GOP Can’t Afford to Alienate Hispanics
Republicans can be so shortsighted. They really don’t seem to understand the harm they’re doing to themselves, their party, and their future electability when they anger and alienate Hispanics — one of the fastest-growing parts of the electorate — by making dumb moves on immigration.
The latest dumb move: House Speaker John Boehner seems poised to appoint a pair of extremist and “enforcement-only” lawmakers — Rep. Steve King, R-IA, and Rep. Lamar Smith, R-TX — to key positions with direct oversight of the immigration issue. There are those Republicans who look at immigration in all its complexities, who recognize it as an economic issue, who are careful to use measured and respectful language, and who look for solutions to problems and not just sound bites that rile up the base. King and Smith are not those kinds of Republicans. They’re the more basic models that naively believe the only reason we have illegal immigrants in this country is because we lack the will to deport more of them.
Not surprisingly, at least one prominent group of Hispanic Republicans has already objected to these potential appointments. The leaders of Somos Republicans, which calls itself the largest and fastest growing Hispanic Republican organization in the country, recently sent Boehner a letter asking him to reconsider the appointments.
Of particular concern to the group is the fact that King and Smith have both declared their support for gutting the 14th Amendment to eliminate birthright citizenship for the U.S.-born children of illegal immigrants. So much for conservatives pretending to be strict constructionists. Going after kids is a suicide mission that will bring Latinos out of the woodwork to vote against Republicans for the next fifty years.
When Republicans pull stunts like this, they cut their throats with a constituency that would normally be a natural-fit for the Republican Party because it is conservative on social issues. They’re also playing with fire demographically since Latinos already account for nearly 20 percent of the U.S. population, and they’re on track to account for a third by 2030. And they’re making life easy for Democrats who don’t deserve to have the level of support they have with Latino voters.
I agree with Ruben and the Democrats. The US should be united with Mexico. One country it should be. And the US should extend all its benefits to include all Mexicans. Better not to offend any Hispanics feelings. American voters? who cares? Also any law created by republicans should not be enforced. Democrat laws are the only valid laws. Republican laws are evil and unfair.
What part of Mexico do you want “to be united with”? The vast herds
of low IQ mestizos that after 400 years of European influence have kept a fundamentally rich country at the subsistence level? Or do you want the USA to dilute itself with 100 million more welfare recipients all for the
sake of “diversity”? Cant get enough gang members, teenage mothers,
tattoos, graffitti and “in your face” macho swaggering eh? Turning
Los Angeles, Houston, Stockton, Salinas, Sacramento,Fresno and Tucson
into Third World ghettos wasnt enough? Hmm?
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“So much for conservatives pretending to be strict constructionists.”
Nice misconstruing of the term, Miss Navarrette. Actually no, I take that back; that’s a grotesquely misleading sentence on what it means to be strict constructionist and loose constructionist. Wanting to repeal or fix something in the Constitution does not make one a loose constructionist, nor does opposing changes make one a strict constructionist.
Strict constructionism means one interprets the Constitution narrowly and tries to frame the powers, procedures, and laws it gives in the context of when it was written. It has nothing to do with repealing amendments.
Miss Navarrette, aside from my disagreement with some of the specific policies that you think the GOP needs enact to do so, I largely agree that the Republican Party needs to connect with Latino voters and is not doing a great job at that task. However, you are misrepresenting the Republican Party as hypocrites and this is factually wrong.
and you expected more from Ruben?
Unite with Mexico? Why stop there? I know several illegal immigrants from Eastern Europe and China. They are not as much pro-America as they are anti-their-own-personal-poverty. Several of these folks have stated that once their mother country modernizes and living conditions improve, they want to go back. In the meantime, they’re happy to leech off America. Why not annex all of those countries whose immigrants are so desperate to come here that the first thing they do is break our immigration laws? Afterall, America is so wealthy that we should all accept a lower living standard in order that those far and wide should improve their own positions. I should work hard so that my income can be redistributed to the poor illegals. Oops, guess that outs me as a petty xenophobe. P.S. Ruben: notice that I did not mention Latinos in this post.
I agree. Obviously anyone who disapproves of illegal immigration is nothing but a closet xenophobe who will attempt to stop all immigration; there’s really no other logical reason to disapprove of illegal immigration.
The Democrats, on the other hand, really feel bad about the illegal immigrants who die or are murdered trying to reach jobs-available locations. They feel almost as bad about illegals who are victimized by employers or criminals, solely because illegals are less likely to report the victimization. Because the Democrats reallyreally care. (More important, of course, is that a dead illegal cannot vote for Democrats. Well, he or she can still vote, but it’s more difficult, especially anywhere photo i.d. is required.)
Still, can we really expect our busy Congress to think through a method of allowing more immigrants to enter legally? I’m afraid that’s a little toooo complicated. Worse, what if someone asked them to read the bill, or even to understand it?! HORRORS!!
There is a marked difference in supporting legal immigration and opposed to illegals breaking the law by entering our country. Get caught in Mexico without a visa/permission, and see how fast you wind up UNDER the jail.
I’ve taken exception upon many occasions with Navarrette (his column is in the local newspaper), and I have had NO qualms in emailing him and telling him what I think. Especially when it comes to the poor, downtrodden illegals.
You better rethink LEGAL IMMIGRATION and do it fast.
In the past 20 years we have admitted 23 MILLION LEGAL IMMIGRANTS
11 MILLION ARE NOW ON SOME FORM OF WELFARE. Our LEGAL IMMIGRATION POLICY
serves to do one thing..IMPORT POVERTY. Every other nation
reserves 7-10% of its admissions for charity cases. The USA reverses
that. We only ask that 7% not become a welfare burden to be paid for by the white middle class.
Every other nation asks that immigrants have high level job
skills, accumulated wealth, and cultural similarity..in order that the
immigrant contribute to the host country. The USA only asks that the
white taxpayer keep on paying and paying and paying.
Our LEGAL immigration policy is the prime vehicle of American
self destruction as envisioned by Cultural Marxism..aka Political
Correctness aka “Diversity”
WE now
This has to be a joke…
Can we unite with Canada, too? They have all that oil shale and great potatoes.
And beer! Don’t forget the great beer!
Mmm, I miss Molsan and Labatts…
NO! With relatives, property, dual citizenship and stock in Canadian beer and oil shale companies, O! cold Western Canada will be my family’s refuge. Build the fence now! (Along U.S.-Canada border) If they reach 54-40, then we fight.
This is sarcasm folks. Relax.
oh yeah…uh..we all realize Ruben’s article is a joke, but..does he know this?
Because Navarette is a proud member of the Republican Party, he wants to warn us of our folly. Why, gee, thanks. /sarc
Hey, Navarette, Hispanics are NOT a monolithic block. Many do vote Republican, about 30%. The other 70% do not. The bulk of that 70% are MEXICANS. Those numbers are reversed with Cubans. That means the rest reflect overall society (doing the math).
You, being a Mexican, think your countrymen are reflective of Hispanics overall. They are not.
Thanks for being a concern troll… one who gets his own column. (sigh)
Don’t forget the Puerto Ricans, the ignored Hispanic voting block that are born US Citizens.
Lucky undeserving bastards. And dont you think that with two elderly brothers at the helm and no large Soviet presence in Cuba, a couple of Guard units from South Florida can do what the Bay of Pigs group couldnt?
What?
Ruben is as far left as they come. Who exactly informed you he was a Republican?
Good Greif!
Good point, Marc. Instead of worrying about alienating the Hispanics, we should be deporting them–the illegals, that is. The remaining ones that have strove for and earned US citizenship are probably working for a living and paying taxes and would be inclined to align themselves with the GOP anyway.
Oh good god. I suppose “measured and respectful language” is anti-dictionary drivel like “undocumented workers” instead of “illegal aliens”?
And Ruben, constructionists are hardly obligated to interpret the 14th Amendment, passed after the Civil War to ensure American citizenship for freed slaves, as a promise of citizenship for the kids of people who crash the borders. “Constructionist” mi pie.
Republicans gut reforms that would help “Latino children”? Do you mean to make the slightest attempt or show of distinguishing between American children and children of other countries? There must be hundreds of millions of “Latino children.” Let’s accommodate them all!
Republicans are the ones cutting their own throats? Really? If Latinos fall for the Democrat siren song, they can see their future in Black ghettos, where families, communities, and individuals have been destroyed by welfare statism. Who’s cutting their own throat now?
Exactly. Rubens implication is that if we dont give them what they want they will cut our throats.
Let them have California, etc. Let’s get tribal. Whites get a consciousness: net effect: our country gets smaller but more unified.
Ruben is a one trick pony. Every post is somehow about amnesty.
I finally figured out what drvies me crazy about R. Navarette’s articles. He’s prejudiced. He has a monolithic view of groups. He claims to understand what ALL Hispanics want and tars all those on the righ with the same brush. The real world is more nuanced, yet he studiously avoids that nuance in EVERY SINGLE ONE of his pieces.
Why does PJM contunue to publish him? Because look at the number of comments he generates. We should appreciate PJM for doing this, it is good to have a diversity of view points. I just wish R. Navawere a little more thoughtful and fact based.
How does a Brazilian react when one describes him/her of being “Hispanic”?
Is there a legitimate reason that Pajamas Media doesn’t apply their guidelines of avoiding, “ad hominem attacks” to Mr. Navarrette?
I think that’s because most of the people here are attacking his arguments, and not him. I haven’t seen anyone say “He’s ugly and his mom dresses him funny” or anything else, without relating it back to one of the arguments he made in his column. If you call someone a “one-trick pony” or a “racist” or even a “jerk” or “ugly” and then relate that charge back to a point he made, that’s a rebuttal with support. It may be wrong or ill-considered, but not ad hominem.
Just Curious didn’t ask about the comments, but about Mr. Navarrette, which I assume refers to Mr. Navarrette’s ad hominem attacks.
Ah, I see, that, mea culpa.
Have you seen him??? you are right on the money.He has a perm for what little hair he has and his Mum still buys his clothes. It really does look like an ‘out of work mecican in a clown suit’.
Could you please tell me what nationality spells Rubin ,that way ???
Have you seen him??? you are right on the money.He has a perm for what little hair he has and his Mum still buys his clothes. It really does look like an ‘out of work Mexican in a clown suit’.
Could you please tell me what nationality spells Rubin ,that way ???
We must have the strength to debate fairly and persuasively. That does not require impuning the character (or hair or name) of our opponent.
Mr. Navarette is like a broken clock, correct two moments a day. This is NOT one of those moments. He apparently hold nothing but scorn for the concepts of nationhood and cultural preservation, and seeks only to undermine both.
The 14th Amendment was written to protect former slaves and their descendants from being deprived of their citizenship rights. There was no contemplation of it applying to non-citizens, that is what the “under its jurisdiction” clause means. The 14th has been corrupted by court decisions and that corruption preserved by stare decesis. About a third of American citizens of hispanic descent support strict enforcement of immigration law, as to not do so places undo suspicion upon their legality. If the law was clearly changed, that percentage would skyrocket, because hispanic citizens tend to be very serious about conforming with the law.
“cultural preservation”
code for “keep america white”
Nope it means keep much of white America going forward. Its natural for aby ethnic group to defend its culture its interests. The NAACP and La Raza are already teaching us how to.
I second what JL says above. Even better, turn it all over to Mexico, so we can savor the joys of filthy streets, kidnapping, children combing city dumps for something to eat, and more or less constant gunfire that would turn our entire nation into one big Chicago.
At least in Mexico, direct payoffs to officials gets you left alone. Here, we call those payoffs “permits”, or “licenses”.
And, in Mexico, when an official is bought, he stays bought, or his body is found in the street, or at the dump without a head.
Yes, we should immediately turn the United States of America over to the Estados Unidos Mexicanos.
Latinos will never support Republicans until hell freezes over, so it is pointless to suck up to them. Getting rid of the illegals is the only answer.
I totally agree with you mikidiki,you took the words out of my mouth. If the Republicans did everything that Navarette advises them to do, he would still vote for Dems. I used to read his column in a Phoenix paper years ago, his tune never changes. Hispanic good, caucasian racist. Over the years I have known Argentinians, Peruvians, Chileans, Brazilians, all legal immigrants. All making something of themselves and contributing productively. Such a difference between these folk and the illegal border crashers. As for the person who mentioned the Eastern European and Chinese illegals….the difference there is that they adjust, learn the language and produce. None of their children have to be taught in their own language and frequently these children become the valedictorians in their local high schools.
Hopefully the TP aparathicks will keep their 50 cals trained on the RINOS to enforce this political outcome.
Alienate hispanics? So hispanics are offended because they are expected to obey the laws of this country just like any one else? Would this even be a conversation if it were germans, chineese or any other group thats illegal? I doubt it. So im asking why hispanics feel they have an inherant right to break the laws? because they pick some fruit or empty the trash once in awhile? all the complaints illegals have would never happen if they were not illegal. you break the law you deal with the consequences. I know way to many LEGAL immigrants. hispanic and otherwise who have faced harships far worse and yet they seem to do it legally. Frankly Ruben there is NO good reason for illegal immigration and NO good reason they should stay. Allowing them to only encourages more criminal behavior as proven by the fact we granted amnesty multiple times. Frankly if hispanics are offended by being forced to obey the laws then too bad. GET OUT. quit demanding special rights for illegals then whine about being associated with them. And we all know Ruben that this article would not exist if your last name was not ‘Navarette’ This is MY country, not due to color but because my father immigrated here LEGALLY and swore allegance to AMERICA. he became AMERICAN ,not ______-american. not a german living or working in america. I will never accept illegal immigration. and i am about to the point where i will support any and all discrimination against illegals. I want their lives to be as hard as possible here. I want them to get taken advantage of and ripped off as much as possible. If you can do that to me than i can to illegals
Oh, hey, look… more of the racist, Ruben Navarrette’s demands that we cater to the desires of his race. When are you going to start putting your country ahead of your race?
He is. That would be Mexico.
Ken in order to put your country ahead of your race you must act in a racially cohesive manner as a foundation. That is the achilles of whites. They don’t get it as NAACP and LaRaza grow and grow…
We can extend citizenship to all Mexican citizens once the Marines march through Mexico City.
again?
There is a big difference between being an advocate for open borders vs. recognizing reality. Controlling the border should be presented as a security issue – no more, no less. In the meantime, it is unrealistic to deport tens of millions of illegals. Unfortunately, people who scream about “amnesty” make it nearly impossible to deal with the issue in a practical way.
Deport those who commit crimes (other than having crossed the border), but place others on a path to citizenship so we know who they are, how many are here, and can offer them the protections available to other American workers. No more jobs at slave-labor rates. The unholy alliance between business who want cheap labor and liberal ballot box stuffers has to end.
One other thing – conservatives who insist on deportation make an easy target for the racebaiters of the left. I’ll be honest – even I, as a libertarian/conservative, have had the word “bigot” cross my mind when listening to some of my brethren on the right breath fire about illegals. This may not be the case, but some sound as if they object to the mere fact of Hispanics being here, illegal or not – especially when they start pushing measures to make English the official language. Sorry to be so brutally frank, but that’s reality – and that’s the author’s point: the GOP is risking permanent minority status in years to come by alienating such a large demographic that will only get bigger as time goes on.
CA didn’t become a lib stronghold until short-sighted GOP candidates went overboard on this very issue. Wouldn’t it have been better to have a conservative in office dealing with it in a reasonable way, rather than the lib free-for-all giveaways they have now?
I fully recognize this is a complex issue – but being dogmatic and presenting it as an us vs them (Americans vs illegals) issue alienates millions of people. How about presenting as an us vs. those benefiting from the current immoral and corrupt system issue?
Your self-admitted prejudices do not make us racists.
And we sure as heck CAN deport them. May not be able to get them all, but that doesn’t mean it’s not worth doing.
Funny, but I don’t remember admitting to any prejudices – except maybe for suspecting people who talk like bigots of being…well, bigots.
But maybe you’re right. Maybe we CAN deport them all.
I have an idea…why don’t we dress the ICE officials in brown shirts when they go on their anti-immigrant deportation raids? And if any of the deportees have kids who were born in this country, well that’s just tough, right?
Hey the “brown shirt” comment just gave you away. You ain’t no libertarian, more like the classic far left loon. Any reference to anything related to the Nazis is the prerogative of the progressives. So you just lost your credibility. Yes, as many of the illegals as possible should be deported and their children with them. Like others said already, the 14th amendment was written for the slaves who were forcibly brought to the US territories, and it does not extend to illegal aliens.
You may not remember admitting to any prejudices, but your words are dripping with them.
Bigots also include people who hate their own race and confer destruction on them.
Yes, we can change the ethnical dilution of our country by simply enforcing the law. Its a no brainer. Its worth doing because the alterbative is a country not worth keeping anyway.
Why do I want to be in the minority appeasing former minoroties as they sit about living off my tax money? WTF good will that be in 20 years? FIght now, and fiht like white people actually give a crap about this country. Truth is we will never go back to segregation despite racial identity and minoroties will benefit from the trickle down effect of liberty and wealth. The alterbative is a bannana republic.
Self-deportation is still the most sensible and effective method combined with a BIG A&& FENCE.
We don’t have to deport them.
We simply enforce the existing laws against being in the country illegally, working illegally with stolen or fraudulent Social Security numbers and deny illegal immigrants government benefits, and they’ll self-deport, because the gravy train will have closed.
Problem solved. No brown shirts needed.
Oh, and Swissik is right. Your brown shirt comment labels you a lefty. You’re no more a conservative than I am the Pink Panther. Go back to HuffPo for more training.
If we began to enforce the employment restrictions contained in the Simplson-Mazzoli Act of 1986, deportations would not neccessary, as they would self-deport when they find that there are no jobs for illegals.
Multitudes of rationalizations. Is that the best way to appeal to the Gringos? Well, it isn’t going to work. We are fed up being the minority whipping post. You bring your own lunch money to school from now on!
Thanks for this essay. I’ve thought the same thing – the immigrants I know from Mexico share my conservative values, and why would they continue to vote for liberal policies?
The problem has been growing ever since LBJ’s immigration laws were passed which effectively made illegal the age-old practice of migrant workers. Progressively, taxpayers have become responsible for medical care covering these people. In parallel, the corrupt governments of Latin America worsened the chances of the poor south of the border, pressing them to find a way to survive. After 45 years of ignoring the issue, coupled with the increased plight of people in Mexico, the numbers of non-English speaking illegal immigrants exploded and grew. So now we have a common situation where the parents are illegal, but their children are citizens. That’s the real core of the political issue.
Trying to secure borders through guards and fences is as impossible and expensive as the war on drugs; if you stop the flow along the southern border of the U.S., the path will divert to the Gulf shores….
Germany has no such problem, because they don’t target the immigrants; instead, they have a law that states hiring an illegal immigrant is a crime, first offense, that lands the employer in jail. This is just common sense. Had that been the law and had that been enforced, there would be no illegal immigrant ‘problem’.
How to fix the problem? If a Republican politician proposed the following, what would happen? Would it help or hurt the Republican cause? Change the immigration laws to enable those living here already who are parents of citizens to easily gain citizenship. Couple that with a copy of Germany’s law for other illegal immigrants.
Don’t give LBJ the credit (blame), those changes were the result of Edward Moore Kennedy’s unhappiness with the then-current immigration rules, so he changed them through legislation (if I were the cynic many accuse me of being, I would say that he was attempting to cut down the competition from having more – and better – Irishmen in the country).
No, I think LBJ instead had an inkling of the injurious effects the Great Society might (and did) have on work ethic in the blue-collar black community and he needed a replacement source of scut labor. Also nothing brings on enlistments to the Army (Vietnam was escalating) like the closing of entry-level job opportunities in your hometown. Besides, in 1965, half the Europeans could not leave without getting shot at (Eastern Bloc) and the rest were under the sway of socialist democracy utopia and really didnt want to leave.
Why go all the way to Germany? Let’s copy immigration laws from a much closer nation… Mexico. I mean, groups like La Raza want to take over parts of America and turn them into Mexico, let’s start with the immigration laws.
Ruben: With each article you write… you become more irrelevant.
The legal Latino population is waking up. Conservative by nature they see what the likes of you and the hard left have wrought upon their lives.
Unfettered illegal immigration has destroyed their neigborhoods and burdened society with the entitlement largess of your left wing policies to the point of bankrupting the entire free market system… financially and morally.
Calling Lamar Smith an “extremist” is beyond the pale.
Your take on the economic impact is comically wrong. A recent study that just took into account the economic impact of illegals on the 10 largest federal government agencies budgets indicates that the net NEGATIVE impact of the sum total of productive value of each illegal immigrant versus the public funds they utilize was over $6,000. That is a negative $6k+ my friend.
Now add the 50 billion lost annually going south from our economy.
Now add all the state government costs (avg 4k per illegal school child).
Now add in all the free medical care
Add in hundreds of other negative economic impacts.
Add all these costs to the negative $6k+
Comprende?
All we ask of our government is to enforce the laws. If that is stupid or extremist to you, then please try to immigrate to Mexico.
That will be a blast of reality even a libtard like you may get.
Hoping for the brown hope to become the great white hope is folding your cards too early. We are still the majority in this country, and have the power to stop it all. But do we have the will to break the matrix?
There is no such thing as “brown” hope or “white” hope. There is human hope. To construct any argument on this distinction is to buy into the fallacy of the lefts argument in general. Racial overtones are a particularly snarky presentation of the zero sum mentality of the left. They are stuck in the cast system of class warfare so eloquently presented by Marx and Engles. To frame any argument in this way is to accept this false premise.
Let’s face it, Republicans can never out-promise Democrats. Democrats will promise any group whose votes they covet the moon, the stars and rainbows forever. Republicans usually stop at the stars. If identity politics is to be the norm then it will be a Democratic era. Republicans should not get caught in this trap. We should appeal to individuals, not groups.
As long as Latinos vote as Latinos, they will be like African-Americans, cattle in the Democrat’s corral. When minorities stop listening to professional race baiters and vote for their individual interest, then Republicans can win a fair share of their votes. Until then we cannot out-promise or out-demogogue the Democrats. There is no use in trying.
It is the focus on “social issues” that has been one of the banes to the Republican Party (and makes the Democrats an attractive alternative). Should it then begin to pandering to an illegal influx of Islamic workers as we see in Europe because they are strong on traditional and conservative “social issues?” The Republicans should focus on the economic issues such as how the continual erosion of wages from illegal workers hurts all legal residents equally (as well as the extensive benefits that reward breaking the law).
Why do Hispanics allow themselves to be turned into a group so easily and why should the party of the Individual pander to groups instead of more clearly articulating how it will empower each and every legal person within our borders regardless of race?
Respectfully,
A Libertarian voter
Here’s Ruben’s fundamental problem: “In recent years, Democrats have thwarted education reform that would have helped Latino children, killed immigration reform that would have provided a pathway to earned legal status for Latino immigrants, undermined trade deals that would have benefited Latinos, and stood in the way of meaningful reform of the Social Security system that would ease the tax burden on young Latino professionals.”
It’s all about what benefits Latinos.
I have two words for you Ruben that I’m sure you can understand:
Somos Americanos.
Learn it, live it, love it.
First– for the millionth time, if an entity wants to amend the Constitution (even amend an amendment) they are STRICT CONSTRUCTIONISTS. The Constitution allows for amendments, after all, and that progressive argument is getting really old. It makes me doubt the premise (or at least the the amount of thought that went into) of the rest of your column.
Secondly, as a Texas conservative who is married to a first generation American of Mexican heritage, I am a little tired of it being insinuated (subtly and not-so-subtly) that if one is against illegal immigration, they are just a stone’s throw away from demanding segregation and Jim Crow for Hispanics. That is the Progressive line against people like me, and even though the last 17 years of my life belies that thought, I still find myself forced to defend it. The trick is not to bend, but to educate– Progressive arguments, like the one you offer, are lies for the most part (are there racists? Yes, as many progressive ones as conservative.)
Finally, like the Progressives, you offer the idea that Hispanics are this monolithic block of people that move and vote like a hive mind. It’s insulting to my wife and her family, sir, who have voted Republican since GWB ran for governor, and are staunchly anti-illegal immigration– if they did it right, so can everyone else. To advocate any less is yet another slap in the face to my extended family.
Now, if we want to have an honest, educational debate about reforming the entire immigration system– which needs it desperately, and my mother-in-law (who waited 15 years to get her citizenship, despite marrying an American of Mexican descent and having two children here) would agree wholeheartedly to that premise– then let’s have it.
But stop insulting me and my family by using progressive memes to frame the debate.
And I too am tired of being framed as a white supremacist for desiring ethnic advocacy already possessed by hispanics and blacks with LaRaza and NAACP. The progressives have framed any opposition to their agenda as racist, and we are learning how to combat them.
But you are a white supremist, Mugwa, why deny it? White people have done a lot of great things. They’re just not allowed to get any credit for doing them.
Know why?
Because white people invented all this diversity, PC, egalitarian, racist and anti-racist crap.
They got this idea that they could raise everyone up. Ha!
Of course, they got this idea AFTER they spent milennia acting like everyone else–and, since no one else had those crazy ideas they tried to force it on them(because they were too stupid to come up with it themselves). And that led to blaming themselves.
So stop trying to hide it, Mugwa.
For Mr. Navarrette to call someone else’s actions ‘dumb’ is below the pale.
Mr. Navarrette is a typical journalist of Hispanic descent. HE LOOKS ONLY SKIN DEEP rathrt than the CORE problem. Our porous border and the laxadaisical approach to repatriotizing aliens to their homeland.
Illegal immigration is not a ‘complex issue’. Navarrette and his ilk MAKE IT THAT WAY to further encourage ‘amnesty’.
Instead of questioning the motives of a party, you have to ask yourself, living in California, why do you encourage California’s further descent into 3rd World obscurity?
I’ve lived in the Bay Area, SoCal and visited everywhere else in between the Golden state. Mr. Navarrette and other like-minded people will NEVER acknowledge the armpit California has become due in large part to aliens.
Due to Mr. Navarrette’s ‘thinking’, because California has lowered its standards immensely, the country should follow suit.
Ruben, isn’t that really the basis of why your old man’s native Mexico is a 3rd World hellhole?
There’s no need for ‘deportation’ of misdemeanor breaking illegal aliens citizens (FYI- Crossing the border illegally is a misdemeanor). Enforce the laws already on the book, we HAVE to implement E-verify nationwide, then the aliens will leave by fruition.
As for the legal Americans of Hispanic descent who are opposed to amnesty – there are many I call my friends – need to be more vocal about ending the erosion of disrespecting the rule of law.
Opposing all illegal immigration – which impacts Mexicans and other central Americans more because the comprise a large share of illegal immigrants – is not anti-Hispanic.
Insisting that all immigrants become fluent in English, function primarily in English and commit themselves to American cultural values (especially the rule of law) is not anti-Hispanic.
Deporting all non-citizens who are here illegally, or who commit crimes here, is not anti-Hispanic.
Opposing the provision of any government-funded services whatsoever to illegal immigrants (other than emergency medical care immediately prior to summary deportation) is not anti-Hispanic.
Favoring increased immigration only of those who have skills useful in the United States is not anti-Hispanic.
To argue otherwise, is to somehow claim “Hispanics” have some claim of right to be here that other people in the world do not. Such a claim is racist nonsense.
I agree that Republicans should not alienate Hispanics. Ruben can do that for them.
There already are conservatives who talk about eliminating legal immigration too:
Mark Krikorian and his Center for Immigration Studies, often write columns in National Review. And their position is that America has too many people in it already, and we don’t need any more, either legally or illegally.
http://www.cis.org/NewCase
If Krikorian’s views had held sway 100 years ago, I would not be alive in America today. My grandmother on my mother’s side was a legal immigrant (from Russia), but my grandfather on my mother’s side was an illegal immigrant (also from Russia). His papers were not in order. Besides that, he was a Communist and was very active in the New York Communist Party during the 1930s.
But I have been a loyal and patriotic citizen of the United States all my life.
America is unique among all Western countries, in that our “culture” isn’t based on one people, one race, or blood and soil as are so many European cultures and the Japanese culture. America’s culture is what America’s people–most of them immigrants–brought with them. All under the same “roof”: the United States Constitution.
There’s no logical reason why Latinos can’t bring their unique heritage into America’s culture too.
The reason this hasn’t been happening recently, is that modern liberals insist that from now on, minorities should remain a breed apart. Instead of a melting pot, liberals now preach multiculturalism, the same sort of nonsense that destroyed Yugoslavia and has divided Canada.
The answer to this is to go after liberals, not to go after Latinos.
“The answer is to go after liberals, not Hispanics.”
We have a winner!!!
I respect your opinion, but it falls short of reality. Every culture, every society has a tipping point, a threshold, above which further immigration, legal, illegal or otherwise will permanently balkanize and destabilize a country. What worked for your grandparents country could destroy it today. We are at that point mathematically and with respect to natural law.
Diversity is ok in limited portions, but exceeding a certain threshold has the opposite effect: weakness.
The answer is not for us to go after liberals. If Hispanics want to be part of the solution, THEY need to go after liberals. I for one am sick and tired of being from a race that is constantly appointed by others to solve and apologize for the problems other races have with us. That’s the entitlement attitude that needs to die.
Marco Rubio should be the new poster boy for all the right reasons for Latinos to support the Republican Party. What is driving anti-Latino feelings in the Republican Party is the terrible lack of border security in this country. If our borders acted as real borders and not as jokes, then the immigration question could be addressed in a sane manner. But now, with just about anybody rushing into this country, the flood of illegal immigrants are seen more as a threat than as an asset to this country. All the Republicans basically want are some secure borders, rather than just talk about securing the borders. If Republican politicians address that AND the economy, the Latino community will stand by us.
The great white hope isn’t brown, its God and the constitution.
Absolutely right. The first order of business is border security. It’s unreasonable to think we can deport millions of people, but we can do more than we’re doing now.
Close the borders.
Demand verifiable ID of those who commit crimes. Deport those who can’t produce it.
Provide life-saving medical care for those in need. For all other medical needs, refer them to their local church or charity clinic for assistance.
Remove any special incentives or assistance for higher education.
Do a complete and immediate sweep of all businesses suspected of hiring illegal aliens.
Deport all workers who can not provide adequate ID.
Prosecute business owners who hired those illegal aliens.
Replace those vacant jobs with Americans looking for work.
Do these things thoughtfully and fairly and deliberately and soon.
Hear, hear! You are exactly correct, LibertyShip.
What can I say, “JL” nailed it. Let’s just all get along. One brother to another, just slaving away in on the Democratic Open Boarder Plantation. Why not? How about the illegal aliens of all nationalities be deported and we control legal immigration like every other country in the world. If we keep going the way the illegal apologists want us to there won’t be any legitimate elections to worry about losing to “too many Hispanic voters”.
This shill for La Raza never varies the message. Let in Mexico’s huddled masses, as many as can make it here on their own power. Send trains and buses for the rest. He doesn’t speak for the third of Hispanics in this country who don’t want more illegal immigrants pouring across our Swiss-cheese border, let alone the rest of us. The long-term electoral fears he raises are a load of crap. Hispanics will find their way to the Republican party because their family values and work ethic are more at home there. Look at the Cubans in Florida. They didn’t swell the welfare rolls and stay there like the blacks in this country who made the mistake of putting all their eggs in the ambition-killing Democratic basket. That is why they remain poverty-stricken and crime-ridden generation after generation.
Based on the article, I am confident in my assumption that Mr. Navarrette is poorly informed and perhaps, not very intelligent. The other possibility is that he is simply dishonest. His conclusions and recommendations should be taken in that light.
Reuban, what exactly is it that you want?
Furthermore, Mr. Navarrette seems to think 100% of LEGAL Americans of Hispanic ancestry are for amnesty. The guy couldn’t be further from reality.
The abuse of the 14th Amendment by illegal alien parents is THEE reason the Amendment needs to be addressed. Though Mr. Navarrette won’t admit/come to terms with this reality due to his wearing ‘brown’ sunglasses.
FYI: If you REALLY want to see the 14th Amendment abuse and nonsense implemented, again look to California for example.
Americans of Hispanic ancestry are the majority of teens, students in California’s public school system. California ranks 48th (was 47th in 2008) in regards to test scores. It”d ranked in the mid 20′s just 15 years ago.. coincidence?
California ranks 49th nationwide of adults possessing AT LEAST a high school diploma. California ranks 14th in regards to college educated folks over 25 years of age – for a stae that posseses 35 + million people.. that’s pathetic.
Too bad Mr. Navarrette won’t discuss ‘entitlements’ paid to, ahem, ‘legal’ children of illegal alien parents across California. The #’s would make your head explode.
Or the fact less than 15% of Hispanics in California illegally DO NOT do the paperwork to become legal citizens! Even when living in the U.S. for decades..
Ruben, go sell stupid somewhere else..
Pardon me, my next to last sentence I’d meant ,’..in California LEGALLY..’.
Thank you.
Once again Ruben tries to sell illegal immigration as just plain old immigration.
Hispanics know the difference, chavo.
The GOP has not offended many LEGAL, TAX PAYING and HONEST Latinos. The illegals have been insulted, I FEEEEEL SOOOOO BAAAD!
The GOP isn’t alienating Hispanic, or even Mexicans, in general; only that portion of the Mexican population, themselves mostly illegals, that are squealing for shamnesty and an endless flood of mojados to serve the Ruling Class as domestic labor and minimum-wage retail workers.
Once you realize that your shilling for your amos in the Ruling Class is as transparent as a glass of tequila blanco, your life will be much easier, Ruben.
Does this guy ever write about anything else?
JL is right. Why should Americans, especially Republicans, have any say on how their country is run? We should simply give all our property to anyone from Mexico or south of the border who wants it. Americans, particularly Republicans, are evil and don’t deserve to have a country. The Hispanics will love us if we give them the U.S.
Why is it that someone with your name would constantly be out demagoging this issue which is actually quite a simple matter? The pathetic illegal immigrants you are defending are not potential American Loving American Loyal future Patriots. They are future (fill in the blank)-Americans with no potential of ever becoming conservatives. Their very first act is to disrespect the laws of this nation, they keep close, very close ties to their old countries, they demand special concessions as they refuse to assimilate into the general population, for more than a few generations.
” So much for conservatives pretending to be strict constructionists.” Since when is the 14th written for illegal immigrant’s children. It was written after the Civil War to deal with the Blacks that were not treated as equal. It was not applied the way Rubin intends until he 20th century. Latino’s will not be on track to be one-third of the population of the border is closed and birth right is with drawn. Some will leave the country if benefits are withdrawn for them having successfully crossed the border without getting caught. There is a sig pop of Asians that are not given a seat the table, work had, tend to be highly educated and are not making demands. Lets put them in power and enforce our laws.
Yes, we as Republicans should not stand in the way of Democrat vote drives. Let’s set aside the rule of law in order to appeal to a potential voting block. Maybe we could also provide reparations to blacks to help our poll numbers in the African-American community. Maybe we could even reach out to the pro-abortion crowd in some fashion. Once you set aside your principles, its easy to “reach” out with open arms.
If Navarrette weren’t so routinely hostile towards the GOP in most instances, I MIGHT be inclined to take his advice here. Otherwise, why should ANY conservative listen to any “advice” he has for us? The answer is, that his article presupposes the GOP is somehow hostile towards “Latinos” and other racial minorities. It is not now, nor has it ever been. Quite the opposite, in fact. It’s Democrats who wish to rope Latinos onto their plantation, there to keep them in perpetuity, just like they’ve succeeded in doing with blacks, some gays and, strangely, a majority of American Jews.
The GOP still doesn’t know how to fight the left. Its so easy to reframe thr argument using the tactics of the left. Most of our politicians could use a few lessons from Andrew Breitbart.
Issue isn’t whether Republicans are hostile, it’s whether Hispanics think Republicans are hostile.
The OP plays to the myth – - – “Unless you’re prepared to give me special privileges, you’re hostile.”
Mr Navarette, please stop pretending that you want to help the Republicans do anything. You know very well that they cannot outbid or outpander the Democrats for the support of the Undocumented Future Democratic Voters of America. What you really want is for the Rs to help the Ds gain these tens of millions of votes, and guarantee the left their power in perpetuity.
It is repugnant to compare the past generations of immigrants who helped build this country to the de facto invasion from Mexico. Those prior immigrants came here with every intention of becoming Americans, and assimilating into our culture, not to import their own culture in toto. That was back in the day when we didn’t have these enormous governmental teats to suckle freebies at, and back then, most immigrants came here legally, within all the rules, not just by wading across a river.
And the 14th Amendment was passed in 1868 for the sole purpose of protecting the newly freed slaves, not to give incentives to Latino women to race across the border after their water broke to have a free childbirth in a real hospital, and give their children, and by extension, themselves, access to all the welfare benefits available to citizens here.
If you really are serious that we should secure the border, which would mean no more anchor babies in the future anyway, why are you against the concept of changing the law to exclude future anchor babies, which would not happen if the borders were secure? Answer: you are posturing on behalf of the Democrats, nothing more.
the biggest mistake conservatives make regarding this issue is not demonstrating their principles
the first priority is to seal the border; there is no immigration issue that needs to be addressed until this one is dealt with
somewhere down the road there needs to be a return to basic american civics education– not just for immigrants but for all americans that have been denied this very fundamental and societal glue
the fact that illegals are here only proves that they want to be here
they want their children to learn english
they want to assimilate into american culture
the problem is the lefties that want to balkanize our country in order to maintain the illusion of class warfare
conservatives must assert principles at every turn whether its immigration issues, economical, security, education, etc…
and to worry about offending anyone in the process is a victory for political correctness and a defeat for our republic
Ah yes, Ruben, Let’s reward them all for their unlawful acts. Let’s give them stuff off the backs of struggling tax payers. Your opinions are so tainted by your racism, how can anyone take you seriously?
I agree with Ruben just in one part: Some Republicans HAVE to stop pushing for English Only. The English Only stance is damaging the GOP among LEGAL IMMIGRANTS.
Yet, the Latino population WILL NEVER be strong enough to destroy the Republican Party’s chances today or the future. This is a myth. Obama was the most pro illegal immigration presidential candidate EVER, yet he only won 28 states in the general elections. Reagan and Nixon won elections by huge landslides. Most recently Republicans almost destroyed the Obama-Democratic Party machine in the midterms.
The only bad apples in the Republican avalanche were Tom Tancredo(R) Racist and Sharrong Angle, the wahcko woman who started pushing for English Only and other whacko stances in Nevada and made Harry Reid win reelection with the help of scared Hispanics.
All other Republicans won handily picking up 63 seat in the House, over 10 governorships and 670 state house seats.
We don’t have to be scared of Latinos or any other minority. We need to fight illegals without using racist and anticonstitutional stances like English Only. Most Latinos(Americans) agree with strong anti illegal immigration laws. But they get scared of racist anti American propaganda like English Only and other discriminatory stances against Hispanics.
The Mexican workers that I am familiar with and that came here as immigrants want their children to learn english. Most of them are opposed to schooling them separately in spanish. So I don’t know where your opposition to english only comes from. In fact a few years ago there was a near riot in the LA unified school district because the spanish parents of students were so upset with the bilingual language education policy. They demanded that their children be taught in english. I speak four languages and come from the only country in the world where more than one national language is NOT a problem. Moreover, the world language is currently english and there is no reason to believe that it will change any time soon.
BS. Learn the language, assimilate. Otherwise, we continue to break apart. English is the language here, and federal assistance and tax breaks should be withheld from individuals and corporations who resist it.
Press “2″ for your countries demise.
Illegal immigrants are a convenient source of cheap labor with no legal protection. Repealing the 14th amendment means the same could be said for their children.
That sounds worse to me no matter what side of the issue one is on.
Ruben, the Fourteenth Amendment was originally passed to assure that newly-freed slaves were not denied citizenship. If it had been presented as a way to lure women from other countries to the United States so that their babies might be born citizens of the United States, surely it would not have passed.
Since the Amendment has served its purpose, it is not inconsistent to be a strict constructionist yet still disapprove of the current effect of the Amendment, which is to lure citizens of other countries to come to the United States, by hook or by crook, solely to create new citizens. This would seem to be a subversion, or at least conversion of the original intent of the Amendment.
I love it when shills like Ruben fake concern for Republicans who may, in his opinion, be overplaying their hand. The display of faux even-handedness is so transparent as to be laughable. Then, he loses it with the whole first-they-came-for-the-illegals-then-they-came-after-anyone-with-an-accent straw man nonsense. They do say “Never go full retard”‘ but poor old one-note Ruben can’t help himself.
Many commenters question whether RN should be allowed to post on this site. I say, absolutely! Every time he writes he shows us that which open border proponents fear most.
http://www.newsweek.com/blogs/kausfiles/2010/12/03/latinos-going-rogue.html
More and more I see people like Ruben Navarette (whom I had the pleasure of working with back during his days at the AZ Republic) and Linda Chavez are melding into the position of Rep. Gutierrez. Essentially, the immigration debate as become a Latino identity politic issue and not a national security issue.
If you’re for border enforcement then you obviously don’t like Latinos. Here is the inverse of that argument: If you’re not for border enforcement then you are not for border enforcement in any instance and don’t properly recognize the southern border and only the southern border of the United States. Such is the reality of today.
Hey, why not try this premise…hispanics should embrace strict enforcement of our border & immigration/tax/labor/criminal fraud statutes to show America they respect what it means to be a citizen of this country? Don’t recall ANY other LEGAL immigrant group showing up and then demanding that we change our laws to suit them. Why Navatte thinks that respecting the feelings of one group (illegally in this country) over another (American citizens) is a reasonable attitude is beyone me. And, why is this an ethnic question? My folks came from Ireland, but I want the Irish illegals deported FIRST! Get it?
Build the fence and enforce the law. It is the burden of the right to maintain the rule of law. If the repubs don’t do it and act like democrats then it’s third party time.
Read my lips: Enforce the law.
Amen. I’ll say it again, Amen.
Navirrette is following his usual paranoid, everyone-is-out-to-get-Mexicans form in this article. And, as usual, he deigns to tell the reader what everyone else’s motives are. Like most leftists, Navarrette simply cannot comprehend or accept that anyone can be opposed to illegal immigrants yet welcoming to legal immigrants. Well, they exist – and I am one of them. I am a U.S. citizen married to an Hispanic – who entered the United States legally. Neither she nor I have any tolerance for illegals, many of whom are here for a free lunch paid for by the U.S. taxpayers. But both she and I have untold numbers of friends who are legal immigrants. (And none of them whine like Navarrette.)
No, I do not want Mexicans entering the United States illegally. Nor do I want illegals coming from Norway, Sweden, Germany, Italy, China, Afghanistan, Great Britain, Australia – or anywhere else. Enter the country legally and abide by the laws of the nation, and you are welcome. We don’t need new legislation for a “pathway to citizenship.” We already have that path, as has been followed by millions of legal immigrants for more than 200 years.
Frankly, I don’t know what drives Navarrette. If he got the open borders and amnesty legisaltion he wants he will no longer have anything to complain about – and he’d have to find a real job.
Between the carnage and chaos in Mexico and this push by Ruben and the Demorats to enact the Dream act there will be a tidal wave of Hispanic gate crashers if we don’t attend to the border NOW. Who the Hispanic voters eventually vote for is irrelevant if the wave is not stopped first.
Navarette seems to think the only way to keep Hispanics happy is to open the floodgates, allow anyone and everyone into the country and give millions of illegal aliens blanket amnesty. He ignores the many Americans of Hispanic descent who have been in this country for generations and also see it as an abomination that the government refuses to enforce the border like almost every other country with a functioning government does.
In Navarette’s mind anyone who agrees that the border should be enforced is a “right wing extremist”. Even, apparently, Hispanics who do so. He has a patronizing attitude toward Hispanics, and he isn’t fooling anyone.
I have some questions, Ruben, but don’t get me wrong, I do enjoy reading what you write. By “nativist,” do you mean “southern crackers” or those “multicultural” original “indigenous” Indian natives that, by chance of climate permutations and changing sea levels, managed to get to the Western Hemisphere twenty thousand years ago? Is observing that those “natives” had twenty thousand years to develop “capitalist private property relations” and blew it a “racist” observation? When did the 19th century 14th amendment–which was intended for “indigenous” American black slaves and perhaps white indentured servants–come to be applied to the babies of twentieth century stowaways? What was your opinion of Jimmy Carter’s first major act granting amnesty to Vietnam era draft dodgers, and is the Dream Act sort of an amnesty for going to school or joining the army while “illegal?” What do you think about having an affirmative action draft to get more wise female latinas proportionally represented in the armed forces? Currently, male soldiers are grossly over represented in the military, what’s your opinion on equal dying for equal pay between the genders in the armed forces? If now is the right time for ending don’t ask don’t tell for six percent of the population, do you think maybe an affirmative action draft for females, over 50 percent of the population, is warranted? Should females have to at least register for the draft? If there is a draft for females, do you think “homophobic” should be a recognized medical disorder exempting “straight” females from the draft during the next “unjust war?”
I agree with Mr. Navarette and appreciate this eloquent request for civility.
We all probably have received a hundred tacky, hostile jokes about illegal immigrants in our email inboxes, just about all of them aimed at Mexicans.
Just kissing off 20 to 30 percent of the electorate may feel good and assuage some of your anger about the US government’s failures, but it will ensure leftist power and influence.
Bottom line, this is about political reality. Let’s go for persuasion and dignity instead of insults and anger.
Tacky? Right! Like “Machete”…
Isn’t “Machete” more or less “Shaft” for Mexicans? I’m not sure what your point is.
Does “Machete” justify hostility and rudeness to whatever illegal immigrant is unfortunate enough to cross your path? (Hmm, I can hear you screaming at the maid cleaning your hotel room now. Or maybe staying at home to scream at your neighbor’s yard man. How special.)
Does “Machete” justify insulting 20 to 30 percent of the electorate just because you’re in a snit about Teddy Kennedy’s legacy?
If so, let’s discuss you cutting off your nose to spite your face.
And here I thought you were advocating elevating the dialogue and getting back to civility! lol Thanks for exposing your own fake argument. You want to use “tacky e-mails” as some sort of “evidence” of anti-Hispanic sentiment but give “Machete” a pass. That’s a FAIL. And then, of course, you try to insult me directly by relying on a few false assumptions. Typical…
Bravo, Moira!
Way to bait the hook and then dangle it in such a way that the troll can’t help but bite.
A+! Keep it up!
wow ..you can actually write that then click submit !
I guess the irony of it is beyond you.
Hey Ruben – THE MEXICANS CANNOT AFFORD TO ALIENATE US. I think you have everything backwards. As usual. Think real hard Rube. You keep flogging away for a group of people who have done everything to make themselves hated and reviled. People can see if for themselves. They don’t need you to order them to believe you and not their lying eyes. Go back and tell your posse to obey our laws, speak our language and clean up their third world underclass culture and get here legally. Then maybe we can talk. The trouble with people like you is that you forget IT IS OUR HOUSE. The invaders don’t get to set the rules and we don’t have to put them first. That is what you are really asking, isn’t it? Hope one day a stranger climbs in your window and then tells you he is going to demand you begin to live according to his rules. Love to see the expression on your face when everyone else tells you you cannot afford to “alienate” the invader. America needs less people and more jobs. And if anyone comes here, we get to say who it is. And enough with the third world scum who are bringing their illiteracy, criminality, and third world habits with them.
Do we really now that all Hispanics are pro-Amnesty? Legal Hispanics are probably the population most hurt by illegal immigration, as it is their wages driven down. Isn’t their a smart meassge to legal Hispanics to shows the right isn’t anti-Hispanic, just pro-American?
Why does Rueben Navarette believe that Hispanic Americans are all a bunch of identity politics racist groupists who care more about Hispanics than the USofA.
That is no different than how the Klan sees Hispanics. Is the Klan right, afterall?
i am also a “hispanic” although I am an American before I am anything
latin countries are not nice places to live – unless you are very wealthy – because they do not believe in law – there is a real problem with keeping a society going when some communities are more loyal to family or ethnicity than they are to law or some of the other abstract concepts that demand loyalty and adherence for the existence of a “nation”
the only way the “hispanics” or “latinos” (code word for illegal Mexicans) will become a force that will help destroy the republicans is if the REPUBLICANS help them become citizens and help them get the right to vote
these people are already on the democratic plantation and their leaders are sold out – they are the new blacks for the Democrat party since the blacks are shrinking because they will not leave the plantation and they let a bunch of white atheist feminists talk them into aborting the next generation of children
If you cannot get “Latino” votes on conscience and belief in good ideas then you should learn to do without them
the ones that came illegally – the majority of the ones that run around demanding this and that cannot vote
the so called DREAM act has a flip side that should be called the SHAFT act. Let’s see, illegals come here and somehow wiggle into the education system and the military and say “See, we deserve to be here and all of the rights and privelages that go with it because we are doing something “productive”.” How many foreigners that are using the front door and trying to get here legally would love to be in the position of getting citizenship just because they want to go to University?
Going to school here or serving in the military must remain a PRIVELEGE of people that are already citizens or otherwise legal and not some type of penance for lawbreakers.
i propose a new law that bans citizenship for anyone that comes here illegally for life, also no benefits from the public purse forlife, end “right to soil” now
this is 2010 and not 1910 many things are different and its NOT the ethnicity of the people that want to come
ILEGALES FUERA!
Totally agree. See my comment below. Also agree that Hispanics is a codeword for a subset of Mexicans to whom Democrats want to inflict the same type of damage they inflicted Blacks with welfare.
In other words, all these countries suffer because of the collective CULTURE of their citizens. We now see them bringing their primitive ideas and their backward habits to America. No thanks. If America had been founded by Mexicans, we would be…Mexico. If we replace everyone here with everyone from Mexico, we would be …Mexico. A country is its people. And if enough of them overrun us, we are doomed. If they had the ability to develop and sustain a first rate country, they would have done so decades ago. Look at Haiti and all the excuses made for that hellhole. It’s the people, people. Keep them out.
there is another famous group who cares more about their tribe than anything else
the mafia
do not deport the criminals – they will come back here
deport the ones that are not dangerous and put the criminals in jail for life if they do a crime here while illegal – ANY CRIME
that will be a deterrent for the next generation of hoods
What part of illegal don’t you understand? On the 1st I was talking to a woman who was born in Germany and legally immigrated to the US, she is livid at the idea that you and others like you want to give away free what she worked so hard to get. How many other legal immigrants do you want pissed at the Republicans like they are the Democrats?
mr.n why can you not bring yourself to say, “alienate americans?”
jl
Hey Ruben,
I am very sick of being put in the same group of people, loosely referred to as Hispanics, by pundits like you just because we share the same mother tongue. Ask a WASP that he/she should be in the same group as Filipinos just because both groups speak English as a mother tongue and you get the idea. As a person who values individualism, I have always been opposed to the whole concept of identity politics but if there is a label that proves that the whole concept of identity politics is bankrupt is that of “Hispanics”, in which pundit like you put everybody from Spaniards to Chileans, Cubans, Argentinians, Salvadorians, to the really big elephant in the room: those Mexicans who flee Mexico because for them they rather risk deportation than live in a utterly miserable country in which the top 20% corrupt of the population keeps the remaining 80% in poverty generation after generation.
So if you want to engage in identity politics when it comes to immigration, let’s at least define who we are talking about. I can tell you that I was never a problem for the US: I came to the US legally, waited in the line to get my greencard, then waited some more to get my US citizenship. Now, along the way I met many hard working and qualified immigrants from countries such as China, India, and yes Mexico, who had to wait in the line much longer, close to 8 years in some cases, just to get their greencards. While they waited, they duly payed their taxes.
Now, it’s people like you, who want to reward illegal immigration with crap like the current DREAM Act that would put many undeserving illegal immigrants in a 6-year path to citizenship. While I see how somebody who was brought as a two year old against his/her will should be given especial consideration, I fail to see why a 30 year old who came at the age of 15 to the US should be put ahead of the line of any of those Chinese, Indian or Mexican nationals who have been waiting for a long time in the line for their greencards.
Sorry, your arguments are nonsense.
Illegal? NO. We don’t want those who have no desire to leave their previous country behind and refuse to assimilate and become American (respect for law is intrinsic to being an American in this day).
Legal? Yes, if they like immigrants from generations ago renounce their home country citizenship and become Americans and RESPECT OUR LAWS.
My brother is married to a Mexicana and they have two young boys. You cannot believe how upset he is about how they had to go through immigration LEGALLY and how the illegals want to be rewarded now for cheating and breaking the law.
In Mexico, based on mine and my bother’s experience, there is little respect for the law. That is why they believe they are entitled to all the freebies in America and the idea of reconquering parts of the American Southwest.
We can ONLY take in immigrants who are LEGAL and willing to ASSIMILATE and become AMERICANS.
The Dems are simply pushing for illegals to immediately get them on the Dem plantation just like blacks for purposes of undermining our Republic and expanding their power. The war is already going politically.
Reid won Nevada partly due to illegals voting. Illegals voting probably put Bennett over the top in Colorado too.
What you are seeing is the gradual creation of a balkanized USA much like the tensions between Croations, Muslims and Serbs.
Low amounts of legal immigration are fine as long as people become American. It is that simple.
Yeah yeah. The GOP Front Office would do even better to stop insulting the party base. We do not have a problem with Latinos (or any other ethnic group). Rather, we do not accept open, undefended, borders and the flouting of American sovereignty. We are a nation of immigrants. Yes. But we are first and foremost a NATION, not a chaotic assemblage of Identity Groups. Which, BTW, is also why we are not Democrats. We are patriots. We love our nation, and our Constitution, and our founding values.
Latinos should be ripe for the poaching, and they might have been poached by now if not for the inconvenient fact that so many Republicans treat anti-immigrant rhetoric like catnip.
And with that racist comment, go mow my lawn.
Sorry author of this article, whites aren’t playing ball anymore. We know now that tolerance and diversity is only meant to apply to us while the NAACP and La Raza keep getting more powerful.
First, save the country and stop the ethnic dilution of America.
Second, neutralize the fed govt.
Third, ensure equal protection and uphold the constitution.
Then we can talk yout talk maybe. But without 1-3 in our own base, we wont have a country worth keeping and it wouldnt matter anyway.
I’m what the government calls ‘hispanic’, damn it. My parents were born in Panama, to families that are considered quite wealthy there (even today).
I thank GOD every day that they were brought, kicking and screaming, to the US by my grandparents (both sets) and quite legally (not easily, either)…And I am happy to be the first native-born US Citizen in my family.
My parents, and grandparents, all became naturalized citizens. My grandparents ran successful, legal businesses. My father and uncles served in the military, and became attorneys and physicians. My mother served in the US military, graduated from university and became a pharmacist. I served in the military, and became a physician: My cousins all graduated from universities and became professionals: physicans, engineers, lawyers.
So I clearly have a lot to identify with the no-ambition slackwits that Sr. Navarrette and the other race and class warfare puta pendejos engage in.
As far as the dream act? Fully 1/3 of my patients are illegals, sucking up resources that they don’t contribute to. How do I know? It’s easy to find out: I ask them. A ‘hispanic’ surname and fluency in far better spanish than they speak is all that is needed.
Well, before Ruben goes on a long rant about how the Republicans are blowing it, how about some discussion about how Hispanics are blowing it? Blowing it by having the marchers and noise making groups push only a total amnesty and push the line that there is an entitlement to be in the US without having to obey any laws on entering the US?
Hispanics have no more right to enter the US illegally than do Russians, Syrians, Malays or any other “ethnic” group. Just because Hispanics can sneak across the border does not mean that they have any right to be in the US.
So, off the high horse.
First, the border has to be secured. As best as is possible.
Then, a discussion and a concrete way to move forward with the 15 to 20 million illegal immigrants now in the US.
Also, birth right citizenship should not be granted to those born to illegal immigrants. That is ridiculous. The only reason Hispanics argue for that is because they know they can get around any legal immigration by coming to US illegally, have a baby and then have that baby be their “politically correct excuse” for staying.
Secure the border FIRST.
Ethnic minorities vote for the leftist socialist Democraps all on their own. The right-wing Republicans aren’t pushing them away. Rather they’re voting for the Democraps because they’re viewed as the anti-white party. It’s a display of their own racism. Not ours. They’re at fault for the way they choose to vote. Not us. Nothing we could do will appeal to them.
So we should stop trying and start taking concrete steps to severely restricting immigration from the 3rd world and to secure our borders and deport illegal immigrants. Unfortunately nobody in the Republican Party has the balls to do it.
We’re just going to continue with this slow motion suicide apparently until whites become the minorities in the country they built.
Republicans got the same level of support from Hispanics they always do, Navarette lies, because he seeks to profit by encouraging republicans to betray the US citizenry, the constitution and our sovereignty. Mexico is a criminal state, it’s not our ally, not our friend. It’s a parasite, and only good for one thing, crime and corruption. It is not worth our time, or resources. What the US needs to do, is sever all ties and alliances with it, end NAFTA, and militarize the border to begin the work of securing our border from these criminals.
The only thing the US has gotten from NAFTA is increased debt, the expense of subsidizing criminals and increased crime, fraud and higher taxes, and diseases and infestations that had been eliminated in our country a hundred years ago. Why is Pajamas Media printing this PoS?
“So if you’re as worried about the changing culture as much as you are secured borders, it’s only a matter of time before you set your sights on limiting the number of legal immigrants. And once that line is crossed, it’s much harder to hide and suppress the xenophobic impulses that drive much of the immigration debate.”
When we come to that Rubicon, we will cross it. Until then, the illegals must go.
After the illegal problem becomes manageable, we’ll deal with the xenophobes.
this guy has been writing the same article for years. i guess we are losing the chance to bring in millions more poverty stricken people who demand we support them and their babies while they by strength of huge numbers push us out…..wow we should really legalize the flood and cut our own throats.thanks for the same article year after year .looking forward to the next rendtion.
Hey, Ruben, did you not notice how many pro-enforcement Tea Party types just got elected to the House of Representatives and Senate? It was not by accident. Americans are fed up with political correctness. We want our country back!
Illegal aliens who come here have no right to become citizens — ever. We need interior enforcement (and drying up jobs for illegals), a 2,000-mile double-layer border fence and 100,000 troops to stop head-on this outright invasion of foreigners and terrorists (not to mention drugs) into our once-proud country.
You open-borders types love the status quo — i.e., non-enforcement and lax border security. I, for one, hope the Republicans have some guts and stand up for America and not for Mexico (as George W. Bush did and Barack Obama is doing now). Republicans have listened to your fear tactics long enough. Maybe these newly elected Republicans will listen to the American people for once.
Fvck Hispanics. If they have no respect for the rule of law, or concept of right and wrong, good riddance. The 14th Amendment SHOULD be adjusted to address the anchor baby issue, and if they have a problem with it, they can stay in, or go back to, Mexico, or Guatemala, or wherever else they are coming from illegally.
The selective enforcement of our immigration laws are another form of the corruption that makes Mexico so dysfunctional. The democrats refuse to enforce them for votes and the GOP for cheap labor.
There is a breaking point to the glue that holds us together ie: liberty and JUSTICE for all. When one group is granted amnesty from the laws it destroys our national cohesion.
Ruben says illegals can earn their legal status. You cannot earn legality. You can bully and bribe the politicians to give you a special status that makes you above the law but you cannot earn your legality.
We must allow our country to be invaded or suffer the consequences……
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Don’t forget Guitteirezs’ threat to start protesting en masse…just be ready to amass some busses to carry the lawbreakers out of the country!
Ruben will of course agree to go along for the ride….
“Latinos should be ripe for poaching…”? No Reuben, they should be ripe for deporting. And a really good place to start would be with the President of the Student Body at Fresno State.
I think, Mr. Navarrette, you mis-typed the title of this post.
It should have been titled, “CNN Contributor Seeks To Alienate PajamasMedia Readers.”
You succeeded. Congrats.
Bigotry ,race baiting and extortion abound.and clearly we are watching (with considerable amusement) the navarette school of community organizing attempt to displace the black liberationist school as our once proud nation’s most feared marxists.”They are laughing stocks a pair,” say I.
So the Hispanic voting bloc (like the black voting bloc, the seniors voting block, etc. etc.) has become so accustomed to nonthinking baiting and patronizing ownership by the dhims that they must continue to be bought off, baited, fooled, patronized in order to get their vote. If this portrait is accurate, they should be ashamed. I think many Hispanics are smarter than that; if I’m right, they should be infuriated at the continual portrayal of them as heritage/national background dictating political loyalties. What nonsense. I’m 100% Dane. What’s the immigration policy done for me lately? Oh, that’s right. My vote doesn’t have to be bought. It’s not as important as the latest victim group. Hispanics and blacks who actually think of themselves as Americans should be outraged at this continual perspective that amounts to: “Oh, those poor Hispanics. If we talk real slow and deceive them with pretty things on the lower shelf, we won’t get their vote.” Well, if they are as easily bought off as Ruben consistenly seems to think they are, they can keep their vote.
My mother tongue is Spanish; I am infuriated that speaking a given language associates me politically with other people in the first place. In other words, I begin by opposing the whole concept of identity politics. But, assuming that identity politics has some traction among some people, they should do a better job identifying what group we are talking about: it’s illegal Mexicans, not Hispanics, not even ALL Mexicans, who are the troublemakers.
I really would like to know why PJ keeps posting this racist’s screed? He offers nothing of substance and very little based on fact or reality.
PJM is actually run by neo-cons. Think about it. Half the content on the website is from Jewish folk that want to rescue their people from liberal group think. By having hispanics like the rising star Chris Salcedo and (unfortunately) Ruben, they are trying to keep Hispanics from being in a permanent 70% Dem Rut, as Jews have been for most of the past 125 years.
One standard for all, because that is the best way to deal with life.
As long as anyone, and this also goes for Latinos, conclude that they will never be graded by the tougher standard when a double standard is applied to them, they will conclude that they are as untouchable as Assange, who is written about here: http://ezralevant.com/2010/12/why-isnt-julian-assange-dead-y.html
Folks are either part of the solution, or they are part of the problem. There is no third option.
These labels get so old. “Latino”, “Hispanic”. Does anyone realize that “Hispanic” is not a race and a term not used in Latin America? Most Latin American countries are populated by European immigrants, like the United States, the only difference being that the original Spanish settlers were more likely to mate with the natives and integrate them into there society. Prejudice is rampant in Latin America based on how “European” you are. My point, a family that immigrates to the United States from Argentina could care less what our immigration policy with Mexico is. Saying that all “Hispanics” will have the same views on political issues would be like saying that ever European immigrant to the US had the same positions. Racial identity politics is one of the most disgusting part of political discourse in this country.
Amen. Hell, even most Mexicans coming in now are as “indigenous” as Italian-Americans are “north African”. Just enough to make combing the hair a struggle and to avoid a nasty sunburn. Even the Native Americans are just the sunburn/heat-stroke resistant descendants of Russians who crossed the Bering Strait.
If you people are not natural Republicans, why are you here in America?
Ruben,
You said in your column “When Republicans pull stunts like this, they cut their throats with a constituency that would normally be a natural-fit for the Republican Party because it is conservative on social issues.”
Well, Blacks are culturally conservative too but for some reason aren’t flocking to the Republican Party. And unfortunately it’s because they believe that the Democrats have always been the ones fighting for them when the least bit of research will show that most major changes that have benefited them have come from Republicans not Democrats. It’s just that the Dem’s are the one’s there handing out the freebies (crack in the form of cash) and taking credit for it. One’s you receive a hand out long enough it becomes your right, not help to get you through until yo can stand on your own. What is really unfair to blacks is the stereo type they get when there are more whites receiving freebies when you look at it from a Nationwide standpoint. Oh, and they are usually Democrats too.
What is the author suggesting? The GOP support government slavery to welfare?
Traditional America (that constitutional thing) is all about equal [opportunity] for American CITIZENS and legal residents. On average with an economy there are over 11 million (more like 13 millions) illegal residents in the U.S. That does NOT take into account those who have been here for years and fallen through the illegal census count.
The overwhelming majority of illegals and [generations] of their families in the U.S. have long been influenced by the governments socialist welfare programs…..thus, they love the democrats who perpetuate the ideology of welfare slavery upon them…..just like a huge majority of the African American and Native American populations.
Maybe the GOP could enter into a welfare slavery war with the democrats, offering the illegal immigrant latino’s and their family trees living in the U.S. increased welfare benefits over the offer of the democrats and problem solved. Millions of new Republicans overnight!
That said, I have an appreciation of those illegals who come here to work hard (send American dollars back home to support their families) doing the jobs America’s educated morons are to good to do. IF employers would start evaluating all high school and college graduates to a real education standard, America would have an excess pool of laborers for those jobs only illegal workers currently do.
Illegals will vote for whom ever they think will let them do what ever they want while looting the social services provided by the tax payers. Republicans are not capable of one-uping Liberals in that department because, eventually, morality gets in the way of conservatives, something that does not weigh down a liberal. Liberals have had lots of practice destroying the black communities with their tactics.
Best Conservatives try to do the right thing, the moral thing and uphold a plan that honors U.S. citizens. Let the chips fall where they may. Eventually more folks will see the value of that course, I hope.
This is how the democrats have always pitted one group of people against the rest of the people. If you are not an American at heart than get the H_ll out of our country. You know us everyday working people can mingle and get a long. There is a lot of interracial couples out there so we must be able to over come this BS. It is just a minority of each group and politicians that spread fear and hate among us. How can we the people expect our politicians to enforce our laws when we let them get away with breaking our own laws. Talk about no respect, isn`t that what the gangs all say. You got to show me some respect and our politicians use us against each other. Is that respect?
Ruben:
No more pandering; the US needs to build a fence at the US/Mexico border and deport the illegals.
Expat in Warsaw
Or name Obama permanent dictator for life. That will make most illegals go away and then we can all emigrate to Canada.
Democrats don’t want to bring Mexicans in. They want to turn the US into another Mexico. So far they are succeeding.
Ask any of the semi fabs that have fled California why they left. hint.. they wont say too many Mexicans. Now we are looking at 4 more years of real Marxist government in part because we aren’t focused on the real issues.
it is amazing how people (the essay author) can advocate discrimination and not see that it is wrong in all it’s forms. AMEN . PERIOD
…is the author still mad that his parents named him after a sandwich?
Hahaha. Fist bump my friend. I love the rEuben sandwich which oddly possesses more DIVERSE fixins, flavors than ol’ Ruben himself.
If the only way we can avoid alienating Hispanics is by throwing away our sovereignty and tolerating people who hold our laws in complete contempt, then we will just have to take my chances.
This just in from JEB:
Jeb Bush, younger brother of former president George W. Bush, announced over the weekend that he does not support Arizona’s controversial immigration law, saying that his half-Latino children might represent potential suspects according to the intended strictures of SB1070.
“It’s the wrong approach,” Bush, who is married to a Mexican, said Saturday at a National League of Cities convention in Denver, according to the Denver Post’s report. “The net result is not much has been done.”
First he sides with Bar on Palin, now this. I’m starting to like this guy.
In all honesty I think you have uncovered the true reason for the Bush family’s interest in an illegal alien amnesty: George P. Bush (the grown up little brown one of Jeb) would have needed the ethnic loyalty vote to cross over and compensate for all the anti-Bush and anti-Texan conservatives who would not vote for a third generation of Bush.
I like the more proper moniker/label David Horowitz speaks of when referring to the hypocritical ‘Liberal’ or ‘Progressive’ types in his book,
Reforming Our Universities: The Campaign For An Academic Bill of Rights
The term, ‘Illiberal’.
A wonderful reference when speaking of/reading this one-trick pony’s/author’s tripe.
“latinos should be ripe for the poaching” does anyone else have a problem with this type of rhetoric? if this were replaced with white people I think everyone might have a problem with this article. It is crazy the ways we find it acceptable to talk about the people who are not in power in this country. Latinos probably don’t want to sync up with the Republican party because Republicans treat them like second class citizens that they want to use to catalyze accomplishing the bigger goals of their party. Can anyone else not see that or are you all too busy pretending no one ever lived in this country except white men born after the civil war? why would latinos wan’t to join a party that acts like they don’t exist? i have no clue at all.
I agree with you realtalk number 97 you do not have a clue. The democrats have taken more money from wall street, obama included, than the republicans. But you are right it must be a white thing problem, excuse me a minute I have to beat my slave. Do you ever read anything written by intelligent black people like, Thomas Sowell,, Star Parker, Joe Hicks and many other great writers, if you would maybe you would gain a clue. I recommend start with Mr. Sowell`s writing`s, he has written some very good books!
Sorry, realtalk, I’m too busy conspiring with my fellow white men Bobby Jindal, Allen West, and Nikki Haley to bother listening to the likes of you.
Uh, ‘realtalk’ – I’d be careful taking a reference from ONE, 1 poster and blanket that mindset to tens of millions of people.
You sir have ‘jumped the shark’ so to speak.
BTW, I don’t know if you actually READ or ABSORB the news but there was an election 5 + weeks ago. Guess what? Hispanics, minority females, Blacks won their elections.. AND THEY WERE CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS.
Did I just blow your mind, outlook of the ‘Latinos don’t exist’ construct you’ve concocted?
I hope you’re a drive-by political commenter…
Pajamas Media is the only conservative site I know that employs trolls as writers.
Excuse me, I meant republicans act like no one exists except for giantic corportations and oil companies. You’re right I did jump to a conclusion, many minorities and females do vote republican for because of their social policies. It is sad they don’t see that they are being cheated out of their money and their vote.
Funny that you assume I’m a man! Oh the ignorance of sexism!!
If Hispanic-Americans show more loyalty to their ethnic group or “La Raza” to put it more provocatively than to the country they live in and its laws then it’s not just a good idea for the GOP to alienate them, it’s their and every other loyal American’s duty to do so.
Oh Ruben;
Once again, you have taken your pro Illegal Alien stand. But what inspired you to assume all Hispanics think alike? I’ve talked to many 1st and 2nd generation immigrant-to-citizenship who disagree with you, and your position all together.
And yes, we WILL revise the 14th Amendment to our Constitution, there has been too much abuse of this by Illegal Aliens – back in 1868 we did not have the problems we have today.
I have a simple Proposal: Can we deport a “Progressive” to a Dictator run Communist/Socialist country for every Illegal Alien we give amnesty and citizenship to? I think that would be a fair trade (and I bet the newly minted Americans work a helluva lot harder than the mental-midget “progressives” out to destroy this country).
101. realtalk
Funny that you assume I’m a man! Oh the ignorance of sexism!!
No, calling you an “hysterical sounding female with an ax to grind” would have been ‘sexist’.
Excuse me, I meant republicans act like no one exists except for giantic corportations and oil companies.
Really? The tea-partiers looked like anyone’s grandparent/aunt/uncle/mother/father/sister/brother and they certainly weren’t ‘corporate’.
You’re right I did jump to a conclusion, many minorities and females do vote republican for because of their social policies. It is sad they don’t see that they are being cheated out of their money and their vote.
Fiscal responsibility is something I vote for because I have to be fiscally responsible with my own finances to survive and watching our government turn into a bloated turd that won’t flush because it wants to gobble up money and destroy wealth [i.e. SURVIVAL] is not my idea of the American Dream. The GOP ain’t no prize-winners in that fiscal responsibility arena either but hopefully we will get some real conservatives to finally bring the hammer down on the B.S.
You know how many vacations I’ve had in the last 23 years? Two. Do you know how many 0bama and Cronies have had in the last two years during this financial crisis?
UGH
It is weird that Hispanics wouldn’t be falling over with dedication and loyalty to a country run by upperclass white people.
can hispanics afford to alienate republicans?
Realtalk (aka RealBS)
I assume you’ve elected to speak on behalf of all the slaves of socialist progressive democrats government welfare. Or, maybe you also speak for all the Cholo’s who infiltrate all America’s cancer cities and prisons.
Funny how Mexicans and Latino’s who come to America for America’s Constituional values and are educated RUN from the socialist progressive democrats. By contrast, far to many “educated” natural American Democrats despise the Constitution and cling (bow) to the socialist progressive ideology and objective to destroy the Traditional America.
You obviously have no regards for the constitution and the laws of the land…just like the [illegal] immigrants you support and speak on behalf of.
America’s founding fathers NEVER intended for the United States to have open border immigration! Thats why they included into the Constitution under Article I, Section 8 of the Powers of Congress….”To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization.” “Rule”…meaning LAWS and enforcement of those laws!
The GOP believes in the Constitution and therefore, does NOT develop and nurture welfare slaves for a vote getting army….as you socialist progressive democrats do.
106. AS
It is weird that Hispanics wouldn’t be falling over with dedication and loyalty to a country run by upperclass white people.
And yet they keep coming here in parasitic droves and the ‘whitey’ George Soros is more than happy for more slaves.
BTW, many Hispanics consider themselves white and are insulted by even being called a ‘minority’.
realtalk, lemme guess – Poly Sci and/or Feminist studies major? Or another ‘important to Western society’ type of major/profession.. hahaha
Wait a minute, are YOU the feminist whose charges pendingagainst Assange because you were the ‘flavor of the evening’ and felt wronged with Assange in the bed of another woman, (not a fellow feminist.. bummer) the very next evening that hot, August night?
This may come as another ‘shock’ to your foundations, but the ‘giant corporations and oil companies are ECSTATIC over Obama’s decision making in office. Research why yourself and check out the 2 year high on oil presently..
Lastly, regarding my ‘gender faux pas’, I didn’t ‘assume’ anything. I should have, at the very least applied an ‘/Ma’am’ to my jib.
The expression ‘You sir..’ is synonymous throughout the English language for a form of rebuttal. A tad dated, absolutely. Apparently I should have ‘known’ your sex by your username. Silly me..
Suffice to say, hope your voluntary lobotomy of free thinking, self perseverance/growth is going swimmingly well.
The biggest mistake the GOP makes is allowing the left to frame the terms of the discussion. The use of “Hispanics” in very title of this piece is yet another example. Normalization of the status of illegal imigrants is not a “hispanic” issue, it is a Mexican issue. My brother-in-law is Cuban, we have friends from Peru and Columbia, I have discussed politics with folks from Equador and none of them agree with open borders or amnesty. Properly framed, the GOP position has nothing to do with ethnicity or language, and much to do with nationality. Not in a bigotted way, but from a perspective that any government’s first responsibility lies with its citizens and invited guests, not with the citizens of other countries or people who sneak in the back door.
Oh look, yet another token article by the token latino…yet again, I shall repeat: pretty poor timing in the wake of the latest Border Patrol Agent assassination.
And yet again, Navarette demands that his tribalist ethinc group be pandered to.
At least Conservatives can take pride in the fact that those latinos who abide by conservative values do so for the very sake of said values, rather than towing the party line like a lemming because they were bribed by the Leftists who will do anything in their power to replenish the voting ranks.
1 in 25 illegal aliens are felons
1 in 12 illegal aliens are rapists
1 in 8 illegal aliens have committed at least 5 misdemeanors
Every single illegal alien has committed at least 1 misdemeanor
Illegal aliens kill an average of 4,500 Americans every year – more than the combined fatalities of US troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.
The crime rates listed above are ONE HUNDRED TIMES higher than the American citizenry.
More Americans have been killed IN Mexico each month than in Iraq and Afghanistan since 2008.
DHS has concluded that the cost to deport each and every illegal alien would cost the government 131 billion dollars. Illegal aliens COST the U.S. government 113 billion dollars EACH AND EVERY YEAR. Therefore, mass deportation would pay for itself in 1.2 years.