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		<title>By: American Girl</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-conservatism-back-on-track/#comment-199443</link>
		<dc:creator>American Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 06:04:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hurry up and let Sen John McCain retire...then allow Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin speak for the GOP.

Romney is more intelligent and Palin is energizer!

McCain = yawn, snoring, boring, Goreist...terrible public speaker!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hurry up and let Sen John McCain retire&#8230;then allow Mitt Romney and Sarah Palin speak for the GOP.</p>
<p>Romney is more intelligent and Palin is energizer!</p>
<p>McCain = yawn, snoring, boring, Goreist&#8230;terrible public speaker!</p>
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		<title>By: David S</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-conservatism-back-on-track/#comment-197175</link>
		<dc:creator>David S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 08:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@52

What was it Bush said?  Oh, right...

&quot;Bring it on&quot;

Peace.

DS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@52</p>
<p>What was it Bush said?  Oh, right&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Bring it on&#8221;</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
<p>DS</p>
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		<title>By: Righteous Bubba</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-conservatism-back-on-track/#comment-196389</link>
		<dc:creator>Righteous Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 19:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Look at how energized we were after Palin was nominated and right after the convention. &lt;/i&gt;

Speaking as a crazy leftist for whom Democrats are watery Republicans, let me encourage you in your Palin worship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Look at how energized we were after Palin was nominated and right after the convention. </i></p>
<p>Speaking as a crazy leftist for whom Democrats are watery Republicans, let me encourage you in your Palin worship.</p>
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		<title>By: stuart Williamson</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-conservatism-back-on-track/#comment-196071</link>
		<dc:creator>stuart Williamson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 06:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read all this about the base, Reagan, Goldwater, McCain, the religious right, gay groups, country club elitism, and Rinos....and not one word about Palin.

Has everyone forgotten Sarah, and how she revitalized the Republican effort and why?  She didn&#039;t talk about Party Purity, she talked about our traditional values and about the big city pols who went to Washington and promoted their own interests instead of the voters.

The Republican Party has a marketing problem, and talking about what is in the party&#039;s interest is the wrong place to start.  All successful marketing programs are based on addressing what the target audience wants to hear, NOT on what you want to tell them.   Not just what they want, but also what they detest. The Dems won by focussing on the low opinion of Bush. Conservatives need to focus, not overtly but essentially,  on  Republican principles,  on getting rid of machine politicians, on the arrogance and greed of the liiberals, on restoring pride in American values by pointing up the incredible arrogance of European nations which wallowed in imperialism, petty monarchy, feeble coalition, slavery and class distinction for a century and a half after our Republic was founded and grew from the strong roots of a unique noble Constitution. We are supposed to supplicate to THEM?

It needs to attack the insidious precepts of &quot;moral equivalence&quot;  and the toleration of intolerance. Hispanics need to be asked if they really want to embrace the same style of politics that drove them to leave their latin-american countries.

This is what Americans WANT TO HEAR and the Dems can&#039;t deliver.

The GOP was, and should remain, the party of American principles and values.  That&#039;s what we have to sell: to hell with all the bickering over who is a true Republican and who should be excluded.  Palin proved its validity, the rest of us should follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read all this about the base, Reagan, Goldwater, McCain, the religious right, gay groups, country club elitism, and Rinos&#8230;.and not one word about Palin.</p>
<p>Has everyone forgotten Sarah, and how she revitalized the Republican effort and why?  She didn&#8217;t talk about Party Purity, she talked about our traditional values and about the big city pols who went to Washington and promoted their own interests instead of the voters.</p>
<p>The Republican Party has a marketing problem, and talking about what is in the party&#8217;s interest is the wrong place to start.  All successful marketing programs are based on addressing what the target audience wants to hear, NOT on what you want to tell them.   Not just what they want, but also what they detest. The Dems won by focussing on the low opinion of Bush. Conservatives need to focus, not overtly but essentially,  on  Republican principles,  on getting rid of machine politicians, on the arrogance and greed of the liiberals, on restoring pride in American values by pointing up the incredible arrogance of European nations which wallowed in imperialism, petty monarchy, feeble coalition, slavery and class distinction for a century and a half after our Republic was founded and grew from the strong roots of a unique noble Constitution. We are supposed to supplicate to THEM?</p>
<p>It needs to attack the insidious precepts of &#8220;moral equivalence&#8221;  and the toleration of intolerance. Hispanics need to be asked if they really want to embrace the same style of politics that drove them to leave their latin-american countries.</p>
<p>This is what Americans WANT TO HEAR and the Dems can&#8217;t deliver.</p>
<p>The GOP was, and should remain, the party of American principles and values.  That&#8217;s what we have to sell: to hell with all the bickering over who is a true Republican and who should be excluded.  Palin proved its validity, the rest of us should follow.</p>
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		<title>By: arhooley</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-conservatism-back-on-track/#comment-195751</link>
		<dc:creator>arhooley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 18:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>reality, delia --

I came into the tent on 9/11 and I&#039;m not leaving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>reality, delia &#8211;</p>
<p>I came into the tent on 9/11 and I&#8217;m not leaving.</p>
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		<title>By: David S</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-conservatism-back-on-track/#comment-195354</link>
		<dc:creator>David S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 02:45:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@45. TheRealityIs:
&lt;blockquote&gt;David, the reality is: you and your demographic are irrelevant.
...
Its people like you that ... will continue to destroy the GOP.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You can&#039;t have it both ways.  I&#039;m leaning toward &quot;destroy the GOP&quot;.

Peace.

DS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@45. TheRealityIs:</p>
<blockquote><p>David, the reality is: you and your demographic are irrelevant.<br />
&#8230;<br />
Its people like you that &#8230; will continue to destroy the GOP.</p></blockquote>
<p>You can&#8217;t have it both ways.  I&#8217;m leaning toward &#8220;destroy the GOP&#8221;.</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
<p>DS</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-conservatism-back-on-track/#comment-195319</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media should start reporting the truth.As for the GOP,it may take some time in the desert alright, but real Americans will come back when the failure of the left is realized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media should start reporting the truth.As for the GOP,it may take some time in the desert alright, but real Americans will come back when the failure of the left is realized.</p>
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		<title>By: Northern Light</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-conservatism-back-on-track/#comment-195227</link>
		<dc:creator>Northern Light</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of you people are talking about ideological purity with the same tone and fervor that the Chinese used during the Cultural Revolution. This is not a good idea.

The Republican Party has been shrinking, the solution is probably not trying to kick out party supporters.

If you spend too much time appealing to the base, you are going to lose more supporters who are not White Christians who did not attend college.

A good example of this is the Hispanic vote. Many Latin-Americans are very socially conservative yet they don&#039;t support the GOP. Why? I don&#039;t know, perhaps it&#039;s the Republican message that brown skinned &quot;foreigners&quot; who speak Spanish aren&#039;t really Americans. I have heard tirades over &quot;Press 1 for English&quot; that offended me and English is the only language I can speak.

In the last Presidential primaries the only Republican who attracted youth in any real number was Ron Paul. Yes, Ron Paul was even less electable than John McCain, but has anyone in the party given any thought to what Dr. Paul had that attracted non-Republicans while all the other candidates were repelling them?

Of course I am not a Republican so please feel free to call me names and go back to throwing out all the RINOs. Perhaps the GOP just needs a generation or two in the political wilderness to fix things up. Maybe a nice Biblical 40 years in the desert will lead the party to the promised land.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you people are talking about ideological purity with the same tone and fervor that the Chinese used during the Cultural Revolution. This is not a good idea.</p>
<p>The Republican Party has been shrinking, the solution is probably not trying to kick out party supporters.</p>
<p>If you spend too much time appealing to the base, you are going to lose more supporters who are not White Christians who did not attend college.</p>
<p>A good example of this is the Hispanic vote. Many Latin-Americans are very socially conservative yet they don&#8217;t support the GOP. Why? I don&#8217;t know, perhaps it&#8217;s the Republican message that brown skinned &#8220;foreigners&#8221; who speak Spanish aren&#8217;t really Americans. I have heard tirades over &#8220;Press 1 for English&#8221; that offended me and English is the only language I can speak.</p>
<p>In the last Presidential primaries the only Republican who attracted youth in any real number was Ron Paul. Yes, Ron Paul was even less electable than John McCain, but has anyone in the party given any thought to what Dr. Paul had that attracted non-Republicans while all the other candidates were repelling them?</p>
<p>Of course I am not a Republican so please feel free to call me names and go back to throwing out all the RINOs. Perhaps the GOP just needs a generation or two in the political wilderness to fix things up. Maybe a nice Biblical 40 years in the desert will lead the party to the promised land.</p>
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		<title>By: TheRealityIs</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/getting-conservatism-back-on-track/#comment-195044</link>
		<dc:creator>TheRealityIs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To SG:

The GOP is moribund in Colorado, I do not share your cheery assessment.  Until we grassroots remove the Denver Country Club set that keep giving us the same old mushy faux-conservative candidates, and fails to stock the bench (they didn&#039;t even run opposition candidates in a good 1/3 of races at the state level to build the bench!), the GOP will continue to dwindle away to nothing in Colorado.

In Colorado, this is especially painful, given the Denver Country Club set that appear to run the  party like a &quot;whose turn is it next&quot; club.  I worked on campaigns for Bob Berauprez when he was in the 7th CD here, and he was blindly and stupidly arrogant to run one of the worst campaigns ever for Gov, even after we in the staff complained and many of us wrote him letters asking him NOT to run and to stay in Congress.  Likewise our new Rep in the 6th, Mike Coffman, abandoned the last remaining state-wide office held by the GOP, when there were plenty of good and capable candidates in the 6th.  Selfish and stupid.


The &quot;its his turn next&quot; Owens acolytes pushed Beauprez (and probably Coffman) to run much like they jammed Pete Coors into the race that produced a win for Ken Salazar, ignoring the fact that he was abandoning the 7th (which he could have held), and the GOP had no &quot;bench&quot;.  Instead we got stuck with a weak-hand Owens crony Rick O&#039;Donnel, who was stomped by a liberal Ed Perlmutter, who has turned into a vapid anti-Iraq table-thumper who is far more liberal than his district (which includes Buckrly AFB and a ton of conservative defense/aerospace people and retired military).  And this past election, the GOP didn&#039;t even do anything more than a token opposition in Lerew.  What a joke!

Whats worse is the lack of any development effort for local and state-level candidates, and to protect them from the smears by the gays mafia up in Boulder, who run smear ads.  You shoudl have seen the crap they were throwing at Ryan Frazier in Aurora, a very promising lguy who was getting smeared badly.  State GOP and their cliquish friends didn&#039;t lift a hand to help.  Ryan Frazier now knows he can expect NOTHING from that bunch, and so doo those of us that campaign for him (FYI: look him up - he holds TS/SCI clearance works at Buckley AFB in Aerospace and Data, and is a good family man, solid guy - and happens to be black which is a bonus in Aurora).

He&#039;s the very kind of candidate we should be finding, developing and supporting.  But the state GOP is too blind and stupid.  

And finally, the dopes at the state GOP Country Club look down on us Sam&#039;s Club Repubs, and refuse to listen to us.  

Direct mail was started WAY late, and most of it was received well AFTER people voted.  We told them about it, but they wouldn&#039;t listen.

We did our Precinct walks a week prior to election day, and large number of people we contacted had already voted absentee/mail-in or early-vote.  Nobody wanted to hear it.

In the phone banks the week before and during the Rovian &quot;72 hour GOTV drive&quot; we found that the majority of people we contacted by phone had already voted - and they were angry with us calling them.  Even worse, many were contacted multiple times by the volunteers in the phone banks, because someone up the food chain STILL hasn&#039;t figured out how to run a simple database.

So no, I disagree, and it is because of what I&#039;ve seen.

The GOP in Colorado is broken, and none of the boobs at the top have a clue, and what&#039;s worse, they are not willing to LISTEN.

Country Club vs Sam&#039;s Club.  The GOP has lost the Sam&#039;s Club Repubs, and that is why they fail in CO and will continue to do so.

The GOP is dying in CO and deserves to do so as long as Waddams, Owens and his &quot;moderate&quot; blue-blood wannabees run the party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To SG:</p>
<p>The GOP is moribund in Colorado, I do not share your cheery assessment.  Until we grassroots remove the Denver Country Club set that keep giving us the same old mushy faux-conservative candidates, and fails to stock the bench (they didn&#8217;t even run opposition candidates in a good 1/3 of races at the state level to build the bench!), the GOP will continue to dwindle away to nothing in Colorado.</p>
<p>In Colorado, this is especially painful, given the Denver Country Club set that appear to run the  party like a &#8220;whose turn is it next&#8221; club.  I worked on campaigns for Bob Berauprez when he was in the 7th CD here, and he was blindly and stupidly arrogant to run one of the worst campaigns ever for Gov, even after we in the staff complained and many of us wrote him letters asking him NOT to run and to stay in Congress.  Likewise our new Rep in the 6th, Mike Coffman, abandoned the last remaining state-wide office held by the GOP, when there were plenty of good and capable candidates in the 6th.  Selfish and stupid.</p>
<p>The &#8220;its his turn next&#8221; Owens acolytes pushed Beauprez (and probably Coffman) to run much like they jammed Pete Coors into the race that produced a win for Ken Salazar, ignoring the fact that he was abandoning the 7th (which he could have held), and the GOP had no &#8220;bench&#8221;.  Instead we got stuck with a weak-hand Owens crony Rick O&#8217;Donnel, who was stomped by a liberal Ed Perlmutter, who has turned into a vapid anti-Iraq table-thumper who is far more liberal than his district (which includes Buckrly AFB and a ton of conservative defense/aerospace people and retired military).  And this past election, the GOP didn&#8217;t even do anything more than a token opposition in Lerew.  What a joke!</p>
<p>Whats worse is the lack of any development effort for local and state-level candidates, and to protect them from the smears by the gays mafia up in Boulder, who run smear ads.  You shoudl have seen the crap they were throwing at Ryan Frazier in Aurora, a very promising lguy who was getting smeared badly.  State GOP and their cliquish friends didn&#8217;t lift a hand to help.  Ryan Frazier now knows he can expect NOTHING from that bunch, and so doo those of us that campaign for him (FYI: look him up &#8211; he holds TS/SCI clearance works at Buckley AFB in Aerospace and Data, and is a good family man, solid guy &#8211; and happens to be black which is a bonus in Aurora).</p>
<p>He&#8217;s the very kind of candidate we should be finding, developing and supporting.  But the state GOP is too blind and stupid.  </p>
<p>And finally, the dopes at the state GOP Country Club look down on us Sam&#8217;s Club Repubs, and refuse to listen to us.  </p>
<p>Direct mail was started WAY late, and most of it was received well AFTER people voted.  We told them about it, but they wouldn&#8217;t listen.</p>
<p>We did our Precinct walks a week prior to election day, and large number of people we contacted had already voted absentee/mail-in or early-vote.  Nobody wanted to hear it.</p>
<p>In the phone banks the week before and during the Rovian &#8220;72 hour GOTV drive&#8221; we found that the majority of people we contacted by phone had already voted &#8211; and they were angry with us calling them.  Even worse, many were contacted multiple times by the volunteers in the phone banks, because someone up the food chain STILL hasn&#8217;t figured out how to run a simple database.</p>
<p>So no, I disagree, and it is because of what I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
<p>The GOP in Colorado is broken, and none of the boobs at the top have a clue, and what&#8217;s worse, they are not willing to LISTEN.</p>
<p>Country Club vs Sam&#8217;s Club.  The GOP has lost the Sam&#8217;s Club Repubs, and that is why they fail in CO and will continue to do so.</p>
<p>The GOP is dying in CO and deserves to do so as long as Waddams, Owens and his &#8220;moderate&#8221; blue-blood wannabees run the party.</p>
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		<title>By: TheRealityIs</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheRealityIs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, the reality is: you and your demographic are irrelevant.

Stop overstating your numbers: Pew Research has show that approximately 80% of the US populace considers itself Christian.  Agnostic+Atheist come in at less than 5%.  This has held across the decade.  So 60 million you cite is junk.

Facts are the basis for the nation, natural law, etc are religious, and the vast majority of people support that.

And like it or not, there is a solid atheist case made for abortion laws that restrict and outlaw this heinous evil practice.  Read Nat Hentoff&#039;s material for a start (A jewish Athiest, no less).

Go away while the adults talk and deal with reality, not your elitist &quot;I&#039;m better than you because I&#039;m an atheist&quot; delusional bunch.

You and those of your type have dragged &quot;freedom&quot; into the gutter, distorting it into mere license by severing responsibility and consequences from actions and policies, and barring believers and religion from the public discussion, especially when they wish to apply morality to public acts.

Its people like you that got us John McCain, and that got us the illiberal narcissist who now occupies the Whitehouse.  And its your sort of weak-handed abandonment of principles denial of faith that will continue to destroy the GOP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, the reality is: you and your demographic are irrelevant.</p>
<p>Stop overstating your numbers: Pew Research has show that approximately 80% of the US populace considers itself Christian.  Agnostic+Atheist come in at less than 5%.  This has held across the decade.  So 60 million you cite is junk.</p>
<p>Facts are the basis for the nation, natural law, etc are religious, and the vast majority of people support that.</p>
<p>And like it or not, there is a solid atheist case made for abortion laws that restrict and outlaw this heinous evil practice.  Read Nat Hentoff&#8217;s material for a start (A jewish Athiest, no less).</p>
<p>Go away while the adults talk and deal with reality, not your elitist &#8220;I&#8217;m better than you because I&#8217;m an atheist&#8221; delusional bunch.</p>
<p>You and those of your type have dragged &#8220;freedom&#8221; into the gutter, distorting it into mere license by severing responsibility and consequences from actions and policies, and barring believers and religion from the public discussion, especially when they wish to apply morality to public acts.</p>
<p>Its people like you that got us John McCain, and that got us the illiberal narcissist who now occupies the Whitehouse.  And its your sort of weak-handed abandonment of principles denial of faith that will continue to destroy the GOP.</p>
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