Comments on: Germans and Israel: 60 Years of a Neurotic Obsession http://pjmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/ Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:46:50 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Anonymous http://pjmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-1269689 Anonymous Sun, 18 Sep 2011 10:16:50 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-1269689 Israel had the Masada complex in history books but in these end times they have the Samson Complex and so God Himself will step in otherwise all flesh will be lost .God Himself will fight and destroy the gathering of all ungodly apostate nations that would think evil in their hearts and go against His Holy WORD and go against Israel. The Lord God, the Creator of Heaven and earth remembers His Covenant to Israel and willnot and cannot forget nor forsake Israel .The godless apostate nations that seek to gather against Israel will perish in the valley of Meggido in the battle of ARMAGEDDON.(Zechariah Chapter 14 ). Israel has nothing to fear. America stands by it now and forever.God bless Israel and God bless America. Israel had the Masada complex in history books but in these end times they have the Samson Complex and so God Himself will step in otherwise all flesh will be lost .God Himself will fight and destroy the gathering of all ungodly apostate nations that would think evil in their hearts and go against His Holy WORD and go against Israel. The Lord God, the Creator of Heaven and earth remembers His Covenant to Israel and willnot and cannot forget nor forsake Israel .The godless apostate nations that seek to gather against Israel will perish in the valley of Meggido in the battle of ARMAGEDDON.(Zechariah Chapter 14 ).
Israel has nothing to fear. America stands by it now and forever.God bless Israel and God bless America.

]]> By: Errol Smythe http://pjmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-505877 Errol Smythe Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:47:07 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-505877 Israel had the Masada complex in history books but in these end times they have the Samson Complex and so God Himself will step in otherwise all flesh will be lost . God Himself will fight and destroy the gathering of all ungodly apostate nations that would think evil in their hearts and go against His Holy WORD and go against Israel. The Lord God, the Creator of Heaven and earth remembers His Covenant to Israel and willnot and cannot forget nor forsake Israel .The godless apostate nations that seek to gather against Israel will perish in the valley of Meggido in the battle of ARMAGEDDON.(Zechariah Chapter 14 ). Israel has nothing to fear. America stands by it now and forever.God bless Israel and God bless America. Israel had the Masada complex in history books but in these end times they have the Samson Complex and so God Himself will step in otherwise all flesh will be lost .

God Himself will fight and destroy the gathering of all ungodly apostate nations that would think evil in their hearts and go against His Holy WORD and go against Israel.

The Lord God, the Creator of Heaven and earth remembers His Covenant to Israel and willnot and cannot forget nor forsake Israel .The godless apostate nations that seek to gather against Israel will perish in the valley of Meggido in the battle of ARMAGEDDON.(Zechariah Chapter 14 ).

Israel has nothing to fear. America stands by it now and forever.God bless Israel and God bless America.

]]> By: anonymous http://pjmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-56100 anonymous Sun, 08 Jun 2008 18:28:21 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-56100 All military units of the SS and even the Wehrmacht were involved in the Holocaust.I am here to post a few links; Help the UN rights watch combat dictators,tyrants,and madmenin the world; http://www.unwatch.org/site/c.bdKKISNqEmG/b.1277549/k.BF70/Home.htm Check these resolutions that have been passed since 2006- http://www.unwatch.org/site/c.bdKKISNqEmG/b.3820041/ Watch what happens when UN rights watch confronts Sudan about Darfur http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_niYYxEWNU Watch what is approved and condemned at the UN in particular blaming Israel as invaders from MARS! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMEw0lZ3k_Y&feature=related All military units of the SS and even the Wehrmacht were involved in the Holocaust.I am here to post a few links;

Help the UN rights watch combat dictators,tyrants,and madmenin the world;
http://www.unwatch.org/site/c.bdKKISNqEmG/b.1277549/k.BF70/Home.htm

Check these resolutions that have been passed since 2006-
http://www.unwatch.org/site/c.bdKKISNqEmG/b.3820041/

Watch what happens when UN rights watch confronts Sudan about Darfur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_niYYxEWNU

Watch what is approved and condemned at the UN in particular blaming Israel as invaders from MARS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMEw0lZ3k_Y&feature=related

]]> By: jost kaiser http://pjmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-55073 jost kaiser Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:45:44 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-55073 I'm sorry, I was wrong with saying Brandeburg was a SS-Unit. Maybe the webmaster can correct this into "Wehrmacht Special Unit" so that we can end this discussion. I’m sorry, I was wrong with saying Brandeburg was a SS-Unit.
Maybe the webmaster can correct this into “Wehrmacht Special Unit” so that we can end this discussion.

]]> By: Don http://pjmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-54755 Don Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:00:22 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-54755 There is a great deal of difference (and not "Nuances") between SS units (some of which participated in "Einsatzgruppen" atrocities), and the Brandenburg Regiment. One was the military arm of a political movement, the other? A highly trained (and motivated) special operations unit that conducted direct action (raids, etc), intelligence operations, guerrilla and counter guerilla operations in every theatre (usually independently and quite far behind enemy lines) the Germans operated in, some of these small units were active deep within the Soviet Union for quite a time after the end of WW2. Wegener is quite not off base when he remarked that some of the SO knowledge base for the Israelis (as well as for most of the professional armies) comes from lessons learned by units like the BR (and the OSS, and the SOE) during the most costly war in history. There is a great deal of difference (and not “Nuances”) between SS units (some of which participated in “Einsatzgruppen” atrocities), and the Brandenburg Regiment. One was the military arm of a political movement, the other? A highly trained (and motivated) special operations unit that conducted direct action (raids, etc), intelligence operations, guerrilla and counter guerilla operations in every theatre (usually independently and quite far behind enemy lines) the Germans operated in, some of these small units were active deep within the Soviet Union for quite a time after the end of WW2. Wegener is quite not off base when he remarked that some of the SO knowledge base for the Israelis (as well as for most of the professional armies) comes from lessons learned by units like the BR (and the OSS, and the SOE) during the most costly war in history.

]]> By: narciso http://pjmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-54446 narciso Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:06:19 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-54446 I understand he probably meant it as a compliment, in so far as Israeli military is much more focused than the Arab military. It does seem curious since Munich in '72, that Germany attracks more Arab and Islamist militants; the RAF role in Mogadishu, the Frankfort contingent for Pan Am 103, the Hamburg cell; which included KSM at one point. I understand he probably meant it as a compliment, in so far as Israeli military is much more focused than the Arab military. It does seem curious since Munich in ’72, that Germany attracks more Arab and Islamist militants; the RAF role in Mogadishu, the
Frankfort contingent for Pan Am 103, the Hamburg cell; which included KSM at one point.

]]> By: jost kaiser http://pjmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-54256 jost kaiser Thu, 05 Jun 2008 20:19:07 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-54256 I talked to Wegener, he was deeply depressed and ashamed by the desaster of munich. That was an honest emotion. But he's a man of the military, who always tend to feel supressed by political correctnes. He thinks that the Brandenburg Unit has to be honoured for theit tactital abilities. So he's a strange man: attracted by German Miltarism and at the same time friend of Israel. I talked to Wegener, he was deeply depressed and ashamed by the desaster of munich. That was an honest emotion. But he’s a man of the military, who always tend to feel supressed by political correctnes. He thinks that the Brandenburg Unit has to be honoured for theit tactital abilities.

So he’s a strange man: attracted by German Miltarism and at the same time friend of Israel.

]]> By: Don http://pjmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-53902 Don Thu, 05 Jun 2008 12:15:36 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-53902 I doubt that Gehlen (the BND) would have much to do with ideological/real enemies (which Brunner most assuredly was as a denizen of the Gestapo and member of the Allgemeine SS). Gehlen's Boss was Canaris (of the Abwehr) who was part of the conspiracy against Hitler (and was executed). The reason Brunner and Buench were working with the Pan-Arab Fascist movement lies in the tight relationship the NAZI's had with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (who was an eager if not so successful ally). If the Germans had more appreciation for the facts of their history (and the context within which Salafist radicalism grew) they might have a different picture of who their real threats are. Al Queda (and it's Shia equivalents) were inspired by the Mufti . . .Iran? = "Land of the Aryans" . . . what political movement would inspire a name like that? I doubt that Gehlen (the BND) would have much to do with ideological/real enemies (which Brunner most assuredly was as a denizen of the Gestapo and member of the Allgemeine SS). Gehlen’s Boss was Canaris (of the Abwehr) who was part of the conspiracy against Hitler (and was executed). The reason Brunner and Buench were working with the Pan-Arab Fascist movement lies in the tight relationship the NAZI’s had with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (who was an eager if not so successful ally). If the Germans had more appreciation for the facts of their history (and the context within which Salafist radicalism grew) they might have a different picture of who their real threats are. Al Queda (and it’s Shia equivalents) were inspired by the Mufti . . .Iran? = “Land of the Aryans” . . . what political movement would inspire a name like that?

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]]> By: narciso http://pjmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-53670 narciso Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:38:39 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/germans-and-israel-60-years-of-a-neurotic-obsession/#comment-53670 Did Ulrich forget that the lead trainer for most Israelis in the Palmach,(the predecessor to the Army) was Orde Wingate, an Englishman. IS he trying to expiate the guilt about how German police were unable to protect the athletes at Munich; that was the major impetus for the creation of GSG-9 correct. The irony continues in the fact, that many of the PLO cadres at Munich and other events were trained by either Egyptian or Syrian security services; (ie; Ali Hassan Salameh, the red prince) and they were in turn advised by German expatriates like Alois Brunner, and Fritz Buench; who were in turn working for the BND. Did Ulrich forget that the lead trainer for most Israelis in the Palmach,(the predecessor to the Army) was Orde Wingate, an Englishman.
IS he trying to expiate the guilt about how German police were unable to protect the athletes at Munich; that was the major impetus
for the creation of GSG-9 correct. The irony continues in the fact, that many of the PLO
cadres at Munich and other events were trained
by either Egyptian or Syrian security services; (ie; Ali Hassan Salameh, the red prince) and they were in turn advised by German expatriates like Alois Brunner, and Fritz Buench; who were in turn working for the BND.

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