Taken from this week’s edition of PJM Political, the unedited 22-minute version of Ed Driscoll’s interview with William McGowan, longtime journalist, and the author of the book debuting this week, Gray Lady Down: What the Decline and Fall of The New York Times Means for America. McGowan is also the author of an earlier, equally hard-hitting look at the impact of political correctness on newspapers across the country, Coloring the News.

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