Comments on: Getting Illegal Immigrants to Self-Deport http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/ Thu, 16 Feb 2012 03:26:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: fencing http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-1781741 fencing Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:15:35 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-1781741 I have been browsing online more than three hours today, but I never found any fascinating article like yours. It's beautiful price sufficient for me. In my opinion, if all web owners and bloggers made good content as you probably did, the internet might be a lot more useful than ever before. I have been browsing online more than three hours today, but I never found any fascinating article like yours. It’s beautiful price sufficient for me. In my opinion, if all web owners and bloggers made good content as you probably did, the internet might be a lot more useful than ever before.

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]]> By: pat http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-323190 pat Fri, 03 Jul 2009 22:33:21 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-323190 Loved Aureliano:#9. Great retort! From personal experience: I have lived in San Diego 22 years. Illegal’s here work under the table. Don't pay any of the same taxes citizens pay. If they do receive a paycheck with deductions they stole the SS# and have committed fraud and identity thief. And if Mr. Navarrette has never had that happen to him, I wouldn't wish that on my worse enemy, how difficult that is to straighten out.(The sad secret about that, is that it is mostly fellow Hispanic’s that they completely screw.) Another fact Mr. Narravette never mentions. Out of wedlock birth rates are soaring within the Hispanic community, because young Hispanic girls have figured out not to get married to get welfare/wic etc. All the time their husbands are living with them and working under the table to. I know these people first hand. This is not hyperholy. The Law: All 3 cars in our household have dents from illegal’s that when we pulled over they didn't have drivers licenses much less insurance, so we are left having to pay the money for the minor repair which usually cost from $200-$300. DUI or traffic accidents, Illegal’s don't show up. I know I work in the courts. They are above the law by being outside of the law. I could go on and on. But, Mr. Narravette doesn't care about any of this. He doesn't care that my Mexican brother-in-law has to compete on bids with contractors that his entire crew is illegal whilst my brother-in-law has to pay all the taxes/fee's with having a legit business and employee's paying taxes out of their checks. Mr. Narravette has never run a business. Does he no the cost of Workmen’s Comp. My contractor that hires illegal’s, well his workers get hurt, well they just disappear and another body takes his place. My brother-in-law has one of his best workers leave a large size company because he got sick and tired of all the illegal’s. He found out that illegal’s without experience were making the same amount of money by the time all his taxes where taken out , and he had 15 years experience. The owner said “why should I give you a raise, when I can get these guys for the same price.“ And he is MEXICAN himself. He doesn’t want to work for any employer that hires illegal’s. Many Mexican Americans resent how illegal’s have decimated their wages in the construction trades. Mr. Narravette doesn't care about my best-friends son nearly killed in a traffic accident (the doctor said he is only alive because he is a strong young athletic,) by a guy with no insurance, driving a car not in his name and no picture ID, only to have this Vista gang banger (sporting all the Vista gang tattoos and attire) to disappear and never show up for court and the authorities say we don't think that was his name and a Sherriff Deputy telling the Mother " oh, he's probably sitting on a bar stool in TJ now having a margarita." Quote un Quote! Mr. Narravette doesn't want to acknowledge these FACTS! I use to be a bit Libertarian on immigration. But, no more not since I have lived through it. I do think that the INS should be more efficient and enlarged. I also would consider kids that where brought here as children and can show a high school diploma fast track citizenship with immediate green card status. Everyone else should have to leave the country and apply for a guest worker program, that if they compile with all the requirements of that program, they can apply for green card status in 3 years, then citizenship there after. I don’t have a problems with that. Sadly, the only thing people like Mr. Narravette would understand is if they have a tragedy happen to themselves or someone in their family at the hands of an illegal immigrant. Right now he can just sit back and pretend none of these lawless and terrible things are happening. And I haven’t even touched on the illegal’s in our prisons and all the ones that skip bail or just never show up to face there crimes like all citizens are required to do. Quite frankly, he can just sit back and imply everyone is racist and all illegal’s are just hard working people. I hate to burst your bubble Mr. Navarrette, but I have a life lesson for you. Mexicans are no different then anyone else. There are good hardworking Hispainic people, just like millions of Americans from all races/colors/creeds and there are illegal’s that lie, steal, cheat and don’t work so hard just like other people of all races/colors/creeds. That’s the reality of life. A truth that a liberal racist like Mr. Navarrette would never acknowledge. He is to greatly invested in victim hood. Signed PaT Loved Aureliano:#9. Great retort!
From personal experience:
I have lived in San Diego 22 years. Illegal’s here work under the table. Don’t pay any of the same taxes citizens pay. If they do receive a paycheck with deductions they stole the SS# and have committed fraud and identity thief. And if Mr. Navarrette has never had that happen to him, I wouldn’t wish that on my worse enemy, how difficult that is to straighten out.(The sad secret about that, is that it is mostly fellow Hispanic’s that they completely screw.)
Another fact Mr. Narravette never mentions. Out of wedlock birth rates are soaring within the Hispanic community, because young Hispanic girls have figured out not to get married to get welfare/wic etc. All the time their husbands are living with them and working under the table to. I know these people first hand. This is not hyperholy.
The Law: All 3 cars in our household have dents from illegal’s that when we pulled over they didn’t have drivers licenses much less insurance, so we are left having to pay the money for the minor repair which usually cost from $200-$300. DUI or traffic accidents, Illegal’s don’t show up. I know I work in the courts. They are above the law by being outside of the law. I could go on and on. But, Mr. Narravette doesn’t care about any of this.
He doesn’t care that my Mexican brother-in-law has to compete on bids with contractors that his entire crew is illegal whilst my brother-in-law has to pay all the taxes/fee’s with having a legit business and employee’s paying taxes out of their checks. Mr. Narravette has never run a business. Does he no the cost of Workmen’s Comp. My contractor that hires illegal’s, well his workers get hurt, well they just disappear and another body takes his place. My brother-in-law has one of his best workers leave a large size company because he got sick and tired of all the illegal’s. He found out that illegal’s without experience were making the same amount of money by the time all his taxes where taken out , and he had 15 years experience. The owner said “why should I give you a raise, when I can get these guys for the same price.“ And he is MEXICAN himself. He doesn’t want to work for any employer that hires illegal’s. Many Mexican Americans resent how illegal’s have decimated their wages in the construction trades.
Mr. Narravette doesn’t care about my best-friends son nearly killed in a traffic accident (the doctor said he is only alive because he is a strong young athletic,) by a guy with no insurance, driving a car not in his name and no picture ID, only to have this Vista gang banger (sporting all the Vista gang tattoos and attire) to disappear and never show up for court and the authorities say we don’t think that was his name and a Sherriff Deputy telling the Mother ” oh, he’s probably sitting on a bar stool in TJ now having a margarita.” Quote un Quote!
Mr. Narravette doesn’t want to acknowledge these FACTS!

I use to be a bit Libertarian on immigration. But, no more not since I have lived through it. I do think that the INS should be more efficient and enlarged. I also would consider kids that where brought here as children and can show a high school diploma fast track citizenship with immediate green card status. Everyone else should have to leave the country and apply for a guest worker program, that if they compile with all the requirements of that program, they can apply for green card status in 3 years, then citizenship there after. I don’t have a problems with that.

Sadly, the only thing people like Mr. Narravette would understand is if they have a tragedy happen to themselves or someone in their family at the hands of an illegal immigrant. Right now he can just sit back and pretend none of these lawless and terrible things are happening. And I haven’t even touched on the illegal’s in our prisons and all the ones that skip bail or just never show up to face there crimes like all citizens are required to do. Quite frankly, he can just sit back and imply everyone is racist and all illegal’s are just hard working people.

I hate to burst your bubble Mr. Navarrette, but I have a life lesson for you. Mexicans are no different then anyone else. There are good hardworking Hispainic people, just like millions of Americans from all races/colors/creeds and there are illegal’s that lie, steal, cheat and don’t work so hard just like other people of all races/colors/creeds. That’s the reality of life. A truth that a liberal racist like Mr. Navarrette would never acknowledge. He is to greatly invested in victim hood.
Signed
PaT

]]> By: GT http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-155247 GT Tue, 18 Nov 2008 19:42:06 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-155247 They are not gonna leave on their own. This was a very stupid thing to even propose. If you really think that the United States can't shut down borders at any point in time with the military force we have then you really don't know what you're talking about. We need the immigrants to work the jobs that people don't want and they're doing dishes in the back of a restaurant to keep costs low for producers while I go to college and am able to dine there whenever I feel like it. We need them, but letting too many in will make our country worse off eventually, but we are nowhere close to that. Immigrants, illegal or legal, make up a work force with better ethic than most Americans and they start business which create jobs. Deport the lazy ones and the ones that abuse the system to waste our tax dollars. They are not gonna leave on their own. This was a very stupid thing to even propose. If you really think that the United States can’t shut down borders at any point in time with the military force we have then you really don’t know what you’re talking about. We need the immigrants to work the jobs that people don’t want and they’re doing dishes in the back of a restaurant to keep costs low for producers while I go to college and am able to dine there whenever I feel like it. We need them, but letting too many in will make our country worse off eventually, but we are nowhere close to that. Immigrants, illegal or legal, make up a work force with better ethic than most Americans and they start business which create jobs.

Deport the lazy ones and the ones that abuse the system to waste our tax dollars.

]]> By: jvilla http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-125652 jvilla Wed, 15 Oct 2008 06:43:05 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-125652 they were given a chance to leave! now they cannot say they were not told that they will get deported and beleiveme they will not be given 3 months to get it together! this government is giving them food stamps, wic, free school, free school lunches, free medicaid, free welfare checks, free education for their illegal children,free immunizations, free hud housing, free childcare, most of all they get automatic citizenship. if they have an american child they qualify for fema benefits! when so many americans are without jobs the government is giving the all the benefits! they were given a chance to leave! now they cannot say they were not told that they will get deported and beleiveme they will not be given 3 months to get it together! this government is giving them food stamps, wic, free school, free school lunches, free medicaid, free welfare checks, free education for their illegal children,free immunizations, free hud housing, free childcare, most of all they get automatic citizenship. if they have an american child they qualify for fema benefits! when so many americans are without jobs the government is giving the all the benefits!

]]> By: levotb http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-94071 levotb Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:52:22 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-94071 Navarette is a Communist and a reconquista. He should be run out of Dodge on a rail. And, as with all Commies and reconquistas, he's a liar. There are 35-40 million illegals in the U.S., not his paltry 12 million! He calls Rep. Duncan Hunter, whose Border Fence Bill was signed by Bush, an idiot. Navarette is against everything American and for everything Mexican. He's what is known as "a fifth columnist". The only way to save the nation is to deport all illegals (no exceptions for "humanitarian reasons"), make E-Verify mandatory for ALL businesses and complete the double fence. Then man the Border with National Guard or returning Iraq troops. Navarette is a Communist and a reconquista. He should be run out of Dodge on a rail.

And, as with all Commies and reconquistas, he’s a liar. There are 35-40 million illegals in the U.S., not his paltry 12 million!

He calls Rep. Duncan Hunter, whose Border Fence Bill was signed by Bush, an idiot. Navarette is against everything American and for everything Mexican. He’s what is known as “a fifth columnist”.

The only way to save the nation is to deport all illegals (no exceptions for “humanitarian reasons”), make E-Verify mandatory for ALL businesses and complete the double fence. Then man the Border with National Guard or returning Iraq troops.

]]> By: arturo fernandez http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-88029 arturo fernandez Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:48:10 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-88029 deguello, The accusation was made that he's racist. I said there was no evidence for that in this post, and you came in to disagree with me. Well, I was asking for proof. If you want to now agree that this post shows no racism, and that anti-illegal-immigrant Ken Hahn has very strange views on "race" and "racism", that's fine. Some employers do exploit illegal immigrants because they have no respect for them as people, something they share with your side. Those who exploit illegal immigrants get their inspiration from the right wing that is constantly dehumanizing illegal immigrants, like Lou Dobbs and Michelle Malkin for example. Why respect them if they're "illegals", "criminals", "gangsters", "child molesters"...? But for the most part illegal immigrants are better off here, or they wouldn't be here. Most American employers who hire illegal immigrants are decent people and don't exploit them. deguello,

The accusation was made that he’s racist. I said there was no evidence for that in this post, and you came in to disagree with me. Well, I was asking for proof. If you want to now agree that this post shows no racism, and that anti-illegal-immigrant Ken Hahn has very strange views on “race” and “racism”, that’s fine.

Some employers do exploit illegal immigrants because they have no respect for them as people, something they share with your side. Those who exploit illegal immigrants get their inspiration from the right wing that is constantly dehumanizing illegal immigrants, like Lou Dobbs and Michelle Malkin for example. Why respect them if they’re “illegals”, “criminals”, “gangsters”, “child molesters”…?

But for the most part illegal immigrants are better off here, or they wouldn’t be here. Most American employers who hire illegal immigrants are decent people and don’t exploit them.

]]> By: deguello http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-87693 deguello Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:23:33 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-87693 First of all;I said he supports amnesty I assume that would be ageneralamnesty for all illegal aliens, not just mexicans.Second If you don't think that ilegal aliens aren't being exploited,then you probably also think that the media,isn't biased, that the earth is flat,and that Cuban health care is among the best inthe world.If you are illegal, you cannot enforce any kind of a contract,without risking deportation,the only reason employers will hire you is precisely,because they can exploit you ;not because they are compassionate believers in multiculturalism.Sweatshops and illegal immigration go together,like welfare dependency and the democratic party. First of all;I said he supports amnesty I assume that would be ageneralamnesty for all illegal aliens, not just mexicans.Second If you don’t think that ilegal aliens aren’t being exploited,then you probably also think that the media,isn’t biased, that the earth is flat,and that Cuban health care is among the best inthe world.If you are illegal, you cannot enforce any kind of a contract,without risking deportation,the only reason employers will hire you is precisely,because they can exploit you ;not because they are compassionate believers in multiculturalism.Sweatshops and illegal immigration go together,like welfare dependency and the democratic party.

]]> By: arturo fernandez http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-87295 arturo fernandez Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:42:02 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-87295 deguello, Please provide a quote or link where Reuben tells us he favors amnesty for certain races only. If illegal immigrants come voluntarily it means they're better off here, otherwise they wouldn't be here. If they enter into labor contracts with employers voluntarily, it means they're better off under those agreed terms than not. So I don't see where they're being exploited, if employers don't renege on the terms. It's important that we give them amnesty to keep employers more honest. I'm guessing you're using the "exploitation" card to hide your contempt for these people. deguello,

Please provide a quote or link where Reuben tells us he favors amnesty for certain races only.

If illegal immigrants come voluntarily it means they’re better off here, otherwise they wouldn’t be here. If they enter into labor contracts with employers voluntarily, it means they’re better off under those agreed terms than not. So I don’t see where they’re being exploited, if employers don’t renege on the terms. It’s important that we give them amnesty to keep employers more honest. I’m guessing you’re using the “exploitation” card to hide your contempt for these people.

]]> By: deguello http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-86856 deguello Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:51:10 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/getting-illegal-immigrants-to-self-deport/#comment-86856 Arturo: A quick glance at a few of Reuben's archived screeds will show that he is an poen borders,amnesty enthusiast,and a shill for plutocratic importation of cheap, exploitable immigrant labor. Arturo: A quick glance at a few of Reuben’s archived screeds will show that he is an poen borders,amnesty enthusiast,and a shill for plutocratic importation of cheap, exploitable immigrant labor.

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