Gunwalker: GOP Hopefuls Weigh In
As pressure continues to mount on Attorney General Eric Holder for his role in a plot to arm Mexico’s Sinaloa drug cartel to support the 90-percent lie, Republican presidential contenders are finally being asked about their position on the scandal.
Michele Bachmann told reporters after a town hall meeting Monday morning that if the facts are as they seem, the attorney general must step down:
“This is an extremely serious set of facts that we’re looking at,” Bachmann said when The Daily Caller asked if Holder should resign.
“There needs to be a full investigation. And surely he should resign … if the facts prove to be what they appear to be.”
Bachmann became the first Republican presidential hopeful to call for Holder to potentially step down. GOP frontrunner Mitt Romney, also campaigning Monday, was asked whether he would call upon Holder to resign over the gun-walking scandal. He dodged the “yes-or-no” question for a painful 35 seconds:
“Governor, should Eric Holder resign over ‘Fast and Furious’? That’s a yes-or-no question, governor.”
After Romney initially ignored the question, The Daily Caller asked it a second time.
Romney wheeled around, took a break from shaking hands, signing autographs and answering voters’ questions, and took 35 seconds to explain why he wouldn’t answer the yes-or-no question.
“I do press [availabilities] and then I answer questions, that are important questions, in the length that I want to do,” Romney said. “But what I don’t do is in a group like this is stop and rattle off questions to people just as we walk along.”
“So that way,” he continued, “you don’t get the chance to hear the full answer that I’d like to give. So those are important questions. I’ll be happy to address them in a press avail or at the town meeting. But in these events, at events like this I don’t take press questions, because it doesn’t give you or me the chance to have a full discussion of the topic, when particularly it’s an important one like that.”
Romney and Bachmann, along with the other GOP hopefuls, will participate in the 90-minute Washington Post/Bloomberg debate tonight in New Hampshire. The furor over Operation and Fast and Furious and other alleged gunwalking operations has escalated significantly since the last Republican debate, and tonight may offer the first chance to see the candidates forced to answer questions about the plot, the administration’s attempts to stonewall the investigation, and whether or not Attorney General Holder should resign.
Herman Cain, the long-shot turned first-tier candidate, seems to have the most to gain or lose with his opinion on the scandal. Cain’s position on gun rights has been described as “soft” and a weak point in the conservative businessman’s base appeal. Texas Governor Rick Perry, another top tier candidate, would be expected to take a strong stance, and should be good for a soundbite should the question come about during the debate.
Life goes on outside of the 2012 race, and Holder is being excoriated there as well. House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa used his strongest language yet yesterday, stopping just short of calling him a criminal:
These firearms were not interdicted. They were not stopped. Your agents allowed these firearms purchases to continue, sometimes even monitoring them in person, and within days some of these weapons were being recovered in Mexico. Despite widespread knowledge within its senior ranks that this practice was occurring, when asked on numerous occasions about the veracity of this letter, the Department has shockingly continued to stand by its false statement of February 4, 2011.
Mr. Attorney General, you have made numerous statements about Fast and Furious that have eventually been proven to be untrue. Your lack of trustworthiness while speaking about Fast and Furious has called into question your overall credibility as Attorney General. The time for deflecting blame and obstructing our investigation is over. The time has come for you to come clean to the American public about what you knew about Fast and Furious, when you knew it, and who is going to be held accountable for failing to shut down a program that has already had deadly consequences, and will likely cause more casualties for years to come.
Issa’s letter mirrors the thoughts of other public officials and an increasing number of media figures. An unsigned op-ed in the San Francisco Examiner cites the constantly changing series of excuses from the Department of Justice, and calls for Holder to fire his aides or be fired himself.
Writing in the Washington Post, Marc A. Thiessen described Holder as “Obama’s albatross,” and ripped his entire tenure as U.S. attorney general as a series of catastrophic failures.
David Zurawik noted in the Baltimore Sun that the administration’s handing of the gunwalking scandal shows contempt for “real reporters” that actually ask the hard questions. This was a criticism of both the White House and the majority of mainstream media outlets that have done everything in their power to minimize or ignore the story — when they weren’t posting political hatchet jobs on behalf of the administration, as the New York Times and Washington Post have both done.
Issa continues to ramp up the pressure on Holder and the Department of Justice, and may issue subpoenas as early as today. Subpoenas would call on Holder to turn over documents he’s so far withheld, to testify under oath again in front of Congress, and would also request communications about the plot from over a dozen senior DOJ employees that may have been involved.






Romney reveals himself yet again.
He reminds of a clock that doesn’t sound right: flip-flop, flip-flop …
What a wheenie, a real RINO.
You can be sure that as President, he will not push criminal prosecutions of those responsible. We wouldn’t want to embarrass the ex Prez or Atty General now would we. Romney is a RINO. He’s the Republican establishment’s pick for the nominee, because he will not rock their boat. A Romney presidency will be more of the same old, same old from the establishment. The professional politicians of both parties are more interested in protecting their cush positions, and clinging to power, than addressing the needs of the country. Personally, I trust those Americans who “cling to their guns and bibles” more.
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Mittens is also the Demonrats choice. Why? Then THEY can take him down as a nutty Christer cultist ‘cuz we all know that LDS is a cult. He is the straw man of choice.
Perry is about the best we can do at this time.
Cain is just another race-baiter due to his hissy fit over the painted rock with a bad, bad racist name.
Newt will be pilloried for his past marital issues…… again.
Paul is ……… just nukkin’ futz. Even a blind squirrel finds an acorn now and then.
Bachmann is a woman. And well, we KNOW they and their hormones are volatile.
Johnson is …….. WHO?
Rag, who cares about Newt’s marriage problems? They have NOTHING to do with running a country. As I look over the lot we’ve been handed, Newt is the best choice on all fronts. Romney relies on his ‘pretty face’ to sway female voters, but the man has NO substance. Paul, while his intentions are great, is completely out of touch with what Reps & Dems would ever allow to take place in Washington. Santorum, Bachmann, and Johnson are, unfortunately, not taken seriously enough to get elected. Cain….. well, he would’ve gotten my vote UNTIL I heard he’s soft on gun rights AND he sees no reason to audit the Fed. Both of these issues are very important. He failed both. I’m just thankful Christie stayed out because if he backs Romney, then he’s just another Rino.
Seriously? I do think that Newt’s inability to remain faithful to his VOWS indicate that he’s unlikely to remain faithful to…well… anything.
At the very least, I’d like to know who he’s cheating with right now, so we know who his first First Lady would be.
Sorry, the only thing flip/flop newt knows ho to be is a RINO and he’s really really proud of it!
He is indeed the strawman of choice for the Dems, and he’s certainly the Great Establishment Hope of the RINO wing.
A Romney Presidency paired with Republican control of Congress would do more damage to America than another 4 years of Obama coupled with Republican control of Congress.
Worse yet, if Romney is the candidate, a whole lot of conservatives are going to make the serious mistake of staying home, which would jeaprdize that “Republican control of Congress” part.
Romney as the candidate may result in 4 more years of Obama AND the Dems running Congress.
There is no conceivable good outcome if Romney wins the nomination.
It’s either really bad or horribly bad.
I RELUCTANTLY agree. Or perhaps we should say, he’s the least bad.
Get over it.
That’s a small flaw compared to the massive downsides of most of the other candidates. I’m not pulling for Herman, but we could do a whole lot worse.
We white boys really cannot understand the emotional depths of the pain that racism has inflicted on black people. It behooves us to tread carefully when judging them for their reaction to such things.
As he should be. If a man cannot keep his word on such serious matters, what reason is there to believe he would show integrity in office? Wishful thinking?
Also, Newt has more problems than just his immorality. He’s fuzzy on too many fundamental issues. For the bright guy he is, to be taken in by AGW says a lot, and what it says ain’t good.
What other candidate running has aided and abbetted the enemy to the extent of making commericials alongside one of America’s worst enemies?
He’s not bad on domestic policies, but he’s waaaaay off the farm on foreign policy. The best that can be said is that he’s clueless on his good days. That’s a FATAL flaw in a man who would be President.
You DO realize that you have now and forever entered into forced celibacy, don’t you?
Yes Romney reveals himself as someone who prefers to think things through rather than shoot from the hip in the 24 hour dishonest news cycle, where an ill-chosen word can be used to destroy a person or campaign.
Romney is someone with the intelligence and experience necessary to defeat the wrong-headed and destructive Obama/media/academia/entertainment industry/ quadrilateral.
The suggestion that anyone else has what it takes to take on these destroyers is almost laughable.
Romney-Cain 2012.
Every time the Republicans run a fake conservative the Democrats run a real liberal and win. Romney is the favorite of Dems and Rinos everywhere. Romney is clearly favored by the MSM and every ‘kept conservative’ you’ll find in liberal organizations.
What has Romney got, other than a track record of governing somewhere to the left of Obama?
Oh, and a lot of pretty words since he decided to run for President. Yeah, those words sure mean a lot.
Anyway, back to my question: What has Romney got?
Why any conservative would vote for Romney is beyond me. With every word and action he shows himself to be part of the Republican/Democrat elite. The country club beltway Republicans would rather elect a Democrat who is like them socially than a conservative Republican.
(“Oooooh yeah”) “I do press [availabilities] and then I answer questions, that are important questions, in the length that I want to do. But what I don’t do is in a group like this is stop and rattle off questions to people just as we walk along.”
(verse) “So that way, you don’t get the chance to hear the full answer that I’d like to give. So those are important questions. I’ll be happy to address them in a press avail or at the town meeting.”
(refrain:) “But in these events, at events like this I don’t take press questions, because it doesn’t give you or me the chance to have a full discussion of the topic, when particularly it’s an important one like that.”
I’d always wondered what the lyrics to “Chacaron” were, thanks.
I’ll weigh in. Because you know what?
What I say and believe in counts for everything.
And you know why?
Because I don’t lie, cheat, break the law, I respect the Rule of Law, The US Constitution, and believe in my Country with all my heart.
This can not be said of just far too many government officials.
These are people whose only job is to protect and defend us through duty and honor to uphold and reinforce the rule of law.
The truth is something far different and most sinister.
They are tyrants and traitors who do no such thing, as they have violated and abrogated every principle, moral, and ethical concept of the oath they took upon obtaining high office, not to mention the oath of just plain old fashion being an American.
Obama, Holder, Hillary, along with all of the criminals involved, lets be dead honest here, their intentions are quite clear:
Overthrow of this here Constitutional Republic from the inside out, in order to obtain the sovereign will and power that belongs to, and is invested in We The People.
Impeach every damn one of them, for these people are the most lowly decrepit kind of humans, ones who lust for absolute power. I say impeach them, which is our founders brilliant instrument of political assassination designed to deal effectively with the ruling class who become so obnoxious as to become domestic enemies, a brilliant method of lawful redress effective in dealing with such a scourge, impeach them as the traitors and tyrants they are.
It is what they fully unquestionably deserve for such crimes, trespasses, and transgressions upon our Liberty and Rule of Law.
Good citizen, MTP you are without question accurate when you refer to the Obama/Holder diabolical duo as, DOMESTIC ENEMIES! Their utter contempt for our Republic and its Constitution are not only well documented but self avowed. Polite language and political monikers fail miserably in attempting to characterize the rank debauchery these fools have molested our Country with.
We are the 99 percent is the claim by the Woodstock crowd occupying Wall Street while shitting, pissing, and screwing in public. 90 percent of the Mexican cartel’s guns come from America is the claim by the American and Mexican President’s. Curiously, the Mexican and American governments claim they don’t know jack shit about the American guns smuggled across the border by American officials. You think maybe there was a secret congressional act authorizing the use of all means and force necessary to combat Mexican drug cartels? Before suing against targeted drone killings by the Bush administration, maybe these are the same lawyers that signed off on the killing of US citizens in foreign lands for being unlawful combatants?
Newt calls on debate organizers to include Gary Johnson Published: 6:01 PM 10/10/2011 | Updated: 6:33 PM 10/10/2011 http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/10/newt-calls-on-d…
“The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves.”
George Washington
Tonight’s debate is supposed to be exclusively about the economy, so Operation F&F questions are doubtful.
I wouldn’t necessarily take a candidate’s 2A stance as an indicator of his/her likelihood to prosecute. I’m looking for someone who knows what a “crime” is.
Good grief, Twi…, I mean, Mitt!! Grow a pair and for once in your life, take a position and state it!! Enough of your mealy-mouthed excuse-making; stop being such a damn RINO.
The facts–as currently known–clearly indicate that: (1) Either Holder knew about the op and lied about it to a Congressional Committee, or (2) Despite 5 memos being addressed and delivered to him personally in 2010, he claims to have become knowledgeable about the op “in the past few weeks or so” (late April/early May 2011), meaning: he’s incompetent. Either way, Holder needs to resign!!
By the way, does a subpoena really mean squat? There are extensions, delays, and redactions. I’m sure there are flat-out failures to produce that don’t result in punishment. What is to stop people from wiping hard drives, shredding papers, and just keeping things locked up? If someone says to an as-yet-untried criminal, “Give me everything that might incriminate you,” why on earth would the criminal comply? I never participated in a Model Federal Prosecution in high school, so I really don’t understand how it works.
There are 10 elected Sheriff’s in Arizona that thinks that the ATF and other John Doe’s set in motion an illegal and criminal scheme that ended in the death of sworn Peace Officers in both Mexico and the United States numbering in the 100′s. If any one of those 10 Sheriff’s issue a murder warrant for those they think involved, the arrest will go right up the chain of command and a lot of those that are cringing now will be cuffed and in jail awaiting trial on being an accessory to murder. If Mexico gets involved like it most likely will, they will ask for these men and women to be extradited to Mexico to stand trial for the murder of over 150 Police Officers shot down with those guns sent across the border. There are a lot of people who think killing a police officer is a VERY big deal, no one is going to walk away after being part in a scheme that had police officers slaughtered for what ever reason. It is becoming apparent that some in this administration set in motion a scheme to get rid of the 2nd Amendment by shipping guns across the border; they have to pay the price now for the killing they caused. Read the aspirants the above and ask them if warrants for the arrest of ATF agents should begin using information that is already known and has been testified to under oath.
A leader has to be held accountable, and one who brings dishonor to his office, or shows himself unfit to lead, should do the right thing and resign. Insisting “This is the first I’ve heard of that” is not the mark of a leader. To expect others to “wait for all the facts of the investigation to come out” is, in effect, to expect them to hold off deciding if you’re a crook or just incompetent.
Rush talked about this today, also.
I would never vote for Romney.
Romney advisers met a DOZEN TIMES! with Obama officials BEFORE the passage of Obamacare!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com
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Romney isn’t a RINO. A RINO is at least reliably liberal. Romney is a chameleon: he takes his political positions from his surroundings. He is the apotheosis of a businessman, determined to agree with his “customer” on every matter in order to make the sale. He campaigned to the left of Ted Kennedy in Massachusetts when running for the Senate, and governed as a liberal when Governor because he believed (rightly) that’s what the blue-state voters wanted. Now, in his primary run, he takes conservative positions when the venue demands it but will refuse to answer questions when he is unsure of the response that will resonate with Republican primary voters.
If he is elected President (god help us), his chameleon ways will continue. Expect him to take whatever position that will satisfy the “customers” in the Washington DC establishment. I’ll let you imagine how that will turn out.
Well said.
Any ties to Fast and Furious maybe?
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ACT OF WAR: MUSLIM AMERICAN ET AL ARRESTED IN IRANIAN PLOT TO COMMIT A “SIGNIFICANT TERRORIST ACT IN THE UNITED STATES”
“Jihadists teamed with Mexican drug cartels in Mexico (long infiltrated by Hizb’allah) to launch a massive Islamic attack in the United States and assassinate the Saudi ambassador in America.”
“…thinking things through…” Oh you mean like big GOV Romney Care. He has claimed to be a moderate and has flip floped on issues ranging from gun control to Romney Care. These positions are what helped to get us where we find ourselves now. Yeah, Reagan was laughed at and couldn’t win either.
The State Department gave its approval for the oil pipeline from Canada. I wonder if the department was anyway involved with the guns that went to Mexico. In other words, did they give their approval for this fiasco? That was an international transaction also, wasn’t it?
It shows you what the RINO Romney really is-he SUPPORTS “climate change” He STARTED what is now called OBAMACARE and now he REFUSES to support the removal of the most corrupt govt officials in history. He IS a total PHONY. I havent decided who I support yet, But I know one thing for sure-IT WONT BE ROMNEY.
I agree. Patiently watching the scuffles and the important issues like Fast&Furious. Rude awakening when NJ Gov came out for Romney. UNBELIEVABLE. So glad to know, because it was the nail in the box for both of them in my opinion. So disgusted with so many people who do not understand America. oops, there weren’t that many back in the 1700 era either, but the Patriots won. Same will happen again.
The Joy of Creeping Corruption
When the late economist-philosopher Friedrich Hayek coined the term “creeping socialism” in The Road to Serfdom, he couldn’t have envisioned the great socialist leap forward this America has witnessed under President Barack Hussein Obama. To complement the soaring socialism, Obama and his administration are now proving they are as guilty of creeping corruption as they are of perpetrating socialistic schemes.
It may all be a good thing.
In 2008, Obama was painted by his mainstream media as Mr. Clean, free of political contamination perhaps in part because he was so inexperienced in politics, and in everything else except community organizing. Perhaps, too, that cleanliness feature was on the mind of then-Senator Joe Biden when he described his future boss as “bright and clean.”
For the most part, the president somehow eluded significant scandal for two years but in the third year of his reign the dirt has hit the executive fan big time.
To be sure, there were relatively minor dings in Obama’s armor during his first two years. However, the out-of-control EPA and TSA, the WikiLeaks leaks, the black racism demonstrated at Eric Holder’s Justice Department, etc. and Obama’s scandalous mishandling of the economy weren’t comparable in gravity to the overt instances of corruption playing out now in both the White House and DoJ.
First came the “Fast and Furious” fiasco, the botched gun-running sting which resulted in the ATF furnishing some 1500 weapons to Mexican cartels which were then used to kill a U.S. border patrol agent and in countless crimes south of the border rather than achieving the planned aim of arresting Mexican criminals.
Close on the heels of Operation Fast and Furious came the Solyndra and LightSquared messes, the administration’s favoritism toward so-called “green” companies. Playing favorites is a time-honored if sleazy feature of politics but when the administration wasted hundreds of millions of dollars of scarce taxpayer money and the good buddies repaid that largesse by generously funneling millions back to Obama’s campaign war chest, favoritism entered the realm of impeachable corruption.
If anything, the corruptive nature of the LightSquared seamy involvement with the presidency actually eclipsed the Solyndra boondoggle.
What may turn out to be the ultimate irony in the deceit, misrepresentations, and outright lies of Eric Holder and Barack Obama relating to the administration’s growing record of corruption is the fact that most of it was avoidable had the president not adopted the Nixonian approach to being caught: deny, deny, and deny again. . .
(Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=5724.)
From Sept of 2004 –this article details an FDIC bank/immigrant/housing loan program that had kicked off the year before –in Chicago. Did i mention, in Chicago?
Where was George Bush? Fighting in DC to keep fighting in the MidEast, which held the power to repeat 9/11, a repeat of which in those tender years would have crashed the US economy so badly, it might even have slowed down the Subprime/CDS Plot.
PS/18; sorry, forgot the topical part on thread: that the submerged part of Fast & Furious is extremely likely to include a number of those military weapons showing up among an (already quasi-criminal because) illegal population in Chicago that has been deliberately built-up by Chicago-machine banks since at least the year the machine began offically billing US taxpayers for the privilege of importing the home unit of the future Obama’s street army, that is, 2003.