who surfaced long enough to deny that her agency was involved in the criminal actions.
- The Departments of Justice, Homeland Security, and Treasury were involved (State and CIA have allegedly had roles in the operation, but these allegations have not been confirmed by evidence).
With this level of cooperation across at least three (Homeland Security, Justice, Treasury) departments and among at least eight directors, with long-term personal contacts between friends and political allies that have been fingered as key players in this scandal, and with the president’s own words and deeds regarding his radical views towards gun rights in this country, is it rational to believe the president and his closest advisers had nothing to do with this murderous plot?
When we see a cover-up being orchestrated, we should rationally assume that the cover-up exists to hide criminal culpability. When we see corruption spread across the highest and most connected levels of government, we should rationally assume that the person at the top, President Obama, likely was involved.
With the latest evidence, Barack Obama and his co-conspirators no longer have plausible deniability. It remains to see how they will fare with criminal culpability, as more whistleblowers come forward from Justice and DHS to avoid prison time themselves.
It is time to subpoena Napalitano. Get her under oath to answer some simple but direct questions.
Not gonna happen…
No, its not rational, but we do not live in rational times.
This is a non-story everywhere but PJM.
The implications are just too frightening to allow for discussion.
Everyone, and I mean everyone, including all the serious Republican candidates, will continue to avoid this story like plague. Just the word “gun” scares off too many Indie Squishes, and the MSM will always tie the ugly “gun” word to the evil white guy who raises the issue. Nothing to be gained politically by bringing it up.
Kinda like how the word “abortion” always gets negatively associated with Republicans, even when the issue is illegal late term, delivered live, infanticide, in the Democrat Stronghold of Philadelphia…
All ugly words and images are immediately “owned” and associated with the “bad Guys” the media designates.
Arizona = Racist = Shooter = Palin = any and all Republicans.
See? Nice, simple, and lets be serious, impossible to defeat.
Who wants to get baited into discussing barbed wire, head shots, carry rights and pyscho-killers
with the sound-bite media?
Mention any aspect of it, and youre immediately wearing it around your neck, scaring the Squish.
Remember when the Branch Davidian compound went up in flames?
What did Time Magazine put on the cover?
Controversy, questions, uncertainties, outrage?
Nope, just the words “Oh, my God, they’re killing themselves!” They telegraphed to the world in overwhelming volume, the official party line story, and everyone else fell in line.
Ask any Indie Squish today what they think of the Branch Davidians and they’ll say:
“Ewww, those crazy people that killed themselves?”
And YOU”RE the creep, because you brought it up.
“yucky, scary things you always talk about, ewww, I cant vote for YOU”
Any mention of this Gunwalker story will be twisted to serve the same purpose.
Count on it.
These aren’t the droids we’re looking for. They can be on their way. Move along……
Seriously?
Yes, seriously.
Any FBI guys sitting in jail over Waco?
Ruby Ridge?
Anyone resign in disgrace…Reno, Clinton, anybody?
If you think this is gonna go anywhere, (beyond the blogosphere)
I’ve got a bridge to sell you.
Aint. Gonna. Happen.
The Indie Squishes that every election outcome depends on, dont like ugly news.
If they were critical thinkers, concerned with facts, they wouldnt BE Indie Squish.
They’ll simply blame the messenger for Harshing their Vibe.
And the “messenger” will always be whatever REPUBLICAN bring this up.
Its Textbook level media manipulation
One side supresses, the other exposes.
Guess who the Squish associate with the bad news?
Seriously.
I and many others have been emailing Fox News about their neglect in reporting this scandal. That was addressed last night. Laura Ingram, sitting in for Bill O’Reilly, finally had a segment last night. Maybe now there will be more coverage.
Exactly my point…
Fox News FINALLY has come around,
Day late and dollar short.
Even if they WERE on top of it from the beginning, ask yourself how much of a difference their (appropriate and necessary) negative analsis of his Rev. Wright and Bill Ayres connections made with the MSM and the Indie Squish?
Zero.
In the F-ed up world we live in, Ugly Stories hurt the messenger.
Anyone who brings them up will be played like a fiddle by the MSM.
indie squish???
Not gonna happen, She will just lie like Holder did. He swore under oath he had not heard of it until “recently” and there are U-tube video’s all over the place from 2009 in which he says the POTUS Admin have instructed them on Operation Gunrunner”……These people will tell ANY lie to save their butts….of course MOST that commit crimes will to….What is it to them if some “Maybe God” will make them pay later, all they know is the “here and now”
NO IT’S NOT RATIONAL !! IT WAS DEVELOPED AT THE TOP,DON’T KID YOUR SELF !!
NO!!!!!!
OF COURSE THEY HAD TO KNOW!
AND THEN THE ONE’S INVOLVED ARE PROMOTED, AND KEPT WHERE THEY CAN
BE WATCHED OVER AND MADE SURE THEY DON’T TESTIFY~ I’D BE VERY
AFRAID!
ABSOLUTELY, THEY HAD TO KNOW!
THEY HAD TO GIVE THAT MUCH MONEY!
THEN THEY HAD TO KEEP THOSE INVOLVED CLOSE TO WASHINGTON
AND HOLDER SO THEY CAN PRESSURE THEM/AND OR GET RID OF THEM!
I WOULD BE VERY AFRAID IF I WERE ANY OF THE THREE – PROMOTED!
I think the Presidential order ( not a law passed by Congress ) that TX NM AZ, gun sales of two or more will be followed up by a visit from the Feds, indicates at least that he was a willing participant.
No, it’s not rational.
And I could use a primer on Special Prosecutors. What does it take to get one? Which individuals in “the judiciary” appoint one? What powers does a Special Prosecutor have that a Congressional investigative committee does not — in particular, can Holder and others ignore subpoenas and suppress evidence as readily with a S.P. as they seem to be doing with Issa?
I hear Ken Star is available.
Ken Star also let Bill Clinton off the hook by prosecuting for the one thing that cannot be an impeachable offense. Lying to a Federal law enforcement official is the one thing that the President cannot do. The President in the Constitution is made the Chief of Law Enforcement Officials of the United States. Not only is disputing his statements always the crime of the insubordination but Ken Star was asking about things that could in no way be Federal crimes. Humping the help as long as it was voluntary may be gross and low class is not at all illegal under Federal law.
Ken Starr sabotaged the impeachment of William Jefferson Clinton and saved the Democrats and Progressives.
I think Holder will get thrown under the bus for this, maybe even Napolitano. But definitely Holder. And what will happen is that Holder will take the hit for this and when Obama gets voted out of office in 2012, he will pardon Holder just before he leaves office. That way, all of these crimes, not to mention all of the murders, will simply be swept under the rug. This administration is filled with nothing but rats.
But as someone pointed out elsewhere, Obama cannot issue a MEXICAN pardon. Extradition of Holder then becomes an attractive option for the new President. Of course, since he will be of the Stupid Party, he will doubtless pass up this opportunity to obtain justice in the name of playing nice-nice with the whining progressives, who consistently demand “bipartisanship” when they are out of power, while refusing to offer it whenever they are in power. Thus, America will stumble on doing business as usual until the next major scandal.
LS-46 you’r putting a bad rap on rats, this entire regime is corrupt from the top down, hopefully they will wait till the current occupant of the oval office is no longer in a position to pardon anyone and then ivestigate the entire regime from the top to the bottom. and hopefully they will all be doing fourty years one day and one hour at hard labor. and I do mean HARD labor,
We should press-on with investigations regardless. When a large percentage of the administration’s czars and appointee’s are pure radical; the fact is this: there is BETRAYAL in the WH and it SHOULD be investigated; it’s our duty as citizens.
C’mon ISSA et al; get with it and PUSH, PUSH, PUSH. Do NOT be afraid !!!!!
This has all the makings of the decision going all the way to the top. We the people just need investigative journalists like Woodward and Bernstein. This would top Watergate’s betrayal because U.S. citizens died at the hands of the highest office in the land. You can see the ongoing coverup because government handlers are being promoted to reward their silence. There would be tenious investigation had it not been Obama, or a Kerry, or a Pelosi, or a Reid, or a Schumer, or a Feinstein, or a Waters and so on and so on and so on.
Worse in many ways than Watergate, it’ll never be treated like Watergate. Back in ’73 the media hated Nixon and had no qualms about going after him. Today, the media cover Obama like a protective blanket. It’s “All the news that fits the agenda”.
More like a condom.
Duh!
Not only U.S. citizens, but hundreds if not thousands of Mexican citizens:
1) Those guns, once in the hands of the narcoterrorists, do not just sit around doing nothing. They get used, and only for one thing: killing human beings.
2) The majority of the weapons sold and “walked” have not been (and may never be) recovered. So, 1,300 weapons or so (just from the Arizona operation) are still out there, being used by the sickest, coldest, nastiest thugs on the face of the earth. And most of them will be used many, many times. We are talking thousands of fatalities. I charge Barack Obama with complicity in mass murder.
If there is any justice, he will someday be put on trial for crimes against humanity. The sooner the better.
Sorry, I didn’t read anything about all that in the Pravda, and if the Pravda doesn’t say it, you cannot accuse Comrade Obama (applause), Leader of the Great Change (applause) of the Soviet Union of America (SUA).
You trotszkyites, allied of the fascists and of imperialism, better watch what you say.
Mr. Owens asks, “Is it rational to believe the president and his closest advisers had nothing to do with this murderous plot?” And the answer is . . . of course not!
Picture this. Obama takes a phone call. “Mr. President, I have an idea how we can destroy the Second Amendment. When can we get together?” Not much later our current Leninist President, with his feet and necktie on the oval office desk, entertains a handful of other Marxist-Leninists, including Napolitano, Holder, Gibbs, and some others, where Gunwalker is conceived and approved. Everyone exits laughing, giving one another high fives.
That’s how it went down.
…..And the tie is a clip-on.
This administration doesn’t need plausible deniability as that term is usually used; the only ones who’ll accuse them of a bad act are conservatives and Republicans and the administration’s fellow travellers in the media will just vilify the accusers. BHO and Holder will stonewall and claim all sorts of privilege and the courts won’t take this “political issue” on; they can read the paper and know when the next election is. The only way to get any justice for this callous, cynical propaganda ploy to justify draconian gun control is to win the Senate and the Presidency in ’12 and apply a scorched earth policy to the Democrats’ front groups and fellow travellers. Give me a small team of investigators and auditors and I’ll guarantee you that I can put anybody who receives federal funds or spends union dues in jail, no ifs, ands, or buts. That and a good hard look at the tax exempt status of all sorts of Democrat front groups out to keep the communist bastards out of power for a generation or two.
Assuming Republicans show some nerve/guts/cojones.
Like THAT will ever happen
Hey, hey, I can get Obama off this hook. It wasn’t his fault! He was simply following the orders from Ayers and his other anti-American, destroy-the-American-middle-class masters for whom he works.
“the Gunwalker scandal, which threatens to bring down the administration of Barack Obama…”
From your mouth to God’s ear, Bob, but I don’t see that we’re even within shooting distance of that. Not as long as the Great One still has nearly every newspaper in America in his capacious left pocket. I’ll consider it a phenomenal achievement if we can bring down just Holder with this.
Does the press determine who gets investigated and prosecuted? Hopefully Congress and the judiciary are able to act on their own.
Are you sure it’s the back pocket?
I think it’s the front pocket!
Praise and kudos to Darrell Issa; he has shown courage, decisiveness and integrity in pursuing this top-to-bottom catastrophe called Gunwalker.
From the bottom; American agents and families have shed blood and tears while asking their superiors why such an insane program was implemented. One can only imagine the justified horror and righteous anger these illegal guns have caused in Mexico. Unimaginable, would be the reaction in the U.S. were roles reversed.
From the top; nothing but delay, denial and lies. This is worse than Watergate, Iran/Contra and the Lewinsky debacles combined. President Barak Obama isn’t screwing some young subordinate in the White House, he is stabbing in the back those brave, selfless and America-loving men and women who put their lives on the line to protect this country.
Holder, Napolitano and the elite media who ignore and obfuscate this issue are beneath contempt.
The 2012 election is coming, America – time to throw out the trash.
A few months ago, Obama made a remark to some supporters, (when asked about gun legislation) that unfortunately Congress would not cooperate, but he had
(and I am paraphrasing here) some backdoor ways that they were looking at….
Wonder what “backdoor ways” he was talking about?????
I believe that President Obama actually told Sarah Brady during a White House meeting that he was working on more gun control “under the radar”.
“I just want you to know that we are working on it. We have to go through a few processes, but UNDER THE RADAR!” -Barack Obama, March 30, 2011
Sarah Brady has been in the news before.
. Here is a direct quote from Sarah Brady of Handgun Control:
“Our main agenda is to have ALL guns banned. We must use whatever means possible. It doesn’t matter if you have to distort facts or even lie. Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed.” to Senator Howard Metzenbaum – The National Educator, January, 1994, Page 3.
I think pivan said he was doing things under the table that they couldn’t talk about!
Greatwas this one of them?
i believe carte blanche has been given to holder to implement, to the best of his ability and at his sole discretion, a “hopey changey” totalitarianesque society
obama is nothing if not a delegator-in-chief
i’m sure obama would pass a lie detector test in regards to his issuing the specific orders for the “gunwalker” operation
So long as the LSM is not writing about this, or worse, attempting to besmirch the messengers (i.e., Issa and Grassley) this is not going anywhere.
I should add, that at first I though O might not be involved, but this extends just too far to think he is not. So, the answer is, it not rational to think he is not involved.
When asked what his administration was doing about gun control obama had replied that they were working on it “under the radar”
What are the chances of getting him to expand on that statement?
I think it is possible BHO had no prior knowledge of this criminal enterprise. I think he is disengaged from the day to day affairs of his administration, the inner working of his own cabinet, and the agencies they control. All he pays attention to are polls and practicing his rhetoric on the teleprompter. Does he know now that his underlings planned and oversaw the operations? Yes. I think he’s waiting until Holder and Napalitano are about to be put under oath at a congressional hearing before he fakes chagrin and throws them under the bus. Then he will announce he has been investigating this on his own and is firing all responsible parties. From BHO’s perspective, the sooner the better. From the perspective of the GOP and yes, from our perspective, it would be best for this to happen during mid-October of 2012.
Parker,
Exactly right. He is a marxist who surrounds himself with fellow minded miscreants. They simply implement plans that he is “on board” with philosophically, but completely immune to from an operational standpoint.
Its just how things are done in totalitarian regimes.
What did Hitler know of the trains?
Diesel or electric?
Or the ovens, gas or coal fired?
You can “approve of” an operation,
but you never “approved” it, see?
And thats the story our MSM will stick with. Remember, they are part of the regime, too. Unless there is a signed memo or audio recording from Obama himself specifically saying:
“I want to “loses” some guns to the Mexican drug gangs under the cover of an L/E operation, to screw the Gun Bitter Clingers with that “90%” jazz..how can we do this?”
The MSM story will dutifully point out “he wasnt part of it”
Mr. Owens, by being so diligent in reporting this, by putting together such a clear and logical evidence-based case, you do us great service. You, and the other journalists who report on this are as integral a part of the bulwark against tyranny as any congressman investigating this matter. Thank you.
You say “is it rational to believe the president and his closest advisers had nothing to do with this murderous plot?”. Murderous plot huh? A murderous plot it is. I realize you have to be very careful in what in what you say and what allegations you make to avoid going over the top. You cant necessarily connect the dots and make assumptions. You are a professional journalist and your professionalism shows.
I am not a professional journalist. I will say it. A murderous plot to effect political change; to create an atmosphere of fear in a population, swaying them to support an agenda is terrorism. Not figuratively, literally terrorism, Bin Laden style.
How did that old ditty go?
Treason doth never prosper.
What’s the reason?
For when it prosper
None dare call it treason.
Well, it IS treason. Nothing less. Consider that most of those occupying the halls of Washington DC are in direct violation of their oaths of office. Consider that the likes of Billy Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn are still walking around alive and free.
None of them are fit to live in a free society. None.
Believe it or not, the LA Times has in the last few weeks published 6 articles about this including 2 on the front page. There might be hope.
That’s right. Richard Serrano ain’t lettin’ go.
Murderous plot to accomplish – what exactly?? You present information, imply ‘collusion’ and ‘cover-up’, but fail to supply the MOTIVE. C’mon, stop bloviating and MAKE A POINT! By the way, love the ‘cogent’ and oh so convincing intro to the piece, nothing like references to Tom Clancy novels to enhance the perception of competence…
It’s Obama and the Chicago way, and you can’t find a motive there?
To accomplish what? Enacting more draconian gun laws. Was that so difficult to comprehend.
The motive is simple enough for even someone stupid enough to have supported Obama to understand: most in The Obama Junta are vehemently opposed to the 2nd Amendment and would like to disarm all us rubes who cling to guns and Bibles. They create a series of incidents involving ugly black guns purchased legally from eeeeeeeeeeeeeeevvuuuulll gun stores on the US side of the border and, never wasting a crisis, they use that as their excuse for federal firearms control legislation or, failing legislation, in their dictatorial fashion, new “executive” orders.
Of course, the whole thing was ignorant and hamfisted and once again demonstrates the Obama elitists contempt for the American people. We bitter clingers understand what the faculty lounge communists don’t: no Mexican “drug lord” or his muscle boys wants sissy US legal semi-automatic weapons. Those Saiga 12 guages, AKs, AR-15s, etc. look all black and scary but they’re not automatic weapons and because many of the rifles are in pistol or sub-machine gun calibers, they’re not nearly as lethal with a single shot as a common hunting rifle. They have a somewhat higher rate of fire in the hands of a practiced shooter and usually have a larger magazine than common hunting rifles but they are no match for a military grade automatic weapon, without which Mexican bad boys would be laughed out of their favorite “gentleman’s club.”
People who buy cocaine and heroin by the ton can easily ask their supplier to pitch in a case of Russian, Chinese, Eastern European, or even stolen American military grade automatic weapons. They aren’t going to use their “hard earned” cash to buy easily traceable US semi-automatic gun store weapons.
This whole thing was a ham-fisted propaganda ploy. I’d bet the ranch that the money was US Treasury funds, the buyers were US law enforcement “assets,” and there is a memo somewhere advising all federal law enforcement to be on the lookout for US weapons at border crime scenes so they could make press releases about them.
Art,
You are dead-on…
Narco drug lords certainly dont pay RETAIL for a SEMI auto…
Then try sneaking (what, 5-10 at a time?) across a border in what, a freaking CAR?
Yeah, THATS plausable.
They have container ships deliver the REAL DEAL by the thousands…
From every cut-throat, thief-thug-Government-Official-on-the-take, from Moscow to Zimbabwe.
Seriously, who doesnt know this?
Gunrunner was nothing but an attempt to have some “data” to support the “90%” lie.
Why else would they let 2000+ guns walk away with no intervention at all, when they were willing to kill Randy Weavers son and wife over a mere shotgun barrel that was 1/4 inch too short?
Thanks for the kind words! It amazes me that even people on our side of the ideological ditch are buying the “botched operation” meme and don’t see this for what it was. Hell, even legal US gun buyers don’t keep a Saiga 12 stock any longer than it takes to convert it, why would you think a genuine bad guy would buy a sissy gun? It just proves both that the Junta is stupid and they think we all are.
to blowme: have another kool-aid, you’ll feel better.
Worse than Watergate? This makes Watergate look like a shoplifting charge for a candy bar at Walmart. This community organizer has been so pampered and promoted well beyond his ability for most of his life he has no ability too understand that he actions may be called into question. He and his handlers believed they are above serious questioning by the MSM. These dolts believed that could blatantly break the law, commit felonies and snooker the MSM like they did with the 90% of guns recovered in Mexico came from the US BS story the MSM ran with, without question. Well of course they did. Big sis, Holder’s justice, ATF et all let it happen. Why? Is it possible that they wanted to place more restrictions on US gun ownership using the “evidence” of the recovered guns in Mexico as proof? These people elevate the word stupid exponentially as each day goes by.
This reeks of LBJ’s Tonkin Gulf fraud.
The proper venue to ask this and other questions concerning the possible guilt of the President in this sordid affair is a Senate trial of Impeachment.
First, there needs to be a Bill of Indictment from the House. Perhaps Congressman Issa and Congressman Goudy can oblige us all by submitting such a bill.
As for motivation, Blowme (rather appropriate nom de plume), it should render out as a conspiracy in the Executive to create a crisis involving illegal arms sales that could then be used in a propaganda campaign to break the contitutionally protected right for American citizens to bear arms. Now why would the party of peace and love want to have a monopoly on deadly force?
So you really think that after the trillions stolen in the stimulus I and II bills and the crimes against humanity that this WH is commiting as they snatch defeat from the jaws of victory all over the world that there is anything that the Reid Senate would convict this President for? I just hope that they never come up with a valid birth certificate because the next President does not have to recognize Obama’s appointments and executive orders if it is held afterward that he was a civilian.
The motive? It was to pass stricter gun laws under the pretext that guns recovered in Mexico came from the US. Of course they did Big sis, Holder, ATF , obama allowed them to. Remember the big MSM stories with the pictures of the hundreds of guns recovered in Mexico with 90% of them tracing back to US gun shop. The dolts in the MSM were all too willing to run with that BS story without any fact checking or due diligence. Due Diligence and MSM in the same sentence is an oxymoron. This will not go away. But not because the likes of Woodward and Bernstein will be covering it.
They’re not Dolts, Bob,
The MSM are “unindicted co-conspirators” in this affair
I wonder if there isn’t another gigantic scandal lurking just under the surface:
“Misplaced” stimulus money, perhaps sitting in huge offshore accounts; $865 billion allows for a lot of margin for “spillage” that can easily hide hundreds of millions of dollars, even billions.
Does anyone remember when the Stimulus division’s web site “created” 440 new “Congressional districts” to which they “distributed” stimulus funds? They also made up a bunch of new Zip codes for the same distribution purpose. Was that gross incompetence or cavalier laziness, or was that a deliberate attempt at diverting money elsewhere, possibly to private accounts, or secretly to special interest groups, or both?
I’m perplexed that that whole thing has sunk beneath the waves, along with a whole bunch of other glaringly obvious trangressions by this administration and the past Democratic Congress. The list of genuine grievances against Obama and the Democrats is several times longer than those against King George in the Declaration of Independence.
Thomas Jefferson said it best,“I am convinced that those societies which live without government enjoy in their general mass an infinitely greater degree of happiness than those who live under the European government. Among the former, public opinion is in the place of law, and restrains morals as powerfully as laws ever did anywhere. Among the latter, under pretense of governing, they have divided their nations into two classes; wolves, and sheep. I do not exaggerate!
If once, they (the people) become inattentive to the public affairs, you and I and Congress and assemblies, judges, and governors shall all become wolves….”
We need to be careful who we replace Obama with.
Somehow Biden must be involved or if Obama goes……
He could be worse than Ford and Carter….combined.
Biden couldn’t be worse he is too dumb to be devious.
Sorry if I’m a little redundant. I posted without my name and it posted as anonymous. Buffalobob
I believe after two and a half years it’s become clear the correct term for this admin’s efforts is “deniable plausibility.”
As much as I looked there is no piece on Warren Buffet doing Obama’s bid for higher taxes.
Well, look no further than “Warren Buffet, Go To Hell!” at http://www.robbingamerica.com
This site plugs the many gaps on the conservative press.
I’m amazed that people have no clue as to this when I mention it. We all should be putting this out there. It’s time to nail those responsible.
This administration is no different than any before it; greed, corrupt ambition and moral duplicity.
Gunwalker has little to do with guns, the root of this are layers of drug smuggling and hard Cash transfers between US government agencies and Drug Cartels that has been going on since the 1950′s. It is the dirty little secret in Washington DC the American Public refuses to acknowledge or believe.
There are planes confiscated in Mexico recently, carrying undisclosed amounts of Drugs and Weapons, including grenades, military issue hardware and Sniper rifles, and several tons of pure cocaine. It is the registration and pilots of these planes that will cause further reflection on the part of Americans to what their government has been doing these past decades.
Until the USA finally admits their government has been actively smuggling weapons and drugs, supplying cartels with Weapons, actively assisting laundering of Drug Cartel Cash around the world since the late 50′s, the nonsense will continue.
We had a chance with Iran / Contra to put an end to the great American lie, and we failed. Lets not fail again.
Well, I guess I was born yesterday, because I don’t know what you’re talking about. DECADES??? WTF?!
Can you give some links here?
To compare Iran-contra to Fast & Furious is to compare apples to oranges. F&F is beyond the pale.
nothing is going to happen about this. they let this afican non-person take office w/o one legitimate credential. csi’s and gov agencies can tell who someone is w/in minutes of having one fingerprint; but, we are to believe that no one could find out he had not one legit document? then after two years and the entire resources of the most powerful government on the planet and he comes out w/ that 1st grade forgery, and everything is o.k.?
we are going to have to take our country back, one way or another. polititians are not going to be able to get him out. the excuse makers will find some reason to stall, delay and finally just stop the elections. he can’t win an honest election. they will cheat, big. this bunch of marxists have no intention of going anywhere. the sooner we start toward that real objective the sooner we can breathe easier about of children’s future.
He is an idiot and might do something like gunwalker but he brought with im hundreds of idiots in to Government. The ATF and FBI have certianly gottone massive cases of the stupids before when they were performing for more funding from Congressional Committees. In this case I can not imagine that this gem does not go at least as high as holder.
Iran / Contra
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB2/nsaebb2.htm
Iran / Contra and Gunwalker are the same agencies; DOJ, CIA, and the like doing the same thing they have been for decades; smuggling weapons, smuggling drugs, laundering money for drug cartels, covering up for participants and worse. Lets not be willfully ignorant regarding our nation any longer. Wrong is wrong and we need to stop partisanship because it happened on a GOP or DNC Administration.
BCCI Bank was a joint venture between the CIA, Banking interests and Pakistani Interests. You can google BCCI and pull up dozens of links detailing the US govt involvement in money laundering and drug smuggling using BCCI to launder the funds offshore. BCCI was used by US government since the early 1970′s.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,973481,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Credit_and_Commerce_International
John Castillo is an X-DEA agent that wrote a book detailing the US govt involvement in Drug smuggling and money laundering, it is called “Powerburns”. it details US involvement from 1984-1990.
Wachovia / Wells Fargo Bank have admitted laundering over 370 BILLION USD in drug cartel funds in the last 10 years
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-29/banks-financing-mexico-s-drug-cartels-admitted-in-wells-fargo-s-u-s-deal.html
http://www.copi.com/defrauding_america/chp_20.htm
There are dozens and dozens of links available for BCCI, Brenneke deposition,
Nugan Hand Bank, NCA, Meneses-Blandon, Haiti SIN organization, etc, etc…all operated by the US government to launder Cash, smuggle weapons, distribute weapons, smuggle drugs and work with drug cartels and drug lords in Asia, Central and South America, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Italy, anywhere drugs can be sold and money laundered.
It is about Money, not patriotism, not politics, not who is right or wrong. It is the bottom line of profit at any cost. Time for America to remove wool from its eyes and see the US government for what it truly is, and has been doing since the 1950′s.
Various members of the Obama Administration have said they want more gun control.
How do you get more people to give up their 2nd Amendment Rights? You show the need for it, so lots of people clamor for it.
The government of Mexico is performing their own investigation. What needs to happen is that the Mexican Government uses Extraordinary Rendition to take Holder and Napolitano into custody in a Mexican prison. Mexican officials have no problem with enhanced interrogation techniques and the truth would soon come out.
Fast and Furious went into operation only a couple of months after Obama took office. These were shovel-ready rifles. They use the rifles and then get the shovels ready. Obama created more shovel ready rifles than he did shovel-ready jobs.
This was hatched between Obama and Clinton. Remember when she met with Mexico’s leader early in 2009? She came back with bullsh_t figures about the number of guns “smuggled” across the border from the US and being used in crimes in Mexico. This was the “setup” so they could come back later and say “I told you so” after crime skyrocketed in Mexico due to GunWalker; then gun control laws would be a slam dunk.
The people are the epitome of evil.
I know that there are House committees that should be now investigating the DOJ as well as Holder on this. You would think Pub candidates would be talking about this and demanding facts from the Administration. Time for Pubs to put these facts out to Talk Radio, the alternative media and keep pounding for facts. Even some liberals, moderates, Indies will be shocked at the callousness of BHO and Holder on this plan.