Gun Control Advocate Traver to Head ATF
President Barack Obama has nominated Andrew Traver to lead the the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF), and based upon the reaction to the nomination by the shooting industry, you might have thought he nominated a pedophile to run the local PTA. There’s a good reason for that.
Traver isn’t just any nominee, but the special agent in charge (SAC) of the ATF’s Chicago field division, after previous stints in Philadelphia, Washington, D.C., New Orleans, and San Francisco. He lacks any prior experience as a senior-level executive, and considering his Chicago ties, there is every reason to believe the nomination is entirely political in nature, providing the president an opportunity to enact gun control measures without risking his already dismal approval ratings.
Inexperienced and politically connected, Traver has developed a reputation as a gun control advocate. Like President Barack Obama, Traver has been tied to the left-wing Joyce Foundation, which bankrolls various anti-gun organizations and which counts among its many initiatives an attempt to subvert Second Amendment scholarship. Traver lent his voice to a deceptive NBC News article, purposefully blurring the lines between fully automatic military machine guns and civilian-legal semi-automatic rifles that fire one bullet when the trigger is pulled. Traver is also member of the anti-gun International Association of Chiefs of Police.
As noted by Only Guns and Money, Traver was a participant in the 2007 Great Lakes States Summit on Firearm Violence, which generated a report titled “Taking a Stand: Reducing Gun Violence in Our Communities.”
Recommendations in the report involved a string of liberty-infringing proposals, including:
- Requiring that all gun sales take place through federal firearms license (FFL) holders with mandatory background checks.
- Enacting an effective ban on military-style assault weapons, armor-piercing handgun ammunition, .50 caliber sniper rifles, and other weapons that enable criminals to outgun law enforcement.
- Repealing the Tiahrt Amendment, which hinders investigation of illegal gun trafficking.
- Destroying guns that come into police possession once their law enforcement use has ended.
- Mandating safe storage of firearms by private citizens and providing safe facilities where gun owners can store their weapons.
- Mandating reporting of lost and stolen firearms.
- Developing a best practices protocol for voluntary gun surrender programs.
- Congress should restore funding for the Byrne Justice Assistance Grant Program for state, local, and tribal agencies to investigate and prosecute cases of gun trafficking and gun violence.
- The federal government should increase funding to ATF for personnel and technical assistance to combat gun violence.
- Congress should enact legislation to allow federal health and safety oversight of the firearms industry.
Unsurprisingly, the proposals that came from the summit’s report are rehashed gun control talking points focused on shredding the personal liberties of law-abiding Americans. They have very little to do with actually reducing gun violence. All of the proposals are controversial and potentially deadly. Proposals to repeal the Tiahrt Amendment have been blasted by police organizations because repealing the law would put the lives of undercover officers and police informants at risk.
Battle lines are clearly drawn regarding the Traver nomination.
The anti-gun Brady Center is strongly behind the nomination, stating: “If Mr. Traver is confirmed, we are hopeful that he will be a strong voice for the strengthening and effective enforcement of our gun laws.”
The National Rifle Association and other Second Amendment groups are predictably opposed to the Traver nomination, with the NRA going so far as to warn President Obama to withdraw the nomination.
But the most damning charges against Traver don’t come from outside groups, but from ATF watchdog message boards (again documented at Only Guns and Money). At CleanUpATF.org, Traver has been heavily criticized by ATF agents most familiar with his work. They cite his inexperience and, most damningly, his alleged lack of professionalism.
Andrew Traver promises to bring inexperience, arrogance, bad judgment, radical politics, and the “Chicago way” to Washington, D.C. The ATF has been an object of widespread scorn and derision since the incompetence displayed at Ruby Ridge and the disaster at Waco, in which a botched ATF investigation, raid, and siege led to the deaths of 80 Branch Davidians (including 25 children) in their Mount Carmel compound. ATF’s reputation for bizarre and sometimes absurd rulings since then has continued to tarnish the agency’s image.
With Traver at the helm, the beleaguered agency’s reputation can only get worse.
If the left can not hold on to power by the power of the vote, it will try some other way. One of the basic parts of their philosophy is to rule by executive order. Should there be any objection to that, they want to enforce their rule regardless. Disarming the American public is a first step in that direction. An armed public has the ability to resist and they don’t want that. A disarmed public invites rule by executive order and the use of the police and military to enforce such rule. Stay aware, stay armed, stay alert.
And so WE MUST RESIST with ALL MEANS from being DISARMED!
We posses the ingredients for the perfect storm.
Millions new firearms in the hands of law-abiding Americans in addition to billions of rounds of ammunition after the Kenyan was elected. Totally anti-gun administration. Serious economic crisis. Terrorism. Statist government. Marxist leader. Politically correctness. Pissed off Americans, etc.
And now Mr. Traver, pro-citizen-disarmament zealot.
What can go wrong?
Quoting Mr. Vanderboegh, “When Democracy Becomes Tyranny, I STILL get to vote.”
The perfect storm!
The partnership of the Manchurian President on the Chicago Mafia. Can it get any better than this?
If you think Barack Obama is a Marxist, you really ought to get out more.
If you cannot see that Oscambo is a communist you shouldn’t go out without your guide dog.
As Archie Bunker once told his activist daughter, Gloria, when she fed him statistics about the number of handgun deaths “Would it make you feel any better, little girl, if they was pushed out a windah?”
All we can do is continue to try and put these liberal statistical tricks into perspective. More children drown pools, which are present in far fewer households than guns, than die from accidental wounding via firearms. Suicide by firearm makes up 57%, but that means 43% are by other means, and I for one believe most of that 57% would also be by other means, if guns were not available.
We have to continue to inform ignoramuses that comparing firearm homicides with other developed countries, and not murder rates, is disingenuous.
Finally, why don’t liberals solve this problem like they do other problems (sarcasm). Why not have mandatory gun awareness classes. Bring back shooting classes. Smuggle little Timmy across state lines to buy a gun and conceal it from the parents. We don’t want little boys buying back alley guns, now do we?
“Andrew Traver promises to bring inexperience, arrogance, bad judgment, radical politics, and the “Chicago way” to Washington, D.C.”
Sounds just like Barack Obama’s level of competence.
I’ve always wondered why the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF)even exists today? Why isn’t this department and their experts simply incorporated into the FBI, thereby having only one, bloated Federal agency instead of two? You would have a single administrative structure with one single command network and one single set of personnel with one computer data base, instead of two big agencies with overlapping responsibilities that have to constantly interact and fight with each other on a whole variety of issues. Wouldn’t it make life a lot easier to just have everybody under the FBI and then eliminate all of the unnecessary administrative personnel once the merger was made? You would still maintain the area of expertise that the ATF is responsible for (keeping most, if not all, of the field agents and lab experts), only do it much more efficiently under one Federal agency.
But I guess an idea like this would just make too much sense in Washington.
“Why isn’t this department and their experts simply incorporated into the FBI, thereby having only one, bloated Federal agency instead of two?”
Because BATFE agents aren’t qualified for the FBI, and the G-men remind the Revenuers of this every chance that they get.
The Bureau, (and there is only ONE agency that is referred to as simply “The Bureau”, and everyone knows this), doesn’t hire just ANY numb-nuts off the street.
What I don’t understand is why the BATFE has arrest powers. They are an arm of the Treasury, last I checked, and this means that they are fundamentally concerned with collecting the taxes on aforementioned ATF & E, as well as being the pogues who administer the licensing schemes for production, manufacture and distribution of same.
Since when do clerks need a SWAT Team?
If they identify a lawbreaker, they should have to call in the Marshals or the Secret Service to do the enforcement. BATFE should be limited to a solely investigative function.
You bring up a good point about ATF agents not being as qualified as FBI agents. Well, then why can’t ATF agents that are brought into the FBI be raised to the same standards? If they don’t qualify, then they don’t become an agent. But the ATF is acting like its own mini FBI and that just doesn’t make any sense. We should be reducing the size of government, not increasing it. If the Treasury department needs its laws enforced, it can call in the FBI. Like you said, why should the Treasury department have its own heavily-armed agents with roughly the same powers as FBI agents? A Federal law is a Federal law, so if you break it, can’t the FBI arrest you as easily as ATF? They tried to streamline some of the Federal agencies when Homeland Security was created. I still think they didn’t go far enough. There are still too many Federal agencies doing essentially the same thing, arresting people who violate Federal laws.
“….and the G-men remind the Revenuers of this every chance that they get.” That they do… the FBI is constantly ‘upstaged’ by the ATF, any crime scene involving guns and/or explosives (to name a couple…) no matter how many years the Bureau has worked the case… blam, the ATF is in charge. I read where a FBI agent was asked why the lengthily 27 month training period for atf agents.. In keeping with their standard of professionalism, he stated “some things just take longer”
What it does not tell you, is that ATF agents are also trained to be evasive and how to lie on the witness stand and not commit purjury in doing so. Although the ATF receives longer training than the FBI.. The FBI is considered far more professional in their conduct and affairs.
For a short, neutral history of the ATF… See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bureau_of_Alcohol,_Tobacco,_Firearms_and_Explosives
Along these lines, I have wondered why it is always the ATF that is the one doing the undercover work infiltrating motorcycle gangs and the like. The charges brought against the Mongols or the Outlaws always tend to be murder, RICO, or drug charges – not cigarettes, whiskey, or guns.
I’m not saying it doesn’t need to be done but why not the FBI or the DEA. I am really curious why one agency is picked to do it and not another.
Because FBI, ie, college grad types, well dressed, well spoken, intelligent, well mannered, do not fit in with bikers, hippies or other scum bags. ATF types often do.
With years of history of billions in property seized without formal charges being filed with cash and property sold at auction cleared for agency (and private) use do you really expect the proliferation of parasites to either let go of or totally destroy their hosts? Neither is likely to occur with so few legislated restrictions imposed and constitutional abrogations allowed for “the good of the many” .
Expect much more embedded corruption than Rolling Rock Magazine to contend with in future governmental atrocities. If you haven’t noticed there’s a “foot in the door” you’re trying to close. Usurpation of authority is highly contagious and blind to reality after generations of existence. History has already proved its results in every metropolis in the US. It should be assumed that foreign roaches are also tempted to work their magic from the safety of legislated cracks until they interfere with other parasites food supplies. Drug wars are only the apexes of such abuses.
They are the “original revenuers”, who went out to collect taxes on liquor and tobacco. When firearms came into their pervue, who knows. Probably had more to do with the production of components for the charge, like blackpowder and lead. There’s a Federal Tax on all components and cartridges, plus the “one-time” Federal Tax on the firearm from Federally Liscenced Dealers…which is the REAL reason the Feds wand all used guns to be resold through FLDs’. To continue collecting a TAX PER FIREARM, everytime they’re sold! As the Treasury sees it, they’re loosing a source of TAXES!
The agency SHOULD be known as “The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, Explosives and Oleomargarine!” BATF is charge with “responsibility” to collect the still-existing taxes on oleomargarine, instituted in the early 20th Century to “protect” dairies from being undercut on their price of butter! By the way, THESE are the same people known as “Revenooers” in the southern hills where moonshining is still being practiced.
Yes, and since BATFE is now part of Justice, we have the interesting situation of a bureau of the Justice Department, not the Treasury, being in the business of collecting taxes. I believe that is a violation of Federal law.
Not that our Fearless Leaders know, or care. Including those in the Republican Party who put ATF in Justice after 9/11- I guess they never bothered to read the laws anymore than the Democrats ever do.
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BATF in its present form was created by Executive Order by Richard Nixon in 1971, as an expansion of the Treasury Department’s Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms Taxation Division, which had existed since 1922, having been created to enforce the Volstead Act (the 18th Amendment, aka Prohibition). Following Prohibition’s repeal by the 21st Amendment in 1933, ATFTD was essentially an agency in search of a mission until Nixon gave it full Bureau status.
He did so for two basic reasons;
1. Nixon was a lifelong hater of the Second Amendment, and believed American citizens should be totally disarmed. (All of his writings show this.)
2. During the 1968 election, sportsmen mainly voted for Hubert Humphrey, a lifelong supporter of the 2nd Amendment, and Nixon wanted payback.
If not for these two factors, plus the Safe Streets And Crime Control Act of 1968 (aka the Gun Control Act of 1968 aka GCA 68), ATF would have been gone, and a footnote in the Treasury Department’s history, four decades ago.
After the Waco and Ruby Ridge debacles, ATF was nearly disestablished; only the antics of Charles Schumer and Bill Clinton saved it. Schumer turned the Waco hearings into a referendum on how much he hates the NRA. Clinton and his Attorney General, Janet Reno, managed to deflect the blame for Ruby Ridge, which had happened a year before they came to power, entirely onto the FBI, conveniently overlooking that as with Waco, the Bureau had been dragooned into trying to salvage a situation ATF had botched from the beginning, with ATF calling the shots (literally). The agency survived, but barely, mainly due to the ten-year “assault weapon ban” (which had about as much impact on actual crime as an icicle ban has on winter). Incidentally, the “instant check” on firearms purchases that Clinton trumpeted as a great achievement is done by the FBI, not BATF(E).
Following 9/11, ATF was once more on the verge of dissolution, because the FBI, Marshal Service, etc., pointed out that their investigations of everyone from terrorist groups to drug cartels was hampered by ATF’s trademark combination of Rambo-style tactics (used against people unlikely to shoot at them- at least they learned that much from Waco), refusal to supply information to any other agency (to “protect their ongoing investigations”), and the fact that ATF’s lab was noted for botched analyses, delayed results, and a general “F-U” attitude toward every other law enforcement agency.
Instead of doing the smart thing, and simply abolishing the agency, President Bush took some fundamentally bad advice from somebody, and transferred ATF (now the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives) to the Justice Department, alongside the FBI and Marshal Service.
Who already do everything BATFE does, do it on time, more accurately, and cheaper.
BATFE is one of the most ineffectual agencies in the U.S. government, and has been for forty years. Far from having arrest powers, its agents (many of whom failed the psych eval to join FBI or Marshals) shouldn’t even be allowed to carry loaded weapons. It exists mainly as a club for politicians who hate the Second Amendment to beat law-abiding American citizens over the head with. Its actual utility in combating organized crime and terrorism has repeatedly been shown to be zero to several decimal places.
The agency serves no useful purpose, and should be abolished.
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Eon:
Excellent historical information re: ATF.
One more tidbit of information involves The National Firearms Act (NFA) enacted on 26 June 1934, that, in general, imposes a statutory excise tax on the manufacture and transfer of certain firearms and mandates the registration of those firearms. The Act was passed shortly after the repeal of Prohibition (The Volstead Act).
ATF was and always has been an agency with one mission – to raise revenue for the federal government. After the repeal of the Volstead Act, ATF was tasked with enforcing the NFA and its requirement that certain firearms be assessed a $200 Stamp Tax (along with a myriad of other taxes assessed to a wide variety of devices).
Brian: does my post meet with your approval?
“Traver promises to bring inexperience, arrogance, bad judgment, radical politics, and the “Chicago way” to Washington, D.C.”
Gee, these sound like Barack Obama’s credentials. Naturally BO would appoint someone as stupid as he is. Now we will have another bum to get rid of.
Are we really surprised by this? His Transparency needs serious cover for his sorry butt and who better than another inexperienced progressive to give it to him?
Just another example of Obama’s inability to move to the center. He continues to ignore the voice and will of the American people in pursuit of his ideological agenda. What he now cannot achieve through Congress, he seeks to achieve through regulation by various agencies.
This lawless, and authoritarian administration is a danger to all the most basic Constitutional freedoms cherished by the American people.
I suppose all we can do is hold the new elected officials to doing our bidding. Ha..did i say that?..yeah, it’s gonna be business as usual.
Look at Reid now, acting like he’s in complete charge and doing the people’s business..needs to be cut off at the earliest time, just like Pelosi and anyone..”anyone”..obama has appointed.
People like Traver are in these positions strictly at the discretion of the president.
Obama cannot be reelected , or hillary elected, or our nation will fall to her knees…
you might have thought he nominated a pedophile to run the local PTA
Or maybe just Assistant Deputy Secretary of the Office of Safe and Drug Free Schools
“Mandating safe storage of firearms by private citizens . . .”
I absolutely love this one. Are they going to send federal marshals around from house to house to check? On second thought . . .
Jarvis, I, as do many of the commenters here, already have a safe place to store my firearm…in the holster on my belt.
I consider safe storage of my firearms is to be within easy reach and ready to go at most all times, especially in my home. I have lot’s of ammunition and it is also ready in magazines also within easy reach, I just ain’t gonna let you know where things are unless I am walking around the house with a holstered loaded weapon on my side!
“I absolutely love this one. Are they going to send federal marshals around from house to house to check? On second thought . . .”
That’s basically what they do here in Australia. For the few who are still officialy “allowed” to own a rifle or shotgun (as opposed to the many, many people who very quietly kept their guns but are now criminal in doing so (gulp)) upon acceptance of a gun license a person gives the local police the power to randomly inspect their gun storage in their home.
The federal government pointed a gun so to speak at the states in the form of withholding funding (as usual) if they didn’t comply and implement the new laws the feds wanted implemented after the Port Arthur Massacre (the feds here have no authority over domestic gun laws).
A sad, sad tale that I suspect is not over and indeed hasn’t actually even really started yet, there has been some small gains made in various states to roll back some law.
Don’t let them take your guns, immediately after they took and destroyed 700,000 guns and outlawed them for 99% of the population the change in attitude in governance in this country was very noticeable, especially state governance. Fourteen years on and the descent into heavy handed and belligerent governance seems to be escalating, politicians are completely unshackled from any concern what-so-ever about their behavior.
My sincere condolences. We are fortunate that our separation from Britain was earlier and more complete.
The British enshrined their right to bear arms as part of the “common law” protected by the magna carta. . . then they let the government take it away. Then they re-enshrined their right to bear arms as part of the English bill of rights after their civil war. . . then they let the government take it away.
The sent MP’s to NRA meetings across the US to beg American civilians for guns to protect their homeland as their lay filled with sand on the beach at Dunkirk, kept guns in the hands of the subjects for a while after the war. . . then they let the government take them away.
Now look at poor, pitiable Britain, more security cameras than people, one of the most violent nations according the UN vis a vie knife and physical violence, mohamed as the most popular boy’s name, we certainly should look to Britain as an example.
Ultimately, that location will be in the nearest Federal Armory.
Does the “o” want the US to disolve into civil war? He seems to be doing everything he can to push his leftwing agenda in every way possible. . . Soros is getting his money’s worth out of this clown. . . .a better investment than the trolls who post here. . .
Yes! Then he can declare martial law and seize total control
‘Inexperienced and politically connected’ – Kidding aside, Mr. Owens – I believe that’s thee qualifications for this administration!
1. Van Jones, ‘Green jobs’ Czar – removed – 9/11 Truther, Marxist, cop killer supporter (funny, I didn’t see his environmental pedigree..) though hired by John Podesta’s ‘Center for American Progress’ after being outed (btw, read up on CfAP.. it speaks of ‘Progressive Values – hahaha)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otM3pWOBWWk&feature=related
2. John Podesta, ’08 Obama Transitional team – Presently head fruit loop of CfAP and UFO advocate.. cuckoo!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Ch5BvTVXWk&feature=player_embedded
3. Bill Richardson, Obama’s choice for Commerce Secretary, removed self from nomination due to corruption charges. Pulled an ‘Obama’, ‘Murtha’ whatever, when Secretary of Energy and tried throwing a scientist under the bus with FALSE, unfounded accusations. Not to mention Richardson’s a member of the other divisive Caucus, the CHC. I ‘loved’ it when Obama spoke of Richardson’s ‘Executive experience’ – What ‘Exec’ experience?
3. Nancy DeParle, Director of the WH’s Mandated Health insurance ‘Reform’. Check out Ms/ DeParle’s lack of ethics with her former HEALTH CARE employers. She can very well be the biggest lobbyist for hire in Obama’s cabinet.
4. Patrick Gaspard, Obama’s ‘Political Affairs Director’ is another ‘former’ lobbyist/Political Director of NY’s ACORN, bertha Lewis’ right hand and infamous SEIU stooge.
5. Steve Rattner, Obama’s ex ‘Car Czar’ (Another czar.. Russia’s late Romanov’s got nothing on this administration!) canned and paid $5 million to the feds for his pay-to-play schemes.
These are just a couple off the top of my head.
Good post Paul. Yes, Obama has shown us he knows how to pick the cream…
constitutional rights to bear arms is not only for personal protection but also to give citizens the ability to overthrow a tyrannical, despotic regime…
the statists see an armed citizenry as the last line of defense and when they get us to disarm then it’s all over
i love how they suggest that current gun laws enable criminals to outgun law enforcement—- L I E S———- criminals dont get guns through legal channels ffs; citizens get arms through legal channels therefore current gun laws enable citizens to fight back against a hypothetical despotic takeover
so, obviously, the gubment wants citizens to fight back with nerf guns, pepper spray and slingshots
An unarmed person can only be a free person, a person with choices, if an armed person will allow it. “Fred, are you saying that freedom is inextricably tied to weaponry?” Why yes, yes I am.
Why does a mid level federal beaurocrat have associations with ANY NGO.
He should be under investigation, not up for a promotion!!!!!
I’m sorry, anyone who purposefully misleads the public on an “Assualt Weapons Ban” by having them fire FULL AUTO weapons when the ban only covers Semi-Auto weapons that look similar gets negative votes in my blook.
And right at the same time as Soros’ Center for American Progress urges Obama to bypass Congress and rule by executive order and regulatory authority. What a coincidence…..
It was the ATF that set the stage for Ruby Ridge and Waco. Men, women,pregnant women and children massacred because of the ATF. Its time to break them up and de-fund that bunch, they’ve shown that they like to kill. Travers will be a catalyst for disaster which is most likely what the Marxist wants.
Yes, now that the marxist subversives know for sure that the elections will kick them out of power, we need to be vigilant. They will be trying to create some provocation which the enslaved media can use to hammer the public opinion with idiotic propaganda for the marxists.
Be serene, spread info, pray.
But Ruby Ridge and Waco also showed that whilst there are conscienceless killers on the Feds’ payroll, they aren’t in the BATFEces — it’s full of incompetent cowards. Just make sure that they don’t call on a Fibbie sniper, or mob you, and they’ll be less of a threat than middle-school hall monitors.
Time for a new most wanted deck of 55 to cover the commies and their supporters in DC. A long time ago I saw a man killed with a spoon. Therefore making any argument against guns a lie. The only people who derive any safety from eliminated guns are dictators, thugs, and criminals.
This is not anything new with the greatest orator on earth. He has tried this with the FCC and EPA, why not the BATF? The thing they don’t get is that this guy will cause continuation of skyrocketing ammo and gun sales. I am thankful that this guy isn’t as smart as Clinton. He couldn’t triangulate out of a paper bag with protractor.
Winning the mid-term elections was only the first step.
Now we must limit the damages AND we must organize to win the presidential elections in 2012.
The subversives are busy trying to destroy our Freedom, it’s their job.
Our job is to be Patriots.
Be serene, spread information, pray.
An armed population and dictatorship are not compatible. Neither is a dictatorship compatible with the US Constitution.
Expect violation of office. I am sure he will have to swear an oath to the constitution.
The military did not loose in VietNam, it was defunded and without money you can’t buy the necessary equipment to fight a conflict. Maybe we need to get Congress to defund the BATF, if not competely defunded at least enough to get their attention.
I’m sure we can expect enforcement of our 28,000 that is as even handed and level-headed as our Department of Justice, no, Department of Labor, er, Department of Homeland Security, uh, Environmental Protectionism Agency, no, Department of Education…
The stupidity of TSA plus “Chicago politics” messing with your gun rights and safety while criminals get things easier.
Its ironic, there is a blood bath going on in Mexico which includes some Americans. We have a flood of illegal immigrants from there that are an unwanted weight on drowning USA right now and Obama recalls the National Guard from border duty. And, he is toying with amnesty for those same illegals with or without Congress’s approval. Instead, gun owning, law abiding, tax paying Americans are precieved as the enemy that needs to be dealt with. He didn’t learn anything from the last election?
The real question is how much damage can he inflict on the USA in the next two years? And, is that damage reversible? Come Jan1 we will see exactly what the vision he had in mind was as we will chafe under an avalanche of new or higher taxes. Remember that, this is so he can help the 30 million disenfranchised Americans which a large part of is those same illegal aliens.
He seems to want to help all the poor individuals of the world, so he imported 40,000 Somalis, and 10,000 Gaza Palestinians. But, that doesn’t seem to be enough. Lets open our borders and disarm the public.
The Kremlin received the message loud and clear when Reagan fired the illegally striking air traffic controllers. The message being, he would not be pushed around like the list of Presidents who got pushed around by the Kremlin.
I am hoping that the folk who view the Tea Party received the message the current occupant of the Oval Office sent: He is not interested in moving his position to meet the Tea Party folk.
Because, it isn’t only about who fills what position. It is also about the larger context.
BATF nominee is in favor of gun control. Great. Next we’ll have a healthcare czar who’s in favor of death panels–oh, wait…
good one!
Yeah, this will end well.
Two words: Senate filibuster.
Three words: Romanian term limits.
Remember who we’re dealing with. It will come to that.
The issue of firearms ownership – ownership of any effective means of self defense, really – is inextricably tied to a first-principles assertion: that your life belongs to you. Not to your neighbor next door, not to ‘society’, not to the thug who wishes to deprive you of your life of your property, not to the government.
This is founding principle of America. It is the fundamental premise which defines the notion of private property and self-ownership. Americas founding documents were created to guarantee – NOT to grant – the rights the follow from that principle.
Therefore, those who presume to tell you that you cannot own a firearm are not merely holding in contempt the United States Constitution and the Second Amendment; they by definition assert that your life simply does not belong to you. They presume to dictate the terms of your existence,and by direct implication, that of your family.
Those who reject the first principles of a rational and humane existence – that your life belongs to you and that the disposition of the fruits of your labors are and should always be a matter of your personal conscience – are enemies of human freedom and dignity. These people are monsters – killers without conscience, who are unfit to live in a free society.
In that grim regard, justice must be tempered with compassion. As Heinrich Heine once said, “We must forgive our enemies, but not before they are hanged.”
Good words Ward, Thank you. May I quote?
Please feel free – there’s no copyright on common sense.
A persuasive and knowledgeable NRA recruiter called me Sunday afternoon, and I joined up. I hope many others will pitch in, whether they own guns or not. We have a real fight on our hands, against an emerging tyranny, and our dollars now mean more than ever.
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“Obama has nominated a Chicagoan with no senior executive level experience to run…” could start off news stories about dozens of different people. I suspect that “unqualified” tops the list of qualifications for an appointed position with this administration.
We need someone who’s strong and level headed and conservative and who believes in the Christian/American values system. Maybe this guy.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/gavon/sarah-palin-adviser-speaks-in-toungues
Here’s a cookie. And now, for a bit of Gilbert and Sullivan:
I Am the Very Model of an Internet Degenerate
NO-SENSEY:
I am the very model of an Internet Degenerate,
I’ve posted leftist cant and nonsense on the Internet,
I know the blogs of many places, where I wrote drivel historical,
From Powerline to PJM, in order categorical;
I’m very well acquainted, too, with matters pornographical,
I’ve made use of insults, both the simple and scatological,
About bodily functions I’m teeming with a lot o’ news,
With many cheerful facts about the stuffed animals that I abuse.
ALL: About bodily functions he’s teeming with a lot o’ news,
With many cheerful facts about the stuffed animals he does abuse.
NO-SENSEY:
I’m very good at slander; my arguments are droll
I know the URLs of all the blogs I troll:
In short, I’ve posted leftist cant and nonsense on the Internet,
I am the very model of an Internet Degenerate.
ALL: In short, he’s posted leftist cant and nonsense on the Internet,
He is the very model of an Internet Degenerate.
NO-SENSEY:
I know my posting history, blathering on for days,
For every argument that I’ve started, I’ve lost to my dismay,
My relationships with all I know are utterly disastrous,
With stuffed toys in my parents’ basement I’m simply pederastrous;
I can tell transparent lies until I fill my britches,
I know that all I’ll ever be be is one of those whiny bitches!
Then I can hum a tune to try and appear scientifulous,
But all that really does is make me look ridiculous.
ALL: Then he can hum a tune to try and appear scientifulous,
But all that really does is make him look ridiculous.
NO-SENSEY:
Then I can write a list of all the curses that I’d utter
Stuck in my parents’ basement and living on peanut butter.
In short, I’ve posted leftist cant and nonsense on the Internet,
I am the very model of an Internet Degenerate.
ALL: In short, he’s posted leftist cant and nonsense on the Internet,
He is the very model of an Internet Degenerate.
NO-SENSEY:
In fact, when I know what’s meant by “babbling” and “sniveling”,
When I can tell at once that my premises are shriveling,
When I persist in fallacies and arguments indefensible,
And when I know precisely why my sorry ass is so contemptible,
When I have learnt what progress has been made in modern buggery,
When I know that it’s payback time for all my stupid smuggery–
In short, living in my parents basement for five years running,
You’ll say an Internet Degenerate has got what he had coming.
ALL: In short, he’s living in his parents basement for five years running
You’ll say an Internet Degenerate has got what he had coming.
NO-SENSEY:
It’s been proven to all concerned, my lack of credibility,
I’m in my parents basement, living on disability;
But still, I’ve posted leftist cant and garbage on the Internet,,
I am the very model of an Internet Degenerate.
ALL: But still, he’s posted leftist cant and nonsense on the Internet,,
He is the very model of an Internet Degenerate
Let me guess . . . you’re retired . . . and bored . . . and insufferable.
What’s the matter…a little too personal?
Spoken like the dullard that thou art. And no, I’m not retired. This little piece was the work of a few minutes. Granted, that’s a difficult concept for the conceptually handicapped such as yourself. Insufferable? Clearly a case of projection. But keep posting. I’ve got a million of them.
Now, back to your hot pockets and stuffed animal menagerie. Try not to be too “hard” on them.
LOLOLOLOLOL!
Gee, Ward, you should save your deathless poetry for someone who deserves such time and attention. I’d hate to think you’d waste all that effort on some bozo in his parents’ basement.
Clearly I’ve got you bugged. (What can I say? It’s a gift.) What’s the favorite line of the chickenhawk establishment around here? They usually say it about people who criticize Palin. What is it again? Oh yeah, if you’re catching flak, you must be over the target. Fire away, Ward. Shoot all million of ‘em.
You see, I AM retired. I got all the time in the world. You and Mr. Lucky, however, night consider being more judicious with your allocation of available resources. I get the sense you may be living pretty close to the edge. Perhaps a part-time job might serve you better than Googling words that rhyme with scientifulous to fill in the gaps of your doggerel verse.
Insufferable, by the way, was right on the money.
Of course he would nominate a Chicagoan. Makes me want to put up the song “The Mob Rules”, IYKWIMAITTYD. When Osama, er, bama isn’t being a communist he’s a criminal. The very definition of criminal is one who disobeys the law. By disarming law abiding citizens he makes the criminals lives safer.
The only reason oba-mao hasn’t tried a gun grab yet is because he knows the rebellion that would start up because of it. That’s what touched off the first American Revolution and I fear it will ignite the next one too!! God Bless and Keep Us All!!
Vote ‘em all out in ’12. A new Prez can fire all these @$$H0le$
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Huh….???
Learn the Constitution online at home. Google it. Take your time.
is Chicago the only place where we get these bureaucrats?
enough of Obams’s Chicago buddies.
ALL of the Obama handlers are communists. That should say something about who is the face of their organization? Even if the Republicans end up with Mickey Mouse for a candidate, this group cannot be allowed to continue. Once they cannot be shown the door, the damage will be catastrophic compared to what they have already done.
ANOTHER EARTH SHATTERING IDIOT OPINION ARTICLE by the “somebody notice me i wanna be famous” Bob Owens.
There is zero evidence this new guy will do bad things to gun owners, he may or he may not, time will tell and there is nothing we can do until something happens.
But in Bob Owens’ world it is always best to write a bunch of sensational have hardly researched lame slanted opinion on some poor sod and Piss the guy off so he does turn into a anti gun action person.
Great Job Bob Owens why don’t you go spit on him next and really turn him on gun owners so you can say “see everybody look at me Bob Owens the nobody that roared with my keyboard.”
A real clint eastwood wanna be, Bob Owens.