Eisenhower did in fact speak of the military-industrial complex, “the conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry…new in the American experience.” Eisenhower considered it, like the “scientifictechnological elite” to be among the trends that should be watched for their potential to acquire undue influence over the country. He did not speak of it, as does Vivo, as if it were some malignant conspiratorial entity actually dictating policy. Saying things like “But the military-industrial complex won’t give up the billions of $’s that they profit there regardless of human lives lost” is in fact a sophomoric (and paranoid) distortion of what Ike said.

I believe it was outgoing president Dwight Eisenhower in a 1960 speech who first warned about the military-industrial complex. I’m surprised that anyone would call the leading US general in WW II “sophmoric.”

The Government Accountability Office (GAO) released a study of weapons procurement programs back in February of this year. 66 of 94 programs reviewed were running a collective $268 billion or so over projected budget. I can understand a few billion over, but 268!!

I find it amusing and sad that Fox News, tea party citizens, talk radio types like Rush, and posters on these PJM threads are blistering Obama about stimulus payments and ACORN, but continually ignore defense contractors lining their pockets at taxpayer expense. If you want to have credibility in opposing excessive & wasteful government spending, you got to be in for it all.

‘the military-industrial complex’…..you’re such a tool. It’s hard to control my bladder when you spout such sophmoric crap. I gotta guess that you’re in you’re late teens or early twenties. You’re so funny. Keep entertaining us with your vapidity, it helps lighten the mood.

Moderate-Independents voted Obama and the Democrat Party into acquiring complete control of the the White House and Congress so if Moderate-Independents wish to stop the madness they put into power they have much work to do to convince me they know what they’re doing.

Moderate-Independents made this mess, and they better quickly figure out a way to clean it up.

Part of that blame put at the feet of the popular news media, which have made it their business to so damage it.
The other of that blame I put on the Republicans themselves, who under Bush, spent more like Democrats, and in many cases behaved with the same licentiousness, only without the forgiveness of their constituents.

That’s why I said in my opening comment that things aren’t bad enough at this moment.

The voters feel like battered wives going from bad to worse right now.

So, is this a foreign affairs matter? Partially. But when you have Canadian firms (as well as firms based in countries other than the US) being frozen out of work made available to American based firms, you can bet that this is more than a foreign affairs matter. It is an economic matter.

Plus, there is this matter of firms being barred
from US stimulus funding who hire people who are
not American citizens.

Plus, what about the role the United States plays
in distorting trade via excruciating subsidies that make foreign aid necessary.

These are not just foreign affair matters.

Plus, the matter of the same mistakes being made
in regards to the financial maelstrom. Sloppy research, as pointed to in “Check the Numbers” by
McKitrick and McCullough, continues to haunt the global financial market.