Gunwalker: Justice Department Tampering with Witnesses?
The other letter sent to Holder names the people the committee says it knows for a fact had knowledge about Operation Fast and Furious. Of the 12 names on the list, there are a couple of particular interest. One is Lanny Breuer, former special counsel to President Bill Clinton and current assistant attorney general for the Criminal Division. Another is Deputy Assistant Attorney General Kenneth Blanco.
PJMedia has heard from sources that since DOJ’s attempt to make Acting ATF Director Ken Melson the fall guy failed when he turned King’s Evidence, DOJ is now planning to make Blanco the sacrificial lamb.
A third name of extreme interest: Gary Grindler, Eric Holder’s chief of staff.
It’s a bit difficult to believe that Holder’s chief of staff knew about this operation, but Holder didn’t.
Issa and Grassley are demanding all communications records between the 12 relating to Operation Fast and Furious.
It’s becoming increasingly difficult for Holder to claim — as he has all along – that he didn’t know about the operation until it blew up in his face. Issa and Grassley must keep pounding away until the guilty parties are hauled before a federal grand jury – the country owes Brian Terry and Jamie Zapata nothing less.
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Mr. Holder needs to go. I could wax poetically about all the reasons why he should be gone, but it’s much simpler just to state the obvious – Mr. Holder needs to go. He doesn’t represent the broad interests of all Americans and for that, there’s only one solution – he needs to go.
He needs to be indicted for his numerous transgressions.
Otherwise, he’ll just go back to being a partner at Covington and Burling and make at least 15x what he makes today.
Maybe I’m light on the 15x.
Mr. Holder, does the word “kablooie” mean anything to you?
That Mr. Holder and the Justice Deparment, can get away with such obvious criminal breaches of the law, shows that not only is this a lawless administration, but that there are no checks and balances holding the government accountable.
“Of the 12 names on the list, there are a couple of particular interest. One is Lanny Breuer, former special counsel to President Bill Clinton and current assistant attorney general for the Criminal Division.” That name just stuck in my head so I googled it. Guess what I found.
Lanny Breuer was also the defense attorney for former Clinton National Security Advisor, Sandy Berger. Berger pleaded guilty for removing and destroying 4 documents from the National Archives in 2003; to protect his former boss, Bill Clinton. This won’t be the first time Breuer has seen someone get thrown under the bus.
What’s even more interesting is: part of Berger’s sentence was “denial to any access of National Security documents for 3 years“. I digress….the point here is Lanny Breuer, former special counsel to President Bill Clinton and current assistant attorney general for the Criminal Division of the United States Department of Justice; Eric Holder’s lap boy.
Was Breuer paid off with another Federal job, in the Obama Administration, for defending the former Clinton Administration’s National Security Advisor? And when Obama and Holder do throw him under the bus….will he get yet another government pensioned job?
All these criminals are repeatedly profiting from their enterprises at the expense of taxpayers. Doesn’t that fall under the RICO statutes for criminal prosecution?
Holder needa to go alright! He needs to go to prison for a very long time.He can have a nice cell with all the latest accomadations.Gym equipment to keep himself extra buff. I’m sure he’ll find plenty of willing gents who will want to be his Butt buddies. Next will need to be any ATF, FBI, NSA, Homeland Security,and State Dept. people who were involved. Murder charges, conspiracy to violate God knows how many laws, US as well as Mexicos, International, Sharia, you name it! Perhaps Treason? Execution for treason has’nt happened here in a long time. It might be time to restart the practice to remind our citizens that there is a price to pay for this sort of EVIL!
The painfully slow process in Congress and the tiny but growing media presence in this case is very frustrating; but whenever the big news breaks and Holder is either asked to or forced to step down, and other members of the administration resign, it will be all the sweeter.
Again, watching this scandal unfold is like watching someone paint by numbers. We already know what is going on and what happened and why, the emerging evidence is just the coloring between the lines.
“Mr. Holder needs to go.”…..to JAIL.
This project is worse than Watergate and Iran/contra combined. We need to know how high this project (and the other alleged projects in Miami and Dallas) goes, and the people responsible need to go to prison (and I don’t mean Club Fed). If POTUS was in on this, he needs to be impeached and imprisoned forthwith.
Fast and Furious/Gunwalker was a breach of the oath that all these government officials took to protect and defend the Constitution. It was not a law enforcement operation, it was an attempt to fabricate data as a means of subverting our Second Amendment rights.
Will the Global Marxists come for Jeeps, and hammers next? Jeeps, and hammers kill, not people.
Big Bob: Fixing your post:
Mr. Holder needs to go TO JAIL…in Mexico.
Point taken. I was trying emphasize my agreement with #1 Martin in his comments. And yes, I would love to see how he would fare in Mexico. I don’t even know if they have a Dept of Justice!!??
@ 7 Robert
Does anyone have any contacts in Mexico, friends of the bereaved say,
who could start a civil/class action case against Holder et al?
Especially Buraq et al.
There will be no jail time for anyone involved. If nobody has gone to prison over the housing bubble, and the attending massive foreclosure fraud, then nobody will do jail time for this, either.
Rule of law is history, people. Relying on the system to fix itself is a false hope.
Good point. Frank, Johnson and Raines for openers should have gone to jail or at least been humiltated instead Frank got re-elected, and Johnson and Raines became millionares with the blessing of such luminaries as the People of Massachusetts and Maxine “we’ll socialize you” Waters and most of the Democratic party.
A difference in the Fast/Furious incident is that the corruption in mortgagegate was so wide spread from government to the public sector there really wasn’t any place to get traction and congress was too busy covering there ass to indict anyone else.
Lots of people got killed with Fast and Furious and I believe it can be proven that this was not about drugs, but rather about a politcal issue i.e., gun control and it was entirely an inside job set up from the highest levels of current administration. This is absolutely a great comparison to watergate and Iran-contra. I’m not so sure it will be that easy to slither out of this one as Obama and his cronies have done up til now. Albeit, I think Obama is too good at shedding blame to personally end up in the jaws of justice.
Don’t know Mark, you may be right, but I’m thinking with enough investigation and a Special Prosecutor this thing should be able to get traction and at the minimum be a never ending annoyance and maybe more. If we could throw out Holder and a few of Obama’s cronies in the DOJ, ATF, Homeland, etc. it would be a great embarrassment/humiliation for him and one more nail in his re-election coffin. If it can keep Obama talking out of three sides of his mouth for the next year and a half that would be nice even if no one goes to jail.
Amazing what you get when you appoint a political operative to be your Attorney General. Obama needs to go and that will take care of this Holder and his buddies. These clowns pushed this program to create a bad situation that they could blame on gun stores. But surprise attack, they didn’t guess that some of the guns would come back across our border. If they weren’t empowering drug running gangs to commit more mayhem, this would be just another laughable government waste of our tax dollars.
Actually, when you arm criminals, it would be a forgone conclusion that they would have to be dealt with North of the border. In fact, some of the BATFE “walked” firearms are showning up in crime scenes inside the United States. It is more so that the political class elitists behind operation Fast and Furious are not of the state of mind to be concerned with mere gangs and mayem as they relate to citizens. To them the ends justify the means.
We can expect Holder to start wearing mirrored sunglasses any day. Who DO you turn to when the Sheriff and prosecutor are crooked?
If Confederate Yankee’s brief analysis of Kenneth Blanco is correct, I can’t imagine why he would take the fall.
Flip Blanco flip!
And this case will educate the future generations of conservatives.
Marxism 101: the Chief Law Enforcement Officer of the Country armed the drug cartels of Mexico.
The drip by drip process might actually be a blessing. Between now and 11/6/12 there is plenty of time to peel off the layers of obstruction and deceit on the part of the DOJ. Tampering with witnesses? I certainly hope so. Destroying evidence? I certainly hope so. The longer they stonewall the worse they will look in the end. Would it not be sweet timing to see this go viral late summer 2012 just in time to explode in the headlines and flummox and bog down BHO’s campaign? The guy can’t take the heat in the budget negotiations, imagine how he’ll behave when his buddy Holder and other top alphabet soup officials of his misadministration are squirming on CSPAN and the MSM can no longer ignore the evidence. BHO better hike up the springs on that bus in order to make room for Holder and the rest of the cabal.
Somewhere, just before the November elections I read some quote from Darrell Issa that he had some very big investigations to open when the Republican congress conviened in Jan. Keeping that in mind as I watch the details about Fast and Furious dribble out, I get the feeling that the Republicans finally have a solid plan to defeat Obama once and for all. Gunwalker started being discussed by Issa and Grasley in Feb. but now we know that ATF agents have been blowing whistles since 2009. At first we were talking about the field office in Pheonix but now discover operations in Dallas, Houston and also operation Castaway in Tampa. That along with the tasty tidbit that there are LOTS of field agents itching to testify. The media will try and hide from this story as it slowly unfolds but once an independant prosecutor is named, they will reluctantly have to cover the story….along with trying to explain why they were so late to the party (think John Edwards mistress and love child). This thing will be death by a thousand cuts to the Obama administration and should stretch out ’til the worst comes out in fall 2012! Let’s just enjoy the ride.
Here’s to hoping that you are correct, and I’d like to see a little jail time for some members of the DOJ in the meantime as well and then finally Holder not only out of office but in jail for accessory to murder!
Justice, Homeland Security and State Depts all involved. No way, at a minimum, that the White House wasn’t getting Reports. Classified Reports require a signature to read; presentations, an attendance list.
Extradite Holder! I thought the Obama administration was in love with international laws?
Can we all just quit pretending we don’t know exactly what has happened here? Obama’s DOJ attempted to make it look like the lie that American guns were arming Mexican drug cartels was TRUE – by providing guns to Mexican drug cartels! Obama should be impeached, removed and imprisoned and Cantor should be tried for treason. This was a cynical conspiracy to further the Marxist agenda of gun control, period. I am fed up with liberals getting away with crap like this. Call it what it is and HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE!
Impeach them for violation of their oath of office to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the USA, which btw includes the Second Amendment…
Ooops – that should be “Holder” instead of “Cantor” in my previous post (#17).
One has to wonder… Where is the media coverage of this scandal? Even CBS, which originally broke the story on its nightly news report, has been silent recently.
They probably got the sharp elbow nudge.
We all thought Holder should have been jettisoned over the Black Panthers mess, but he slid out of that. I doubt that this episode will end much differently.
He works for Obama, and so it’s Obama’s moral code that he needs to emulate. He has miles and miles to go before he starts encroaching on that particular low fence.
I would like to see Holder, Raines and their ilk sweltering in one of Sheriff Arpaio’s tents in the Arizona desert, eating green baloney sandwiches and drinking water which could only be hot. With luck we might even see photos of them on one of Arpaio’s newly formed “chain gangs”. I want them to suffer but I also want to personally enjoy watching them suffer….which I’m afraid would not happen if they were sent to Mesico.
Let’s hope that President Calderon’s staff is following this investigation. There might be international fireworks in the offing, since our government furnished guns to the drug cartels that are killing so many Mexicans. It could be viewed as an act of war against the Mexican government.
Watch for Calderon to retire quite soon, with a surprisingly huge boatload of cash – dollars, specifically, sent down quietly by O as a personal apology.
bobby b…wouldn’t it be sweet if Obama used his campaign warchest to placate Calderon.
“Tampering with witnesses? I certainly hope so. Destroying evidence? I certainly hope so. The longer they stonewall the worse they will look in the end. Would it not be sweet timing to see this go viral late summer 2012 . . . . ”
Let’s all take a deep breath and think realistically about the situation.
There was a poll out this morning that showed that, after the past two years of unmitigated economic disaster combined with outright stimulus theft, with Obama putting us into the credit hole for the next thirty years even if we get frugal and stay that way, with our health care system about to implode from O’s new drain-the-coffers model of triage – with all of those things staring everyone in the country in the face, 45% of the people had confidence in O’s handling of the economy, and 32% had confidence in the Republicans’ handling of the economy. (The numbers might be off by one or two.)
45% of the people think O is doing a good job managing the economy. Think about that. That’s a significant chunk of the people that we’re pretending are going to see the Fast and Furious details and become mad at Obama, and they
ve shown themselves to be brain-dead idiots.
Face it – every time we think “they’ll see through him now, finally!”, we end up skunked. They either don’t see what’s happening, or they don’t care.
Remember what Alexis de Tocqueville said: “A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations has been 200 years.”
Maybe O’s finally brought us over that point where the majority sees government as Santa. It HAS been about two hundred years, hasn’t it?
Yes, some few won’t see what’s happening and a few more won’t care. But more frightening, a significant number will see what’s going on here and *approve*. Remember, these are the folks who revere Che and Mao. If a few people have to die, well how many millions have already died to further the cause?
“There was a poll out this morning that showed… ”
I understand your concerns, yet I put little faith in polls. According to polls Harry was in for a through trouncing. According to polls right before election day Kerry was a shoe in. According to exit polls Kerry won. Polls mean little right now. This scandal is huge. It will not go away. Eventually it will unwind on CSPAN. Semen stains on a dress can be excused by human frailty. 150 (and counting) bleeding into the dust can not be excused and a majority, however slim, will be outraged.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who these crooks are protecting. If we had a government for the people and by the people, heads would roll, but with what we have all these criminals will walk free. Our country has become a third world banana republic with a dictator at it’s head.
Angry, sad. Angry, sad.
Angry, angrier. Angry, angrier.
A big clusterfrak circle of despair and hatred.
Actually, I think he needs to be indicted for civil rights violations as should the rest of the Civil Rights Division that went along with their now-public intent to ignore the civil rights of certain Americans based on their skin color. Those co-conspirators should be aware that they will be prosecuted to the full extent of the law as soon as a competent administration takes office.
google Gary Webb.San Jose Mercury News.
Did this ever stop or is it a continuation of Ollie North and the Iran Contra?
Fast and furious is known to have started in 2009. There’s no connection between it and Iran-Contra.
google Gary Webb.San Jose Mercury News.
Did this ever stop or is it a continuation of Ollie North and the Iran Contra?
Just another disease the plague of lawyers brings.
No doubts, Holder needs to go. However, there are more like him or worse that could appoint. The only solution is to replace Obama in 2012 and marginalize Holder in the interim.
I suspect that there are whistle blowers waiting in the wings. All they need is assurances of protection from Issa and Grassley.
It would be nice if there were some remaining men of courage in the ATF or DOJ who would step forth, but I doubt it. It seems most Americans prefer security over liberty anymore.
We should all contact CBS news and pound them on this. They should be reporting this blow by blow. Maybe if katie curic was not so worried about obozo she would actually report on this. We all know if this was GW there would be no end to the reporting that katie curic would be doing.
All the documents available to the witnesses on a shared drive, hm….
Gee, let’s hope that none of those witnesses decided to download the whole drive, burn it to DVD, and buy some stamps. That would be just terrible….
What bothers me the most is the feeling that they will all get away with this. Yes, evidence is/has been gathered but stonewalling continues and the Democrats are very skilled at delaying and avoiding punishment. Conversley, the sad/pathetic history of Republicans is that the first whisper of “tainted” behavior makes them run to a microphone, plead guilty and resign.
I really hope SP will run and be given the chance to clear the Washington nest of all the vipers. The vipers (entrenched and corrupt in both parties)justly fear her.
This how the slithering out of the Guns Across the Border starts -
The House Judiciary Committee is launching a probe into Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan’s prior involvement with healthcare reform legislation that could determine she must recuse herself from future high court deliberations on Obamacare.
The Judiciary Committee investigation follows up on a letter sent by 49 members of the House to House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, and ranking Democrat John Conyers of Michigan on June 24.
Chairman Smith sent a letter on Wednesday to Attorney General Eric Holder:
The funniest part of this probe is the fact that the request is being sent to the biggest Richard Cranium in the Justice Department – E. Himpton Holder!
I am sure the Attorney General would love to have a few more road blocks set up to protect him from having to spend to much time thinking about the dead border agents and the hundreds of murdered Mexicans – all victims of his negligence and inability to handle his duties!