GOP Alternative to DREAM Act Sets Up Intraparty Clash
The Federation for American Immigration Reform blasted the STARS Act as “only the first in a series of amnesties for illegal aliens.”
“Just like previous versions of the DREAM Act, the STARS Act is part of the relentless effort to gain amnesty for the entire illegal alien population,” FAIR said in a release. “Amnesty advocates understand that broad legalization schemes are unpopular with the American public and that their goals will have to be achieved incrementally.”
But the push for a DREAM Act alternative by some Republicans won’t end with Rivera’s bill.
Another supporter of Pelaez has been Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.).
Rubio has long said that he is crafting his own version of the DREAM Act. He said yesterday on Fox that he doesn’t know the details of Rivera’s bill, but “we take a very different approach.”
Rubio said his plan, which should be introduced by the end of the summer, will not have a path to citizenship for illegal-immigrant students.
“It’s not like they’ll never have access to a green card, and ultimately citizenship, but they’ll have to do it like everybody else, though the existing process,” Rubio said. “We wouldn’t create a special path for them.”
Pelaez in April charged that Rubio’s approach “would create a whole alternative inferior type of class of Americans.”
Former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said on CNN Wednesday that Mitt Romney would be wise to look at the Rubio plan, as Romney indicated he would do in addition to vetoing any Democratic version of the DREAM Act.
“I am heartened by the fact that he now understands that perhaps it does make sense,” Gonzales said. “And I think it will be important for the Hispanic community if he supports some kind of legislation that puts these children, innocent children in some kind of legal status.”
The significance of moving forward with some kind of reform — especially when President Obama has fallen short on his DREAM Act promises — isn’t lost on many Republicans in this election cycle. Romney has largely left immigration out of the conversation as he puts his campaign focus on broader economic issues, though the Dems’ campaign machine is zeroing in on immigration-related statements made by Romney during debates.
A recent NBC/Wall Street Journal poll showed Romney earning 27 percent of Latino voters’ support (George W. Bush won 41 percent in 2004) as opposed to 61 percent siding with Obama. A March Fox News Latino poll found 90 percent of likely Hispanic voters supporting the DREAM Act and 85 percent in favor of a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.
Rivera’s bill is acknowledged to not necessarily be something that wins consensus, but coupled with Rubio’s bill could be a starting point for the GOP to take the lead on immigration reform in the 112th Congress. Republican supporters of the DREAM Act also might have a new rallying point in Rivera’s leaner version.
“Congress needs to pass the DREAM Act so that many young people can form part of our armed forces or attend college and contribute to our generous and great nation,” Ros-Lehtinen said in March when championing Pelaez’s case. “There are many such desperate cases in our community and, instead of causing such anxiety we can allow these teenagers to realize their dreams in a legal manner.”
But they’re sure to face plenty of headwinds from the strictest and most steadfast opponents of illegal immigration within their own party.
There was a story from San Diego County a few weeks ago that told of a Mexican man who had worked in the USA for 20+ years, married with children born in the USA. He was caught without proper papers and deported. He paid a smuggler to get him back to his family but was left to die in the desert. The time for immigration reform is now. No one should be here illegally but no one should die trying to get to his family. Americans, of all people, have the smarts and resources to solve the illegal immigration problem efficiently and humanely. No more excuses from D.C.
no one should die trying to get to his family
Then it’s clear to me that Mexico needs to reform its immigration laws so that this poor mans children could go and live with him in Mexico.
Booting someone out of the country who has built a life here because they broke the law over 20+ years ago…That is WAY too extreme and makes conservatives look like hateful nutjobs. If they’ve proven themselves to be productive, well behaved members of society, why would we NOT want them here? It’s a little too easy to make a smartass joke about someone losing everything they have. You try taking a risk and living in a foreign country for a while tough guy….
Color me a hateful nutjob. Criminals don’t get a pass because they’re good at hiding. This has nothing to do with compassion.
So you would never break a law to provide a better life for your family?
Good for you.
What if owning slaves meant a better life for my family? You’re qualifying law to say it should be obeyed or not according to what some guy in La Paz thinks. I don’t care what some guy in La Paz thinks. In any event, if I was caught entering the U.S., I wouldn’t go all pouty and start whining about racism.
“You try taking a risk and living in a foreign country for a while tough guy….”
I have for the last 15 years. I have a perminent green card and was offered citizenship, but I would have to renouce my US citizenship. I can not do that, so stay a green card holder. If I run afoul of the law, I can be deported tomorrow. Europeans have no “moral” quams about deporting those who over stay their visas, nor do any other countries in the world.
You want to survive abroad? Speak the language, obey the laws and pay your taxes and you’ll be fine. It’s not asking much, is it?
How would it feel to be forced to leave behind everything that you built there over the past 15 years? Would you wish that on someone else just because they weren’t able to jump through the correct bureaaucratic hoops?
If I was there for the last 15 years illegally I’d blame myself. In any event, thanks for showing, even on a conservative site, how lacking in survival skills Americans are. Misplaced compassion for people who can’t organize their lives 3,000 miles or an ocean away will sink this country right back to where it came from.
I’m not sure what’s going on with the censoring of comments on this thread.
I have in fact lived in several foreign countries. In every case I lived there legally and complied with every single law. I never entered another country illegally and then claimed that the citizens of that country had an obligation to grant me citizenship and other benefits.
How about a U.S. Temporary Worker program so that Mexicans can come here, work and then go back to their families in Mexico?
1.) Build a wall. Stop new illegals from entering. 2.) With the deluge of illegals stopped, we can then discuss how to most efficiently remove the ones in this country.
A wall isn’t going to be enough. Build a 15′ wall and Mexico’s #1 product will be an 18′ ladder.
15′ wall 18′ ladder, that joke never gets old does it.
I think Patton said it best: “Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man.”
*facepalm*
We’d patrol the wall, for that matter alligators in the moat was an excellent idea, though PETA would pitch a fit.
But your “solution” is just to give another amnesty. I don’t see that as a solution but rather another enticement. My solution is the same as Canada’s. When an immigrant is found to be document challenged in the country, they are deported. If a foreign born woman shows up at a hospital to give birth and can’t produce documents, she is reported to their immigration officers and deported regardless of the fact that she is the parent of a new Canadian citizen. The cruelty is in allowing people to build lives on a shaky foundation in the first place.
However since people like you are opposed to any sort of interior enforcement, there is no reason to pass the next amnesty because it solves no problems in the long term.
A Dream act or Amnesty is NOT the way to go about it.
In 1965 Ted Kennedy got a big amnesty passed, and stated at the time the congress would never allow the ethnicity of this country to be changed. The number of illegals in that amnesty turned out to be almost 3 times the government estimate. In the 8 amnesties since then (ALL LED BY TED KENNEDY and many of which Americans are not even aware took place), the number of actual illegals was 2 1/2 to 3 times what the government stated in every case.
For the last 10-12 years, the government has been using the SAME FIGURE of 11-12 million illegals. The latino group “You Don’t Speak for Us,” readily admits there are somewhere between 20-35 million illegals. According to the government, the majority of them are latinos, and of those, 85% are from Mexico.
Stop and think. An amnesty/citizenship for these illegals would then give them the right to sponsor parents, spouses, siblings, children, aunts, uncles, cousins and friends to come to this country. Its called chain immigration!!! Within 20-25 years of this amnesty, the U.S. would be dominated by latinos. They would elect latino members of congress, a latino president, appoint latino Supreme Court Justices, latino governors/legislators, etc.
There would be NO southern border. Mexico and the U.S. would become one big third world country. Eventually, it would become what Mexico is today. A drug cartel controlled country.
Is this what you want for your children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren?
and you better hope that Rubio does not become V.P. He is already pushing for a new DREAM ACT! Should Romney be able to turn this country around, his V.P. would stand a good chance at becoming president after him. Think about the ramifications!!!!
“He paid a smuggler to get him back to his family but was left to die in the desert”
I suggest postcards.
This is insanity. If law simply gives in to what millions in the Third World want, then there is no law. I don’t support any version of this nuthatch idea. I am not a de facto center of asylum. Let those who are equal prove it by arranging their own houses. If we’re not exceptionalist then stop coming here. If we’re arrogant racists for thinking your countries are backwards then no reason to leave bright civilizations in the Third World. The problem is the people who back this nonsense have no idea what’s going on in the Third World or a grasp of what the people are like. Everybody’s okay and fine and dandy. Well, that’s true, in their own countries. Put 30 million here and it diminishes America – anybody who doesn’t believe this should be forced to live in the Third World and see if a voyage makes you a Bolivian or whether you’d eventually do an East India Company on them.
The Federation for American Immigration Reform blasted the STARS Act as “only the first in a series of amnesties for illegal aliens.”
The first? It’s just the latest in a long series of amnesties for illegal aliens.
A March Fox News Latino poll found 90 percent of likely Hispanic voters supporting the DREAM Act and 85 percent in favor of a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.
Hispanics do not vote on the issue of amnesty for illegal aliens. Burn that fact into your brain.
Many polls have found that blacks are very culturally conservative on the issues of abortion and gay marriage. They still vote 98% Democratic though.
If you could win the Hispanic vote by pandering to them on the issue of amnesty for illegals then President McCain would be presently gearing up for his re-election campaign.
If the GOP wants to win the Hispanic vote it will have to do it the old-fashioned way – with money. Studies have found that the average Hispanic in America (even the average Hispanic Republican) is more in favor of larger government than is the typical white Democrat.
Third World influx = Tower of Racial Advocacy Babel = tipping point. Too late to bail now.
“While I do have sympathy for those who may have come to this country illegally with their parents when they broke the law, our country cannot afford to make concessions in immigration policy. The Rule of Law is a much higher priority.”
No, you do not have any sympathy what-so-ever. You are placing the rule of a draconian law over the life of a human being. You wish to intentionally punish a child who had zero control over her actions by putting her in her place, which you do not want to be this country. You are deplorable sir, to say that this anti-life law takes priority over human life.
That “child” could take their college admission letter to a US embassy in their country of birth and apply for a student visa just like 10s of thousands of foreign students do every year. Or they can wait for their US born siblings to turn 21 and sponsor a “family unification” green card for them. Pretending that without the DREAM Act that they have no other path to legal status is ridiculous.
Wouldn’t any “anti-life” laws take precedence over human life?
Just because someone has a sad tale to tell doesn’t make enforcing the law cruel or unfair. The gentleman mentioned in one of the comments above who died in the desert wasn’t killed by being deported he died trying to sneak in a second time. If I robbed a bank twenty years ago used the money to start a small business and raised a family and then got caught should I be pardoned and allowed to continue my life as before? Compassion is not a governing principle nor should it be. I am astounded that some teenager’s dream should trump the law.
And good on Rep. David Rivera for breaking with members of his party by being pro-life. The immigration laws (along with the drug laws) are some of the most draconian laws that our country has.
“The immigration laws of this country have been ignored by millions of illegal aliens,”
No, the laws have not been ignored by the illegal alieans of this country, the laws have failed the illegal aliens in this country.
Really? Please explain how our laws have “failed illegal aliens in this country.” And also please tell us exactly why should our laws help illegal aliens succeed? There is absolutely no reason why our laws should not “fail” illegal aliens.
The main failure here is our decadent government’s unwillingness to secure the border and to treat illegal aliens as the criminal parasites they are.
A secondary failure is that of the Republican Party feeling like it has to bail out Obama’s miserable record on immigration. Why are Republicans insistent on snatching defeat from the jaws of victory?
Don Jaime, don’t you see? The laws have also failed tens of thousands of thieves and rapists in this country! There they are, locked up, away from their families, leading meaningless, boring lives when they could be out in civil society being productive and prosperous. We have really let these unfortunate souls down.
Oh sure equate immigrants with thieves and rapists. Did your ancestors come to the US to rape and steal?
My ancestors came here, applied for citizenship and were not granted it until they could speak English, pass a health exam, an American history exam, prove gainful employment, etc., etc. In other words, they followed the rules.
I am also tired of hearing the cases of valedictorians or “productive members of society” being subjected to deportation as though that describes the majority or even a significant percentage of all illegal aliens. There is a reason that illegals are bankrupting our healthcare and entitlement systems, and make up over 25% of our prison population. It’s not because they’re valedictorians.
“No, the laws have not been ignored by the illegal alieans of this country, the laws have failed the illegal aliens in this country.”
What part of “illegal” and “law” escapes your grasp? It seems the illegals knowingly ignored the law, but your emotion seems to clutter your logic.
And good on Rep. David Rivera for breaking with members of his party
Democrats always think it’s wonderful when Republicans break with their own party. Ask Joe Lieberman how Democrats react to members of their own party who break ranks.
Mr. Rivera needs to be removed from the GOP caucus.
Alternatively, since I don’t think my views would be welcome anyway, much less acted upon, , they being more concerned with statecraft than winning elections, I could remove myself from the ranks of those who vote GOP on national issues. I’m sure many will consider it a small loss and good riddance, a freak of no great import wasting his vote–but I am not supplying the rope to men who would have me eventually hung with it, just because they desire more fashionable friends.
Is controlling immigration a legitimate function of the United States government?
Yes, though the constitution should have been amended instead of legislating.
Here’s an ultra-radical solution to the ILLEGAL ALIEN problem. Enforce the so-called “draconian” laws. No other country in the world is as unwilling to enforce their laws regarding ILLEGAL ALIENS.
Other countries do not have a self defeating immigration policy like we do. I know several engineers with masters degrees, whom had jobs, but had to leave the country because they could not get sponsored. We are constantly loosing highly educated foreign students because of our crappy immigration policy. We are shooting ourselves in the foot.
We’re your engineer friends here legally? We have plenty of American engineers with a master’s degree who could use a job.
Try going to Mexico, or Germany or Switzerland ILLEGALLY. You’ll end up in jail soon enough.
We are constantly loosing highly educated foreign students ..
Do they know how to spell “losing” properly? Perhaps if America had a half-way functional educational system it would not need to keep importing foreigners to do mundane jobs.
Until we seal the border to prevent additional crossings, the problem can never be solved. Giving them amnesty every 20 years encourages them to come and hold for the next amnesty.
And if we are going to give these children a path to legalization (even if it doesn’t give them a path to citizenship) we need to include a provision that they can never sponsor anyone to come/stay here. We can not reward their parents for bringing them here int he first place.
Although, if someone is willing to serve in the military (not some VISTA/Peace Corps agency, but in an actual full time military capacity) I’m willing to reward them with citizenship. But again with the caveat that they can not sponsor others.
Tea Party Flexes its Muscles in Texas Ben Adler on June 1, 2012
http://www.thenation.com/blog/168181/tea-party-flexes-its-muscles-texas
Immigration is a complicated mess. For me to support any kind of legalization (I would never support citizenship) of people who came here illegally, the following would have to be in place first.
1. Stop illegal border crossings.
2. Have an effective way to find and deport those who came here legally, but overstayed their visas.
3. Stop the insane process of allowing legal immigrants to bring their entire extended families here. Only immediate families (spouse, children) should be allowed in to join a family member. Other than that, our primary criterion for who can come here legally should be what they will do for US. Highly educated, successful people should get first priority. Third cousins of someone here legally need not apply.
Get these things done, then we can talk about it, but I make no promises about what I’ll go along with.
It’s a crock. Once the “chosen” alien is granted amnesty, he’ll bring in the entire clan. No thanks. The checkered pants Republicans better get used to the idea that big game hunting now involves RINOS. And that goes for the pretty boy Marco Rubio who is starting to go all Hispanic instead of putting his Americanism first. If he thinks HE will get away with it, he’s got another thought coming.
You have no chance any more GRINGOS. None at all. Your empty strutting peacock, your el Presidente appoints the is the commander of your armed forces and I now own him. I had to pay him muchos dolares as he is very greedy man and does not seem to think that he can ever have too much money. You are now tostada quemada. What on Earth were you thinking when you elected a traidor as your el Presidente? Were you all completely drunk? Way too much Tequila on election day? Oh well, your loss, my gain.
Once we get our amnesty, we will all come to your country. We will all have at least 10 ninos with mucho tax credits from you Gringo smucks and in a generation or two we will overwhelm and deport most of you Gringos! We will start with Arizona after your el Presidente moves federal troops there to arrest their governor and Joe Arpaio and hand the deed over to us and then we will move rapido from there all across the rest of your 57 states to take them over too. Some of you, if you learn Spanish real well, we might let you stay to pick our lettuce or mow our lawns or take care of OUR children in what used to be your houses. Those who don’t learn Spanish will be deported to Alaska. That is until Al Gore’s global warming heats things up and we want Alaska too, then we will deport you all to New Orleans. It will probably all be under water by then anyway.
So give it up and LEARN SPANISH! You should probably all buy Mexican flags too and fly them in your front yard and on your pickup trucks. If you already have an American flag there it is alright if you keep it, as long as you fly it upside down and below our great Mexican flag. Now repeat after me – I pledge allegiance to the flag of the Estados Unidos del Mucho Grande Mexico, and to the Republic for which it use to stand, one nation under me, with everything for us, and nothing anymore for you Gringo smucks except to pay mucho mucho mucho more taxes for our tax credits. And remember Gringos, APRENDER EL ESPANOL!!!
Sure we’ve all read Victor Davis Hanson’s columns about out of control immigration in California. Yes, criminals, welfare cheats, and gangbangers all deserve what is coming to them if they are here illegally. But there are millions who are here illegally who are simply working. This is a case of the punishment fitting the crime. I knew a guy (a legal American citizen) who got five months in jail for driving drunk for the third time and he had his kid in the back seat. He lost his job and contact with his family and friends for only five months. Working scrubbing dishes in a greasy spoon is worse? That illegal dishwasher deserves to be separated from his family and job for how long? Permenently? And you say, “well he could go through the proper channels…” Ok so he leaves his family and work and applies and waits for months, then years, and then gets rejected. Or he risks it and stays illegally. What would you do? Why is he here in the first place? I don’t know, but what would your circumstances have to be like for you to go scrub toilets in Canada? Probably not so good. It’s easy to sit in suburbia and self righteously demand drastic punishments for laws you yourself will never ever break but not everyone has that luxury. I don’t drive but I’d like to propose that everyone who drives over the speed limit lose their license for five years. How about that? I don’t care what the difference is between driving 67 in a 65 mph zone and driving 95 in a 65 zone. It’s the LAW!!!!! I don’t care if you need your license for work. It’s the LAW!!!!! In the Northeast at least, the Mexicans I see literally every day are here working hard and even make the effort to speak decent English. If the Republicans look responsible for rounding up people like this and deporting them, the people they leave behind will NEVER NEVER NEVER vote GOP. “Oh yeah the GOP, they deported my father who came here and spent ten hours a day cooking to make money for his family.” This will drive them to the democrats where, yes, they will be fed the welfare state line. This doesn’t have to be. Clearly, not all Mexicans are family oriented, church going folk, but the ones who are are VERY family oriented church-going folk. A socially conservative, entreprenurial message would resonate strongly with many of them. In Spain the left fears the time when the recent immigrants from South America are able to vote because they are so socially conservative. That would change in an instant if the right starts trying to boot them all out of the country. Plus population growth is necessary for economic growth. We need population growth. And if someone has been here for a while as a responsible hard working person, we want them. Don’t we? Instead let’s completely ruin their lives- literally take away everything they have and make it virtually impossible for them to get it back. Who cares if we break up their family. Who cares what their circumstances were in their home country. I’m an American and I’m here LEGALLY!!! (never mind that I didn’t have to DO anything to achieve that and would never leave because my life is so comfortable here thanks in large part to my immigrant great grandparents who probably would have been here illegally too if the same laws were on the books.)
Mr. Hawkins,
I can’t say this with absolute certainty, but you need to understand that their is a very real possibility that if we do as you wish, not only could there not be ever again a united GOP, but a united United States as well.
Sir, drop dead. Metaphorically, of course. But you *will* yield. Period.
Well you are right. If the best we can do is round up hard working people and kick them out with a boot in their tail…that will be the end of the US as I know it. Ripping families apart is a nasty harsh thing to do. And completely insane and impractical. And unnecessary- do these Mexican busboys and dishwashers scare you that much? Sure seal the border. Just calm down with all the “KICK ‘EM ALL OUT!!!!” hysteria. By the way, I’m a little more concerned by the tons and tons of cocaine that seem to be able to make it through. How does that happen?
Who’s putting their families in harm’s way in the first place? Are they monkeys they don’t understand or are they grifters hoping they don’t get caught? And no one’s ripping anyone apart. They can live in their countries of origin – together. What is so hard to grasp about that?
there are millions who are here illegally who are simply working.
Simply working illegally.
That illegal dishwasher deserves to be separated from his family and job for how long?
He does not have to be separated from his family at all. His children, who are Mexican citizens even if born in the US, can go and live with him in Mexico.
Stop trying to engage in charity on my dime. That’s always been the besetting flaw of liberals – they want the state to do good on their behalf.
I have an idea. Why don’t we pass and enforce the same immigrations laws that Mexico has? Last I was aware of, they make our “draconian laws” look friendly.
I guarantee it is easier for a well educated person to get a visa to work in Mexico, than it is here.
I have a DREAM Act too. All foreign nationals, in the U.S. illegally, returning to their home countries. If they want to come back, no problem, stand in line and do it legally.
Just think of the advantages. Greater availability of jobs and housing, fewer people on the road, smaller class sizes, less crime and smaller prison population, shorter wait times to see a doctor and less pressure on scarce resources. If the law of supply and demand still works this should mean lower prices at the pump, lower food prices, heck any number of things might drop in price.
Ah yes, I have a dream…
Who do you think harvests the food? I’m thinking food prices will rise. Also with a stagnating population heading into Europe/Japan demographic doldrums. Oh yeah and I don’t think we exactly have a scarcity in housing. I mean really, are Mexicans making life so difficult for you right now? Drama queen.
Nothing in what I said would preclude a guest worker program for picking crops—though I have little sympathy for any business model that depends on labor below the market rate, especially labor open to intimidation and deportation.
“Also with a stagnating population heading into Europe/Japan demographic doldrums.” Odd argument, I read quite often about how automation is making many jobs obsolete requiring fewer workers in the workforce overall and how the people we have now are putting undo pressure on resources like water and food sources. The end result being fewer people would be a good thing.
“I mean really, are Mexicans making life so difficult for you right now?” I don’t care what country they come from, if they are here illegally they should leave. Your problem with Mexicans notwithstanding.
Do you imagine a single Minnesota farmer in the last century and more hasn’t harvested their own corn, alfafa and grain? What country do you live in?
I’m thinking food prices will rise.
I think that you know nothing of the subject you are pontificating about. Farm labor makes up a miniscule percentage of the cost of produce. If farm wages rose 40 percent, and this wage increase were passed on to consumers, average spending on fresh fruits and vegetables would rise about $15 a year. If farm wages rose 40 percent, and this wage increase were passed on to consumers, the 10 cent farm labor cost of a pound of apples would rise to 14 cents, and the $1 retail price would rise to a whopping $1.04.
If paying an extra $15/year is just too much for the consumers to bear (which is doubtful, to put it mildly) then farmers could exit the 18th century and consider these new-fangled things called “automation” and “machinery”.
My own grandfather was an illegal alien.
As a young man, he came to America from Russia before World War II, and his papers were never in order. On top of that, he was a Communist; he soon joined the CPUSA and became active in it.
If some of the folks posting in this discussion had their way, immigration enforcement and deportation would have been so strict that my own grandfather would have been deported–and I would not exist today.
It’s because of that personal experience that I just can’t go along with this draconian “Deport them all” attitude that I see evident here in this discussion. Not to mention that it’s a fantasy; things would have to get a lot worse in the U.S. before all the illegal aliens would leave voluntarily.
And deporting them by force? No thank you, we don’t do ethnic cleansing here in America. The spectacle of seeing millions of Latino men, women and children raided from their homes and herded onto trucks and trains and transported, is going to look too reminiscent of past ethnic cleansings in Europe.
“Look”isn’t the same as “is.” What, we’re not going to prosecute crime now if an uncomfortably high number is a certain ethnicity? This is why political correctness is so worthless.
If some of the folks posting in this discussion had their way, immigration enforcement and deportation would have been so strict that my own grandfather would have been deported–and I would not exist today
I get really tired of this (remarkably stupid) Jewish attitude that restricting immigration today is an attack on them. Could you possibly display any more self-absorbed onanism? If immigration had been more restrictive in the past then many of us would not exist today. But that tells us absolutely nothing about whether we should or should not restrict immigration today.
And deporting them by force? No thank you, we don’t do ethnic cleansing here in America.
What’s this “we” crap?
The US would be a much better place today if your illegal alien Communist progenitor HAD been deported. I can see why you are so sympathetic to the illegals…..just another group of grifters coming to a great country and trying to undermine it from the inside.
Socialists, communists, progressives, whatever, all enemies of the US and its Constitution.
Interesting comments. It seems the one thing most agree to is securing the borders. That would be a good first step in sorting out this mess.
I am so encouraged that now there are so many now, who refute amnesty of any kind, and refute all the democrat arguments and “excuses”! America is waking up and though it has been a long uphill fight we are winning finally. Please, those of you here opposed to amnesty and this invasion of illegals, join NUMBERSUSA.COM and send FREE faxes to congress. There is strength in numbers and being organized helps greatly.
I also have noticed many liberals posting here, attempting to “EXCUSE” all the illegal behavior, and attempting to use pity and emotion to get conservatives to go along with the destruction of OUR country. Don’t buy into it. They are wrong as usual, listening to them has brought OUR country to the brink of destruction. I don’t want to give citizenship to those that break and scoff our laws, who march with Mexican flags and threaten….
We have over TWENTY MILLION AMERICANS out of work or underemployed while we have probably thirty to forty illegals here taking jobs and collecting government benefits they aren’t eligible for, lying about their citizenship status, voting, filing for tax credits for children they don’t have or that they aren’t supporting and who don’t really live in this country.
Secure the borders, enforce our existing laws, institute E-Verify nationwide for all, stop all government benefits to illegals and non citizens, and deport all found here illegally…