Gunwalker: Did Bush Walk Guns, Too?
Considering we have email evidence supporting one version of events and self-serving anonymous sources telling us about the other, it is rational to suspect that Yost should have been diligent about acquiring evidence to support the source’s claims.
As for the congressional investigators, they are more than willing to look at any evidence that the Obama administration will turn over regarding Operation Wide Receiver, but the Justice Department has so far refused to turn over documentation relating to that case, even though the House Oversight Committee subpoenaed them long ago.
CNN’s Anderson Cooper asked House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa about Wide Receiver last night:
Anderson Cooper: I’d always thought this was the first time this kind of a program had been tried. There are new revelations tonight coming out that the Bush administration had a similar weapons program, something called Operation “Wide Receiver.” Do you know about that? Do you think officials from that administration should be looked at, as well?
Rep. Darrell Issa: Well, Anderson, we’d know a lot more about it except that’s among the documents we’re still waiting to get. What we do know about “Wide Receiver” somewhat is very small amount of weapons, much more intensive following, but, in fact, we will get to the bottom of whether or not this practice in a smaller way may have begun on the Bush watch. We’re not putting it past any administration and giving anyone a pass. The American people and the people of Mexico expect us to have a zero tolerance for letting drugs come into our country or weapons go into Mexico.
Writing at Townhall, Katie Pavlich notes that Yost’s article is at this point quite suspect in claiming that the Bush-era DOJ used “the same tactic” of walking guns.
The current Department of Justice, including officials that have apparently lied under oath and have had to amend their testimony, are simply not credible without concrete evidence supporting their contentions, as they have sought to hide all evidence from Fast and Furious, Wide Receiver, and other gun-walking operations run under this administration.
It is past time for this administration to come clean.
Mr. President, tell your staff to stop attacking journalists seeking the truth. Tell your political appointees to stop obstructing justice. Appoint the special counsel the House Judiciary Committee has requested.
If you won’t, it is time for you to resign, as you are no longer abiding by your oath of office.
The AP claims to have found a rock on which the word, Gun, was written. That’s proof enough for them.
Snfffff, snffff, snfff something stinks here! The Obammmy admin is in deep doodoo up to their arse and they can’t shovel fast and furious enough to keep their aristocratic noses out of it! The “Pin it on Bush” tactic is a weak attempt at deflecting the scorching truth of the matter that will bring atty gen EH down and the Obammy admin with it. Can you say… accomplice to murder????
Actually, what they found was a wok.
The AP article is a riot of partisan hackery that sees this whole thing as a conflict between Republicans and Democrats. It’s a conflict between evil people and their victims. Let’s get to the bottom of Operation Wide Receiver.
http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/2011/06/operation-wide-receiver.html
Ah! The internet. What a lovely thing. For those who care to look. And analyse.
Why do you think the government needs to control it?
Thanks.
Blame Bush – the all purpose excuse for this administration. By all means release all the documents to Issa’s committe and let the chips fall where they may. I seriously doubt if it was official policy of the Bush Administration to “walk guns”, get people murdered, blame gun dealers in the US and use this as a pretext for more “gun control”. This MO is the hare-brained scheme of the Obama Administration alone. Obama himself flew off the handle while in Mexico and blamed “90%” of guns in Mexico on US dealers. His henchmen in DOJ and elsewhere took this as there que to manufacture their case for gun control. Is this what Obama was talking about when he told gun-control advocates that he was working on something “under the radar”?
If the Bush people did it too, then they can share a cell with the Obama people. I don’t care who broke the law, if they broke the law, they should go to jail.
I have some questions for the AP to investigate. Sarah Brady said that on 30 Mar 2011 the POTUS privately told her that gun control was very much on his agenda and “we have to go through a few processes, but under the radar”. Question #1 – By “under the radar” did he mean outside the knowledge of Congress, the Judiciary, the American public or the Mexican government? Question #2 – If these processes were legal and ethical why would they need to be kept “under the radar” at all?
Associated Press = Pravda.
I do like the premise that Bush was involved in “Walking guns”, simply because if that were true, Obama would have no excuse for why he continued the program.
Can we have an impeachment now? Knowing George Bush’s character, he’d confess and accept his punishment. Ya think Obama would? Heh!
(Get ready for the Obama riots, y’all).
The problem is government, in all its forms. The Founders knew this: they’d be flipping out at this stuff.
The reason they use the ATF is that they are the most corrupt, least loved police agency in government. Noone loves them. Shooting people who are no danger to anyone but themselves will never recommend you, in polite company. They are about to be sacrificed at the altar of politics. May God have mercy upon their souls. Or not.
Why do we even have an ATF? Because we tax two of those, which must be ruthlessly enforced, and mingle it with gns to make a statement for safety. No agency is more useless, more anti-constitutional, and more violent, than the ATF. Good riddance!
But, let’s fry us some before we do away with them all. If they help us to put the Obamites in jail, maybe we’ll let them become FBI. Or not.
I’ve been waiting for the Bush blame since this started. Its the go to line of this administration.
I too wondered how long it would take them to blame Bush. Good call.
At one time I though the AP was reliable. Silly me. They’re just as factually challenged as any of the other LSM. Also, I was surprised that a CBS news reporter (Sharyl Attkison) was coming up with scoops on FnF, and I expressed an opinion here and elsewhere that CBS might be doing penance for Rathergate. But now I read in the Weekly Standard that she in unavailable for interviews (h/t Drudge). If CBS news is silencing her, than I may have spoken too hastily.
i just watched fox news reporters on oreilly try to whitewash this whole thing. one said the a.g. is an honest man. both asked why would he want to lie? refusal to look at the real and entire reason(s) for this ‘operation’ puts blinders on to the truth, and
1. honest men don’t try to cover up ‘nothing’
2. honest men (especially honest court officers) don’t refuse to enforce laws equally (nbp)
3. honest men don’t redact documents and obfuscate potential criminal investigations, as is being done
4. honest men don’t try to destroy our country from within
5. honest men don’t try to blame everybody else
6. honest folks don’t scream at reporters (about nothing) and apply pressure to not cover the story
7. honest reporters don’t refuse to cover stories because of personal preferences
and honest men don’t need to hide their entire very questionable history, do they obiwon?
these obamanites have got lots of people fooled, which sadly doesn’t appear to be too hard to do.
GET OFF THE RACIST “FAST AND FURIOUS” NONSENSE! Don’t you idiot neocons realize how racist this all makes you look? In fact, ignore that advice…keep it up! I can see how this one went down: Dick Cheney, George Bush, the Koch twins, and that corporate stoogie Betty Crocker got together in a room somewhere and schemed. “How can we make this negro president look bad? Oh, we’ll make a big deal out of a nothing story, because people associate inner-city blacks with guns. That’s the ticket!”. Right, dream on. Might as well have cooked up some other crock…how about these fanatsies: “Operation Midnight Kools”, or how about “Operation Malt Liquor”…or “Operation Out-of Wedlock”…..or “Operation My Baby’s Daddy”…or “Operation Where’s Popeye’s Chicken At?”…..or “Opertion Big Black Dong”…right. Keep it up racists…you’re showing your true colors. Oh, and thank you Sarah Palin…4 MORE YEARS!
This is so ridiculous, that it’s almost funny.
It’s partisan – sure it is. But racist? You’re a nut job.
Either a parody or someone’s been smokin’ and inhalin’.
I never inhaled!
‘I can see how this one went down: Dick Cheney, George Bush, the Koch twins, and that corporate stoogie Betty Crocker got together in a room somewhere and schemed. “How can we make this negro president look bad?’
ROTFL
That one cracked me up.
Are you raving?
Hey “LovelyEarth”;
The race industry you are working for ain’t gettin’ a bailout. You might as well give it up. And when you lose 60% of your ignorance, the earth will be a lot more lovely.
Make it easy on yourself, and just grow up.
LovelyEarth, I think I love you.
It is so fun to read comments from racist liberals. The simple fact that they see racism behind every door proves they are raced obsessed, and therefore racist. Lovelyearth, seek help. Or just put down the crackpipe.
“light-skinned” appearance and speaking patterns “with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.” Harry Reid.
Is this the “negro” you type of #12?
Did Bush walk guns,too?
Probably not. The Bush administration wasn’t trying to shut down 2nd amendment rights. As I recall, under Bush, CCW laws were loosened significantly. His administration wasn’t filled with anti gun zealots and communist party faithfuls, like this one, whose entire lives have been spent in pursuit of voiding the Constitution even if it means one little piece at a time.
Of course, we’ll have to wait to see if the AP can actually manufacture convincing ‘evidence’ out of thin air, first.
Bush didn’t do anything regarding CCWs on the federal level either way.
The push for more liberal CCW laws is at the state level and was happening for years prior to Bush.
Yes I suppose Bush did it to. Also let us not forget that Bill Clinton gave the order to murder 80 people at Waco. 20 of which were innocent children.
I’ve often thought of that moment.
I watched it unfold on TV, I was, unfortunately, 1,000 miles away at the time. Had I been there my reaction would have been to take up my deer rifle and start killing those government agents dressed in black.
I told my wife that day,,, “you are witnessing the death of America”. I wasn’t wrong.
One MAJOR difference:
“The problem is, the “same tactic” under heavy criticism by the House Oversight Committee was not used under President Bush. Operation Fast and Furious started in Fall 2009 and was an offshoot of the Project Gunrunner program implemented under the Bush Administration. Project Gunrunner started as a pilot program in Laredo, Texas and went national in 2006. Project Gunrunner involved the surveillance of straw purchasers buying weapons, but those purchasers were immediately apprehended before crossing back into Mexico or tranferring arms to dangerous criminals.”
“…the key difference between Operation Fast and Furious under Obama and Project Gunrunner under Bush is that under Obama guns were allowed to go back into Mexico without interdiction or arrests.”
http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2011/10/04/ap_story_leaves_out_key_point_on_fast_and_furious
Any little kid caught in the act of doing something they know they aren’t supposed to be doing will immediately yell, “He did it too!”.
If Bush was involved he should also stand trial just like obama and holder!
Oh Lovely Earth how do you stand to view a mirror – ‘not bright’ must just bounce back at you with gusto!
And you really pissed me off when you called my favorite cook Betty Crocker a ‘stoogie’ – besides ‘corporate stooge’ would have worked better for you. Funny – I never thought of Aunt Jemima as a ’corporate stooge – she just poured a reasonable blend of syrup.
I did live in South Africa for a while – a place where your President O would still be classed as ‘colored’ by the black Government – some fear factor is still raised about the colored South Africans getting better jobs than their black brothers – isn’t the race card an evil thing!
Your president is doing the bidding of his handlers and promoting the racial and class warfare that helped lift him from a Chicago curbside setting – to where he squirms today – the White House.
And Lovely – ‘Fast and Furious’ and other Progressive programs like it are any thing but ‘nonsense’ – they would – if left unchecked most likely be the death of many of your friends – even Betty Crocker and Jemima would suffer.
Right now is a good time to compare shooting of your mouth with stepping off of a curb – in both situations thinking first can save you from an accident – try it !
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