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		<title>By: Dr. Bukk</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/gop-touts-alternatives-to-obamacare/#comment-361546</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Bukk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 21:10:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The republicans are missing one GIANT way to save on health care. Make hundreds of safe Rx drugs available over-the-counter. I personally saved $2.3 million dollars when Monistat went OTC.

OK, just a slight exaggeration. Yesterday, I spent 3 hours just to get some simple cortisone ear drops. Why can&#039;t we have the same freedoms that Mexicans have?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The republicans are missing one GIANT way to save on health care. Make hundreds of safe Rx drugs available over-the-counter. I personally saved $2.3 million dollars when Monistat went OTC.</p>
<p>OK, just a slight exaggeration. Yesterday, I spent 3 hours just to get some simple cortisone ear drops. Why can&#8217;t we have the same freedoms that Mexicans have?</p>
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		<title>By: Linda Rivera</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/gop-touts-alternatives-to-obamacare/#comment-360153</link>
		<dc:creator>Linda Rivera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>U.S. HEALTHCARE:  CUT YOUR LIFE SHORT
Obama promised HOPE and CHANGE. The media never asked what frightening changes Obama planned for Americans.

WORLDNETDAILY.COM
July 22, 2009
Obamacare for old folks: Just &#039;cut your life short&#039;
Health plan provision demands &#039;end-of-life&#039; counseling

By Bob Unruh

The version of President Obama&#039;s universal health care plan pending in the U.S. House would require &quot;end-of-life&quot; counseling for senior citizens, and the former lieutenant governor for the state of New York is warning people to &quot;protect their parents&quot; from the measure.

At issue is section 1233 of the legislative proposal that deals with a government requirement for an &quot;Advance Care Planning Consultation.&quot;

Betsy McCaughey, the former New York state officer, told former president candidate Fred Thompson during an interview on his radio program the &quot;consultation&quot; is no more or less than an attempt to convince seniors to die.

&quot;One of the most shocking things is page 425, where the Congress would make it mandatory absolutely that every five years people in Medicare have a required counseling session,&quot; she said. &quot;They will tell [them] how to end their life sooner.&quot;

McCaughey also said the Obama administration is suggesting that medical care be withheld from seniors based on the expected years they have left to live.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&amp;pageId=104719

Obama&#039;s Civilian National Security Force
Obama promised change. The End of America as we know it:

Obama: &quot;We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we&#039;ve set. We&#039;ve got to have a civilian national security force that&#039;s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.&quot;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y

PRAVDA: America&#039;s Descent into Marxism - Brief Video
http://www.solutionsfromscience.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>U.S. HEALTHCARE:  CUT YOUR LIFE SHORT<br />
Obama promised HOPE and CHANGE. The media never asked what frightening changes Obama planned for Americans.</p>
<p>WORLDNETDAILY.COM<br />
July 22, 2009<br />
Obamacare for old folks: Just &#8216;cut your life short&#8217;<br />
Health plan provision demands &#8216;end-of-life&#8217; counseling</p>
<p>By Bob Unruh</p>
<p>The version of President Obama&#8217;s universal health care plan pending in the U.S. House would require &#8220;end-of-life&#8221; counseling for senior citizens, and the former lieutenant governor for the state of New York is warning people to &#8220;protect their parents&#8221; from the measure.</p>
<p>At issue is section 1233 of the legislative proposal that deals with a government requirement for an &#8220;Advance Care Planning Consultation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Betsy McCaughey, the former New York state officer, told former president candidate Fred Thompson during an interview on his radio program the &#8220;consultation&#8221; is no more or less than an attempt to convince seniors to die.</p>
<p>&#8220;One of the most shocking things is page 425, where the Congress would make it mandatory absolutely that every five years people in Medicare have a required counseling session,&#8221; she said. &#8220;They will tell [them] how to end their life sooner.&#8221;</p>
<p>McCaughey also said the Obama administration is suggesting that medical care be withheld from seniors based on the expected years they have left to live.<br />
<a href="http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&#038;pageId=104719" rel="nofollow">http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&#038;pageId=104719</a></p>
<p>Obama&#8217;s Civilian National Security Force<br />
Obama promised change. The End of America as we know it:</p>
<p>Obama: &#8220;We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we&#8217;ve set. We&#8217;ve got to have a civilian national security force that&#8217;s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwaAVJITx1Y</a></p>
<p>PRAVDA: America&#8217;s Descent into Marxism &#8211; Brief Video<br />
<a href="http://www.solutionsfromscience.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.solutionsfromscience.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Increase Mather</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/gop-touts-alternatives-to-obamacare/#comment-360015</link>
		<dc:creator>Increase Mather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the &quot;watchdog&quot; media? Why aren&#039;t they going through this bill, word by word? 

Do we have a free, unbiased media anymore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the &#8220;watchdog&#8221; media? Why aren&#8217;t they going through this bill, word by word? </p>
<p>Do we have a free, unbiased media anymore?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/gop-touts-alternatives-to-obamacare/#comment-358612</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;lets start&quot;  neede caffien.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;lets start&#8221;  neede caffien.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/gop-touts-alternatives-to-obamacare/#comment-358609</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 14:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jharp, get a clue.  When you start to stretch the truth this much it gets very thin.  Shona Holmes would probably have gone blind with Canadian care.  The great conspiracy didn&#039;t change the facts, HufPuf just screwed the pouch and got caught.

Don&#039;t through the &quot;lie&quot; tag around.  The Democrats have been caught far too often to get any traction throwing that around.

The government it the problem.  The two things that need fixing are:

1 - Tort reform (any system that requires someone to pay 6 figure premiums per year is broken)

2 - Allow private sector insurance companies to spread their coverage across state lines (thus spredding the cost across more people lowering the liability to each)

MINOR regulation changes to insurance regulations will take care of the rest.  

If we spike the &quot;Recovery&quot; bills and get back our trillion dollars we will be very able to cover any costs to those who don&#039;t have health care. Not free though.  Anything free is abused.

And while we are at it lets stop calling the Recovery bills what they are, the EVERY PET DEMOCRATIC PROJECT NOT PASSED IN THE LAST 20 YEARS bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jharp, get a clue.  When you start to stretch the truth this much it gets very thin.  Shona Holmes would probably have gone blind with Canadian care.  The great conspiracy didn&#8217;t change the facts, HufPuf just screwed the pouch and got caught.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t through the &#8220;lie&#8221; tag around.  The Democrats have been caught far too often to get any traction throwing that around.</p>
<p>The government it the problem.  The two things that need fixing are:</p>
<p>1 &#8211; Tort reform (any system that requires someone to pay 6 figure premiums per year is broken)</p>
<p>2 &#8211; Allow private sector insurance companies to spread their coverage across state lines (thus spredding the cost across more people lowering the liability to each)</p>
<p>MINOR regulation changes to insurance regulations will take care of the rest.  </p>
<p>If we spike the &#8220;Recovery&#8221; bills and get back our trillion dollars we will be very able to cover any costs to those who don&#8217;t have health care. Not free though.  Anything free is abused.</p>
<p>And while we are at it lets stop calling the Recovery bills what they are, the EVERY PET DEMOCRATIC PROJECT NOT PASSED IN THE LAST 20 YEARS bill.</p>
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		<title>By: ltw</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/gop-touts-alternatives-to-obamacare/#comment-357955</link>
		<dc:creator>ltw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 02:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree jharp this is exactly like Joe the Plumber - you&#039;re going to picking on technicalities to discredit her story without addressing the actual issue.  You still haven&#039;t answered my question about how long you&#039;d like to wait for an operation while going blind - and in fact looking again the waiting list was just to see a specialist, not necessarily for something to be done about it. And drop the was or wasn&#039;t a tumor bullshit, diseases don&#039;t fall into the &quot;tumor life-threatening, everything else ok&quot; category you seem to think - cancer is not the only thing that kills people.

Notice too that it was the Canadian medical system that diagnosed a tumor, so let&#039;s add misdiagnosis to the list of failures.  Of course that was just a preliminary diagnosis which I&#039;m sure would have been corrected when she saw a specialist and had more tests - in several months and after going completely blind.

So you going to answer any of that or is pinning another lie on your political opposition more important?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree jharp this is exactly like Joe the Plumber &#8211; you&#8217;re going to picking on technicalities to discredit her story without addressing the actual issue.  You still haven&#8217;t answered my question about how long you&#8217;d like to wait for an operation while going blind &#8211; and in fact looking again the waiting list was just to see a specialist, not necessarily for something to be done about it. And drop the was or wasn&#8217;t a tumor bullshit, diseases don&#8217;t fall into the &#8220;tumor life-threatening, everything else ok&#8221; category you seem to think &#8211; cancer is not the only thing that kills people.</p>
<p>Notice too that it was the Canadian medical system that diagnosed a tumor, so let&#8217;s add misdiagnosis to the list of failures.  Of course that was just a preliminary diagnosis which I&#8217;m sure would have been corrected when she saw a specialist and had more tests &#8211; in several months and after going completely blind.</p>
<p>So you going to answer any of that or is pinning another lie on your political opposition more important?</p>
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		<title>By: jharp</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/gop-touts-alternatives-to-obamacare/#comment-357353</link>
		<dc:creator>jharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Comparing Shona Holmes to Joe the Plumber–does that mean Democratic party opposition research operatives will scour her private records and do their best to crucify a private citizen?&quot;

Joe The Plumber = Joe Not The Plumber + Joe Gets Tax Cuts Under Obama (completely contradictory to the GOP claims)

Shona Holmes = Shona Not The Cancer Patient + Shona doesn&#039;t have a tumor(completely contradictory to the GOP claims)

Can&#039;t you see the similarities. Now I&#039;ll openly admit that I don&#039;t know if it is Shona who lied or her GOP handlers.

I&#039;m all in it is the GOP who lied. I don&#039;t think many people are so low that they&#039;d lie about cancer. But the GOP is clearly that low. Hell, they lied to start a war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Comparing Shona Holmes to Joe the Plumber–does that mean Democratic party opposition research operatives will scour her private records and do their best to crucify a private citizen?&#8221;</p>
<p>Joe The Plumber = Joe Not The Plumber + Joe Gets Tax Cuts Under Obama (completely contradictory to the GOP claims)</p>
<p>Shona Holmes = Shona Not The Cancer Patient + Shona doesn&#8217;t have a tumor(completely contradictory to the GOP claims)</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t you see the similarities. Now I&#8217;ll openly admit that I don&#8217;t know if it is Shona who lied or her GOP handlers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all in it is the GOP who lied. I don&#8217;t think many people are so low that they&#8217;d lie about cancer. But the GOP is clearly that low. Hell, they lied to start a war.</p>
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		<title>By: jharp</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/gop-touts-alternatives-to-obamacare/#comment-357346</link>
		<dc:creator>jharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kentuckyliz:

&quot;If you think those systems are so great, go live there and leave us freedom loving Americans alone.&quot;

Always get a kick out wingnut ignorance.

Newsflash! I&#039;ve got every right to voice my opinion and do everything I can to get America&#039;s health care system costs in line with the rest of the world.
 
That&#039;s just the way it is.

And if you don&#039;t like it, YOU can leave.

Why do you hate the bill of rights?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kentuckyliz:</p>
<p>&#8220;If you think those systems are so great, go live there and leave us freedom loving Americans alone.&#8221;</p>
<p>Always get a kick out wingnut ignorance.</p>
<p>Newsflash! I&#8217;ve got every right to voice my opinion and do everything I can to get America&#8217;s health care system costs in line with the rest of the world.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s just the way it is.</p>
<p>And if you don&#8217;t like it, YOU can leave.</p>
<p>Why do you hate the bill of rights?</p>
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		<title>By: jharp</title>
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		<dc:creator>jharp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally found it. Here, then, is the Republican 10-Point Plan for Health Care:

   1. 50 Million Uninsured in America
   2. Another 25 Million Underinsured
   3. Employer-Based Coverage Plummets Below 60%
   4. Employer Health Costs to Jump by 9% in 2010
   5. One in Five Americans Forced to Postpone Care
   6. 62% of U.S. Bankruptcies Involve Medical Bills
   7. Current Health Care Costs Already Fueling Job Losses
   8. 94% of Health Insurance Markets in U.S Now &quot;Highly Concentrated&quot;
   9. Dramatic Decline in Emergency Room Capacity
  10. Perpetuating Red State Health Care Failure</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally found it. Here, then, is the Republican 10-Point Plan for Health Care:</p>
<p>   1. 50 Million Uninsured in America<br />
   2. Another 25 Million Underinsured<br />
   3. Employer-Based Coverage Plummets Below 60%<br />
   4. Employer Health Costs to Jump by 9% in 2010<br />
   5. One in Five Americans Forced to Postpone Care<br />
   6. 62% of U.S. Bankruptcies Involve Medical Bills<br />
   7. Current Health Care Costs Already Fueling Job Losses<br />
   8. 94% of Health Insurance Markets in U.S Now &#8220;Highly Concentrated&#8221;<br />
   9. Dramatic Decline in Emergency Room Capacity<br />
  10. Perpetuating Red State Health Care Failure</p>
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		<title>By: kentuckyliz</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/gop-touts-alternatives-to-obamacare/#comment-357304</link>
		<dc:creator>kentuckyliz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comparing Shona Holmes to Joe the Plumber--does that mean Democratic party opposition research operatives will scour her private records and do their best to crucify a private citizen?

I call bullshit on jharp.  I guess it&#039;s okay to go blind on a waiting list.  Maybe for you buddy, but not for me and mine.

I have already had my life saved by being an American in America receiving prompt, high-quality American health care...and I pay far less than Canadians and Brits, when you compare their taxes and co-pays to my insurance premiums and co-pays. And I am a refugee from the People&#039;s Republik of Kanada and still have friends there...and my parents are immigrants from England and my extended family there includes a lot of doctors including a research oncologist and a world-class epidemiologist with an OBE. They tell me I&#039;m &quot;lucky&quot; to have got the treatment I did, because UKNHS/NICE denies it.

So I call a vigorous bullshit flag on the play penalty on jharp. If you think those systems are so great, go live there and leave us freedom loving Americans alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comparing Shona Holmes to Joe the Plumber&#8211;does that mean Democratic party opposition research operatives will scour her private records and do their best to crucify a private citizen?</p>
<p>I call bullshit on jharp.  I guess it&#8217;s okay to go blind on a waiting list.  Maybe for you buddy, but not for me and mine.</p>
<p>I have already had my life saved by being an American in America receiving prompt, high-quality American health care&#8230;and I pay far less than Canadians and Brits, when you compare their taxes and co-pays to my insurance premiums and co-pays. And I am a refugee from the People&#8217;s Republik of Kanada and still have friends there&#8230;and my parents are immigrants from England and my extended family there includes a lot of doctors including a research oncologist and a world-class epidemiologist with an OBE. They tell me I&#8217;m &#8220;lucky&#8221; to have got the treatment I did, because UKNHS/NICE denies it.</p>
<p>So I call a vigorous bullshit flag on the play penalty on jharp. If you think those systems are so great, go live there and leave us freedom loving Americans alone.</p>
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