Going Rogue Too Dumb for San Fran Bookstores. What Smart Books Made The Cut?
On the Justice of Roosting Chickens: Reflections on the Consequences of U.S. Imperial Arrogance and Criminality (Paperback)
By … Ward Churchill.
The Green Collar Economy: How One Solution Can Fix Our Two Biggest Problems (Hardcover)
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Inner Paths to Outer Space: Journeys to Alien Worlds Through Psychedelics and Other Spiritual Technologies (Paperback)
“Those who regularly navigate the hyperspatial landscape that some have called the ‘tryptamine dimension’ have long suspected that the portals to inner and outer space may be one and the same. This book, a collaboration of the most cutting-edge shaman/neuroscientists working in this field, boldly explores this concept in a stunning tour de force.”
The Framing of Mumia Abu-Jamal (Paperback)
By J. Patrick O’Connor
Fugitive Days: Memoirs of an Anti-War Activist (Paperback)
By William Ayers
Ash Wednesday (Paperback)
By Ethan Hawke
Underground: My Life with SDS and the Weathermen (Hardcover)
By Mark Rudd
Cold Fusion: Challenge to U.S. Science Policy (Hardcover)
By Lyndon H. Larouche
J.Lo: The Secret Behind Jennifer Lopez’s Rise to the Top (Paperback)
By National Enquirer, Sarah Gallick
I pray we are never attacked again by radical muslims but if we are, could you please direct your fury here.
Don’t worry. The (actual) smart people in San Francisco will order it off amazon.com and spend their money elsewhere.
Ah, San Francisco. Gomorrah on the Pacific! I wonder if Tony Bennett ever went back to reclaim his heart.
San Francisco gave us Nancy Pelosi, Gavin Newsom, and Marc Morford. Don’t need to know much more about it, do we?
Yes, but this is not odd. Keep in mind that SF is a city where you are not allowed to smoke outside, but it is okay to urinate on the sidewalk.
A good way to choose books it so took what is stocked & sold in SF &…then buy anything BUT these books.
…Ah, make that “is to look” instead of “it so took.” Sorry bout that. Was getting in tune w/ my psychic/psychedelic karma from SF-NOT!
#2 has it correct. I live in Marin County — immediately north of San Francisco. I went to the dentist on 11/18/09 and there was a woman in the waiting room reading Palin’s new book. So even if our bookstores won’t carry the book, people will still get it. Thank goodness for the internet. And really, why enrich Bay Area bookstores anyway?
“Our customers are thinking people,” said Nathan Embretson, a bookseller at Pendragon Books in Oakland. “They’re not into reading drivel.”
Nothing like being a pretentious ass.
Not surprising. It’s interesting how liberals, liberal areas tout ‘Diversity’ or their own twisted sense of the word, exude or reflect little if any when differing views are available/ broached.
The epitome of the small minded ideologue. i.e. San Francisco
Come Brothers and Sisters,
Tonight we are having a book reading sleepover.
Put your shoes under the bed,
dress in your purple pajamas and nightgowns.
Now take a big drink of grape kool-aid, lie back and I will read you into the wonderful green twilight of another world.
The Iron Cage: The Story of the Palestinian Struggle for Statehood (Paperback)
By … Rashid Khalidi.
Hilarious. The man is a professor and highly respected author with impecable academic credentials. Do you think the words “Palestinian” here condemn him? Another example of the empty-headed bigotry that your movement represents. Your readers know little to nothing about this man or his work; what you do know was a series of rumors propigated during the 2008 elections. I doubt any of you could make a cogent argument as to why including this great work–which I have read and have in my book shelf–is a damning act. In fact, the book is far more critical of Palestinians than it is of Israelis–the book is an analysis of the failures of Palestinians to form a cohesive movement from the beginning of the first Zionist aliyahs.
You’re welcome to try to prove your point, I look forward to making you look stupid. Come on, then, you little pigs.
Is this pajamas way of saying Rick Moran is an ass? Or, maybe San Franciso is doomed!
The man is a professor and highly respected author
Respected by who? By you? Tell me who respects you and I will tell you what that respsct is worth for. In that case nothing.
with impecable academic credentials.
Just like Ward Churchill and similar clowns.
Any allegiance to the author by the likes of you MOMO, is what ultimately condemns him but any intelligent reader would get the point that you’ve either missed by choice or by ideology. Ruminate upon excrement and expire MOMO!
God forbid let the words of the plain talking Mom from Alaska penetrate the Fortified Liberal Groupthink Dome. These ideas could destroy everything we’ve built, I tell you! Everything! Everything!!!!!!!
It’s the same old joke:
Why are there so many flakes in San Francisco?
Because it’s illegal to push them the rest of the way into the Pacific.
JFM:
This man, who called Khalidi, “eminent in his field” is surely an anti-semite!
http://explore.georgetown.edu/people/hudsonm/
And this:
“He was formerly the President of the Middle East Studies Association, a Fellow at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars and a Fulbright research award recipient.”
Surely the Fulbright doesn’t KNOW what you KNOW!
And the American Prospect, that bastion of liberalism!
Both a rapid-talking native New Yorker and the scion of an established Jerusalem Arab family, Rashid Khalidi is widely considered one of today’s preeminent historians of the Palestinians.
http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?articleId=12403
I just told you, you idiot. Its quite clear you know nothing about him. He as much to do with Ward Churchill, a professor at a tiny Colorado university as he does with your ignorant a@#. Next.
I doubt any of you could make a cogent argument as to why including this great work is a damning act.
Point proven in 3 minutes:
Any allegiance to the author by the likes of you MOMO, is what ultimately condemns him
Too easy. These trolls lack fiber, I say. Are there none among you with half a brain to put together?
#12 JFM :MOHORON,in his usual stalinist way, pushes fellow stalinists’agitprop.”Respected academic”,is another oxyMOHORONonic libtard statement like:”social security lock box”,or “high quality public medical care”,or “soft power”. Laughable,and MOHORONIC!
Rick Strassman and his ilk (like Terrance Mckenna) may be a pretty granola but that’s no reason to lump them in with idiots like Van Jones and Bill Ayers.
Palestinians? aren’t those the same people used to be part of Jordan and Egypt? That were judged too disreputable by those ARAB nations to have as fellow citizens?
16. Moho: “preeminent historians of the Palestinians” Hitler had preeminent historians odf the Nazis on his payroll, your point?
Deguello. I see you were in a hurry to include yourself in the group of idiots unable to make a cogent argument about your beliefs. Is it always this easy? Your kids must run you like a shark runs a pool table.
If they were smart, they already moved out of California with its sunken economy
Their loss.
“our customers are thinking people”
Groupthinkers. Which are non-thinkers pretending to think.
As for troll names,what about Moho ho?
Folks, you have a decision to make here. You can allow this tool, moho, to continue his attempt to hijack the thread into a debate on Khalidi (which the assclown has already lost by trying to paint TAP as something other than what Ted Kennedy called it on the bottom of the very page moho cited), or you can stick to discussing the broad and valid points of the article.
/snark
Probably because the homosexual men hate women and the lesbians/femi-Nazis can’t stand to be shown just how empty their lives really are.
/end snark
Any academic department that ends or includes the word “Studies” is basically a pricey place where people go to learn grievance and victimization ideology. The degrees usually have a true academic value slightly above used toilet paper. Post Academia organizations that end or include “Studies” in the name are generally the places the graduates of the aforementioned schools go to waste taxpayer dollars whilst engaging in an intellectual circle jerk.
He as much to do with Ward Churchill, a professor at a tiny Colorado university
Moho, Colorado University is a “tiny Colorado university” in the same way that UC Berkeley is an obscure college in California.
Yeah, I live pretty close to this bookstore. It is just around the corner from “Global Exchange” which is run by Medea Benjamin. Plenty of teh crazy to go around in SF.
For all the “liberals” that claim to stand for diversity and equal treatment and fairness for all here is hard evidence that you are nothing but a pack of lying hypocrites.
The leftist are so afraid to hear opposing viewpoints they support banning and limiting citizens access to hear viewpoints that differ from their leftist propaganda.
Here ya go , practice this line until you get it down, It will fit the leftist agenda to a tee…
Sieg Heil ObaMao….
moho: feel lonely? nobody to play with? who cares what you think, believe or defend. you are to be toyed with since debate with you is insulting to one’s moral conscience.
Hey, perhaps they’ll stock my book, Jack The Ripper – A Great Friend Of Feminism
“The man is a professor and highly respected author with impeccable academic credentials.”
I just threw up a little bit in my mouth. Professor…highly respected author…impeccable academic credentials – sounds an awful lot like that incredible bore who is running our country.
I’m so tired of the elites thinking they’re better than everyone else just because they went to Hahvad or wherever. That’s part of what makes Palin so likable, that she’s not one of them.
Point proven again:
30.
And again:
27.
Clayton:
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/national-universities-rankings
Top Ranked Schools:
8. Columbia
20.UC berkeley
University of Colorado at Boulder–does not have an entry on that list, it is a Tier 4 school, the lowest rank for national universities.
I’m so tired of the elites thinking they’re better than everyone else just because they went to Hahvad or wherever. That’s part of what makes Palin so likable, that she’s not one of them.
Why not just elect my barber?
Rashid Khalidi is the Edward Said Professor of Arab Studies at Columbia University. He once served as Director of the Palestinian press agency, Wikalat al-Anba al-Filastinija. In the 1980s he so strongly identified with the aims of the Palestine Liberation Organization, designated a terrorist organization by the State Department during Khalidi’s affiliation with the Yasser Arafat-run political entity, that he repeatedly referred to himself as “we” when expounding on the PLO’s agenda. Additional evidence of Khalidi’s intimacy with the PLO can be seen in his involvement with a so-called PLO “guidance committee” in the early 1990s.
Yea, nice guy moho. Real pillar of our society.
That ranking has been proven to be pretty bogus Moho, the actual education curriculum at most of those schools is pretty bad, especially outside the sciences.
“Come on, then, you little pigs.”
Very classy, you skeevy little a@#h@@@.
“University of Colorado at Boulder–does not have an entry on that list, it is a Tier 4 school, the lowest rank for national universities.”
My gawd, but you are stupid and lazy. Did you page through that list? If you had, you might of seen this:
http://colleges.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-colleges/boulder-co/cu-boulder-1370
It’s the same damn site! The same source. Tier 4, Tier 1, whatever. CU would still not accept you as you have not finished high school.
Now let me reply for you, as a skeevy little a@#h@@@:
LOL. You are so stupid! Its (sic) obvious I was referring to the first page of the list! Only a complete conservative moron would think that ranking 77 nationally would put a school in the first tier! HAHA What an idiot. Little piggy.
http://www.colorado.edu/news/nobel/
How many Nobel winners were there at the high school you dropped out of? None you say?
There are bookstores in New York City that look like you stepped into a time machine, and you were back in the 1970s, with Che Guevara and other loathsome deformed souls portrayed boldly. Guess what, they didn’t carry “The Case for Democracy” by Natan Sharansky, as was laid out in Sharansky’s follow up book.
It is easier to cover eyes, when it comes to perspective, in order not to see what one does not want to see. Now, this behaviour is hardly new.
“Professor” Rashid Khalidi has been shilling for terrorists since the early 1980s. Neither his vocabulary nor his agenda has changed, except that he oversaw Columbia University’s interpretation of the Arab-Israeli conflict.
34. Moho:Like Ive said before, Moho is allowed to post here despite all of her ad hominem attacks because she makes liberals look stupid arrogant and childish.
You’ve all got to remember that sometimes function follows form. She weighs 400 lbs. Its not surprising that she hates all of the things that she does because of the constant rejection she has gotten in life.
She hates beauty, she hates vitality, she hates masculinity and femininity. Thats why she is a perfect paid troll for moveon.org
Once again!!…MoHo saya he’s a muslim..That means, no feelings for humanity, esp women…get it right!!!!
Leave MoHo alone, he’s deaf to what is good for America.
Day after day you allow him, the troll, to hijack your posts. He will disagree with you, no matter the subject, and he will give you irrelevant Huffington based information, outdated etc..stuff he trolls the internet for..no matter how irrelevant and you will jump at it…
QUIT IT!! pleae.. you give him breath!!
Rashid Khalidi is the Edward Said Professor of Arab Studies at Columbia University. He once served as Director of the Palestinian press agency, Wikalat al-Anba al-Filastinija. In the 1980s he so strongly identified with the aims of the Palestine Liberation Organization, designated a terrorist organization by the State Department during Khalidi’s affiliation with the Yasser Arafat-run political entity, that he repeatedly referred to himself as “we” when expounding on the PLO’s agenda. Additional evidence of Khalidi’s intimacy with the PLO can be seen in his involvement with a so-called PLO “guidance committee” in the early 1990s.
I love it. Defend one baseless accusation based on bigotry [a Palestinian!], with several others, none of them based on any evidence. This the house of cards structure that undergirds all of your political beliefs–which are literally beliefs!
More PLO supporters–Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Yitzhak Rabin, Ehud Ohlmert. LOL. Nice work.
34:
because your barber is very likely an intellectual midget like you, or you wouldn’t frequent his establishment. i like the way you assume that just because he is a barber or a ditch digger or a coal miner, insert any real job of your choosing, it doesn’t matter. It’s very clear that you feel that the “intellectuals” are better and smarter then someone who may actually provide a service to the population. I have an uncle who spouts off frequently just as you do. he’s such a popular guest at holiday parties that his wife and children wont allow him in their homes. If you haven’t been handed your a** by your immediate relatives as of yet, I suspect it may just be a matter of time.
The U.S. News rankings? Are you kidding? Geeze, speaking of groupthink.
On second thought, he thinks CU is a “tiny Colorado university,” which is a decidedly…unique position to take. Not to mention a counterfactual one.
One of these days you are gonna learn not to feed the trolls.
Baal: I shouldn’t tell you this, because you may stop writing it, but certainly this ranks among the stupidest insults I can imagine. But please don’t stop calling me that, it makes me laugh so.
5. jb: “One of these days you are gonna learn not to feed the trolls.”
Those darn trolls spoil our a-hole circle-jerk.
I don’t set foot in Oaland unless I absolutely have to. It’s a crime-ridden skankpit, so who cares what some idiot bookseller, who’s stupid enough to think that his crack-seller’s paradsise is some special sort of place full of intellectual giants, thinks?
If I wanted to score some drugs, I’d go to Oakland, if I want books, I’ll go to some place where my car will still be intact, once I’m done shopping.
It’s very clear that you feel that the “intellectuals” are better and smarter then someone who may actually provide a service to the population.
Yeah, President, no service there. Not like Mitch, my barber. No sir, they still write odes to his fantastic barbering and how it changed the community and our nation.
Well, looks like moho has grabbed the attention he craves, so might as well pile on.
“My gawd, but you are stupid and lazy.”
Yes, he is.
He started out using TAP as a source, and tried to show his cleverness in finding source he assumed conservatives would agree with by saying ‘And the American Prospect, that bastion of liberalism!’. The j**ka$$ cut and pasted a url based on the search terms he googled with that had a fluff interview and because of the name of the site, assumed it was a conservative source. Moron hadn’t a clue about the site to start and just scrolling through the page he would have seen Ted Kennedy’s endorsement of TAP’s ‘fresh’, liberal voice.
Moving on,
He called UC ‘tiny’ without any idea that it’s a 32k student university and the Boulder campus 28k+. Clayton corrected him, so the tool had to shift gears to his claim that UC is a Tier 4 school – which has nothing whatsoever to do with being tiny in any intelligent person’s use of the word. Beclowned himself again because he didn’t realize there were more than one page of listings at the site he referenced.
And so it started. He beclowned himself for the amusement of the reader, but at the same time successfully deflected the thread away from a discussion of the core points made in the article and into a course destined to set himself up for further derision.
To what purpose was he acknowledged in the first place? The regular readers and commenters already know he’s a blithering idiot.
The “independent” book stores are simply acting like intelligent capitalists: why should they be expected to stock books that none of their regular customers would ever purchase? They know their own demographics.. The total number of all books these guys sell in a week would not amount to about a half hour’s sales of Palin’s nationally. We don’t really need a list of the books that they sell: most of them are lucky if they achieve 1,000 in sales of their first and only edition.
Books of the kind that appeal to the minds of well-read Mighty Intellectuals like MOle HOle and his fellow trolls.
Denial is frequently an indicator of fear and loathing.
“Our customers are thinking people,” said Nathan Embretson, a bookseller at Pendragon Books in Oakland. “They’re not into reading drivel.”
This attitude is prevalent in independent bookstores in Oakland and Berkeley. I’ve purposefully tried to find books by conservative and Republican authors with no luck. Not even a Bob Novak or a WF Buckley book. You should hear the owners and patrons squeal because sales are low and they can’t compete with chain stores. Well, if you sold something worth selling–Navel Gazing for Dummies is not a best seller–then maybe you’d stay in business. Dopes.
Thank god of Amazon.com and the Conservative Book Club.
Lessee, this economy totally sucks. A book that flies off the shelves. Who wouldn’t want to sell that book? Oh, right, someone with brains.
Dear Lord, but these people are dumb!
Don’t let this article fool you, the book is available at every Borders and Barnes and Knoble in the bay area. In fact, it debuts at 40% off, lol.
http://www.walletpop.com/blog/2009/11/17/borders-books-coupons-and-40-off-going-rogue/
So popular it sells at nearly half price!
Commuter – Well, of course, generally speaking you’re right but just a second pardner. This is merely a humorous puff piece on the blatant silliness of San Francisco liberalism. Momo comes along and adds a dollop of whip cream and a cherry. A perfect opportunity to heap well earned abuse on one of our trolling idiots, Momo the mohammedan.
“I don’t like you people.” says Momo.
LOL, like I would like anyone who calls me a Mohammedan
Thomas: [whine] Why people call me bigot? It not fair. I only sound bigot, me no bigot in me honkee heart”
I doubt any of you could make a cogent argument as to why including this great work is a damning act.
Proven again at #50. By the way, you’re angry because I called a bastion of liberalism a bastion of liberalism? Hmmm. Glad to see your priorities are in order.
Its called the free market. No store anywhere is required to carry any particular book. If their customers want the book, they’ll ask for it at their bookstore and if their bookstore won’t carry it, then they’ll lose the business.
Any bookstore is free to carry whatever books they want to carry, or not carry. Whether or not this is a successful business strategy is a different story.
#34 Moho: We’ve sparred before, so your intellectual vacuity is nothing new. Why not elect your barber? I’d say he would be better than what we have now. Our current Chief Administrator seems to have a penchant for voting “present” at crunch time. And sadly, he is present and nothing more.
As the (truly) intellectual William F. Buckley once quipped, “I’d rather be governed by the first 100 names in the phone book than by the entire Harvard faculty.” Perhaps you’ve heard of Mr. Buckley. Although now deceased, when living, he could verbally slice a liberal like you into a spiral ham the second you finished your first sentence. R.I.P., William F. Buckley.
My wife and I used to consider San Francisco our favoarite town to visit. We loved the feeling we got walking through the city and incountering it’s citizens who, by the wasy, were very friendly. The last time we went back there were drunken homless people in every little park where we used to sit and all of the doorways smell of urine. The quaint little pubs and shops have dissappeared and rough looking panhandlers are every where. Old Tony’s heart was stolen and cooked by the bums there. Mayor Newsome has done a great job of ruining a great city. To see these idiot bookstore owners decide what their customers should read is right out of the leftist manifesto.
My wife and I used to consider San Francisco our favoarite town to visit. We loved the feeling we got walking through the city and incountering it’s citizens who, by the way, were very friendly. The last time we went back there were drunken homless people in every little park where we used to sit and all of the doorways smell of urine.
LOL, apparently, the last time you were in San Francisco was 1951.
Moho:
You continue showing your perfect ignorance. Why don’t you take a break, let the rest of us relax for awhile? It’s not Knoble, it is Noble. You’re so dumb you believe there actually are people called Palestinians. Look up how they got their name. I mean, it is actually history, if you will go to the libary reference section. I know you can read because you write, poorly. Palestinians, so-called, are really tribal people no one will accept in the middle east, except the Israelis, whom the “Palestinians” repay by homicide-bombing. There is no such place as Palestine. About electing your barber, he is likely a nutcase Muslim and smarter than you. No thanks. My domestic cat is smarter than you, but perhaps not smarter than your barber. Give us a break for a week or so, please. Then we can read your crap again.
just as someone who has worked in bookstores. Inventory is somewhat demographically driven, but the large chain stores will carry a few copies of any new book with national exposure, just in case. Every sale counts. During the 04 election all the stores in my solidly democratic area carried Unfit for Command. we didn’t sell a lot, but it was there.
and as for the 40% off, thats standard pricing for a new book thats expected to sell well. Nothing special there, perhaps if a certain someone actually visited bookstores that wouldn’t be such a confusing concept.
359 Chuck . . .
“Even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value, marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could.”
“It is not a sign of arrogance for the king to rule. That is what he is there for.”
“I would like to electrocute everyone who uses the word “fair” in connection with income tax policies.”
“Some of my instincts are reprehensible.”
One can’t doubt that the American objective in Iraq has failed….different plans have to be made. And the kernel here is the acknowledgement of defeat.”
“Mr. Bush is in the hands of a fortune that will be unremitting on the point of Iraq. If he’d invented the Bill of Rights, it wouldn’t get him out of his jam.”
. . . but of course, conservatives are more than willing to give W a pass . . . reprehensible indeed.
I doubt any of you could make a cogent argument as to why including this great work is a damning act.
Proven again at #62. Is there no one who can actually mount a defense of an argument here? I’d be embarrassed for you idiots, if it weren’t so funny to watch you pushing each other out of the way to prove my assertion.
It’s not Knoble, it is Noble (wow, you’ve cut me to the quick). You’re so dumb you believe there actually are people called Palestinians….There is no such place as Palestine.
Although now deceased, when living, he could verbally slice a liberal like you into a spiral ham the second you finished your first sentence. R.I.P., William F. Buckley.
Buckley would have laughed his a$$ off at Palin. You obviously know nothing about the man.
Yeah, she’s one stand-up kind a gal:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/20/palin-booed-by-book-tour_n_365883.html
I went into a Berkeley comic book store earlier this year and asked if they had the Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton comic books that had just been released. The clerk checked his computer. Then the boss walked by, and the clerk asked him, “Do we have the Hillary Clinton comic book?” The boss replied, “No, we didn’t get that one. But we will be getting the Michele Obama one in a few weeks.” These people really do see themselves as the gatekeepers for what is good for the rest of us.
Hey Moho, maybe you shouldn’t follow your accusations of bigotry with a racial slur, you hypocrite.
Frank? Really? I shouldn’t? Because I do love to see you bigots prick up your ears whenever your language boomerangs back at you. Are you saying I won’t be able to enjoy the image of the poor oppressed white people as they valiantly protect their right to a bigotry free from bigoted reprisals. LOL.
I went into a Berkeley comic book store earlier this year and asked if they had the Sarah Palin and Hillary Clinton comic books that had just been released. The clerk checked his computer.These people really do see themselves as the gatekeepers for what is good for the rest of us.
Too bad you don’t have access to some kind of magical device that allows you to search for media on line. Then you would know that the comic sold out, doosh. Its pretty obvious, in a collector’s world, that such things fly off the shelf, Obama, Clinton or Bush.
Bluewater Productions is proud to announce that the comic book; FEMALE FORCE: SARAH PALIN has completely sold out and will be going back for a second printing.
I live about 80 miles from the city by the bay and by all means it’s going to see the day when it sinks into oblivion! The cesspool has gone to such extreme you have a nutroot viz;moho trying to defend an agenda of such bizarre notions and I say notions, because just like this quad he believes in EVERYTHING! Man he’s probably that damn bookstore owner! His agenda is to inflict all of his notions onto anyone that does not believe in all his notions! Does that sound right? Wow living in Cali is gettin to me and I was born and raised here. NO it’s the quads that come into this state and make it Nutrooty! I will read the book Palin has written, thank you very much moho! And I can buy it offline! YEAH BABY! GO PALIN!
#50
“Well, looks like moho has grabbed the attention he craves, so might as well pile on.
“My gawd, but you are stupid and lazy.”
Yes, he is.
He started out using TAP as a source, and tried to show his cleverness in finding source he assumed conservatives would agree with by saying ‘And the American Prospect, that bastion of liberalism!’. The j**ka$$ cut and pasted a url based on the search terms he googled with that had a fluff interview and because of the name of the site, assumed it was a conservative source. Moron hadn’t a clue about the site to start and just scrolling through the page he would have seen Ted Kennedy’s endorsement of TAP’s ‘fresh’, liberal voice.
Moving on,
He called UC ‘tiny’ without any idea that it’s a 32k student university and the Boulder campus 28k+. Clayton corrected him, so the tool had to shift gears to his claim that UC is a Tier 4 school – which has nothing whatsoever to do with being tiny in any intelligent person’s use of the word. Beclowned himself again because he didn’t realize there were more than one page of listings at the site he referenced.
And so it started. He beclowned himself for the amusement of the reader, but at the same time successfully deflected the thread away from a discussion of the core points made in the article and into a course destined to set himself up for further derision.
To what purpose was he acknowledged in the first place? The regular readers and commenters already know he’s a blithering idiot.”
Quoting this just because the cognitive prowess of the “intellectual elite” who elected the Obama needs to be pointed out twice.
#50
“Well, looks like moho has grabbed the attention he craves, so might as well pile on.
“My gawd, but you are stupid and lazy.”
Yes, he is.
He started out using TAP as a source, and tried to show his cleverness in finding source he assumed conservatives would agree with by saying ‘And the American Prospect, that bastion of liberalism!’. The j**ka$$ cut and pasted a url based on the search terms he googled with that had a fluff interview and because of the name of the site, assumed it was a conservative source. Moron hadn’t a clue about the site to start and just scrolling through the page he would have seen Ted Kennedy’s endorsement of TAP’s ‘fresh’, liberal voice.
Moving on,
He called UC ‘tiny’ without any idea that it’s a 32k student university and the Boulder campus 28k+. Clayton corrected him, so the tool had to shift gears to his claim that UC is a Tier 4 school – which has nothing whatsoever to do with being tiny in any intelligent person’s use of the word. Beclowned himself again because he didn’t realize there were more than one page of listings at the site he referenced.
And so it started. He beclowned himself for the amusement of the reader, but at the same time successfully deflected the thread away from a discussion of the core points made in the article and into a course destined to set himself up for further derision.
To what purpose was he acknowledged in the first place? The regular readers and commenters already know he’s a blithering idiot.”
Quoting this just because the cognitive prowess of the “intellectual elite” who elected the Obama needs to be pointed out twice.
It is a little odd that a tool like Moho would slander boulder though, it seems like the kind of place he would exalt.
This is as usual fun, though this time around in addition to the usual village idiot (moho) we have a class clown (Now and Then) also. So, moho says that Palin’s book is available at *every* Barnes & Noble and Borders in the bay area. Well the last time I was in San Francisco (which is the subject of the article, after all) that amounted to one store for each chain, period. Now I haven’t been up to SF recently, so I don’t know. Maybe they have built more since (I doubt it though, both stores are in financial difficulties). And I can’t speak to the veracity of the article in question, though the snotty quote about “thinking people” from the one guy sounds just like a liberal intellectual wannabe working in a bookstore. Yes, I’ve worked in a few myself, over the years.
Oh, and the 40% discount is what’s called a “loss leader”. The old Crown Books chain (very popular and successful for years, and done in by corporate shenanigans) invented the concept about 25 years ago. The idea was that you sold books that you knew would be very popular at a price where you’d either break even, or lose a few pennies, but by selling the book to a customer, you’d gotten them into the store, and so they might buy something else, not discounted so heavily. Crown used to put their books at the *back of the store* to force you to walk by merchandise on the way to pick up whatever you came for. The discount doesn’t mean they’re trying to get rid of it, it means they think it’ll sell, and they want to attract customers. The last Harry Potter book was released with a similar discount: do you think that means Harry’s not popular either?
People, please ignore the trolls!! In 70 or so comments, most have been shiit-slinging by them and real intellectual’s attempts to have a battle of wits with unarmed trolls.
Like little bratty children, if you ignore them, they get tired, go back to their cribs, suck their thumbs and poop in their diapers.
I doubt any of you could make a cogent argument as to why including this great work is a damning act.
More proof at: 73, 74, 75. Yes, those are important issues Commuter. There, there little boo, boo someone noticed. University of Colorado is a bwig bwig school, there, there little one. That’s really one of the most important foundations of my argument that you idiots can’t defend your reason for hating Khalidi, lol.
If there’s one person who certainly doesn’t know anything about him, its this doosh. And his three sock puppets.
Now and then. That was hilarious. Live by the mob, die by the mob.
The root of “Palestinian” is the same as “Philistine” – the ones with Goliath in their army, cruelly murdered by the young shepherd David. Today, to call one a philistine is to say that he is an uncivilized boor, lacking culture, unfit for polite company. Some things never change.
Porkov. Believe it or not I appreciate your honesty. I just wish all of you pant-crapping POS’s would be as honest in person. But we all know why you’re not, you cowards.
Um David…“Bay Area not maverick enough to read Palin book“:
Its always good for a laugh watching you fools fall over each other trying to prove which is the most illiterate! Not only is this article based on an article about the Bay Area, the article focuses on an Oakland bookstore, Pendragon Books, you fool! Granted, I can understand why you’re confused, since not only would you have to be able to read, you would have to decipher the semi-literate rantings of the idiot who wrote this piece.
You win, David, you little scamp, you win! You don’t have to try so hard, you are even dumber and more fixated on petty minutia than commuter. That’s literally like finding a unicorn.
Moho:
“The man is a professor and highly respected author with impecable academic credentials.”
“I look forward to making you look stupid”
Rule of life # 538
Beware of Accolades, they are used to give cover for BS.
The man is a professor
highly respected author
impecable academic credentials.
BTW, in English “impeccable” is spelled with two “C” not one.
A fine article. I don’t know though which is more entertaining… I the sick twisted way the left views a biography…. or the mojo getting slammed for being such a fool over and over again…. I hope PJM is paying this guy…. he is a lunatic which keeps readers coming back again and again… just read his idiotic dribble.
You toss that term around, you skeevy little a@@h$$$. “Bigot.” Do you even know what it means? I’ll bet not. I’ll bet your 11th grade education has left huge gaps in your comprehension.
Moho has stated that’s it’s (sic) purpose is to “prove how stupid” we are. Let’s just call it a winner and move on. I’ve never, not once, suggested that anyone be blocked. But this skeevy little a@@h@@@@ deserves it. Despite the plaintive cries of “CENSORSHIP” that will no doubt follow.
You win Moho! You skeevy little a@@h#$## you! Your 11th grade education has trumped us all! I am awed at the brilliance required to demonstrate how stupid we all are. WOW!
Frank J. asked you what you do for a living. You never answered. My bet is you never will. So what is it? What can a skeevy little a$#h#$# with an 11th grade education do? Convenience store clerk? No. You post too much for that. You have access to a computer. I know. Level 1 tech support. Providing screening services for your professional betters. Not that there would be anything wrong with that. It’s a honest job. Too bad, with an 11th grade education, that you’ll never amount to more.
“The man is a professor and highly respected author with impecable academic credentials.”
“BTW, in English “impeccable” is spelled with two “C” not one.”
Yet, Moho sayz @#74 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/handy-tips-for-president-obama-on-behavior-in-foreign-countries/#comments
“At least use spell check in a word document, then cut and paste.”
LOL. Oh my. What a clown.
So much vitriol against San Francisco. The city drives conservatives crazy. It makes their heads explode. the reason is obvious. They fear San Francisco. They are terrified of San Francisco. They are afraid of San Francisco.
Just the mention of Sarah Palin and Moho goes off the deep end calling everybody names. very impressive.
Back to the article- Back in the middle of the dot.com boom when the economy was going through the roof and jobs were plentiful, at my university’s campus center, there was always a booth promoting this little bookstore called “Revolution Books’. The women was a total 60′s retread, and she hated everyone who was successful. I always got a kick out of talking to her. My guess is that Moho would have been smitten by her.
“You’re welcome to try to prove your point, I look forward to making you look stupid. Come on, then, you little pigs.”
Moho Stupedo.
Please… any al Queda terrorists reading… hit San Fran next and do us all a favor.
Dschoen–I doubt any of you could make a cogent argument as to why including this great work is a damning act.
Again, 83.
By the way, Dschoen I’ve said it before, I don’t give a crap about spelling for the most part. Its the only thing you hillbillies have any chance of scoring on. So you’re saying I made a spelling error. Good lord man, what a withering critique!
By the way Brian, your post reminds me of the Smegel/Golem scene in LOTR. “Yes, precious, we showed him good”. Pathetic bull, by idiots who know they have no chance in an argument based on logic.
Book banning. Book burning. It’s enough to make even Tony Bennett leave San Francisco for good. Normally,
I’m not one to shout Nazi, but in this case maybe I’ll make an exception. Interesting, too, that a high percentage
of book banners in the city by the bay are Nazi cows. Women. Who fall to their knees in front of visions
of Obama faster than a twenty dollar hooker from Jersey City.
What’s their next step? Hanging Sarah Palin dolls in effigy from city hall? San Franciscans must either be
very embarrassed or very warped, something to the left of Saul Alinsky. A form of self loathing low lives that
potentially could bring back the word, retards. Even in the midst of the politically correct.
In my humble opinion, refusing to sell the Palin book is politics at its most perverted. Or could it simply be a manifestation of of
Sarahphobia in its final stages.
Heavens to betsy, the last thing one needs is to read the writings of a conservative point of view. Ideas are powerful things.
They could infect Democrats basking in the intellectual cesspool of the vile hatred of an opposing point of view.
San Franciscans, what books do you read? “Sexual Harassment, Letterman style”? Democrat Eliot Spitzer’s, “Finding Romance over 40″?
Barack Obama’s, “Sharing the Communist Wealth?”
You book burners and banners must be proud of yourselves. Just like Joseph Goebbels took pride in his ability to create a scapegoat and ban
6 million Jews from growing old.
83. Dschoen:
“BTW, in English “impeccable” is spelled with two “C” not one.”
You really want to go down that road? Cool. Here we go:
“Beware of Accolades, they are used to give cover for BS.”
#1 You should not capitalize accolades.
#2 You joined two independent clauses with a comma, an error commonly called a comma splice. It should be a semicolon. or you can break it into two sentences, or you can add a conjunction and keep the comma.
“BTW, in English “impeccable” is spelled with two “C” not one.”
#1 The word impeccable should not be in quotes, unless you’re suggesting it is being applied in a way outside its common usage.
#2 Your letter C should not be capitalized either.
#3 But it should be plural.
#4 There is no need to refer to the English language, since the writer and the readers and the large linguistic community and the word itself are all a part of the English language.
And finally, using “BTW” and “BS” only contribute to the degradation of language. It’s kind of like how conservatism degrades the human condition.
Class dismissed, Danke Schoen.
77. Khiri:
Right wing scat alert – Right on Cue.
So very predictable. So very revealing. So very stinky.
91. retard peepers:
What have you ever done to contribute to society?
Rachel: Normally,I’m not one to shout Nazi but in this totally un-Nazi esque case of one book store not carrying a book in a metropolitan area of 8 million people, I’ll make an exception! LOL. Yes, once the other five thousand book stores in the bay area start banning this one book, the apocalypse will begin, Hitler will burst forth from the bowels of the earth riding a Reagan-faced pack mule, and Mussolini’s face will magically appear on a Brazil nut in Muskogee. Really, if I were Palin, I’d make sure that people like you stay away from a tour bus.
– to Pajamas Media, which marked its anniversary this week, and its founder, Roger Simon, for giving us this forum to express ourselves freely in these Comments section of all its contributors.
So the point of this article is what? That the books they list SHOULD be banned/ignored/not sold? That they are a better judge of what the demand in that store than the owners?
Look, I don’t care who buys Sarah’s “book.” But last I checked, this was still America, and shop owners are free to stock and sell what they choose. It’s not like we’re talking about a vote to ban the book or a town that is outlawing it.
Personally, I don’t think it’s that big of a deal. The book only sold 300,000 copies the first day. For a book that was supposedly soooooooo anticipated, that’s pretty pathetic. Compare that to how many moms took their daughters out of school today so they could see a midnight showing of New Moon last night (another American “treasure”) and you realize exactly how insignificant Palin is.
Rashid Khalidi is the Edward Said Professor of Arab Studies at Columbia University. He once served as Director of the Palestinian press agency, Wikalat al-Anba al-Filastinija. In the 1980s he so strongly identified,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Blah blah blah.
Dude, if this guy is so good, why are you pumping him up with Accolades?
If you have to use Accolades to support your point, your point is, err ahh, pointless.
The more Accolades cited, the weaker the argument. It’s directly proportional.
Example: U.S. Presidential IQ hoax
“The Lovenstein Institute”
Oh my an Institute! Accolade
“The Lovenstein Institute of Scranton Pennsylvania think tank”
Oh my it’s a “Think Tank” Real smart folks! Accolade
“high caliber historians” Real smart folks! Accolade
“psychiatrists”, Real smart folks! Accolade
“sociologists” Real smart folks! Accolade
“scientists in human behavior, and” Real smart folks! Accolade
“psychologists” Real smart folks! Accolade
Among their ranks are Dr. Werner R. Lovenstein, world-renowned sociologist
“world-renowned” oh my! Accolade
and Professor Patricia F. Dilliams, a world-respected psychiatrist.
“world-respected” oh my! Accolade
This study was commissioned on February 13, 2001 and released on July 9, 2001 to subscribing member universities and organizations within the education community.
There is no “Lovenstein Institute”.
No “Dr. Werner R. Lovenstein” world-renowned or anything else.
Same for Patricia F. Dilliams.
This hoax is still fooling lib’s as late as Oct. 18 2009 at democraticunderground . com
I’m sorry for all of the abusive posts. Moho has taken his Zoloft now, so he should be OK in about a half hour. Once again, sorry folks!
Moho
“By the way, Dschoen I’ve said it before, I don’t give a crap about spelling for the most part.”
Then perhaps you should refrain from saying things like
“I look forward to making you look stupid”
With misspelled words! LOL!
Seriously, are you an idiot?
Dshoen:
Mispelling a word is not a sign of low intelligence, my friend, I hate to break it to you. Normally, one doesn’t have to tell people this. I make you look stupid by pointing out your inability to reason. And I’ve done that to you twice now. Served.
Heather- The point is the hypocarcy of the “liberals”. They do not allow for varying opinions. They say the reason they don’t carry the book is that their customers are “Thinking people”, and then the article lists some competely pathetic books that they do carry for those “thinking people”. Does that help explain it better for you. The article is actually pretty easy to read, try again.
300,000 copies in one day!!! What a terrible showing. If Obama would have sold that many books in one day, you would have been raving. By the way, how many books did Nancy Pelosi sell? And she is the all important “Speaker of the House”, third in line for the presidency. Sarah Palin is just a country bumkin. 300,000 copies? How pathetic.
Awesome. San Francisco book salesman doesn’t stock book because it won’t sell well in area; offers snarky explanation to local newspaper. Conservatives latch onto story and set about “proving” how dumb San Francisco book buyers actually are, and in the process missing not only that the real reason the book isn’t being stocked is because it won’t sell but also that the clever bookseller was throwing red meat to the prevailing local-dope opinion by telling them how smart they are for disliking Palin, thus ingratiating himself to any local liberals who happen to read that article.
Free advertising, geniuses. You just got trolled by a San Francisco bookseller who was trying to drum up some free advertising. He doesn’t even realize he did it and here you are freaking out. Good job, braintrust.
So, cutting through the excuses and pseudo “intellectual” veneer of this bookstore’s employee, essentially Going Rogue is a… banned book? Could that be?
San Francisco book salesman doesn’t stock book because it won’t sell well in area;
Seph:
What part of Oakland did you not understand, hillbilly bob? Did you idiots even read the article in the first place? Though I have to say, it is understandable why people of diminished cognitive function would find this confusing. The geniuses who wrote this have San Francisco in the headline even though the article is almost completely focused on a book store in Oakland. The blind leading the blind.
More proof at: 73, 74, 75.
The only thing this is proof of is that somehow, you’ve managed to able to count to 75.
Any member of congress who votes for ObamaCare is voting to take away our freedom of choice; our right to private or company provided medical coverage. Fact is, eventually this 2000 plus page obaminable monstrosity will morph into a public option single payer bureaucratically bungled, corrupt mess.
Or, trolls, look at it another way.
How can the government run healthcare, a sixth of our economy, when they can’t run something as simple as the department of motor vehicles, one, one thousandth of our economy.
Not only that, any member of congress who votes for this front loaded 700 million dollar working class tax jack, masquerading
as a health care bill, is no better than a terrorist with fifty pounds of TNT strapped to their waist, wasting their life by
blowing up innocent people.
Let’s face it, Democrat, Obama tail-sniffing-lemmings amount to being political domestic terrorists, trying to squeeze every ounce of freedom, free choice and liberty out of this nation.
Trolls, you’re not just wasting your poor, pathetic, pitiable overweight, sub-human lives, but, in voting for Obama, you wasted your vote. And now conservatives are trying clean up your mess; trying to prevent the Obama cesspool of socialistic, dumb-as-a-doornail decisions from seeping into every part of America, while you stupidly support shredding the constitution with every idiotic idea that floats into Obama’s ear flapping brain.
Trolls, like Obama, are witless, shiftless, Marxist miscreants. On PJM you sissified, scum suckers are just taking up space. If you had any brains, or the slightest sense of moral, ethical purpose, you’d walk into your little closet, put a 45 to your head and threaten to kill yourself if you don’t shape up and fly right. Just because you’ve lived your lives as slackers and sickos up to now doesn’t mean you can’t turn your lives around. Trolls, the sad sorrowful slob you see when you look into the mirror can change and once again become a member of polite society. You can start by writing a letter to Sarah Palin, saying you reject Sarahphobes as much as you despise the most rueful, disgraceful, pitiful President in United States history. Barack Obama.
Trolls, I spent ten minutes trying to set you on the straight and narrow. Don’t disappoint me because I truly believe even the most useless trolls that spew their idiotic thought streams on PJM can be saved. There’s good in even you trolls. Don’t say you can’t change for the better.
Yes you can.
“It’s kind of like how conservatism degrades the human condition.”
You can see how liberals have elevated the human condition by simply living in one of their quaint little ghettos (like Bezerkely or Oakland).
If you want to live in a place where you have to have three deadbolts on your front door, where urine-soaked, homeless bums are permitted to camp out on the sidewalks in front of your home, where dope dealers are free to ply their trade in front of the schools, then by all means, move to some lefty cesspool, like Bezerkely or S.F., and you can enjoy all the wonders that the lefty idea of an elevated human condition brings, up close and personal.
For myself, I’d just as soon live out in the uncivilized boonies, where I’m free of the blessings of leftoid civilization.
“They won’t carry Palin, but they will sell these.”
And, that list doesn’t even include titles from Pendragon’s extensive comic book stockpile…they keep those around for their deep thinking readers who need books with lots of pictures, and not too much text (i.e. college professors, college kids, welfare recpients, etc.).
#91 Rachel: You forgot one book that SFer’s read: John Edwards’ “My Personal War with The Enquirer.” I like the Sarahphobia term, too; the left claims she’s dumb (Moho claims WFB would “have laughed his a** off at Palin”) and yet they are obsessed with her every move, her every statement, her every word.
#108 Dave: It’s not just Bezerkely, Oakland & SF that lefties have turned into cesspools – just look at every major city in the country run by liberal Dems: Detroit, Miami, Philadelphia: they’re all cesspools. Their schools are failing, yet they refuse to provide kids an escape with vouchers. The ghettos are crumbling & gang-infested, blights turned into combat zones. If you have half a brain and live in a city controlled by liberal Dems, it’s only a matter of time before they destroy it. You’d better use the half brain you have and get the h*** out.
#91 Rachel: You forgot one book SFer’s are reading: John Edwards’ “My Personal War with The Enquirer.” I like the term Saraphobia, too. The left continues to harp on how dumb they think she is (the devoid of any sign of intelligence Moho claims WFB “would have laughed his a** off at her”) and yet they hang on her every move, her every statement, her every word. AP dispatches 11 reporters to fact check her book? How hilarious is that? And Obama’s (or more accurately, Bill Ayers’) books get a pass.
#108 Dave: It’s not just Bezerkely, Oakland & SF lefties have turned into cesspools. Every major city in the country run by liberal Democrats is a cesspool: Detroit, Miami, Philadelphia. Some might include Chicago. Their schools are miserable failures, and yet they refuse to provide kids with the only escape hatch possible: vouchers. The ghettos are blighted war zones, with little or no chance of improvement.
Moho, I don’t give a flip if you cannot spell. (I live and die by spell checker.) But your mindless bluster at the start of this thread is typical nonsense from a bully wannabe.
You are an apologist for an apologist of PLO terror. You are sadly morally lost….again.
Every major city in the country run by liberal Democrats is a cesspool: Detroit, Miami, Philadelphia. Some might include Chicago. Their schools are miserable failures, and yet they refuse to provide kids with the only escape hatch possible: vouchers. The ghettos are blighted war zones, with little or no chance of improvement.
This isn’t a bug, this is a feature as the empverished and ignorant vote democrat and their kids will be unable to compete with the kids of those liberal democrats.
Come on MOHO inform us tell us when has there EVER been a Country or State called PALESTINE answer NEVER and if it does NOT and NEVER has existed you cannot be a refugee from it and it cannot be OCCUPIED or INVADED. You cant and you know it PALESTINE is a Mohammedan FICTION made up to give Mohammedans the excuse to kill Jews and to fool gullible, uniformed, idiotic, Islamophile PC MC moonbats.
It’s San Francisco, and CA in general. Not many smart or thinking people take them seriously any more. It’s like an alternate universe.
Moho, you do your cause a disservice. We already consider liberals to be arrogant, clumsy bores with a tad too much self regard. Get a life and stop being such an amazing caricature. Trolls to the left please.
San Francisco is a tough town. Its beauty is deceiving. The whole place is made out of survivors and resilient people. Average Americans could not live there for more than a vacation.
We all know Palin’s story and background, the book does not explain anything, so why waste your money? Besides the media and the jokesters will talk about it for months.
When the nation needs an enema now we know where to stick it. And we wouldn’t hear many complaints either.
“Our customers are thinking people,” said Nathan Embretson, a bookseller at Pendragon Books in Oakland. “They’re not into reading drivel.”
Yipes, what a collection of drivel-ey, agenda driven books Nathan carries in his store.
I love it when the self-anointed, radically chic élite exposes its own underbelly.
And apparently isn’t even aware of it.
One of America’s greatest and most beautiful cities, San Francisco, has been despoiled and reduced by the assortment of clowns it has attracted.
I used to live across the bay in Oakland which had its interesting points and preserved “ethnic” neighborhoods. But (despite being Van Jones’ home turf
) it would be hard to get past Gertrude Stein’s observation on Oakland…
“There is no there there.”
We can’t allow Lady Politicians, protected by an omnipresent force field of children, to lie and manipulate and deploy their sexuality, as Ms. Palin does, only to cry “sexism!” when this inevitably colours their media coverage.
The press is being rough with her. It’s a Taming of the Shrew moment.
Shrew is my favourite Shakespeare play. It’s a quintessential feminist work: “My tongue will tell the anger of my heart, or else my heart concealing it will break, and rather than it shall, I will be free,” Kate says, centuries before, yet light-years beyond, Ibsen.
We’re now at the moment when Petruchio, who is being hit by Kate (hitting people is one of the appalling and unethical behaviours she indulges in), tells her, essentially, “If you hit me, I’ll hit you back.”
Now, now. There’s intellectual rigor and then there’s really intellectual rigor.
Now, now. There’s intellectual rigor and then there’s really intellectual rigor.
Right you are, Skip. But let’s all remember that “intellectuals” are exempt from having to apply intellectual rigor to what they say or do.
Moho:
Hilarious. The man is a professor and highly respected author with impecable academic credentials.
Hilarious, indeed — nothing like stumbling right out of the gate to make oneself look like an *ss.
If you’re going to try to make people look “stupid”, you should at least try spelling impeccable correctly. I’m sure the “impeccably” credentialed Dr. Khalidi can.
DIS-missed…furious
The absolutely funniest thing about this comments section is that the article isn’t about San Francisco at all. San Francisco is a city with about a million people. The San Francisco Bay Area is a region with about eight million people. The book store referenced here is in Oakland, a city actually geographically separate from San Francisco by a body of water. What this article proves is that you people can’t read but that the resulting ignorance doesn’t stop you from creating an entire fantastical world with the fragments of meaning you do manage to absorb. Thus, much of the Republican movement explained.
MOHO Please try to say something intelligent without any name calling, it only makes you look small. When you attack others and call them mean spirited hurtful names it really is an indication that you are filled with pain, and striking out with your anguish will only make it worse.
117. vivo:
San Francisco is a tough town.
No it’s not, Vivo. I lived there for 15 years. It’s Disneyland with cold, wet weather most of the year. The only thing tough about the place are the rents and mortgages. If one is a bum or an “activist” with no visible means of support one can live off grants, handouts and public sector employment in rent-protected security.
It is an achingly beautiful city, though. And its immigrant communities are as hardworking, decent and friendly people as I’ve ever met. Too bad the rest of the City is populated by elitist, parochial boobs and aggrieved subcultures.
Moho:
What’s absolutely funnier is that your math skills are weaker than your spelling.
SF City and County have a population of 800,000. You’re only high, by, oh, 25%? Check my math, hmmm?
Furious,
If you’re going to try to make people look “stupid”, you should at least try spelling impeccable correctly. I’m sure the “impeccably” credentialed Dr. Khalidi can.
Indeed, hilarious. Anyone can make a spelling error, but not everyone can reason. And you are perfect proof of it. Only an idiot would think that they could use a spelling error–AND ONE SPELLING ERROR–to measure someone’s intelligence. Indeed, I said I’d make you look stupid, but I didn’t know you’d be so eager to oblige.
I used to live across the bay in Oakland which had its interesting points and preserved “ethnic” neighborhoods.
This article is about Oakland,
If you want to live in a place where you have to have three deadbolts on your front door, where urine-soaked, homeless bums are permitted to camp out on the sidewalks in front of your home…
The bay area’s assortment of cultural élitists and yuppies really goes ballistic when, for example, something happens like a member of the exalted “homeless” does something like defecate in their own front yards.
They go ballistic. The de rigueur “compassion” takes an immediate header.
Such rampant hypocrisy and two-facedness spans the entire spectrum of the Left.
The truth is that the caring & concern were never real to begin with, just an aspect of the ideological shtick they are required to subscribe to in the name of being among “the enlightened above it all”, like some purveyors of books in OAKLAND.
I really wanted to reprint this:
Awesome. San Francisco book salesman doesn’t stock book because it won’t sell well in area; offers snarky explanation to local newspaper. Conservatives latch onto story and set about “proving” how dumb San Francisco book buyers actually are, and in the process missing not only that the real reason the book isn’t being stocked is because it won’t sell but also that the clever bookseller was throwing red meat to the prevailing local-dope opinion by telling them how smart they are for disliking Palin, thus ingratiating himself to any local liberals who happen to read that article.
Free advertising, geniuses. You just got trolled by a San Francisco bookseller who was trying to drum up some free advertising. He doesn’t even realize he did it and here you are freaking out. Good job, braintrust.
“Our customers are thinking people,” said Nathan Embretson, a bookseller at !!!!Pendragon Books in Oakland!!!!. “They’re not into reading drivel.”
Got it, Nathan.
Here’s a selection of some of the non-drively, thinky-type books Mr. Embretson carries at his store, per the Pendragon Books website:
This really is amazing, its like a Stupidity Competition. “But yer a good speler, and that’s all that’s importint for lookin smart!”
Come on MOHO inform us tell us when has there EVER been a Country or State called PALESTINE answer NEVER and if it does NOT and NEVER has existed you cannot be a refugee from it and it cannot be OCCUPIED or INVADED.
Unfortunately, several thousand documents demonstrate the existence of Palestine, including many at the US State Department:
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2009/nov/131982.htm
Ian Kelly, US State Dept. Spokesman:….Special Envoy Mitchell is in London today, and he met with Israeli negotiators from the negotiating – from the Israeli negotiating team. And Deputy Secretary Steinberg has been in Jerusalem. He went to the Saban Forum, a conference, and on the margins of that he also had meetings with Israeli and Palestinian officials.
You’d better contact that guy quick before he makes a fool of himself! Idiot.
The private bay area bookstores, are the Hemorrhoids of the San Francisco Landscape. They have the same respect and popularity amoung ‘normal’ Americans as does Nancy Pelosi.
“The absolutely funniest thing about this comments section is that the article isn’t about San Francisco at all”
Not at all, eh? Not even a little bit? Nothing about San Francisco?
“There are no copies of the book at Cover to Cover Booksellers in Noe Valley”
“At Borders bookstore in San Francisco Centre”
“Sheryl Cotleur, the head buyer for Book Passage, which operates stores in Corte Madera and San Francisco”
There is more than one bookstore mentioned in the article. Did you read beyond the fourth paragraph? The absolutely funniest thing about your previous comment is that it is complete fiction. No, wait, the absolutely funniest thing about your previous comment is that you think it is clever. Thus, much of Moho explained.
“This article is about Oakland”
Once again, you skeevy little a##h###, this article is about bookstores. There are several mentioned, more than one is in San Fran. Only one is in Oakland. What was it you said?
“What this article proves is that you can’t read but that the resulting ignorance doesn’t stop you from creating an entire fantastical world with the fragments of meaning you do manage to absorb.”
Anonymous 136:
There are several mentioned, more than one is in San Fran.
No, this article is about one book store. You are illiterate.
MOHO; There you go again with the name calling, you poor lonely emotionally deprived child. It is obvious you need and cry out for attention, but the only attention will be ridicule because of your constant childish insistence on calling names. Grow up, stop reliving the past hurts of not having the love from your mother that you so desperately still crave.
Those quotes above? They are from the article. Seriously, they are. I’m not kidding. And illiterate? Methinks that word does not mean what you think it means.
but the only attention will be ridicule because of your constant childish insistence on calling names.
Do you want a hanky, or do you plan on weeping a bit more?
Mo (as opposed to less) Ho</b)
I was making a general observation, reading the comments on San Francisco.
Too hard for your brain to assimilate, I guess.
Your puerile & tedious points diminish the Leftoid cause you endorse.
Anonymous. They’re from the Chron article, not from this article. You seem to have comprehension problems. This article is about one book store in Oakland, the other article is about other bookstores. Are you saying these two articles are identical? Or that they even have the same theme?
Taanstafl: You’re right. You were making a useless general observation, on a ridiculous discourse based on a misreading of this article. What’s your point?
101. Moho.
“Mispelling a word is not a sign of low intelligence, my friend, I hate to break it to you.” Misspelling? Yeah, so what.
Is being Moho (uppercase) a sign of intelligence? Only a sign. Virgo?
Have you tried looking at reality directly, non-funhouse mirror aided? What are you protecting yourself from?
Hey, since you know where Oakland is, say hi to Van Jones for me. How are your brothers in the military doing? And of course, have you repelled any gun carrying muggers with your “courage and intelligence” lately?
What about the community service you do, for the community, you know? Is this it? –
“I make you look stupid by…”
Since you believe you have this “Stupid Power”, could you be inadvertently cause those around you to become more stupid? Do you work in the White House? Do you have full control of your Alleged Stupid Rays?
“And I’ve done that to you twice now.”
Such power! Accomplishment! Nobel Peace Prize! Here! Here! Me, me me! I exist!
Wouldn’t you have a more full life if you just went out and helped someone change a flat tire and then gave up a smile? Twice served? Like, spread the wealth around?
Furious, you should change your name to hilarious, you clown.
“about a million” and 800,000. Yeah, that’s a crazy error, Keep trying though. I suggest you find something that makes you look a little less desperate.
San Francisco is a tough town. Its beauty is deceiving. The whole place is made out of survivors and resilient people. Average Americans could not live there for more than a vacation.
Great place to have sex with “attractive strangers”, too! If you like a short life, of course….
Moho the troll is mainly whining because someone insulted a South Syrian “intellectual” (good thing I have a cold – I’d have to hold my nose otherwise to avoid the fecal stink of those words while typing them). Feeding trolls make them expand like a pile of dough with too much yeast.
Who cares about South Syrian “intellectuals” who push lies and taqqiya? Other wannabe “intellectuals” who can’t tell a lie from truth.
Mr Lucky:
“I make you look stupid by…”
simply letting you respond, lol. Please don’t stop.
Great place to have sex with “attractive strangers”, too! If you like a short life, of course…
Californians invented condoms so that we could have sex safely with strangers and even people that we know. I’ll send you some, so that your Appalachian scientists can reverse-engineer them.
“Indeed, hilarious. Anyone can make a spelling error, but not everyone can reason. And you are perfect proof of it. Only an idiot would think that they could use a spelling error–AND ONE SPELLING ERROR–to measure someone’s intelligence. Indeed, I said I’d make you look stupid, but I didn’t know you’d be so eager to oblige.”
Actually, it is an indication of intelligence. Intelligent people don’t choose fancy words that they don’t know how to spell, simply to playact at being erudite-they instead choose words which they know and are capable of spelling properly.
BTW, nice web tantrum about people pointing out that you aren’t as bright of a lightbulb as you like to think you are, you should go blog it on your myspace page.
Class dismissed, Danke Schoen.
Dankeschön is one word. However I do give you credit for getting the German to English spelling correct, or did you just copy it from Wayne Newton?
Now can you pronounce it?
“There is more than one bookstore mentioned in the article. Did you read beyond the fourth paragraph?”
No, I doubt he did. He read one line in an article the other day and commented probably 5 times before someone had to point out to him that the article was satire.
To moho, UC Boulder is a ‘tiny Colorado university’. Why? Because it was convenient to assume so (Colorado – must be ‘tiny’), and he is too lazy to confirm information and too stupid to understand why it’s necessary if you want to be taken seriously. To moho, TAP is a conservative source of information. Why? Because it was convenient to assume so (it has ‘American’ in the site’s title – must be conservative), and he is too stupid and too challenged to figure out how to confirm the assumption by reading to the bottom of the page he cited. To moho, UC Boulder must be a tier 4 school. Why? Because it was convenient to assume so (Colorado again), and he is too stupid and finds it too difficult to figure out how to confirm his assumption by calling up a few more pages in a listing on a site he cited.
Back to this article.
The article starts by immediately referring the reader to a link. The author’s intent is that the reader pull up the link in order to get the context and background needed to understand the points the author will be making. Most readers did. Moho didn’t. One bookstore mentioned in the cited article is from Oakland. The article contributor used that particular bookstore to illustrate the vapidity of the owner.
To moho, this means the article is all about this bookstore, rather than using this bookstore to illustrate the nonsense in the article cited. Why? I think the common theme is the answer. Moho is just stuck on stupid.
Well, I checked Pendragon’s website myself. Other books available at this “moonbat” bookstore:
The Conscience of a Conservative, by Barry Goldwater
Miles Gone By: A Literary Autobiography, by William F. Buckley
The Conservative Mind: From Burke to Eliot, by Russell Kirk
Witness, by Whittaker Chambers
The Reagan Diaries, by Ronald Reagan
Capitalism and Freedom, by Milton Friedman
Human Action, by Ludwig von Mises
The Road to Serfdom, by Friedrich von Hayek
Radical Son: A Generational Odyssey, by David Horowitz
God forbid most of the posters here should check things out for yourselves, instead of just diving for the pretty red meat when it’s tossed your way.
Defenders of Islam unite under your new unanointed leader and defender of the faith: MOHO!
Moho will save you from the wrath to come in which all of the followers of the false prophet will be cast into the lake that burns with fire.
Round them up moho, leave none behind.
The Senators and Speaker from San Francisco pretty much run the country.
I have a surprise in store for San Francisco
Dschoen:
Class dismissed, Danke Schoen.
Dankeschön is one word.
no it’s not
151. Fred Mecklenburg:
Fred, the authors contention is that it’s this particular book that the booksellers are pre-determining that thinking people would consider drivel. The other books you listed only reinforce the case the author is making.
What can one expect from a state full of Liberal Freaks?
In his post, # 56, the tiresome troll, Moho: suggests, “LOL, I would like anyone who calls me a Mohammedan.
Mohammedan, it is, then dear Moho.
And in case the impact of my calling you that escapes you and as you’re quite obviously into using third parties (“palestinian” Islamanazis as one example of this — and the sail-eared simpleton pretender to what these days passes as a “presidency,” for another) to lend heft to the otherwise pretty darned pathetic projections of the fascissocialist psychopathology, let me borrow from the words of that great anglo-American, Winston Leonard Spencer Jerome-churchill, to lend some weight to my calling you so — and because of the timelessness of his condemnation:
“How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedanism lays on its votaries!
Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy. The effects are apparent in many countries. Improvident habits, slovenly systems of agriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of property exist wherever the followers of the “prophet” rule or live. A degraded sensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the next of its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan “law” every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property (either as a child, a wife, or a concubine) must delay the final extinction of slavery until the (ideology) of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men. Individual Moslems may show splendid qualities. Thousands become the brave and loyal soldiers of the Queen; all know how to die; but the influence of the (death-cult) paralyzes the social development of those who follow it. No stronger retrograde force exists in the world. Far from being moribund, Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith. It has already spread throughout Central Africa, raising fearless warriors at every step; and were it not that Christianity is sheltered in the strong arms of science (the science against which it had vainly struggled) … (what is left of the United States of America-vanguarded and guarded) civilization of modern Europe might fall, as fell the civilization of ancient Rome.”
– W L S Jerome-Churchill – 1899
Brian Richard Allen
Lost Angels – Califobambicated 90028
And The Very Far Away
148:Actually, it is an indication of intelligence. Intelligent people don’t choose fancy words that they don’t know how to spell,
Of course they do you idiot. Knowing a word and its usage is not synonymous nor dependent on knowing how to spell it. You really don’t know how stupid you appear saying such things; that’s fine by me. Please continue.
Commuter:
The author’s intent is that the reader pull up the link in order to get the context and background needed to understand the points the author will be making.
LOL. The author’s intent seems rather obvious here; talking about one book store mentioned in another article. In fact, nothing can be inferred from this article about the other, for there is no information in this article about any other bookstore but Pendragon. Anyone willing to extend this critique of one bookstore to the others with no reason or factual basis to do, simply because they believe the author intended them to, is simply too stupid to describe.
“LOL, I would like anyone who calls me a Mohammedan. ”
Brian: semi-literate and proud.
OMG! I can hardly wait to get my hands on a copy of this book. I totally LOVE Sarah Palin, and this is why:
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/2008/09/22/080922sh_shouts_saunders
OMG! I can hardly wait to get my hands on a copy of this book. Maybe ten or twenty. I am TOTALLY in LOVE with Sarah Palin and this is why:
http://www.newyorker.com/humor/2008/09/22/080922sh_shouts_saunders
Fred, the authors contention is that it’s this particular book that the booksellers are pre-determining that thinking people would consider drivel.
Stupid again, Commuter. There’s only one bookstore being discussed here. As you have no idea what books the other bookstores mentioned in the other article carry, its impossible for a reasoning person to make any inference about the others, based on this. The bookstore has all kinds of books, apparently, as Fred noted, just not any from Sarah Palin. And again, it would be impossible for a reasoning person to make any kind of inference about anything based on this article; hence your appreciation of it.
Inner Paths to Outer Space: Journeys to Alien Worlds Through Psychedelics and Other Spiritual Technologies (Paperback)
Above mentioned book kinda says it all!! Good list for the “intelligent” people of San Francisco.
163:
So, when Barack Obama says he will put some lipstick on my pig, I am, like, Are you calling me a pig? If so, thanks! Pigs are the most non-Élite of all barnyard animals.
This should be the motto of teabaggers everywhere, it perfectly represents the primary mode of thinking that these idiots use on almost every issue.
A person not stuck on stupid would have read the cite in the first line of the PJM article.
A person not stuck on stupid would have easily understand the clear prose in the cited article and realized that the people being quoted, people associated with several bookstores, were relating a common theme.
A person not stuck on stupid would have easily understand that the fact that the PJM author chose one of the bookstores, representative of the vapidity the cited article revealed about the people associated with Bay Area bookstores, to do a little research on does not make that bookstore the subject at hand.
A person not stuck on stupid would not rack up one uninformed, buffoonish assertion after another and thereby continually reinforce the impression that he is incapable of defending even his own strawmen.
A person not stuck on stupid would understand that losing every argument with others over the actual subject in article after article in PJM, while claiming that because he actually won every argument with himself over the strawmen he himself put up he has then proven his intellectual superiority…only reinforces the derision in which he is held.
A person not stuck on stupid would have easily understand all these things.
moho…does not.
representative of the vapidity the cited article revealed about the people associated with Bay Area bookstores, to do a little research on does not make that bookstore the subject at hand.
Again, there’s nothing here to suggest that, you’ve fantasized it. Its easy enough for anyone to see themselves, there’s really only like five sentences here written by the author.
MOHO: Name calling is the crutch of the intellectual weakling.
WHY are all you people feeding the troll????
Because when trolls are detained by us here, they aren’t elsewhere on PJM (that is, where they haven’t already been banned).
David Steinburg, you are a tool. Because your research is garbage you failed to realize that the books you claim are carried in Pendragon are books they can SPECIAL ORDER, as it clearly states in the top right hand corner of each page. You can even special order *gasp* Sarah Palin’s book http://www.pegasusbookstore.com/book/9780061939891
Typical, unresearched, unintelligent, Fox News style republican reporting.
Well, I was inspired by this quote:
169. Bill Perron:
MOHO: Name calling is the crutch of the intellectual weakling.
So I decided to peruse this thread. Guess what I found?
11. Pedrosito:
Is this pajamas way of saying Rick Moran is an ass?
15. gus3:
Why are there so many flakes in San Francisco? Because it’s illegal to push them the rest of the way into the Pacific.
24. “progressivewatch”:
As for troll names,what about Moho ho?
25. Commuter:
Folks, you have a decision to make here. You can allow this tool, moho, to continue …
37. Anonymous:
Very classy, you skeevy little a@#h@@@ . . . My gawd, but you are stupid and lazy . . . you, as a skeevy little a@#h@@@: . . . LOL. You are so stupid! . . . How many Nobel winners were there at the high school you dropped out of? None you say?
40. baal:
Moho is allowed to post here despite all of her ad hominem attacks because she makes liberals look stupid arrogant and childish . . . She weighs 400 lbs. Its not surprising that she hates all of the things that she does because of the constant rejection she has gotten in life. . . . She hates beauty, she hates vitality, she hates masculinity and femininity. Thats why she is a perfect paid troll for moveon.org
43. Toker53:
your barber is very likely an intellectual midget like you
50. Commuter:
The j**ka$$
53. Marc Malone:
Dear Lord, but these people are dumb!
62. Tex Expatriate:
You continue showing your perfect ignorance . . . You’re so dumb
69. Frank:
you hypocrite.
75. Cut and paste is what true elites do:
a tool like Moho
77. Khiri:
shiit-slinging by them . . . Like little bratty children, if you ignore them, they get tired, go back to their cribs, suck their thumbs and poop in their diapers.
84. Brian:
he is a lunatic which keeps readers coming back again and again… just read his idiotic dribble.
85. Anonymous:
You skeevy little a@@h#$## you! Your 11th grade education has trumped us all! . . . What can a skeevy little a$#h#$# with an 11th grade education do?
88. TriGeek:
Just the mention of Sarah Palin and Moho goes off the deep end calling everybody names. very impressive.
91. rachel:
a high percentage of book banners in the city by the bay are Nazi cows . . . Just like Joseph Goebbels took pride in his ability to create a scapegoat and ban 6 million Jews from growing old.
99. moho’s_anus:
Moho has taken his Zoloft now, so he should be OK in about a half hour!
107. rachel:
Let’s face it, Democrat, Obama tail-sniffing-lemmings amount to being political domestic terrorists . .. wasting your poor, pathetic, pitiable overweight, sub-human lives . . . Trolls, like Obama, are witless, shiftless, Marxist miscreants . . . sissified, scum suckers . . . If you had any brains, or the slightest sense of moral, ethical purpose, you’d walk into your little closet, put a 45 to your head . . . you’ve lived your lives as slackers and sickos . . . sad sorrowful slobs
112. DaveT:
You are an apologist for an apologist of PLO terror. You are sadly morally lost….again.
136. Anonymous:
Once again, you skeevy little a##h###
145. Ruvy:
Moho the troll is mainly whining because someone insulted a South Syrian “intellectual” (good thing I have a cold – I’d have to hold my nose otherwise to avoid the fecal stink of those words while typing them).
150. Commuter:
Mohos is just stuck on stupid.
157. Will:
What can one expect from a state full of Liberal Freaks?
But I saved the best for last. First on more entreaty by the paragon of virtue:
126. Bill Perron:
MOHO Please try to say something intelligent without any name calling, it only makes you look small. When you attack others and call them mean spirited hurtful names it really is an indication that you are filled with pain, and striking out with your anguish will only make it worse.
And the coupe de grass . . .
138. Bill Perron:
MOHO; There you go again with the name calling, you poor lonely emotionally deprived child.
You people are a real piece of work. You make Orly Taitz look civilized. And you wonder why the 85% of Americans who think and live normally dismiss you as clowns. Well, now you know.
Hail Rush. Go Sarah.
Bill Perron:
Name calling is the crutch of the intellectual weakling.
It makes sense you’re doing it then. Add to that cowardly in your case; because you lack the sack to come out and say it without passive aggressive pearl clutching.
Marty is absolutely right, I will not allow myself to comment again on any of the trash the troll uses just to feed his empty needful ego and get attention by being a lout.
Bill Peron: How shocking, don’t you know that
Name calling is the crutch of the intellectual weakling.
127. furious:
“117. vivo:
San Francisco is a tough town.
No it’s not, Vivo. I lived there for 15 years.”
I meant SF is a tough town for right-wingers and naive people. Lots of exclusive groups and cliques. Polite chums but some very snobbish, including foreign-born citizens and gays. It IS a Disneyland though. Drunks and derelicts? Just like any other big city.
175 Bill Peron . . .
You warrant the comment I made on another thread here . . . “the Cats and Jammers kids always retreat into the ether when faced with the harsh truth they’ve so blindly denied.”
(Didn’t like being being the poster child in that list of unsavories, eh? I suggest you call Orley. I hear she knows how to make the owies feel better.)
Bill uses his real name and website, unlike others.
The bookstore near me in S.F. carries the book. I will buy tomorrow, then read while waiting in the line for a pancake breakfast at Sears Fine Foods.
Please Dear Lord I never taks any of this crap — nor myself — not even Now and Then! too darned seriously.
B A – L A – CA — and The Very Far Away
I’d vote for Moho’s barber over Obama, Reid or Pelosi.
The barber at least has a real job.
NOW AND THEN: I know about “owies” I served in Viet Nam. I am a second degree black belt in Kung Fu San Soo. I prefer to use my real name unlike some others, at my web site you can find my phone number if you wish to further discuss “owies” or anything else, same goes for MOHO !!!
They’ll keep Sarah’s book in their closets, just like a lot of other things they don’t want their friends and neighbors to know about.
I wonder what the actual book sales are to the San Fran. area?
If Sarah Palin was a gay porn star; Frisco’s book sales would be tops in the nation.
Bill is a clown. Literally.
Bill Perron
“I prefer to use my real name unlike some others, at my web site you can find my phone number if you wish to further discuss “owies” or anything else, same goes for MOHO !!!”
It actually looks like you’re using your real name to promote your clown business. That’s very heroic.
If Sarah Palin was a gay porn star, she’d have exactly the same qualifications to run for President as she currently does.
182. Bill Perron:
Still hurts, eh? Yeah, I know.
And don’t think I don’t appreciate the threat. I do. I really do. It’s very . . . conservative of you. You did well . . . “I’m a vet “. . . . “I’m a dangerous person (with or without a gub)” . . . but you forgot the third leg of the conservative stool (right wing scat alert!), you forgot to mention your IQ. I’ll let it pass this time, but you may want to seek advice from Chuck Pelto or any one of the countless others here who obsess (and inflate) their intellectual oomph.
But for now, don’t let your real and/or imagined machismo go to waste. Perhaps you could mount a brigade of like-minded agitators to go out and beat back the tidal wave of union thugs that threaten to co-opt the thuggery of the right wing extremists. That would make for some dandy TV.
As for you website, yes, it is quite the digital experience. I especially like the photo of you and Sarah Claus. It appears to be from the same photo shoot that produced the infamous pantyhose and running shorts image that so haunts the Christian onanists in this great country of ours.
Keep up the good work. FLAME ON!
Now and then:
I bow to greatness.
173. Now and Then.
“Well, I was inspired by this quote:
169. Bill Perron:
MOHO: Name calling is the crutch of the intellectual weakling.
So I decided to peruse this thread. Guess what I found?”
Interesting…
Do “inspired” handsome Mixed European – American Turkeys with a Touch of black feel remorse?
Do you play cornerback for a pro turkey team? You know like when you get burned for a TD and your coaches tell you forget about your past comments and concentrate on the next piece of corn?
And that cat box of chocolates? If you’re out, Moho has more. His chocolates are hand made.
You didn’t get the White House Turkey gig?
Happy Thanksgiving! I Hope you’re on the “right” end of the fork. Change sometimes is not a good thing.
And dreaming of Sarah again? Would you say mmm, mmm, mmm? Dream on.
Mr. Lucky:
So I decided to peruse this thread. Guess what I found?
I read your half-crazed unintelligible screed and I’m still guessing. I would suggest you found what everyone around you must already be aware of; that you have some kind of aphasic degenerative disorder.
Obama kow tow bow
190. Mr Lucky:
I suggest you hook up with baal, formerly billslayer, always Layer of Bill . . . he and you share a propensity for derivative thought and boundless repetition – the playground of conservative media. I hear there’s an internship open on The Glenn Beck Show. But act fast, Rachel Peepers has threatened to lead a movement. My guess is that she’s moving toward Glenn Beck’s opening, know what I mean?
Hail Rush. Go Sarah.
189 moho:
Fun, isn’t it? I liken it to shooting bears in a cage. Kind of like this guy did.
http://www.topix.com/forum/who/montgomery-gentry/T9K7MC3PSL78KL83H
Maybe he should have tried it from a helicopter. Conservative machismo at its best.
Now and Then. Well, its of course obvious that any use of firearms against a defenseless mammal only makes the American more free.
E-mail Simon for the IP addresses.
I’m reading Sarah Palin’s book and did not expect to like it since I’ve read a few other political memoirs and typically found them a bit dull. However, I was so pleasantly surprised and delighted. How I wish I could recommend the book to my friends, but alas I live in Maryland.
Many startling qualities become evident about Governor Palin’s philosophy of living from reading this book, all of them notions that the lefties desperately need but typically eschew. For instance she believes that life has purpose. Naturally, “thinking people” don’t believe that!
Sarah Palin believes in God, believes that God has given her life purpose as he has given all life purpose and that her task is to diligently seek the role that God designed for her. This philosophy gives her understandable courage and clearly is something that political critics might easily misconstrue. It is not that she thinks “God wants her to be president” but that God has called her to action. Since it’s God’s call, she’s willing to let the results rest with Him — and in that belief is much freedom and space for living.
I was just Evelyn-Wood-ing this thread, cruising along at Warp Factor 3, enjoying the give-and-take, the back-and-forth, when all of a sudden I was brought up short by comment #90, by — you guessed it — moho: “By the way, Dschoen I’ve said it before, I don’t give a crap about spelling for the most part. Its the only thing you hillbillies have any chance of scoring on. So you’re saying I made a spelling error.”
Apparently, he doesn’t “give a crap” about punctuation or grammar, either. I counted three missing or inappropriately-placed commas, a missing apostrophe, and a dangling preposition. (Although that latter is no longer considered the venial grammatical sin that it once was; but I never got to vote on that, so I’m counting it.) On the other hand, I could not fail to notice that every word in his post — not just the words I excerpted — was spelled correctly; coincidence? And also, to his credit, he did manage to choose the correct variation of the eternal ‘your/you’re’ conundrum, something I would never have expected of him. (Then again, the odds of him getting it right were exactly fifty-fifty, so maybe he just got lucky.)
My point, moho, is that you should “give a crap about spelling”, if you expect your arguments to be taken seriously. Nothing speaks more tellingly about the intellectual rigor of one’s arguments, or the lack thereof, than careless spelling, punctuation, and, yes, grammar. The reason you’ve been getting your ass handed to you with the periodicity of a tolling bell in this thread is because you make it so easy — it is impossible for anyone to take you seriously, because you cannot be bothered to exercise even that modicum of craftsmanship (and, dare I say, pride?) in the formulation of your comments, that would indicate that you take yourself seriously. (The fact that your arguments themselves, and the evidence — such as it is — that you offer in support of them, are both ludicrously weak is another factor, and one that I have left to others to eviscerate; I am simply going to focus on the one thing that sent the English Major in me into paroxysms of high dudgeon.)
To claim as a point of (perverse?) pride that you “don’t give a crap” is not only lazy, but an out-and-out abdication. To say that you “don’t give a crap” that you come across as some kid who flunked 9th-grade English Composition, assuming that you have even gotten that far in school (and the fact that the evidence is so inconclusive on that point is precisely my point), is to say that you have neither any desire, any interest, nor any expectation, to be taken seriously. Very well, then; we shall accommodate you.
“Its [sic] the only thing you hillbillies have any chance of scoring on”: Well, if that’s going to be your basis for scoring this debate, then game, set and match to the hillbillies.
When Teddy Roosevelt wrote “The Critic” he had guys like MOHO and NOW AND THEN in mind. Still waiting for your call, what’s the matter, are you afraid ? Call me, I dare you.
Liberals are exactly like Fredo: “I’m smart!”
Sure you are Fredo. Whatever you say.
One of the major character flaws of sissies like Moho and NAT is this.
Even if their mothers’ lives were endangered by an invading army or a group of terrorists, I doubt they’d have
the courage to lift a finger to defend them. I think that they’d run in the other direction like rabbits to save their own skins.
Look, Bill Perron’s phone number is on his website. You trolls disagree with him vehemently, and he’s offered to talk
to you man to man. But neither of you ninnies apparently have the guts to left the receiver. I’ll bet your fingers would shake like a man
on a fuzzy tree if you tried to punch up Perron’s number.
Bottom line. Maybe it’s time to find out if you two have backbones of jelly. Real courage. Or cyber courage.
Come to think of it, maybe I have an alternative.
Mojo and Now and Then;
All you need is a few bucks in the bank to finance a little get together.
Maybe Perron, Now and Then,
Moho and I should meet up face to face. In real life. At a place mutually agreed upon. Weapons or no. I don’t care. Could be like the gun fight at the OK corral or just
a Karate smack down. I have no idea what would transpire. But forewarned is forearmed. Like Perron, I also was in the Army. For six years. Have fired everything from the six gun to the 30 cal machine gun.
Guys, maybe it’s time to put up or shut up.
Perron,
In case they call you, I vote for east Texas, the back country. Bill
201 Rachel Peepers:
Wow, two threats in one day. One each from messrs Perron and Peepers. I believe that is a direct transgression of guideline #4. “Threats are treated seriously and reported to law enforcement.” I wouldn’t worry about Simon reporting you to the authorities, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t aware. (What can I say, “the authorities” are friends of mine.)
Now I know you’ve made it your mission to be extra obnoxious. So far, so good. And I know that you’ve fired “everything from the six gun to the 30 cal machine gun.” Really? Because nobody I served with would ever called it “the six gun.” But no matter, the real question is, have you shot a bear in a cage? Until you’ve done that, well, I’m afraid your testes haven’t fully dropped.
But never let it be said that I don’t care about a brother in such obvious pain. And it is in that spirit of compassion that I make this suggestion: indulge yourself in some positive reinforcement. Go to your favorite place, do what you really like to do, whatever it is that makes you feel really good.
You know my favorite place in the world? The basketball courts at Luckie Park in Twentynine Palms. I go there every Saturday night at 6:30 for my weekly game. Just pop an Ativan and I’m ready to play. Keeps me from shaking like a man on a fuzzy tree, and from breaking out in my Elvis impersonation (something I do when I’m feeling particularly uninspired). Call it a ritual. You should try it sometime.
Hail Rush. Go Sarah.
Obama sinking in the polls. ObamaCare will be his parting shot at us…
Look, Bill Perron’s phone number is on his website. You trolls disagree with him vehemently, and he’s offered to talk
to you man to man.
How ridiculous. I could call him up and say the same thing and he’d be utterly unable to do anything about it. Trust that if no calls are made, its out of pity.
Rachel, I’m sorry that really requires two posts to actually measure the stupidity of the statement. Somehow, in your mind, an anonymous phone call to a stranger is an act of bravery. I actually began to pity you after that statement.
Listen, there’s only one test of bravery in this forum. That’s standing up and arguing for your ideas using logic, not favorite mythologies. I’ve never known you to do anything like that, you run from every fight I’ve ever faced you in, preferring to talk about your fantasies about my mother and other stupid useless insults. I say useless because they aren’t clever, funny or insightful. Simple school yard level whiny taunts. There’s nothing wrong with an insult when its done well–and some people raise it to an art form–but your bland and flaccid crap is an insult to the art of insulting itself.
In any case, my insults are separate from the measured arguments I pose here; in fact, I’m definitely one of the few people here who ever bother to use reason to argue their points rather than prejudice and bigotry and platitudes. Call me a coward all you like, it really is the dumbest thing I’ve watched you do. And that’s really saying something,
David Steinberg obviously took up basketweaving instead of hard physics while earning his communications degree.
Golly gee, you write in a brazen kind of Wes Cravinish tone. I like that. After reading your last post, I don’t doubt you lack the nerve to call up Parron so we can set this up.
I’ve already told him East Texas has the kind of land and laws where no one will bother us.
So call Perron, set something up and I’ll make it my business to be there. In the end, after the bluster, we’ll probably do nothing more
challenging than play scrabble. Which takes this out of the realm of threats or anything more violent than a game of basketball. It is simply a way for Perron and I to get to know what makes you guys tick so maybe we can find some common ground.
If you set things up with Parron, I’m available for most any date after the week of 30 Nov. I live on Snake Trail Road, in Charleston, Illinois, but unfortunately have to be in Jersey all this coming week to handle a few simple labor negotiations. I’m 64 years old and not in terrible shape so a couple a friendly games of basketball or some golf might really be fun. bill
PS. the only other person I plan to bring is my cousin Tony, a very respectful, affable prince of a guy.
197. Ann:
“It is not that she thinks “God wants her to be president” but that God has called her to action.”
She’s delusional. There is no God.
208 billy
As you know, I’ve made myself available. This is your chance, I suggest you take it. I’ll leave it to you to call up Eva and arrange your travel. As for your transparent attempt to cover for the threats made by messrs Perron and Peepers, you’re a little too late. They made ‘em. They live with ‘em. Now to your fear of traveling alone, by all means bring your caregiver Tony . . . if he’s out yet. I bet HE’S shot a bear in a cage, eh? In fact I think he plays bass for Montgomery Gentry, doesn’t he? Or is it the triangle? Is he the triangle player for Montgomery Gentry? I can’t wait to meet him. Sounds like a lot of fun. Until then, how about you give me your address there on Snake Trail Road and I’ll send you some of my MG CDs for him to sign. Any reason you won’t do that for a brother?
Hail Rush. Go Sarah.
MOHO: So take pity on me and call.
Bill Perron. You’re really breaking my heart here. Do you have any family that can help you through this time?
Bill, you’ve won against both.
Just ban the trolls.
213. John Becker:
“Bill, you’ve won against both.”
How so?
214. Terry:
“Just ban the trolls.”
How conservative of you. No First Amendment. No opposing views. Just a bunch of folks agreeing with each other about how great they are and how horrible everybody else is. How . . . bland.
–Why not just elect my barber?
Perhaps an excellent idea. Chesterton had some quite good things to say about barbers.
–But among the minor and milder aspects of the same principle,
I have no hesitation in placing the problem of the colloquial barber.
Before any modern man talks with authority about loving men, I insist
(I insist with violence) that he shall always be very much pleased
when his barber tries to talk to him. His barber is humanity:
let him love that. If he is not pleased at this, I will not accept any
substitute in the way of interest in the Congo or the future of Japan.
If a man cannot love his barber whom he has seen, how shall he love
the Japanese whom he has not seen?
–It is urged against the barber that he begins by talking about
the weather; so do all dukes and diplomatists, only that they talk about
it with ostentatious fatigue and indifference, whereas the barber talks
about it with an astonishing, nay incredible, freshness of interest.
It is objected to him that he tells people that they are going bald.
That is to say, his very virtues are cast up against him;
he is blamed because, being a specialist, he is a sincere specialist,
and because, being a tradesman, he is not entirely a slave…
From ‘Tremendous Trifles’
I would dare say that one would find more commen sense in the barber, whose job is real, than in the trappings of the community organizer, who jobs is a fiction.
The barber is a businessman, he must needs balance his budget. The community organizer need only appeal to government to take money from taxpayers when his budget is too small.
The barber is a worker whose work must be good. The community organizer appeals to his intents, and blames others for the failures.
The barber deals with people singly, for he cannot cut the hair of many people at a time. The community organizer deals with groups, and cuts them up as he deems appropriate.
The barber, then, is a real piece of humanity. The community organizer seems himself as above humanity, thus is far below it.
So, yes, let us put your barber in a position of power. Likely, he will feel unworthy of it, thus proving his quailifications.
NOW AND THEN: I really didn’t win, you just lost. You and the other negative magpie MOHO lost because you demonstrated your empty cowardice with your name calling and stupid postings, and by refusing my request to call me and talk man to man.
217 Bill Perron
I’ve made myself available. And I did call. No answer. No return to my message. You choose to ignore that. I think I know why. As for negativity, I refer you the post #173 – the case study in hypocrisy that started you down your road of cyber machismo. Blatant and indefensible.
And then this . . . “I will not allow myself to comment again on any of the trash the troll uses just to feed his empty needful ego and get attention by being a lout.”
And yet here you are. What exactly DO you stand for, Bill? I mean other than marketing your clown services on this blog.
Mr. Moho,
You and NAT sound like frightened schoolgirls. You guys can’t even summon the courage talk to Bill Perron on the phone
mouse to man. What are you afraid of? Your shadows?
I can picture you punk trolls sitting at your keyboards dripping in cold sweat, voices shaking, saying,
“Oh, no, somebody called my hand. I’m afraid I can’t talk my way out of this.”
We all can hear what’s going though your cowardly troll minds. Pathetic and feckless, a board creaks under your foot
as you make another trip to the bathroom. Like a scared cat, you jump three feet high.
You guys are pitiful. 6
219. michelle from ny:
Give me your number. I’ll call you too.
What a lying coward !!! You never called and you know damn well you never called. If you think any one here is going to believe you then you are really stupider than anyone here thought you were. Libs are lying cowards and here is actual proof of just how low they will stoop.
Bill wins.
My phone is on and answered 24 hours a day, if anyone calls it gets answered. Please stop with the lies, it really is sad that someone has to lie just to weasel out of being exposed as less than honorable in their words and actions.
Bill, you’ve won against both.
Yes billw, you cwetainly did win. Yes you did. Yes you did. Who’s a widdle winner. Bill, that’s who. Yes, you are. Yes, you are.
Really, dude, what is so manly about calling you? If I’m scared of anything its being your lifeline to the world; that I couldn’t handle.
You guys can’t even summon the courage talk to Bill Perron on the phone
Still laughing about this. Prank calls are some unheralded act of bravery now, I suppose. The saddest thing to me is that you people, with your diminished mental capacity, are allowed to vote.
221/223 Bill Perron:
Please try to say something intelligent without any name calling, it only makes you look small. When you attack others and call them mean spirited hurtful names it really is an indication that you are filled with pain, and striking out with your anguish will only make it worse. Name calling is the crutch of the intellectual weakling.
Pendragon Books…………They’re still in business?????
Ban the trolls.
214. Terry:
“Just ban the trolls.”
How conservative of you. No First Amendment. No opposing views. Just a bunch of folks agreeing with each other about how great they are and how horrible everybody else is. How . . . bland.
I’m not conservative, not religious, read the 1st Amendment (it has to do with Government censorship, not private blogs)
“Just a bunch of folks agreeing with each other about how great they are and how horrible everybody else is.”
Try the Huffington post, Dkos, etc. they ban any opposing view they feel fit.
Surprisingly I agree with you guys a lot of the time, just not your methods.
Now and Then, Moho:
I’d venture to say that summoning up the courage to call Bill Perron is just one of many adult activities you two sissies can’t do.
Like making enough money to move out of your parents’ basements.
Making enough to buy a car with less than 155 thousand miles on it.
Making enough to order off something other than the dollar menu at McDonald’s.
I also surmise, that, for you two range riders, decisions don’t come easy.
Like which porno movie to watch come Saturday night.
Like which union hat to wear to cover your bald spots.
Like the day on which to take your weekly showers.
Not that the two of you don’t aspire something better in life.
Like living in a double wide.
Like using newspapers for something other than bathroom hygiene.
Like having your names in the newspaper for something other than vagrancy.
Then comes the holidays.
Deep down you know someday your talents will take you farther than being the guy standing in front of WalMart ringing the holiday begging bell.
You know deep down you’ll someday make enough money to go to a place like Florida on vacation, diving into the warm clear water. Instead of your
usual post holiday dumpster diving.
And maybe someday you can be the guy with the family gathering around the fire to trim the Christmas tree. Rather than the guy sitting around the
fire you got going in a metal garbage barrel burping and spilling cheap wine.
Fact is, you miscreants really do remind me of social misfits the way you revel at hanging around like bums where you’re not wanted, making believe
you’re somehow above it all, saying feckless things and generally making nuisances of yourselves. Why do you do this? Because no decent liberal
website will put up with your ignorant observations and misunderstandings. You guys need an environment like was pictured in “one flew over the cuckoos nest to fit in..” Problem is, Kennedy and Johnson’s Great Society let so many mental space cadets out of custodial care and dropped them on polite society. And you two don’t have the slightest idea how to function.
At least, on the internet we don’t have to smell your odors. Mostly, we just observe your defective character, and pity your cowardness. Perron calls you out and you light-stepping social deviants spend all your time trying to think up flip answers and excuses for not calling him.
What Perron did was the equivalent of shining a light into your character. So we could observe you two like the phychologist B.F. Skinner observed the behavior of caged rats. But you, two, Moho and Now & Then, more resemble roaches who hurry back to their dirty dark places, just as fast as their legs can carry them.
What you two amount to are frightened, sad little creatures who somehow have learned how to type.
Nonsense.
Ban the karins.
And to 228 Terry . . . What methods are you referring to? (Sorry, I ended that sentence in a preposition . . . I expect to hear from Señor Simon any second. Serioulsy . . . oops, now I’m sure to . . . damn, did it again . . . sorry. So sorry.)
They don’t like being insulted when they call other people dirty mohammedans or imply that all muslims, gay people, democrats etcetera are baby killers, america haters, douche-users and/or secret illegal aliens. They are fighting for a bigotry free from bigoted reprisals. Hurray.
230. michelle from ny:
Quite the screed. It’s like you cherry picked an insult from every poster here and put them all together in one big uninspired list. Touché! Feckless . . . you like that word, eh? Can’t stop using it. A new discovery for you? (I believe it was a power word in Readers Digest, August, 2009.) Now, how about that number? I’d really like to give you a call. Maybe YOU will actually answer.
The great thing about the free market is that people will buy what they see value in.
700,000 so far in the first week.
Simple, plain truth is easily understood when spoken.
This is what has the moho’s pooping in the their panties.
NAT:
Screed. Great word. When are you scheduled to be in NY? I’m on the island. Maybe we can walk ten paces and have a duel with water pistols. Just a thought. Michelle
I do find great humor in your wit moho. You’re off with your base, but you are clever. Pretty ballsy too to take all the heat that comes with going against the flow.
But we never learn anything interacting with people who agree with us, do we?
Keep it coming!
dh
231. Now and Then.
“Ban the karins.
And to 228 Terry . . . What methods are you referring to? (Sorry, I ended that sentence in a preposition . . . I expect to hear from Señor Simon any second. Serioulsy . . . oops, now I’m sure to . . . damn, did it again . . . sorry. So sorry.)”
Are you sorry? Really now. What would your black ancestor say? You know, Anvil, who’s genes blessed you with ultimate cool.
Did the White House Turkey Interview go badly? Gibbs is just more of a turkey, but in consolation, the mohos bow to you, the Master Inspired Mixed European – American Turkey with a Touch of Black
232. moho.
“They don’t like being insulted when they call other people dirty mohammedans or imply that all muslims, gay people, democrats etcetera are baby killers, america haters, douche-users and/or secret illegal aliens. They are fighting for a bigotry free from bigoted reprisals. Hurray.”
Oh don’t be so dramatic mohos. Don’t most commenters here think of you as either a lightweight or something to be ignored? You’d think your skin was a thin as you know who’s – The mmm, mmm , mmm Guy. Remember?
Remember… How’s Van Jones doing? Don’t you have a personal relation with him? Disarm any muggers lately with your “Courage and Intelligence?
Then this mohos – read carefully! More Modern Liberal Drama!
226. Now and then.
221/223 Bill Perron:
“Please try to say something intelligent without any name calling, it only makes you look small. When you attack others and call them mean spirited hurtful names it really is an indication that you are filled with pain, and striking out with your anguish will only make it worse. Name calling is the crutch of the intellectual weakling.”
Has The Inspired Mixed European – American Turkey with a Touch of Black has decided to move beyond name calling?
Are you both agreeing to eliminate 30% of your vocabulary?
Now that is Change. Mmm, mmm, mmm. No way.
Dark Helmet. I’ll tell you one thing, I don’t mind Sarah Palin per say. I don’t really have an opinion about her, beside what’s obvious. She doesn’t seem all that bright, though she does have pretty good political instincts. She was in way over her head in the Summer of 2008, but that’s obviously not her fault, but more telling of how rudderless the Republican mainstream was during that time. This is a very interesting story about how Palin came to national prominence, and the plan, before McCain’s hailmary, for Sarah Palin that was dashed in 2008.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer
What really bothers me about this Palin-licking, is how absurd it is for Republian stalwarts looking for a savior. Republican administration of this country ran us into the rocks, but they still have the absurd hubris to act as if they’ve been some sublimated group of oppressed individuals, who only now have a chance of getting power. Please, if you want to win, then say so’; this save us Sarah bs is the worst. Its not Palin, its her supporters, looking past every hypocrisy or truth to make her seem like some sort of Saint. Its insulting to human intelligence.
Moho,
I am reminded of a great Monty Python classic, the Life of Brian. It was banned in La. It was years later that I figured out that it wasn’t that it made fun of Christ, it didn’t, it made fun of people who will believe anything just because they need something to believe in rather than think for themselves.
That might be a good part of what goes on in politics today.
Sara is popular, mostly because of being willing to say what needs to said. That… is the key to her rise. What you have to keep in mind, is that she started out as a mom who joined the PTA to make the school better for her kids.
Long, long long way from grooming from conception.
This is what people identify with. I think she would be the first to tell you, that’s all it is. I have the feeling she would rather be home, making cookies and playing with her Grandkids if there wasn’t such a vacume for basic, simple common sense in DC.
Give them hell moho….
dh
235. Chelle:
You sound lie a nice person after all.
Congrats, Bill.
I suppose it’s a little late for this, but:
3. Disagree, but avoid ad hominem attacks.
I guess it doesn’t say “ad hominem attacks are forbidden.”
Frankly, I don’t see the problem. Perhaps more accurately, I don’t see a problem. Not that I read the Chronicle story. From what I gather here, it doesn’t say you can’t special order it, and it doesn’t say the secondhand stores won’t resell it. The book is available. Not banned. And of course there is Amazon, if you want it delivered in a plain brown package so nobody knows, I mean, is there something shameful in reading this biography?
I cannot fathom how nobody sees the book store owners perspective here. They stock what they think their customers will buy. If I owned a grocery store in SF, I would stock tofurkey and organic vegetables and cage-free eggs over BGH milk and antibiotic chicken every day, and there would be no public outcry that I’m unfair to BGH milk. Nobody would stand up and complain and get a hundred “mee too” [sic] posts on some random blog.
I don’t need to explain the logic of the book store owner, it’s there if you’re willing to think about it. But I will: Most are local events and such (Weathermen), (Haight-Ashbury drug hangovers), and fringe-science conspiracy publications. If they had a Harvey Milk biography I would expect the stores to stock it in their always limited shelf space and not stock something else–like a Dick Boehner ( forgive the attempted spelling ) biography, or Reagan, or The Turner Diaries.
[ If I were in Nevada I'd have Palin, Reagan, and the Turner Diaries, and instead of 9/11 fringe conspiracy books--well, I'd probably have those, too. 9/11 conspiracy books seem to have no specific politics attached, provided they don't blame Bush, but I suppose most do. I don't know, I don't read them. But I'd have an Eric Rudolph and a few Ruby Ridge / Waco pubs. What does it mean? Nothing. It means I'm trying to sell books to the locals and I'm trying to stock what the locals (I stereotypically presume) want to buy.
Are there dissenters in the SF market? Sure. But if I ran a pharmacy in a 100% lesbian neighborhood, I wouldn't stock condoms on my shelves. ]
Although Reagan is probably local-interest enough to sell regardless of political bent in the locals. So there’s the real question on presumed bias: Not if they stock Sarah Palin’s book, but if they stock Reagan’s most-recent biography, whether hero-worship, bashing, or objective.
The group think so many posters lambast here as going without comment elsewhere (liberal group think) [ and why do you not make those comments on those boards (Salon) rather than here? I mean, why not challenge unspoken presumptions "out there" rather than gathering in some internet secret clubhouse? No offense, if pajamas is THE gathering place, I wouldn't know...], isn’t all that different from the “San Francisco is the center of hell / Gomorrah” majority opinion that seems to hold sway here, similarly unquestioned–or at least the majority opinion of “those likely to post”–the silent (perhaps more moderate / independent) majority is of course invisible.
What was it I overheard some religious people say about throwing no stones and glass houses? Or was that Billy Joel?
But maybe here’s a better question: Do we really want Red stores and Blue stores as well as Red states and Blue states and just how far do we need to go to split the country “fairly”–do we need a big line painted across the whole country or something? Put up signs “no liberals welcome” “NEOCONS need not apply.”
[And what do you propose to do with the independents that never seem to get any consideration? What color is left for independents? Green's taken. Orange makes you sound like an Irish 1960s radical, Purple is no good--either royal or "gay". Yellow is of course cowardly, and wasn't yellow journalism communist? Pink's no good. The musician would sue. Black is kind-of taken anyway, and it's really not a color, it's a tone, same with gray. Maybe it will have to be purple--a mix of red and blue.]