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		<title>By: Albert</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/germany-swings-to-the-center-right/#comment-410498</link>
		<dc:creator>Albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Germany&#039;s centre right politics would be considered communist in the US</description>
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		<title>By: Trouble</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/germany-swings-to-the-center-right/#comment-408456</link>
		<dc:creator>Trouble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It always amuses me when liberals think they can win middle-class votes with economic issues.  As Fraser Crane used to say, &quot;What color is the sky in your world?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It always amuses me when liberals think they can win middle-class votes with economic issues.  As Fraser Crane used to say, &#8220;What color is the sky in your world?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/germany-swings-to-the-center-right/#comment-408221</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:07:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Praetorian
&quot;In the end, food on the table is far more important than the two old women down the street who want to get married.&quot;

All one needs to do is compare California to Texas to see who is putting food on the table. Californias Dems have driven that once great state into the ground, I abandoned it 2 years ago as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Praetorian<br />
&#8220;In the end, food on the table is far more important than the two old women down the street who want to get married.&#8221;</p>
<p>All one needs to do is compare California to Texas to see who is putting food on the table. Californias Dems have driven that once great state into the ground, I abandoned it 2 years ago as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/germany-swings-to-the-center-right/#comment-408203</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We reproduce. You don’t.&quot;

You haven&#039;t visited and LDS families have you? :)

Once younger kids grow up and are forced into the modern day slavery known a taxation they tend to move to the right rather quickly. Taxation is little different than slavery, except its the IRS holding the whip, and it will peal the meat off you faster than a leather strap.

Praetorian incorrect links conservatism to the GOP. The reason for the GOP&#039;s recent failure is they moved to the left, and as a result conservatives abandoned them. Conservatives are still there in huge numbers, dont be a fool and link them with the GOP success or failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We reproduce. You don’t.&#8221;</p>
<p>You haven&#8217;t visited and LDS families have you? <img src='http://pjmedia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Once younger kids grow up and are forced into the modern day slavery known a taxation they tend to move to the right rather quickly. Taxation is little different than slavery, except its the IRS holding the whip, and it will peal the meat off you faster than a leather strap.</p>
<p>Praetorian incorrect links conservatism to the GOP. The reason for the GOP&#8217;s recent failure is they moved to the left, and as a result conservatives abandoned them. Conservatives are still there in huge numbers, dont be a fool and link them with the GOP success or failure.</p>
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		<title>By: donttreadonme</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/germany-swings-to-the-center-right/#comment-408073</link>
		<dc:creator>donttreadonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Praetorian,
Have you downloaded the song to your IPod yet?  I bet you have...and I bet it is song one in the cue...
MMMMMM...MMMMMM...MMMMMM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Praetorian,<br />
Have you downloaded the song to your IPod yet?  I bet you have&#8230;and I bet it is song one in the cue&#8230;<br />
MMMMMM&#8230;MMMMMM&#8230;MMMMMM</p>
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		<title>By: donttreadonme</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/germany-swings-to-the-center-right/#comment-408071</link>
		<dc:creator>donttreadonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Praetorian..
...So the other day I take a straw poll of my three kids, and it was three thumbs down on Obama..I ask my five year old to kindly elucidate (gotta use them three dollar words early, you see) and he says &quot;Obama is an idiot.&quot;  So there you have it, unless you&#039;ve got three of your own your precious Commie movement is definitely on the ropes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Praetorian..<br />
&#8230;So the other day I take a straw poll of my three kids, and it was three thumbs down on Obama..I ask my five year old to kindly elucidate (gotta use them three dollar words early, you see) and he says &#8220;Obama is an idiot.&#8221;  So there you have it, unless you&#8217;ve got three of your own your precious Commie movement is definitely on the ropes.</p>
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		<title>By: donttreadonme</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/germany-swings-to-the-center-right/#comment-408069</link>
		<dc:creator>donttreadonme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 05:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and cue up the &quot;Baghdad-Bob-level-reality-denying-fool&quot; in three...two...one..
Praetorian!!!1.44.45.46.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and cue up the &#8220;Baghdad-Bob-level-reality-denying-fool&#8221; in three&#8230;two&#8230;one..<br />
Praetorian!!!1.44.45.46.</p>
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		<title>By: misanthropicus</title>
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		<dc:creator>misanthropicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: #41/Praetorian: 

Buddy, the latest Rassmunsen poll shows Obama&#039;s Health thing nosediving at 41% favor vs. 56% oppose - so what you describe as a freeing light at the end of the tunnel are actually the two freighters, the 2010 and the 2012 elections hurtling towards the Democrat Party. 

And this proves, times and again that people have began to wake up - &quot;Honey, I don&#039;t buy snake oil anymore, Ok?&quot;

As far as your contortions on demographics, that&#039;s an act for a freak show - Praetorian, all stats in the world talk about how industrial/post-industrial nations are GREYING, i.e. the percentage older/younger grows on the side of the older.
Also, Praetorian, maybe it&#039;s news for you, but when people get older they tend to travel to conservative positions - this meaning, Praetorian, that the larger society as a whole is irreversibly trending CONSERVATIVE, fool.  

Then, &quot;Those trends, as they have throughout history, go up and down. Problems arise and problems are solved.&quot; 
Thanks god, Praetorian is here with the good news!
Fool, there isn&#039;t such a thing like &quot;kind of pregnant&quot;, social and other problems are seldom resolved (and never by the political left), they&#039;re just POSTPONED OR MANAGED, &#039;till wars and brutal interraction settles the score for a while - then the carousel starts again - 

Now your idiocy regarding the young people&#039;s voting - I&#039;ll limit myself at evoking today&#039;s %50 unemployment amongst post-teens &amp; youth, fact for which both LEFT &amp; RIGHT SQUARELY &amp; RIGHTFULLY CREDITS OBAMA&#039;S PORKULUS FOR, and now I&#039;ll give you the chance to make a fool of yourself (time and again) by showing us how mighty lefty those youth will vote (if they&#039;ll ever do it) in the next elections.

Then, &quot;I guess that’s the difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives are negative and see the worst in human nature. Liberals are optimistic and see the better side of human nature and the potential to overcome any hurdle.&quot;
Heavens, Praetorian, can&#039;t you come with just a simple, correct assessment? How&#039;s that? It&#039;s the left who want to control, direct and muzzle everything in society, it&#039;s the left who don&#039;t trust people and want them corralled - is this an optimistic view of the human nature? (And since here, and because you like to quote stats, the studies have also shown that conservatives are uniformly happier and optomistiker than liberals &amp; lefties, who are simply a collection of bitter, envious &amp; vindictive nags - and also studies have clearly shown that conservatives are much better at sex that liberals &amp; lefties, because they don&#039;t mix things, when it comes to sex, it&#039;s sex and not a lammenting session about global heating or the disparition of the pink-dotted whistling snails from Tobriand. (Since I am pretty sure that you&#039;ve been constantly dumped, you may want to study my hint and review your foreplay practices - no, Praetorian, neither Algore videos or deforestation poetry won&#039;t do it).    

And conversely, conservatives are the ones that have a positive view of human nature, they are largely laissez faire types. Enterprise, prospere, fail, then succeeed - great. BUT, liberal scum, die if this is your choice - but don&#039;t try to bill me for what you do, comprende? 

&quot;Anyway, this post was about Andrea Merkel and my original point was she is no conservative.&quot;
Angela, not Andrea - as positions are on the European political spectrum, Merkel is a CONSERVATIVE. And as a former slave of DDR, that superb realm of freedom and enlightenment, when she looks for some inspiring guiding lights, be sure that they are Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, and not your exalted constellation of Stalin, Guevara, Castro, Yagoda, Mumia Jabal, Bill Ayres and Barack Obama.

And to conclude this by examining another pearl of yours - man, why should the GOP waste its time &amp; money trying to add college buffoons like you in the movement? Isn&#039;t a great thing that the Democrats have to carry this discrediting cohort with them?

Hah! Nice ending, connecting Praetorian with the Democrat Party&#039;s discrediting cohorts - style, bab&#039;, style!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: #41/Praetorian: </p>
<p>Buddy, the latest Rassmunsen poll shows Obama&#8217;s Health thing nosediving at 41% favor vs. 56% oppose &#8211; so what you describe as a freeing light at the end of the tunnel are actually the two freighters, the 2010 and the 2012 elections hurtling towards the Democrat Party. </p>
<p>And this proves, times and again that people have began to wake up &#8211; &#8220;Honey, I don&#8217;t buy snake oil anymore, Ok?&#8221;</p>
<p>As far as your contortions on demographics, that&#8217;s an act for a freak show &#8211; Praetorian, all stats in the world talk about how industrial/post-industrial nations are GREYING, i.e. the percentage older/younger grows on the side of the older.<br />
Also, Praetorian, maybe it&#8217;s news for you, but when people get older they tend to travel to conservative positions &#8211; this meaning, Praetorian, that the larger society as a whole is irreversibly trending CONSERVATIVE, fool.  </p>
<p>Then, &#8220;Those trends, as they have throughout history, go up and down. Problems arise and problems are solved.&#8221;<br />
Thanks god, Praetorian is here with the good news!<br />
Fool, there isn&#8217;t such a thing like &#8220;kind of pregnant&#8221;, social and other problems are seldom resolved (and never by the political left), they&#8217;re just POSTPONED OR MANAGED, &#8217;till wars and brutal interraction settles the score for a while &#8211; then the carousel starts again &#8211; </p>
<p>Now your idiocy regarding the young people&#8217;s voting &#8211; I&#8217;ll limit myself at evoking today&#8217;s %50 unemployment amongst post-teens &amp; youth, fact for which both LEFT &amp; RIGHT SQUARELY &amp; RIGHTFULLY CREDITS OBAMA&#8217;S PORKULUS FOR, and now I&#8217;ll give you the chance to make a fool of yourself (time and again) by showing us how mighty lefty those youth will vote (if they&#8217;ll ever do it) in the next elections.</p>
<p>Then, &#8220;I guess that’s the difference between conservatives and liberals. Conservatives are negative and see the worst in human nature. Liberals are optimistic and see the better side of human nature and the potential to overcome any hurdle.&#8221;<br />
Heavens, Praetorian, can&#8217;t you come with just a simple, correct assessment? How&#8217;s that? It&#8217;s the left who want to control, direct and muzzle everything in society, it&#8217;s the left who don&#8217;t trust people and want them corralled &#8211; is this an optimistic view of the human nature? (And since here, and because you like to quote stats, the studies have also shown that conservatives are uniformly happier and optomistiker than liberals &amp; lefties, who are simply a collection of bitter, envious &amp; vindictive nags &#8211; and also studies have clearly shown that conservatives are much better at sex that liberals &amp; lefties, because they don&#8217;t mix things, when it comes to sex, it&#8217;s sex and not a lammenting session about global heating or the disparition of the pink-dotted whistling snails from Tobriand. (Since I am pretty sure that you&#8217;ve been constantly dumped, you may want to study my hint and review your foreplay practices &#8211; no, Praetorian, neither Algore videos or deforestation poetry won&#8217;t do it).    </p>
<p>And conversely, conservatives are the ones that have a positive view of human nature, they are largely laissez faire types. Enterprise, prospere, fail, then succeeed &#8211; great. BUT, liberal scum, die if this is your choice &#8211; but don&#8217;t try to bill me for what you do, comprende? </p>
<p>&#8220;Anyway, this post was about Andrea Merkel and my original point was she is no conservative.&#8221;<br />
Angela, not Andrea &#8211; as positions are on the European political spectrum, Merkel is a CONSERVATIVE. And as a former slave of DDR, that superb realm of freedom and enlightenment, when she looks for some inspiring guiding lights, be sure that they are Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, and not your exalted constellation of Stalin, Guevara, Castro, Yagoda, Mumia Jabal, Bill Ayres and Barack Obama.</p>
<p>And to conclude this by examining another pearl of yours &#8211; man, why should the GOP waste its time &amp; money trying to add college buffoons like you in the movement? Isn&#8217;t a great thing that the Democrats have to carry this discrediting cohort with them?</p>
<p>Hah! Nice ending, connecting Praetorian with the Democrat Party&#8217;s discrediting cohorts &#8211; style, bab&#8217;, style!</p>
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		<title>By: misanthropicus</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/germany-swings-to-the-center-right/#comment-407981</link>
		<dc:creator>misanthropicus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE #27/Marina: [...] There is no such thing as Obama’s support in Germany. There are polls that say that the majority of Germans think it’s right to SAY they support Obama. [...]

&quot;Under the spreading chestnut tree, I sold you, and you sold me&quot; - remember the little poem that closes Orwell&#039;s 1984? 
Well, it looks like while obedience, poitical alignment and uncritical thinking were achieved in Orwell&#039;s Oceania through a mixture of control, persuasion, intimidation and, if necessary by vile brutality, in our times the process has became simpler.
It&#039;s called political correctness, a comprehensive, pervasive psychological mesh that controls and paralyses people&#039;s critical spirit, and forces them to participate in vast public ceremonies of homagial Tai Chi, just to prove to others (and themselves) their orthodoxy and elightenment.

Bertolt Brecht&#039;s 3rd. Reich, then the Communist regimes - it is truly amazing to see how otherwise normal people, suddenly change their composure if a &quot;certain&quot; issue is mentioned around them, how they stridently take righteous positions, call for heresy inquiry &amp; stoning and, at the faintest prompt or warning, jump in mass, Tai Chi ceremonies to display their fidelity to the great cause &amp; the Luminous Leader.

3rd. Reich? Soviet Union as described by Soljenytzin? Ceaucescu&#039;s Romania? Our days N. Korea?
All of them, yet softly emerging as America and Western Europe, where people, upon challenging, quickly begin to pound their chest and bleat slogans that satisfy the ThoughtPolice - 

Results: we sure are heading towards the world evoked by Orwell, where &quot;Under the spreading chestnut tree, I sold you and you sold me...&quot;
        


The greatest achieveTai Chi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE #27/Marina: [...] There is no such thing as Obama’s support in Germany. There are polls that say that the majority of Germans think it’s right to SAY they support Obama. [...]</p>
<p>&#8220;Under the spreading chestnut tree, I sold you, and you sold me&#8221; &#8211; remember the little poem that closes Orwell&#8217;s 1984?<br />
Well, it looks like while obedience, poitical alignment and uncritical thinking were achieved in Orwell&#8217;s Oceania through a mixture of control, persuasion, intimidation and, if necessary by vile brutality, in our times the process has became simpler.<br />
It&#8217;s called political correctness, a comprehensive, pervasive psychological mesh that controls and paralyses people&#8217;s critical spirit, and forces them to participate in vast public ceremonies of homagial Tai Chi, just to prove to others (and themselves) their orthodoxy and elightenment.</p>
<p>Bertolt Brecht&#8217;s 3rd. Reich, then the Communist regimes &#8211; it is truly amazing to see how otherwise normal people, suddenly change their composure if a &#8220;certain&#8221; issue is mentioned around them, how they stridently take righteous positions, call for heresy inquiry &amp; stoning and, at the faintest prompt or warning, jump in mass, Tai Chi ceremonies to display their fidelity to the great cause &amp; the Luminous Leader.</p>
<p>3rd. Reich? Soviet Union as described by Soljenytzin? Ceaucescu&#8217;s Romania? Our days N. Korea?<br />
All of them, yet softly emerging as America and Western Europe, where people, upon challenging, quickly begin to pound their chest and bleat slogans that satisfy the ThoughtPolice &#8211; </p>
<p>Results: we sure are heading towards the world evoked by Orwell, where &#8220;Under the spreading chestnut tree, I sold you and you sold me&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>The greatest achieveTai Chi</p>
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		<title>By: venividivici</title>
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		<dc:creator>venividivici</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Americans don’t like what your selling anymore.&lt;/i&gt;

You need to get yourself over to 538.com and tell Nate Silver he can stop worrying about the 2010 elections, then, because he&#039;s almost on the verge of calling it a &quot;wave election&quot;, given the way the polls are shaping up. Hurry, now, little man, go cheer Nate up and tell him the mean old white GOP&#039;s nothing to be afraid of. You libs have been popping out babies left and right (well, maybe not &quot;right&quot;) since 1992 gearing up for this midterm fight, haven&#039;t you?

You are an ignorant little man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Americans don’t like what your selling anymore.</i></p>
<p>You need to get yourself over to 538.com and tell Nate Silver he can stop worrying about the 2010 elections, then, because he&#8217;s almost on the verge of calling it a &#8220;wave election&#8221;, given the way the polls are shaping up. Hurry, now, little man, go cheer Nate up and tell him the mean old white GOP&#8217;s nothing to be afraid of. You libs have been popping out babies left and right (well, maybe not &#8220;right&#8221;) since 1992 gearing up for this midterm fight, haven&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>You are an ignorant little man.</p>
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