Gunwalker: Fast Leaks, Furious Congressmen
July 5, July 12, July 19, July 26, and August 9, 2010.
These are the dates of weekly memos provided by National Drug Intelligence Center Director Michael Walther to Attorney General Eric Holder. Each was a short document that included information on Operation Fast and Furious, including descriptions of the operation as a multi-agency task force targeting a gun trafficking ring headed by Manuel Celis-Acosta that had purchased “1,500 firearms that were then supplied to Mexican drug trafficking cartels.”
The release of these documents from mid-2010 — and supporting documents from Department of Justice insiders discussing “gunwalking” — has led House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith (R-TX) to ask President Obama to appoint a special prosecutor. The special prosecutor would investigate whether or not Attorney General Holder committed perjury when he stated in sworn testimony in March: “[I] probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks.”
Rep. Raul Labrador (R-ID) yesterday called for Holder to resign, and Arizona Senator John McCain is “leaning towards” demanding a special council appointment to investigate.
With the increased attention on the case — including coverage from johnny-come-lately ABC that needed to add a backstory section to get their readers up to speed — the White House and Department of Justice are fighting back, alleging that the growing scandal is nothing but a game of “gotcha” being played by Republicans:
“Here they go again. Chairman Issa and Senator Grassley can re-package and re-release the same documents every other day and it won’t change the facts: the attorney general’s testimony to both the House and Senate committees has been consistent and truthful,” the department said.
The department said the “brief” passages were “buried in a few written reports” and did not detail the full extent of the operation.
“Instead of peddling selectively edited transcripts and distorting questions and answers in some distracting political game of gotcha, these congressional leaders should be focusing their attention on the underlying public safety problem we confront as a nation — that too many guns are being illegally trafficked to Mexico,” the statement said.
It is worth noting: the documents being released are new; the information was not buried, but featured bullet points of weekly summary reports; and there were no “selectively edited” transcripts or “distorted questions.” The DOJ pushback seems rooted in political firefighting, not facts.
Even left-leaning NPR — which seems to doubt Holder’s truthfulness — reported the details of the key question and answer accurately:
At a hearing in March, California Republican Rep. Darrell Issa asked: “When did you first know about the program officially, I believe, called Fast and Furious? To the best of your knowledge, what date?”
Holder replied: “I’m not sure the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks.”
Texas Senator John Cornyn blasted President Obama’s forceful defense of his attorney general, claiming that the president was the “the only person left with any confidence” in Holder:
“It is difficult to believe that after memos were sent to his office, ATF officials briefed Congress on Fast and Furious and it was reported in the media, Mr. Holder still didn’t have knowledge of it, as he claims, for several months,” Cornyn, a San Antonio Republican, said in an emailed statement.
The worst news of the week for Holder and Obama may have come last night. Bill O’Reilly interviewed CBSNews investigative reporter Sharyl Attkisson, who has provided the most dogged mainstream media coverage of the administration’s gun-walking plots. O’Reilly asked Attkisson what caused a White House staffer to scream and curse at her several days ago. Her response left little doubt that more damning revelations are to come:
Well, I would say there have been some pretty incredible developments in the past week. Also, documents we haven’t even had time to report on all of them. They are very sensitive documents and allegations going around. Many of them we haven’t reported yet because we need to get more confirmation of them.
But what you see on the surface that we do report in our stories is really only a part of what may be going on and we may be reporting the future when we can get confirmation.
Attkisson may have been alluding to more evidence about Operation Fast and Furious, or perhaps about the nine other alleged gunwalking programs in five states which seem to have been implemented with the singularly practical purpose of getting thousands of weapons into the hands of criminals, both drug cartels and domestic gangs. Using Operation Fast and Furious as a baseline, it is reasonable to assume that if the other gunwalking operations were as productive, the U.S. may have run between 10,000 and 20,00o guns, enough weapons to outfit an entire U.S. Army infantry division.
If these numbers could be verified, it would prove that the Obama administration is the number one U.S. source of cartel guns.
As if things were not bad enough for the White House, Mike Vanderboegh — one of the bloggers who broke the original story linking ATF gunwalking to Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry’s death — has sources claiming “Obama’s man in the State Department,” (former) Deputy Secretary of State Jim Steinberg, was the State Department operative who helped Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and the Department of Justice Deputy Attorney General David Ogden formulate the strategy that led to the tactics used in Operation Fast and Furious.
And a follow-up story asserts what many have long suspected: that Gunwalker came about out of a desire to “pad” the Obama administration’s “90-pecent lie.”
If evidence can be obtained to support these contentions, then perjury is going to be the least of the worries for those involved. As Dave Gibson at the Examiner notes:
With the recent revelation that Attorney General Eric Holder knew about the ATF gun smuggling scheme as early as July 2010, which is nearly a year earlier than he claimed before Congress, the question becomes … Is Eric Holder an accomplice to Agent Brian Terry’s murder?
Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu recently pointed out: “If somebody gives a gun to somebody knowing they’re going to commit murder, guess what we call them? … We call them accomplices.”
It’s about time the LSM started taking notice of this criminal activity in the White House. This thing makes Watergate and Iran-Contra look like child’s play.
“Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu recently pointed out: ‘If somebody gives a gun to somebody knowing they’re going to commit murder, guess what we call them? … We call them accomplices.’ ” pffffft….another racist, I’m sure. This drip drip drip, splash splash splash of documents that has finally started in earnest is like the development of a skunk photo in the old darkroom: Yup. It’s a skunk. Everybody knew it because the stench has been around for months. But now….here’s the photo.
If CBS has any sense (and ABC is waking up?) this might be their opportunity to recover some reputation for investigative journalism, if they care to. Of course, it could be they are just positioning themselves to be loved by obama’s replacement, when the DNC gets around to putting their stamp of approval on some new tool.
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I like the skunk analogy. Very good. That describes it exactly. Unfortunately I think there is more to this than just padding the 90% lie. I suspect that was just the cherry on top for them. We will soon find out….
The Skunk and the skunked. Remove and fumigate. That is our responsibility as instructed by our Founding Fathers through our Foundation Documents. Our Oval Office has seen such evil men using it and us. Now the communist at the desk works to destroy our 2nd amendment and remove guns from Americans through his Gunwalker project in hand with destroying our sovereign border. Watch him alternate pointing/pounding at us and grinning as he orders politicians to vote for his jobs bill. They well know it is to fund construction of the road from Mexico to Canada and split the USA. Gunwalker is for the destruction of the 2nd Amendment part of that North American Union Agenda. Those Wall Street protesters better move on to our White House and clean house. They have been misdirected.
If you look at Obummer in a medical sense, he has become the gangrenous appendage of the Democratic Party. Democrats have done everything they can in the past to try and save the infected appendage. They are now realizing that if the limb is not amputated it will infect the whole body and destroy it. The smell is becoming so strong they can no longer ignore it. Conservatives smelled the rot even before the election but their diagnosis was ignored. It now appears the infection has spread to Eric Holder, Janet Napolitano and numerous other members of the Obummer administration. The smell is far worse than a skunk.
O’bwana’s administration is exactly what you’d expect, based on Coalman Young, Robert Mugabe, or Idi Amim Dada.
TREASON
• Violation of allegiance toward one’s country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one’s country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.
• A betrayal of trust or confidence.
Read more: http://www.answers.com/topic/treason#ixzz1QsLrbdUd
ORAN’S DICTIONARY OF THE LAW (1983) DEFINES TREASON AS “…[A]…CITIZEN’S ACTIONS TO HELP A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT OVERTHROW, MAKE WAR AGAINST, OR SERIOUSLY INJURE THE [PARENT NATION].” IN MANY NATIONS, IT IS ALSO OFTEN CONSIDERED TREASON TO ATTEMPT OR CONSPIRE TO OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT, EVEN IF NO FOREIGN COUNTRY IS AIDED OR INVOLVED BY SUCH AN ENDEAVOUR.
SEDITION IN LAW, SEDITION IS OVERT CONDUCT, SUCH AS SPEECH AND ORGANIZATION, THAT IS DEEMED BY THE LEGAL AUTHORITY TO TEND TOWARD INSURRECTION AGAINST THE ESTABLISHED ORDER. SEDITION OFTEN INCLUDES SUBVERSION OF A CONSTITUTION AND INCITEMENT OF DISCONTENT (OR RESISTANCE) TO LAWFUL AUTHORITY. SEDITION MAY INCLUDE ANY COMMOTION, THOUGH NOT AIMED AT DIRECT AND OPEN VIOLENCE AGAINST THE LAWS. SEDITIOUS WORDS IN WRITING ARE SEDITIOUS LIBEL. A SEDITIONIST IS ONE WHO ENGAGES IN OR PROMOTES THE INTERESTS OF SEDITION.
High crimes and misdemeanors is a phrase from Section 4 of Article Two of the United States Constitution: “The President, Vice President and all civil officers of the United States, shall be removed from office on impeachment for, and conviction of, treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors.”
“High” in the legal parlance of the 18th century means “against the State”. A high crime is one which seeks the overthrow of the country, which gives aid or comfort to its enemies, or which injures the country to the profit of an individual or group. In democracies and similar societies it also includes crimes which attempt to alter the outcome of elections.
God Bless You, American. May all Americans awake and stand with you in understanding Treason and our responsibility of quick reaction to it. The time is now.
I hope the Mexican government demands Holder be extradited there for trial as an accomplice to the 200 murders and counting…
Remember, when the enemy is in range, so are you. As much as I’d like to see Holder frog marched, you have to think about how Comrade Obama might react to, say, some much more enlightened than we European nation’s demand for Don Rumsfeld or Dick Cheney’s extradition.
What /specific/ charges do you think Rumsfeld and Cheney face?
Holder is vulnerable to specific criminal charges, not political show boating.
And, you say the Mexicans are “un-enlightened”? Exactly what is this you are claiming as “enlightened”?
Gee, I thought Mexicans became “enlightened” when the French beat feet back to Europe & Benito Juarez & his forces “removed” the Austrian from the throne in 1867.
As this worlds superpower, we don’t have to explain or do anything for anybody. We must do that which we believe to be right; without concern for the opinions of other nations.
Fortunately for Holder and others, if they are extradited to Mexico, there is no death penalty allowed by Mexican law. Of course, that doesn’t apply to the cartels who may object to these folks testifying and possibly turning states evidence.
Mexico WAS demanding Holder. Then the demand went away. By any amazing coincidence, right about the time the Obama Administration decided to stop enforcing the immigration laws by executive fiat…
CBS has evidence but it`s about Democrats. I await the first set of CBS heads to explode.
Far more likely the evidence will be shredded and burned. Anything else and they will turn 0 and H into a pair of pinatas.
“…..these congressional leaders should be focusing their attention on the underlying public safety problem we confront as a nation — that too many guns are being illegally trafficked to Mexico,”
That is precisely what they are doing. Obama is just wishing the fingers were pointing somewhere other than the white house.
True! What he forgot to add was “that too many guns are being illegally trafficked to Mexico” by the US Government!
“Arizona Senator John McCain is “leaning towards” demanding a special council appointment to investigate.”
This is more proof that McCain’s nomination in ’08 was a fix and a good thing he didn’t win. A demand for a special prosecutor is a no-brainer. Quit leaning Senator Maverick and do the right thing.
*GASP* I am holding my breath awaiting the moment that McLame springs into action. Or, swaps propping his chin up from his left to his right hand.
Our politicians cannot spring into action. It first has to be poll tested. If a group of government agents were actually selling illegal guns to gangs which resulted in the deaths of American Jews on an anniversary of Kristalnacht would they chain themselves to the doors of the DOJ or just discuss the idea of a special prosecutor? We don’t need no stinking special prosecutor! The sheriffs in the counties where this happened should start arresting some federal agents. Congressmen should go down to the DOJ with cameras and demand answers from people at the office. There is blood on the ground and our “leaders” are playing golf discussing the approach they should take. Be direct. Do the right thing. Get the criminals out of OUR offices! OR… primary and vote all that scum out of office in 2012! Republican and Democrat.
Yes, but where are we going to find an unbiased special prosecutor? Who is going to appoint him/her? I can see it now: Obama appoints a S.P. from Holder’s very corrupt DOJ.
McCain is useless as a senator, he’s a flip flopper and gets nothing accomplished here in AZ. He should just retire and collect his millions like the rest of the crooks in Washington
What I’d like to know is who inserted the funding for Gunwalker into the Stimulus bill all the way back in 2009? Just how long was this death dealing fiaco in the works?
http://www.allamericanblogger.com/16445/fast-and-furious-aka-gunwalker-funded-by-stimulus-bill/
Who put the dough in the stimulus bill so Obama could work on gun control “under the radar”? That would be Pelosi, Reid & the leftist groups who actually wrote the bill for Obama. They thought nobody would notice…& they didn’t! It’s another proud moment for all the Democrats & Republicans Snowe, Collins & Specter (gone though he be). The blood is on THEIR hands.
The Apollo Alliance wrote it, by and large. What’s truly incredible is that the chairman, Phil Angelides, is who was appointed by congress (Pelosi & Reid) to chair the Congressional Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission.
Okay, read that ooonnnneee more time. Did you just fall off the world? I know i did.
Fortunately, the whitewash (“in the end, it was our fallen human nature”) was challenged by a couple of the commission members. Look it up –it’s a significant scandal all in its own right, needs to be on the list from hell.
Hmm, twenty thousand AKA variants imported to Mexico the old fashion way by extrapolation. Of course, the 200 hundred or so known Mexican nationals that were killed with these weapons says nothing about the larger population of victims killed that were not traced by ballistics to those weapons, or to weapons left at the scene, or to victims killed by other methods but facilitated by those weapons. Could be a thousand more victims, could be five thousand more victims–er, cartel members. Given the status of the officials involved and the organizations they lead, I still wonder if this is not a recycled Iran Contra type operation to assist a corrupt but on the ropes Mexican government that would claim plausible deniability when the ca-ca hit the fan. It’s kind of the Western Hemispheric version of stepped up drone strikes in Pakistan where we kill the enemy since we can’t capture them, and we get to forgo increasing the population at Gitmo too. After all, why capture them when the rule of law is pretty much history in Mexico?
Holder might well have a dossier on Zero set aside as a ‘get out of jail free’ card – AKA a pardon. We’ll have to wait for things to be clear to Holder first – if he can find sufficient fall-guys he won’t have to ask/pressure Zero for that pardon I’m sure has already been talked about between them. I’d much rather see Holder’s ‘Zero files’ than anything Issa has against Holder.
Of course I’d like to see them all.
I wonder what Holder could possibly have on Obama that would compare with what the American public knows about Holder right now.
Obama chose Holder because he was known to be corrupt…the incompetence as a lawyer was just a side benefit.
Someone please tell Juan McCain to butt out. He is sure to cock up anything he gets his paws on. With his record he will make deals, seek common ground, and wind up turning on those who want Holder out. A special prosecutor will only serve to STOP THE FLOW OF INFORMATION. It will be a Godsend to Obama and his gang. There will be a stonewalling all under the excuse of this being a special prosecution blah blah.. NO. No special prosecutor. Let the whole thing unravel for the next year UP UNTIL THE ELECTION. Then two to three days prior to the 2012 presidential election, release the headline that a special prosecutor has been appointed to investigate fraud and corruption in the OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. That is how the left would play it and we should stop being a bunch of goody two shoes and get down and dirty with the best of them. McCain is a quisling and can be relied upon to stick a shiv in the right. Screw him.
McCain is the Jimmy Carter of the Republican Party. Trade your huge bargaining chip for a few meaningless concessions and act like you are the negotiator extraordinaire. Jimmy holds the record for bargaining away every clear advantage the US had in every negotiation. McCain appears that he would have made a run for the record had he been elected.
Why do I feel like the few snowballs and pebbles that have been rolling down the hill are about to be followed by the whole side of the mountain? This is going to be huge.
Given enough time for the damage control crew to hide evidence coupled with expected court delay we may not live long enough to appreciate the event amid the inevitable violence looming with a revolutionary mob. Honor died with dueling for most and TV media ignores the survivors. Perhaps declining audience share has finally aroused the attention of CEOs in the flailing media disorganization.
I didn’t know that the Attorney General lying before Congress while under oath was now considered a game of “gotcha.” Holder is going down, probably within the next few months. This story seems to be getting bigger and bigger and somebody in authority approved this mess. That “somebody” had to be at least Holder, if not Obama and Clinton too. The only question now is, is Janet Napolitano going down with Holder? Could be, given all the new information that’s coming out.
Snowballs before the avalanche. I like that. Four months ago when I really started following Fast and Furious my husband said it will never go anywhere.
He said the same thing when Anthony Weiner was first accused of being “inappropriate” online. Then came the proof that the guy in the underwear was indeed him. Husband said, “well, it’s bad , but Congress will just support him and it’ll blow over.”
Then came the money shot. Weiner’s weenie unbound in all it’s glory!
Holder’s underwear is starting to show…I can be patient.
I’m stocking up on popcorn.
The avalanche has already started. it is too late for the pebbles to vote
That has got to be my favorite quote from the entire B5-verse. I use it often with my kids, but it’s well-suited for more profound situations. Nice one!
Good for Attkisson! I guess the time that passed while CBS made her “unavailable” was time well-spent sifting through the information before starting to run with it. Also, it’s interesting that she went on O’Reilly to talk about this. There’s no way CBS would have associated with such an “undesirable” network and persona if they didn’t have a great deal to gain in the long run- like maybe a Pulitzer. Journalists still care about that, don’t they?
Maybe on the back of Holder’s orange jumpsuit will be inmate #666.
Why hasn’t Mexico made more of a stink about this? It’s their citizens, by and large, who are being slaughtered by Obama’s guns. Could it be that the Mexican government is so invested in a socialist USA that it’s willing to allow it’s own citizens to be murdered for that purpose?
At least one prominent Mexican, their AG, has but it’s hard to say who is listening.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/40803
People in the highest levels of our government intentionally smuggle guns to our neighbor to the south, which results in a spree of violence claiming at least 200 known deaths, then use the resulting carnage as a pretext to neuter the Second Amendment to the Constitution.
Then…
PROFIT!
How long is it going to be before Holder is judged by the content of his character?
Excellent question….but as I understand, contrary to MLK’s original notion, we are no longer allowed to judge Holder or his people by the content of their character, especially when their character stinks, because then that’s racist. See how that works? (If you do, ‘splain it, please)
The Obama DOJ has updated CONTENT OF HIS CHARACTER & replaced it with the more “socially just” QUANTITY OF HIS MELANIN.
Nine other “operations” in five cities. It’ll be interesting as more comes out on that. There’ve been a couple stories already about some of these guns showing up in the hands of US gangs. If a couple of those cities turn out to be a long way from the Mexican border, with guns to US gangs, the story of trying to use this to justify gun control here will become much more viable. A few documents in support and the sh*t will really hit the fan.
I know some knee-jerk union democrats who just might take that kind of a manuever very personally, which could make the election very interesting.
Would the Dems be smart enough to join in the outrage, dump TheWon, and limit the losses? I doubt it.
Giving it some more thought, I predict it’s going to get ugly. The presidential pardon powers are absolute, except for impeachments, and offenses committed in a foreign country. The pardon’s will happen after the election, mainly so congress cannot hold hearings and interrogate the pardoned before the elections. Of course, the pardoned will still be subject to Mexican criminal indictments, and prosecution after extraditions to Mexico. Again, presidential pardons are only applicable to offenses against the United States, not offenses against the people of Mexico. Since some of these people are lawyers, the best and the brightest, you would think they would know better.
I’ve always thought of Sen. McCain as the Manchurian candidate.
Holder should be sent to Mexico to stand trial there. After all, those guns were used to kill quite a few Mexicans. I find it vwery hard to believwe that even the most fervent Democrat would think Holder is doing a good job.
isn’t it odd how it just so happens that arming an army, ‘just as well trained and well equipped as the U.S. military’ would be required to enforce his vision for this country, was campaign talk; and, then it looks like he tries to do it?
don’t i remember every time people complain about the ‘obiwon’ doing this or that, his supporters are always quick to tell everybody that is exactly what he said he was going to do during his campaign? why be surprised? remember? this shows how smart ‘obiwon’ is. he is doing exactly what he said. how many times have we all heard that one? i believed, finally. his supporters convinced me long ago he was playing by a script; but, now that too is just a fabrication?
then there is that small arms treaty hitlery has been working on in the u.n. for the past couple/three years. she ain’t been doing it for her health, i’m sure. it was finally starting to get some traction, if only there were a good reason to push it on the American public. a sort of a one-two punch, with this as the back-up plan in case they lose in the s.c.
and that crack he made to the whacky brady bunch about having something on gun control going on under the radar was made just after he had his gun grab (fail) handed back to him by the supreme court. wasn’t it about this same time it was being made public on the net that the 90% U.S. gun supply to cartels crap he and hitlery (and others) were spouting was bogus, more like 17%? hmmm. need some more serious guns guys? here, we’ll pay. another coincidence?
also, if it is true, isn’t it very strange one of these gun handouts was going to Honduras? the very democratic country whose system of justice was modeled after our own, and the country he tried to illegally install the legally deposed x-prez back into office and illegally on the ballot just prior to the election. always thought that move a couple or so years ago (totally unreported btw) to be very strange.
and then there is that reported inside the U.S. handout/handoff to druggie bad guys in obi’s homie turf? what the frack is that all about?
dam, you guys are right. this is getting sticky. hand me some of that popcorn.
Erik Holder saw nothing, he heard nothing, he knows nothing. He was not there. He has not even gotten up any morning since January, 2009. He doesn’t even recall who the U.S. Attorney General is, nor does he know where Mexico is.
Crimes have been committed, by citizens. We do not need more “stern memo’s” from politicians, we need a legal system person to do their job and file charges. People are dying while the wh@#$@ in DC write memos. GBA and RICO all banksters, their wh@#$ politicians and the current DOJ.
Play it again, folks, play it again. President ZoBama, “Under My Bus”. Make up some new verses to update. ‘Down to me! Change has come! They’re under my bus! Ah, ah ain’t that right, babe!’
Everyone seems to have forgotten the statements made by Hillary in March 2009 .. That ” The US has failed in stemming the flow of illegal weapons into Mexico and most 90% of the weapons used in cartel crime are from US Gun Dealers” This was BIG NEWS.. We have to wonder who fed these “facts” to Our Fair lady .. Can we assume that Hillary wasn’t speaking with junior ATF Field Agents? U.S. to blame for much of Mexico’s violence. IE: Mar 25, 2009 – MEXICO CITY (Reuters) – An insatiable appetite in the United States for illegal … Mexico, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Wednesday. … Our inability to prevent weapons from being illegally smuggled across the …And…The U.S. Guns In Mexico’s Drug War – World Watch – CBS News Mar 26, 2009 – Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, on a visit to Mexico, said Wednesday that America’s inability to prevent weapons being smuggled across the …The Skunk Photo anolgy is applicable but it took two years to develop.
“…with the singular practical purpose of getting thousands of weapons into the hands of criminals, both drug cartels and domestic gangs.”
Janet Napolitano, while governor of Arizona, was heavily in favor of gun control. Now we learn this program was hatched, with her fingerprints on it, with Mr. Steinberg-the author.
So, if Homeland Security, responsible for securing USA’s borders was actively violating their Oath of Office, what are we to make of other “accomplices,” yet unnamed in Mr. Obama’s government?
Secondly, “into the hands of criminals, both drug cartels and domestic gangs! One imagines local law enforcemnt confronting violent neighborhoods infested with Crips/Bloods type organizations, armed with 50 caliber automatic weapons fruits of “Fast and Furious.”.
Or another scenario, Hell’s Angels’ world wide reach into every illicit drug related, sex slave trade, prostitution, wanton murder, rape and pillaging, all armed and trading these heavy caliber automatic weapons (now worldwide). After all, Hells Angels has been designated by ATF as an international criminal organization. What’s that tell our neighbors to the South? And what about Hells Angels ongoing fracas with Warlocks in Canada? HUH? Not too much friendly relations their either.
Mr. Obama, Axelrod and Holder are engaged in wanton criminal behaviour all aimed at fomenting outrage at We The People’s US Constitution’s Second Amendment…this troika will stop at nothing to usurp the US Constitution, Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights.
We The Elite People’s nefarious agenda at “gaming” Our beloved USofA is being revealed to We The People for what it is…massive fraud and corruption on a scale never before seen in These United States.
Vote this 2012 because massive fraud and corruption as never before seen in Our beloved USA will befall these critical elections. If this isn’t proof of the “Chicago Machine’s” way of governing, We The People will surely suffer under a second Obama mandate. God Bless America. Cain Can
Seriously? 10-20 THOUSAND? No wonder obumble told sarah brady that gun control was in the works but under the table! Some things seem more cleare and more insightful while provoking a picture of a massively deceptive administration. That holder says he was truthful and accurate does NOT mean “the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. That premise is what “lawyerspeak” is all about. That obumbler said this week he believes holder is only reinforcement (to me at least) that his statement was meant to tell holder to take the plea and save me.
It is known that this was a multi-Federal agency endeavor and therefore someone high enough up in each agency had to approve the illegal actions, before the lower level actors could act. It also means that someone with oversight of all the agencies involved had to provide the direction to each agency to authorize them to break the law.
We already have seen that the BATF manager, in direct disobedience to orders from Justice, gave testimony to Congress, most likely to describe his level of responsibility, and to make sure he is not a fall guy, as it appears Justice will try to do to some. With as wide spread as this, and its like operations appear to be, there will be many who feel some liability and will want to make sure the whole record is straight, in a similar way. This is all to the good for those of us looking for an end to this kind of thoughtless unlawfulness.
There is only one reason to push this investigation forward. That is to determine all who are responsible for knowingly allowing the guns to keep walking, and therefore are incriminated in both the American and the many Mexican deaths. How can our President go on knowing how many deaths occurred due to these operations, and not tell the American people how it happened and to at least apologize to the Mexican people. If the President does not know what happened and who is responsible, he should be impeached. Remember where the buck stops.
Of course Impeachment is applicable to a President of the USA. This guy is not a legitimate President. Papa was either the Kenyan subject of the UK and that means he wasn’t eligible from the get-go or the family friend poet author organizer who worked Chicago’s southside way before Obama, and was very close with Obama and influenced him greatly. Obama looks just like him and he well could be the real papa, which would have given O his USA citizenship but would have crushed him because papa was a commie and so was mommie. He was not born in the USA and has forged birth certificates and hidden documents proving he was admitted to our universities under Foreign Student aid. His mama was obviously a communist which means not loyal to the USA. So, what can be done with him… and we must include those who have plotted and planned his political career. No matter what we do with him, and we will have justice, we absolutely must identify and punish the rich and powerful brazen one-world thugs who set him up.
As much as I want to see Obama go down in flames, the thought of the US purposely leaking up 20,000 guns to the cartels makes me sick to my stomach.
Just remember who did it and why. And also remember when Captain Zero said “working on gun control under the radar” http://nation.foxnews.com/guns/2011/05/25/obama-were-working-gun-control-under-radar Which is undoubtedly a DIRECT reference to Fast & Furious. He HAD TO KNOW. The problem is proving it. But, just like the petulant child he is who thinks he’s put one over on “the rubes”, he just couldn’t keep his mouth shut.
Indeed, I would imagine that playing poker with this clown is boring, except that you can take all his money; And quickly at that. His “bluffs” are really huge “tells” and his “clever” maneuvering is really a dead giveaway to his real intention. All one must do is watch.
But the purpose of F&F was to try to lay the blame for all gun crime in America at the feet of legitimate gun retailers as they tracked guns that were sold illegally to drug cartels.
Making a point, by breaking the law, is, well, illegal. It’s a cop who robs a guy at gunpoint to make the point, “You shouldn’t be carrying so much cash…it’s dangerous….so to prove the point, I’m gonna show you by stealing it at gunpoint.”
Which, naturally leaves the victim dumbfounded. This is a clear case of their thinking “the ends justifies the means” but of course, just imagine how they excoriated the Reagan administration of Iran/Contra. It went on for weeks/months/years. The media would not let it die and, on the face of it, it was much less egregious than F&F, which was SOLELY assembled and put into motion, in spite of experienced law enforcement officials pointing out its failed premise and especially that it was very dangerous, in order to undermine the right to bear arms in this nation.
You see, when dealing with ideologues, one must remember they are usually desperate and since they see things a certain way, they cannot understand or interpret where their plans are flawed. From welfare for “the poor” to this false hope of a society without arms, they fail to acknowledge reality. The marxists buy into their utopian ideas because with an acquiescent, unarmed public, control of the people is much, much easier. Europe is the stellar example. But the Soviet Union is the model.
In both cases, however, look how much easier it is to pass a law and enforce it when the government knows that the people have no way of avoiding it. They have been ratcheting up state control ever since the end of WW II; An illustrative irony in its own right. Preventing that from happening here, is the citizens own a large number of guns. Only now, though, with a marxist occupying the white house, is it readily apparent and there’s no shame in their admission they want to take our guns away, thus clearing a path to full rule from the government.
But it’s never about the people, except that we stand in their way. They do not believe they govern at the whim of the people who elected them; They believe they are in power and now that they have it, they want to keep it. Thus, they want all your money, all your property and all your rights.
It’s the ultimate “king of the pile” game and we have some real duesies there. Reid, Pelosi, Frank, Dodd, McCain, Boehner, and so many more who are ruling class elites” http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the
They are the people who have now gotten themselves situated on their thrones and that insular world they occupy is a pathetic testimony to how little they care about the people who put them there. They do not listen, they do not follow the rules of law, they couldn’t care less. They’re set. Screw you.
It’s evident in all but a select few in DC. The rest of those who want to get elected do so, not to serve, but to be part of the party…the cool gang, the social high-hats. And then it’s “look at me…ain’t I sumpin’?”
You can easily…and I noticed this watching the series “ROME”….easily replace all of the Roman players with people in today’s US government and there would be no difference. None.
The wanton, craven lot that is our government is laced with pathetic losers who may be rich, may have power but they are bankrupt of any compassion and sense of reality. Their reality is not your and my reality. They look at us as from afar; In the distance and speculate on moving pieces as on a chessboard, thinking they are masters of their universe.
I have no tolerance for those who revel in politics. It’s the worst of human behaviors. Not a single straight-talker in the bunch and their only other career choice was obnoxious sales pitchmen for Ginsu knives or Sham-Wow demos.
Maybe some day I’ll tell you how I really feel.
Oh here we go again with the fake political outrage, and then they sprinkle in WE HAVE MORE EVIDENCE and KNOW WHO PLANNED FAST AND FURIOUS. Stay tuned for the next episode of POLITICAL OUTRAGE, brought to you by true red, white and blue politicians!
Oh here we go again with the bad punctuation and fake TOO-MANY CAPS outrage. Give the trollery a rest.This a real scandal wherein people died.
I may have poor punctuation, but you my friend missed the whole point of what I am saying. You experts need us to make you feel superior in your writing abilities which change century to century. Sorry my writing ability does not meet your standards!
Thank you once again Mr. Owens for another ‘finger on the pulse of the action’ article! I find it amazing that in every attempt at clarification and exposure of the corrupt actions of the O man and his associates – some ‘Richard Cranium’ thinks that by using copious caps and Progressive thought patterns there has been the establishment of ‘my genius over a competently written article.’
Wake up Skippy – your people are dangerously close to being dealt with by real justice – the kind distributed by the ‘Great Unwashed!’
HOW LONG DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR PAPERS BE SERVED ON HOLDER? ”I SEE THE WALLS COMING DOWN FROM MY HOUSE” WHAT GETS ME IS NAPOLITANO WILL GO DOWN WITH THEM,
THE MORE INVOLVED THE BETTER AS THEY WILL RAT EVERY ONE OUT. THIS IS DEEP SHIT, AND WHEN OBAMA GETS NAMED, THATS OUR ”HOPE & CHANGE..
GOD BLESS ALL, GOD BLESS THE U.S.A. KEEP THE FAITH ITS GOING TO BE ROUGH, BUT IT WILL BE OK.
weep and cry…
“Using Operation Fast and Furious as a baseline, it is reasonable to assume that if the other gunwalking operations were as productive, the U.S. may have run between 10,000 and 20,00o guns, enough weapons to outfit an entire U.S. Army infantry division.
If these numbers could be verified, it would prove that the Obama administration is the number one U.S. source of cartel guns.”
If this is true then there will be more blood spilled in the near future…
Truly sad and frightening…
question: how long has this been going on?
It appears Holders role model is Augustus J. Calhoun.But who is the role model for the nincompoops who voted Oshambo into office? Maybe: Idi Amin, Mao, Fidel?
The electorate turned the USA over to the Mystic Knights Of The Sea and now wonders what went wrong.It wouldn’t have worked with Lum and Abner, either.
We need virtuous, educated, experienced men in high position, and virtue triumphs all other qualifications. Babykilling sodomists are not, by definition, virtuous.