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Gun-Control Supporters Say Momentum Quietly Building to Get a Bill Through

Schumer: "We are going to pass background checks and then move on and do other things we have to do to get guns off the streets."

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Bill Straub

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November 28, 2013 - 11:25 pm
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WASHINGTON – Congressional gun-control advocates are preparing to take another run at expanding background checks on those looking to purchase firearms.

The legislation pending in the House requires that background checks on gun purchasers be required at gun shows and in similar settings. Currently, only transactions involving federally licensed firearms dealers require a background check.

A Senate bill requiring instant background checks for almost all sales through the FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System, which also prohibited firearms listings on unlicensed websites, fell six votes shy of the 60 needed to break a filibuster in April. But proponents maintain the culture is quickly changing and that support for additional firearms restrictions is growing in both the public and on Capitol Hill.

The Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act of 2013, a measure sponsored by Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) and Rep. Mike Thompson (D-Calif.), who chairs the House Gun Violence Prevention Task Force, has been sitting idly in the House Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, Homeland Security and Investigations since April. But it has 185 co-sponsors, leaving it 33 votes short of a majority in the lower chamber. In addition to expanding background checks, the King-Thompson legislation creates a commission to study and report on the “root causes of these recurring and tragic acts of mass violence.”

“Right now, a criminal in many states can buy a firearm at a gun show, over the internet, or through a newspaper ad – because those sales don’t require a background check,” Thompson said. “Last year, the background check system identified and denied 88,000 gun sales to criminals, domestic abusers, those with dangerous mental illnesses and other prohibited purchasers. However, those same criminals could buy those same guns at a gun show or over the Internet without any questions asked. H.R. 1565 closes this huge loophole, greatly reducing the number of places a criminal can buy a gun.”

Thompson said the bill protects rights under the Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution by providing an exemption on background checks for firearm transfers between family and friends.

“You won’t have to get a background check when you inherit the family rifle, borrow a friend’s shotgun for a hunting trip or purchase a gun from a buddy or neighbor,” Thompson said.

It further bans the creation of a federal registry and makes the misuse of records a felony, punishable by up to 15 years in prison. It allows active duty military to buy firearms in their home states and the state in which they are stationed, authorizes the use of a state concealed carry permit in lieu of a background check to purchase a firearm and allows interstate handgun sales from licensed dealers.

Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), who sponsored the legislation that failed to make it through the Senate earlier this year, said public outrage over mass shootings – a September incident at the Navy Yard in Washington that left 13 dead including the shooter is a recent example — and the persistent advocacy of gun-control supporters have created a political atmosphere similar to the 1990s when Congress passed the Brady Bill.

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I'm probably preaching to the choir here but it is so tedious having to point out the Democrat and Progressive lies every time they want to disarm us.

One - There is no such thing as a gun show "loophole." The vast majority of sellers at gun shows are Federal Firearms Licensees (FFL's) and they will, by law, make you fill out Form 4473 and run a background check for every purchase. If you are buying a handgun you will have a wait of a few days to take it home unless you have a permit or are trading another handgun in (this varies by state and some have waits for long guns.)

Two - The vast majority of "private" sales at gun shows are between law abiding citizens who use good judgment when transferring a firearm. A miniscule percentage of bad guys get their weapons at gun shows... 'cause their full of cops, military personnel and "law-n-order" Conservatives and "old school" Dems. Every firearm I have bought, sold or traded with a private individual at a show included a MUTUAL checking of ID and CWP's and most of those with written bills of sale. No real gun owning American wants to sell a gun to a criminal... period. Democrats don't seem to understand that law abiding gun owners are just that... far more "law abiding" than the average liberal loon in NYC, LA, Chicago, DC, Boston and the rest of the high crime Progressive islands with draconian firearms laws.

Three - You CANNOT buy a firearm on the Internet and have it shipped or mailed to you. It's already illegal. It must be shipped by an FFL dealer to an FFL dealer who will treat it like any other sale with a 4473 and background check. Needless to say the average (or above average) criminal ain't gonna do this.

Four - They want/need a national firearm registry to realize their dream of rendering Americans defenseless. The ONLY way you can enforce the so called "universal" background check law is to know where every single firearm is and who owns it. Ask the folks in NY how well that's working out. Thousands of people are being forced to prove to the government the final disposition of firearms they own that have been deemed to be "illegal." These citizens are now required to PROVE THEIR INNOCENCE to the benevolent government bureaucrats and law officers of the Peoples Republic of New York. How many criminals are going to take their guns out-of-state and let the cops know exactly where they are? Again, not designed to punish/deter a criminal, only an honest citizen.

Five - Nancy, sweetie, that 90% number is pure fiction. Not even 90% of your own DNC party members want more gun laws. 90% of us want the LEGAL laws on the books enforced and the bad guys put in prison. ... but I realize that they vote for you so you're never going to do that.

"... shall not be infringed." is a pretty clear statement. If our new Socialist government was really concerned for our safety there wouldn't be any "defense free zones" that these nut jobs could attack. I'm tired of them telling me that they will protect me, my family and friends by taking away our firearms. They only people they are protecting are the criminals... but since they are the DNC's hardcore base I guess that's what we should all expect.
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“Momentum is on our side,” he said. “The will of the American people will not go away.
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Except when it comes to health care laws, when that same "will" is disregarded. Well, as with abortion, I'm coming around. Maybe it's okay to abort Democrats, and maybe it's okay to make sure Dems cannot own guns. For their own good, of course.
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"Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) said public outrage over mass shootings --- have created a political atmosphere similar to the 1990s when Congress passed the Brady Bill."
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Not to be duplicitous - but only in your mind you dimwitted moron!

But anything to draw attention from your party's problems eh senator? Like your health care debacle?

Thats something the atmosphere *is* changing on.

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It is also odd he mentioned the Navy Yard shooter, who had a secret clearence and CAC card. Yeah, he's the perfect example of why we need background checks . . .
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I also find it odd Chuck is pushing this now. Distraction?

If such a move had a chance it was after Sandyhook. With the ongoing Obamacare meltdown I can't see how they would expect a chance to pass this now. Sounds like a lame attempt to change the subject. Then again perhaps it is just a fundraising appeal to some of his well off lefty doners.
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What they want is to restrict person to person sales. In order to effectively do this, they need universal gun registration. Even if registrtion isn't part of the bill, expect them to push to add it later to "close the loophole".
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"Public Safety and Second Amendment Rights Protection Act "
I can already tell this bill is bad because of this totally BS title, since it obviously has zippo to do with protecting second amendment rights. And then they trumpet the provision about how you cant have a gun registry, then turn around and talk about how the gun records (Isn't that a gun registry by another name) cant be misused. Here is how we make sure such a database can never be misused, dont create it in the first place.
We have to beat these gun grabbers so bad, and so repeatedly, that they will cringe in fear before even daring to propose another gun grab. I figure it will take several more defeats, preferably followed by electoral losses for the bills sponsors, to really put this kind of fear into them.
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Much like Sisyphus rolling his bolder up the hill, these anti-firearm control freaks will not stop until they believe they have taken guns away from every honest citizen. They will redefine honest citizens as criminal if that is what it takes to have a disarmed sheeple to control.

All we can do, is keep pushing the bolder of freedom back down the hill against their efforts.
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They will not be satisfied, until they have made owning and/or carrying a firearm, so difficult, that for all practical purposes, your Second Amendment rights, will cease to exist. They are using the modus operandi of the British government. Bit by bit, they will infringe your firearms rights out of existence. That is the end game.
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This thing with progressives is that they NEVER stop, and NEVER give up. A victory for liberty is just a bump in the road to them. They have been primarily responsible for the 20,000+ gun laws now on the books. They constantly whine about compromise or "common sense" and other BS, yet it's only the conservatives who compromise. Conservatives and libertarians need to adopt the same tactics as the progressives. Don't stand on our laurels, continue to push and never be satisfied until we not only simply STOP the progressive's march to destruction, but begin to reverse some of the damage they've done. Progressives are like the "whack a mole" game..... Just when you think you're winning, up pops Chuck's ugly mug again.
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These are the same claims that they made the last time the national gun registry came up. ( oops background checks). This is even a bigger lie than it was the last time With recalls in Colorado and now another one resigning, I doubt they are gaining votes. Democrats are shell shocked by the recent up tick in gun purchases and CCW permits.
They are trying to take our minds off of the garbage dump called obamacaare. They believe we are as they are. Unable to concentrate on more than one thing at a time. I would bet that any Democrat that is up for re-election will not want to tackle gun control again. At least not until after 2014.
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I tend to agree. Distraction from Obamacare, but also something to rile up some of the base. The wealthy Dem doners heart gun control and environmentalism.
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Your are correct that momentum is building AGAINST further gun control.
I agree with Rick Caird below that those facing election in 2014 hand better heed this support. We do not trust 'our' legislators to be restrained in any attack on the 2nd.
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What should be done is to disarm all Democrats. Why?

All the mass shooters have either been Democrats or children of Democrats.

An increasing number of Democrats have been calling for violence against those who disagree with them. If the people are disarmed they will indeed carry this out as their political kindred have in Russia, Germany, China, Cambodia, etc., etc. Don't think so? Stories of violence against non-believers are out there just usually buried, like Cantor's house being attacked by immigration supporters.

Democrats are the dangerous ones in power or with guns.
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