George Soros, Nazi Obsessive
George Soros has a Nazi problem. I don’t say that lightly. In fact, I regard those who go around calling people Nazis without substantial verification of such an allegiance to be either without conscience or without strong mental moorings.
So, who was the most prominent individual of the past decade to use the Nazi smear against another public person? That would be George Soros himself.
To refresh the national memory, let’s recall George Soros’ public “Bush is like Hitler” remarks, beginning in 2003. Laura Blumenfeld interviewed George Soros for The Washington Post and summed up Soros’ antipathy for Bush thus:
Soros believes that a “supremacist ideology” guides this White House. He hears echoes in its rhetoric of his childhood in occupied Hungary. “When I hear Bush say, ‘You’re either with us or against us,’ it reminds me of the Germans.” It conjures up memories, he said, of Nazi slogans on the walls, Der Feind Hort Mit (“The enemy is listening”). “My experiences under Nazi and Soviet rule have sensitized me,” he said in a soft Hungarian accent.
Soros’ first volley into the Bush-Hitler meme was quickly followed by a MoveOn.org ad campaign against then-President George W. Bush using actual WWII Nazi film footage, interspersed with Bush comparisons. As all aware Americans know by now, George Soros is the money bag that keeps MoveOn in business. The ad that appeared on MoveOn’s site melded an actual recording of Hitler with photos of Bush. “A nation warped by lies. Lies fuel fear. Fear fuels aggression. Invasion. Occupation. What were war crimes in 1945 is foreign policy in 2003,” the ad said. The public outcry was fast and furious, forcing MoveOn to remove the ad from its site and make piteous declarations of ignorance regarding its ever getting there in the first place. But the “Bush is Hitler” meme, begun by Soros’ himself, by then had strong legs throughout the Soros-influenced left wing.
Soros put more than $25 million of his own money into defeating George W. Bush in 2004, calling that mission the “central focus of his life.” Coming away with nothing but an “I supported the other guy” t-shirt, Soros went all in with Barack Obama. Not content, however, merely to back an alternate party candidate, Soros reiterated his “Bush is like the Nazi leader” mantra at Davos in 2007:
“America needs to follow the policies it has introduced in Germany,” he said. “We have to go through a certain de-Nazification process.”
So, again I say that George Soros has a Nazi problem.
At the moment, however, Soros is battling his Nazi problem from a wholly different angle.
You see, while George W. Bush had not even yet been born in 1945, when real Nazis were perpetrating the real Holocaust, George Soros, as a teenager, was actually helping real Nazis confiscate the real property of real, about-to-be-“exterminated” Jews in his native Budapest, Hungary.
And no, this actual Nazi collaboration by a young George Soros was not an obscure tidbit dug up by opposition researchers. George Soros freely admitted his actions in the now-infamous Steve Kroft interview of 1998. Soros was shocked that the interview was so upsetting to so many and endeavored greatly to put the controversy to rest by giving more details and explanations to his biographer, Michael Kaufman.
It seems rather unjustified to try to infer anything about Soros’ lifetime character from his behavior as a child or young adult in wartime Europe.
Yes, a small few 14-year-olds were fighting as soldiers in the war, but the overwhelming majority were not on any side of the conflict. Participating in black market activities was a part of life for a large segment of the population, for better or for worse. Survival was the goal, for jews and non-jews alike. Particularly in countries like Hungary which ended up on the losing side.
Incidentally the bit about 12-year-old German soldiers being drafted is incorrect. While very late in the war volunteer age limits were reduced in the German army and SS, the difference was in going down to age 17 and 16. The use of actual 12-year-old children in combat was something only seen during the true last days of the European war during the defense of Germany itself, and even then on a largely ad-hoc and sporadic basis. There were no tank units manned by 12-year-olds.
“It seems rather unjustified to try to infer anything about Soros’ lifetime character from his behavior as a child or young adult in wartime Europe”
At what age do you being inferring? last month, yesterday, breakfast?
What an inane comment.
One’s own death vs. 6 million deaths… I guess if you’re a narcissist, one’s own death is a bigger deal… but to people with a moral compass, losing one life to save millions seems a pretty good trade-off. That’s why we have cops and firemen that run into danger when everyone else is running away, and why we rightly honor those people.
It becomes reasonable at an age when an individual is old enough not only to make their own choices in life free from the demands of parents, but also has the mental development to make mature decisions. This is the same reason why juveniles are not judged by the same standards as adults in the criminal justice system or even civil law. Yes, sometimes you can learn things about people from their conduct at a young age, but that is different from retroactively judging such behavior some 65 years later. Asking whether Soros’ wartime experiences shaped his current character is a valid question and different from asserting that Soros’ wartime actions at 14 was a direct indication of his lifetime personality, values and morals.
As to narcissism, how is not actively working to fight the holocaust as a 14-year-old in war-torn Europe automatically narcissism? My rough guess is of the 14-year-olds in Hungary 99.9 percent of them were not resistance freedom fighters or hiding jewish families from the Nazis. So Soros is a narcissist because he is one of the vast majority simply living his life at the time as best he could to survive?
I have no love for Soros, and his current political stances I find especially abhorrent. However it does no good to stretch the case against him to include his childhood when there is so much of his adult record which stands for itself as being despicable.
The one thing this article never states is that Soros actually worked to actively help the Nazis with the holocaust in any way. Perhaps he did, my knowledge of his childhood is minimal. However if so, the author hasn’t stated it. Simply engaging in black marketeering and currency speculation is a long way away from being the 14-year-old Adolf Eichmann.
The son is the father of the man. His childhood attitudes never changed. Isn’t that rather the point?
Thanks for saying the obvious.
It also applies to little lenin, as you know. Yet we are supposed to believe that somewhow the boy king, after spending 44 years completely immersed in radical America-hating, marxist, racist, machiavellian, power-mad politics and ideologies somehow evolved into a bible-thumping football-loving flag-pin-wearing middle-of-the-road Reagan-like American patriot in 2007.
btw, vlad is a troll. I complained about the first names for the trolls so many times that they tried to gain some sympathy with a russian name. It how these people think.
Considering that I’m a longtime Pajamas Media reader and short time commenter who has never commented before under any name whatsoever, I find being called a “troll” laughable. Take the time to read some of my comments on other topics before stooping to personal insults, please.
I should be more careful with my comments about George Soros defenders.
There’s probably another solid conservative out there somewhere who has a soft spot for sweet Georgie.
Vladimir writes:>>”It becomes reasonable at an age when an individual is old enough not only to make their own choices in life free from the demands of parents, but also has the mental development to make mature decisions. This is the same reason why juveniles are not judged by the same standards as adults in the criminal justice system or even civil law.”<<
That is a rather incorrect assumption on your part, Vladimir. Many states, indeed, *judge juveniles as adults* for criminal behavior – either through Judicial Waiver, Direct File, or Statuary Exclusion.
In NY State the statue can be used against a juvenile as young as seven (7) years of age. Many states correctly adjudicate criminal activity of juveniles as adults beginning at ten years (10) of age. Rare is the state which does not have a statue adjudicating juveniles as young as twelve (12) or thirteen (13) years of age.
The consequences of transfer from juvenile court to be charged as an adult are very serious. The juvenile will be tried as an adult and can face the same penalties as adults, including life without parole. If convicted, the juvenile will have an adult criminal record which can significantly affect future education and employment opportunities. An adult conviction can also result in the loss of rights, including the right to vote *and* right to own a firearm. These are only a few examples of the consequences to transfer and this list is by no means exhaustive.
Just a point of clarification on your second post in this thread.
“One’s own death vs. 6 million deaths… I guess if you’re a narcissist, one’s own death is a bigger deal…”
You guys seem to love using this “narcissist” word. Do you even know what it means?
“but to people with a moral compass, losing one life to save millions seems a pretty good trade-off.”
Er, yeah, ok. So … can you show me the the part where somebody gave soros that choice?
He gave himself that choice. His own words convict him. He felt “above it all.” He made his own choice in the matter. Did he choose to be part of the resistance? No – he chose the path of collaborator.
He was 14.
“Incidentally the bit about 12-year-old German soldiers being drafted is incorrect.”
True. Although when the russians were rolling into berlin, pretty much every male with two working legs was given a rifle and shoved out into the streets. The very old and the very young were effectively “drafted”, but it was barely organised.
The author’s gripe was with statements Soros made in his 70′s, his preening of his cleverness in the war years. Soros’ nonchalant “If I hadn’t been there doing it, then someone else would have” excuse, and even knowing all the gruesome details of the Hungarian Holocaust, he still described the war years as “the most exciting time of my life.”
You don’t justify those sentiments, do you?
Or may be he felt shame after all, by equating Bush to a Nazi made Nazi sound less monstrous, and himself less despicable?
Can you please give me a link to an actual transcript, or something that he himself has written, wherein is says it was the “most exciting time of his life”?
I’ve investigated a couple of these “smoking gun” statements and found them to be deliberate falsifications. Specifically, he never said that destroying america was his aim, or that the financial crisis was the culmination of his life’s work. I’ve got the actual interview, and those are obvious fabrications – he actually said the opposite.
So … some primary sources please. Or do you guys just believe what beck tells you?
‘Can you please give me a link to an actual transcript, or something that he himself has written, wherein is says it was the “most exciting time of his life”? ‘
Nice set up try. There is no link to anything Soros himself has written that says it was the “most exciting time of his life”. Given your history of dishonest and disingenuous posting here on PJM, it’s a good bet you are well aware that the Soros quotes come from what he told his biographer, Michael Kaufman.
D@mn poseur. What would your next self-aggrandizing quip have been? Something along the lines of ‘you guys don’t know the difference between attributed and quoted’?
Stick to your guns Matthew. Obviously, George Soros is one of your heros.
Soros is unlikeable, thinks himself above the law in his business dealings, and has dubious political theories. But, to condemn him as a Nazi collaborater for acts related above, done when he was a young teen, seems a bit of a stretch.
Why? As a “mature” man later in life he expresses NO regrets about what he did as a teenager while collaborating with the Nazis. NO regrets about capitalizing on the misfortune of others. He shrugs it off, “If I didn’t do it, someone else would.” He owns his actions. He approves of his actions. He shows himself to be a morally bankrupt and thoroughly corrupt and selfish man.
Good point. As a grown man looking back at the time he was 14, you can bet that if Soros could do it all over again, he WOULD do it all over again.
How, exactly, did he “capitalize on the misfortune of others”?
You seem to be forgetting that it wasn’t HIS job, it was the job of his guardian. He was just a spectator.
See paragraph 25 or so, and consider getting a tutor to help with you reading skills.
TO: All
RE: Maybe….
Beneath his public outrage lies an outrageous lack of conscience. — Kyle-Anne Shiver
….we should refer to him as Soroman.
Regards,
Chuck(le)
[Whoso causeth the righteous to go astray in an evil way, he shall fall himself into his own pit -- Proverbs]
“….we should refer to him as Soroman.”
Bravo!
I dont fault GS for his actions during the war. Nor do I waste time worrying about his lack of remorse or even care for what happened. What I do concerm myself is how to stop him. This is a prime example of what we are up against. We are up against people who do only whats best for them wioth no regard. Just like the islamist. They do not not want peace, or tolerance or coexistand. they want to rule and they want to rule YOU. Period. you cant reason with them and you cant negotiate. you showing them love or tolerance only sickens them and emboldens them. your only real hope is to be more ruthless than them. they have already stated and been honest about what they will do for their goals. and while slogans and song lyrics look good on placards and sound good in sound bite the truth is that if we think we can actually win by being nice….and playing fair, then we are doomed. And in fact GS actions during the war and after proove my point perfectly
jmz:
Careful now. Other commenters might stoop to calling you a realist, or a truth teller, which to many of them is much worse than calling one a Nazi.
I also believe that George Soros is a megalomaniac who feels that he has something to “prove” to either himself or the world. He seems to want to show the world that this Nazi collaborator from the past who did everything he could to merely survive actually grew up to be the most powerful man in the world. To say that he’s nuts is to be kind. And for Obama and his minions to have anything to do with this turd says a lot about Obama and his minions. Soros is getting way up there in age now and soon he’ll die. Perhaps as he lays dying, he will be tortured by the ghosts of all of the people he helped kill with the assistance of the Nazis. But, I guess for a person to feel badly about that he would first have to have a conscience. Based on his entire life, it is very clear that Soros has none.
Enjoy your moral equivalence and ill-gotten gains while you can, George. You can’t drag it into the hole behind you.
A comforting thought. One only need to look upon GS to see the epitome of sheer, unabashed evil walking around on two legs.
There are people who lack the ability to self-reflect, to review one’s actions objectively and to seek to right wrongs done to others. That self-reflection is the heart of Christianity. However, if one has no moral compass, there is no incentive to judge one’s own behavior. I’ve known two women schooled in Hitler’s Germany who later married G.I.’s to become American citizens. One of them said to co-workers, “It wasn’t Germany’s fault that the Jews were exterminated. After all, they had sent boatloads to other countries where they were not allowed to immigrate.” Her co-workers were shocked, but they, unlike her, were all raised to believe in Judeo/Christian principles of right and wrong.
Wasn’t Soros’s dream of a one-world-government the same as Hitler’s? Hitler’s method was military, and Mr Soros’s is economic, but they both have sought the end of the United States as a free republic.
Mr. Soros and his funding of politicians and radical environmentalists who hate modern life would not be a threat to our society if our politicians were not corrupted by money. Thanks for shedding light on this evil old man masquerading as a philanthropist.
Soros sounds like a sociopath. He has no empathy and wants to win at all costs. Like all sociopaths, he is someone to avoid. The world will be better off without him.
Brilliant and comprehensive.
Thank you.
Soros is leftist scum. He has been paid back for his support for Obama, by the government making a major loan for the development of the new Brazilian offshore oil find. Soros, himself, is heavily invested in that oilfield.
More billions in taxpayer money being used to pay back Obama supporters.
One has to wonder if Obama banned off-shore drilling in the Gulf to help out his buddy Soros. I’m sure the rental price on a drilling platform dropped like real estate prices in Los Angeles once the ban was enacted.
Nothing like a little ‘back-scratching’.
has it cost us as much as much as right wing scumbag Dick Cheney and haliburton’s war proffiteering, not trying to defend the left, but I think the Bible says it best, “while trying to get the speck out of your friends eye you are unable to see the plank in your own” (paraphrased of coarse)
two wrongs do not make a right, tit for tat
The French “crapule de luxe” (freely: grade AAA scum) comes to mind.
No wonder the left admires Soros. He’s got a lot of money, he makes up rules for others from which he exempts himself (only little people pay taxes, as they say in the Obama administration), drives his liberalism around in a limousine (like Kerry and any number of other Democrats), has a “cosmopolitan” contempt for the bitter clingers and their religion, thinks he’s better and smarter than the little people who need to be governed under an enhanced central authority if progress is to be made toward the left’s goal, paradise on earth. I wonder how often he and his bodyguard of former SEALS have paid visits to Nancy Pelosi’s sumptuous Pacific Heights mansion or Napa winery.
If he had no money would anyone even talk to this critter? Have never understood why respectable people anywhere would associate with him.
Mr. Soros is a classic psychopath. Psychopathy is a form of personal pathology that should, like paranoia or schizophrenia, disqualify a person for responsibility for his actions. Yet, like Mr. Obama as well, the disease condition of psychopathy draws admirers. How nice it is to be free of preconceptions, the admirers think. But they are deluded and wind up the victim of those they admire. The psychopath’s coolness, honesty, steely resolve, forever back slapping smiling self is a facade that has all the beauty and charm of a Venus Fly Trap. Psychopaths can and do go out to a quiet dinner immediately after screwing up the lives of those they seek to control or eliminate entirely. Why not!
Soros is as close to the devil incarnate as any modern figure.
He is bereft of conscience, a parasitic creature, a meglomaniac, and that is for openers!
I say this as someone who had many relatives die in the Holocaust, as a daughter-in-law to two Auschwitz survivors, and as a human being who gets chills every time Soros and the Holocaust are uttered in the same sentence.
Simply put,if there is one man who should burn in hellfire-aside from the obvious suspects-the Iranian Hitler and his Islamist counterparts-it is Soros.
May G-d in heaven have mercy on all of us who have to suffer his EVIL machinations.
I couldn’t get past the first page, sorry.
I wonder how many showers a day that man takes….
Although the show was “black” comedy at best, I do not think an image of the actor Werner Klemperer, (son of the conductor Otto Klemperer, and a Jewish refugee from NAZI era Germany), in his portrayal of Colonel Klink is appropriate.
There are many more images of real people available to reflect the evil that was synonymous with the NAZI party. Even the character Wilhelm Klink was more in the proud tradition of a German military career officer, than that of the thuggish NAZI criminals that rose in power and stature.
Now to your piece, I am not sure if Mr. Soros did not sell his soul to the Devil (Faust). In many respects it appears that he has. And truth be told, I would not be surprised, given the evidence of amoral behavior, and the wreckage of lives destroyed in his wake.
I am forced to agree with your point about Klemperer. From what I have read here and there, Klemperer insisted that if he was to be a part of Hogan’s Heroes, the Nazis HAD to lose in every episode.
John Banner (Schultz), Leon Asking (Burkhalter), and Howard Caine (Gestapo Major Hochstetter) are also all Jewish.
Wonder what ol’ Soros thinks of Jews portraying Nazis?
Oops, I seem to have misspelled Mr. Askin’s name.
My apologies to Mr. Askin and to the readers here.
WOW. What a column. This is another for the archives. There is nothing more to add save…why has this man not been named an international criminal? And why is he allowed to get away with being a SELF-CONFESSED Nazi collaborator? The wonder of it all is that the usual suspects are trying to pin the ant-Semite charge on Glenn Beck for exposing the REAL anti-Semite. But then again, those who are all too familiar with the tactics of the vicious left are not surprised at the gall and dishonesty it would take to do such a thing. But the fact that Abe Foxman would collaborate in this smear is beyond the pale.
Evil…..
“Oh, and lest we forget, Soros’ main life objective, as he told his biographer, is to “become the conscience of the world.” If Soros’ own conscience is the guide, who would wish to live in that world?”
OUCH!
Good for em.
I find it interesting that Hitler is not linked to Socialism? The Nazi Party was the National Socialist Party. If you look at the organization and operation of Hitler’s Germany you see a modern socialist state with a military overlay. The main difference Hitler’s socialism was more efficient and more effective. Of course, he was “liberating” wealth from those “undeserving” Jews! Socialists like the communists use the big lie, to liberate wealth from the undeserving. You may wonder what this has to do with George Soros. He is also a socialist. He is “deserving.” He is a Nazi still. To show true remorse for his foul deeds would make him undeserving and his life a lie.
The decoupling was deliberate. The communists and Nazis were buddies until Hitler turned on Stalin. Then a false dichotomy (propaganda) was created by the left when the atrocities of Germany became too terrible to ignore. The left has successfully peddled the idea that the two are different, and today, most people still don’t see through the deception. That is one of the reasons why the left hates Beck because he has been teaching Americans that there was/is no difference. Every time a leftie uses the word Nazi to smear their enemy, they are smearing themselves as well. They might be dumb but too many people are catching on.
Well, you’re close.
Actually, if you do some background reading, you’ll see that Hitler and the National Socialists came into power in part on being opposed to the world-wide communist movement. There never was any connection between the National Socialists and the Communists. If you follow his rise into power, you’ll see that Mr. Hitler took great pains to link the German Communist party to Jewish agitators and then used that connection as the justification to rid Germany of any traces of the communist party.
The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact Mr. Hitler signed with Mr. Stalin was pretty clearly a calculated means of neutralising the Soviets from acting against the Germans until Mr. Hitler believed he was ready to take them on. The quid pro quo for the Soviets staying out of the war was that Mr. Hitler agreed to carve up Central Europe with them voluntarily. But in reality, Mr. Hitler never had any intention of maintaining the relationship with the Soviets – it was the pretext through which Mr. Hitler could ensure that the Soviets wouldn’t enter the conflict too soon. There was no other purpose behind it. There was no alliance at all. In fact, the alternate name of the treaty was the German-Soviet Non-Aggression Pact, meaning that they agreed only not to fight each other, not to help each other in any substantive way.
Nazi Germany was communism run by Germans, the smartest and most regimented population that has ever existed.
The ONLY reason the Nazi regime is considered “right” is because the loathesome, godless, amoral mass murderers of the left have declared (without a shred of evidence) that they are the side of peace, and that their intelligent and efficent twins, the Nazis, must therefore be on the right.
That’s about the weakest attempt I’ve seen yet.
Stick to quoting jonah golberg.
The National Socialist Party. That’s a clue.
In practice, the nazis were facists from an economic perspective (like little lenin), but their governing philosophy was identical with the communist politburos, the devine kings, the Pharaohs, and Obama…it’s called totalitarianism. None of them had or have any political philosophy whatsoever, other than to do whatever it takes to gain total dominance over a population.
There isn’t a whit of difference between communists, nazies, royalists, statists, socialists, revolutionaries and obamunists. Some have different cons, but the objective of the cons is the same…a 2-class society of .1% commissars (formerly “aristocrats”) and 99.9% serfs. The reason that it is critical to reduce people to the level of serfdom is that when people have wealth, they are more difficult to control; but serfs are easy to control. For example, Obama’s ENTIRE agenda is designed to reduce the wealth of the United States. So far, he has succeeded beyond his dreams.
You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. Seriously.
“The National Socialist Party. That’s a clue.”
No, it isn’t. As I’ve pointed out before, north korea’s full name is the “Democratic People’s Republic of Korea”. Are you saying it’s a democracy? Its governing party is the “Democratic Front for the Reunification of the Fatherland”. Is that also a clue? North vietnam called itself a democratic republic. East germany – the “German Democratic Republic”. Are you starting to understand yet how silly it is to base your argument on a name?
“In practice, the nazis were facists from an economic perspective (like little lenin)”
Not exactly, no.
but their governing philosophy was identical with the communist politburos,
Drivel. They were both rotten philosophies, but they WERE different. Communists were obsessed with class and their broken notion of economics and history, and wanted their political system to spread throughout the world. The nazis were obsessed with race and nationalism, and didn’t particularly care what happened outside of europe as long as they got their way. The way they governed was ALSO completely different. It’s actually quite difficult to find many similarities between politics and life under stalin compared with living under hitler. Personally, I’d have taken life under hitler any day over stalin’s russia in the 30′s … but thankfully I don’t have to make that choice. And either way it ends badly for everyone.
it’s called totalitarianism.
Yes, absolutely. Although I’d say stalin was quite a bit more totalitarian than hitler was. Hitler wasn’t quite so concerned with political purity or paranoia – he was more interested in outcomes. But totalitarianism isn’t the only aspect of a political system.
None of them had or have any political philosophy whatsoever, other than to do whatever it takes to gain total dominance over a population.
Hmm. See, you’re not doing yourself any favors with that statement. Nobody’s reading that and thinking “wow, that guy’s awfully well-informed”.
There isn’t a whit of difference between communists, nazies, royalists, statists, socialists, revolutionaries and obamunists.
No difference between communists and royalists. Wow.
For example, Obama’s ENTIRE agenda is designed to reduce the wealth of the United States. So far, he has succeeded beyond his dreams.
Actually, his predecessor did that. Apparently your grasp of recent american history is even worse than your understanding of 20th century european history.
Soros should be tried for Crimes against Humanity. He’s a clone of Hitler himself.
Little Gyorgy does not deserve the courtesy of a trial. He has freely admitted it all. All that is left is a double tap to the forehead and justice will be served. And upon his death, the ‘loan’ granted for his investing in the Tupi oilfield should become a fount of money for the US government to retire some of its debt.
Just to nitpick, please don’t use Col. Klink as the picture of a Nazi. His character was not a Nazi, but a military officer. Second, when Werner Klemperer accepted the job to portray Col. Klink, he had the condition that the Nazi’s would never win an encounter with the POW’s, because he didn’t want people to see the Nazi’s as winners.
Thanks for covering the UN, a more worthless hive of villainy and evil doesn’t exist this side of Tatooine.
A good article depicting a sociopath that we have let put Barack Obama and his followers at the controls of the worlds most powerful military. Now who should we hold responsible for that? The fifth column of the so called main stream media? The duplicity of the Clintons and the other Democratic hacks? The Progressives of both parties? Or ourselves for allowing our knowledge and awareness of who leads us to fall to such depths? God will soon pass his judgement on those who have allowed themselves to be so betrayed.
I agree completely with all except the “ourselves” part. It is horrifying enough to live in this world where Obama takes apart the USA piece-by-piece and gives it to Third World dictators and their friends. But I will not feel any guilt or blame for it, and neither should the rest of us who researched and knew about the man long before he was elected. There was nothing else we could have done.
It was so apparent; Obama’s sleazy innuendos against conservatives, like “They’ll say he has a funny name…Oh, and did we mention he’s black?” spelled out exactly what his morals were (or were not) and drove many of us crazy that we could not make people see. I know that so many of us are still furious with the “mushy middle,” the uneducated and unaware who voted for him based on media adulation and their own white guilt. What we can not do is blame ourselves, we who saw and knew from the start.
How many Jews carry the same meme?
Well, just take a look at how many Jews support him politically and financially here in the US, in the European Union, and in Israel.
Then, you get the picture.
Soros is one of the most dangerous people to ever live. He’s up there with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Attila the Hun, Cortez, Nero and all of those other multi-cultural heros who were just exercising their rights to value systems that are merely different from Judeo-Christianity. After all, there are no bad people, just different cultures. Who are we to judge? (unless, of course, the judgement is issued by a progressive)
“Oh, and lest we forget, Soros’ main life objective, as he told his biographer, is to “become the conscience of the world.” If Soros’ own conscience is the guide, who would wish to live in that world?”
So in the end he falls into the same trap as Lucifer who desired to mount the throne and become a God. Instead of Man making God in man’s image he wishes for man to make God in the image of Soros.
The only two words to describe george soros is “human filth”.
I think that one could safely drop the “human” from that statement.
“…his own conscience is made from a wholly indifferent cloth.”
An absolutely brilliant phrase, which really sums up Soros. Thank you for this excellent article.
Soros never recovered from his Stockholm Syndrome. Most folks eventually recover and see their captors as evil.
Soros was one of those people who internalized the evil that victimized them in order to psychologically survive.
Something like 95% of child molestors were molested as children themselves.
Or so they claim…!I don’t personally believe it as I know people who have been molested and otherwise treated extremely violently and still manage to grow into responsible nice adults. As for Soros, unlike many commenters, I read his book about himself “Soros on Soros” many years ago and concluded that this individual must not be trusted for anything. I also lived during WWII and we knew Hitler’s party as the Nazional Sozialistische Partei. Nazi is just an abbreviation and my family considered the Nazis on the same level as the communists in the Soviet Union.
thanks for your response, but my point was that most child molestors were molested as children themselves. (and the 95% number is my guess. I didn’t look it up.)
Your point is separate. Being molested does not mean that one has a 95% chance of becoming a molestor. So yes, as you say, most children who were molested do not become molestors themselves.
The man is evil incarnate. Politicians and leftist that take his blood money only stain their own souls. Jews who defend this despicable man will have to sort it out with God. As for George himself, the fires of hell will not be hot enough.
“George Soros, as a teenager, was actually helping real Nazis confiscate the real property of real, about-to-be-“exterminated” Jews in his native Budapest, Hungary.”
Not quite. Here’s the real story, in Soros’ own words and in the words of the Wikipedia author:
‘I was told to go to the Jewish Council. And there I was given these small slips of paper…It said report to the rabbi seminary at 9 a.m….And I was given this list of names. I took this piece of paper to my father. He instantly recognized it. This was a list of Hungarian Jewish lawyers. He said, “You deliver the slips of paper and tell the people that if they report they will be deported.”’
“In 1944, at age 14, Soros lived with and posed as the godson of an employee of the Hungarian Ministry of Agriculture. On one occasion, the official was ordered to inventory the remaining contents of the estate of a wealthy Jewish family that had fled the country. Rather than leave the young George alone in the city, the official brought him along.”
In the first instance, Soros’s warnings may have saved lives. In the second, Soros was taken along while the inventory was being done. He had no part in either the inventory or the later confiscation – and no cause for feeling guilt.
Uh, Joseph… one big problem with using Wikipedia as a primary source. Anyone can edit it. I could rewrite Soros’ entry to make him seem like Mother Teresa, Gandhi, and Ronald Reagan combined, but that doesn’t make it true.
Soros’ own words, and those of his officially authorized biographer are far more reliable, I think.
Soros is notorious for his Wikileaks operation. His minions probably write 90% of it.
Soros is the high priest of leftism. This is a movement that has no soul.
Leftists are a godless people not solely because they believe there is no “invisible man up in the sky”, but because they are so arrogant, they refuse to believe that there is an intelligence above their own.
Ironically, they are so often wrong on so many issues, the truth becomes an impediment of its own. They need to invent prizes, awards, fetes and festivals to their own self-glorification. (Only in Hollywood, for instance, could there exist five awards presentations for the same lame and inferior work produced year after year. Cannes, Golden Globes, Oscar, Emmy, SAG). Don’t these people ever get tired of the Feast of Narcissus, gorging themselves on the adoration of twits, by twits, for twits?
The talent and subsequent product is such weak tea, they now have to nominate every single movie and all the “top stars”, just to pump up interest in the crapology that oozes out of the place.
Similarly, the NYTimes, Newsweek, and all the leftist rags are going broke. Morally bankrupt rabid ideologues becoming fiscally bankrupt ideologues seems to have a near one to one correlation.
Soros is the exception that proves the rule. In the church of Rabid Leftism, Soros is willing to steal from anyone, by any means necessary. He is willing to promote lies, conspire to bring down democracy, assist in sending people to their brutal deaths, trade on stolen and ill gotten gains. He is the physical embodiment of Rabid Leftism. No conscience, no soul, no ethics, no morals…it marches inexorably toward the tearing down of goodness in every corner of the globe.
Never in the course of human history has there been such a clear choice between the paths to follow. And the day of choosing is upon us.
Oh poor me, and I thought he was a philanthropist running an eleemosynary institution for the blind and the mentally challenged.
“He knew very well; he had learned from the rabbis of Budapest — the same rabbis who were put to death by Eichmann with a lot of help from Hungarian Jews, like George Soros.”
This is obscene. Don’t be an idiot.
I see a lot of parallels between Soros and his actions (as a teen as well as an adult) and the hard left and their actions today. The story is the same in my eyes. Anything goes with these people and they have no conscience about those who fall victim to their ideology. As long as they get what they want to shape the world to their vision, then nothing is too disgusting for them. People are expendable to them. Why God keeps this old devil alive is beyond me. Maybe there is a lesson for us all e.g., the damage this man has done to mankind in his long and bitter life.
“Eichmann arrived in Budapest a mere four days after the German tanks. In the span of only two months, German efficiency coupled with Hungarian collaboration managed to “deport” 437,402 Jews, and all but 15,000 went to Auschwitz. A full ¾ of all Hungarian Jews perished in the Holocaust; one in every three killed at Auschwitz was a Hungarian Jew.”
It is amazing that there was a preponderance of Hungarian Jews among the physicists on the Manhatten Project. Teller, Szilard, many whose names I can’t recall right now, were crucial in the effort to curtail the war in the Pacific Theater. There were so many Hungarian physicists that some of the Manhatten project meetings could be carried out in the Hungarian language, when the few non-speakers were not present.
I can save you a lot of ink and brain energy Ms. Shiver.
George Soros is a psychopath.
“If I didn’t so it, someone else would have.” is also the excuse he gave for making millions by trying to collapse the American market when it reopened after the 9/11 attacks.
Blah, blah, blah……he still has his money, power and influence; even when the Republicans were in control of Congress and the White House. You can write all you want about this miscreant, but nothing is going to change in his world. However, I wish you luck.
One has to wonder why the fixation on Jewishness when for Soros himself it is meaningless.
Is it the wonderment that a single Jew would abandon his faith in such times? That a single Jew would act despicably?
Perhaps those Christians who condemn and scrutinize Soros would find their time better spent examining those elements of their own faith that allowed an entire continent to become a murder machine?
After all while there are those who vociferously deny that the Nazis and their collaborators where Christian there is no denial that they were the sons and daughters of Christians.
I make no excuses for Soros. However this obsession with Soros’ failure as a Jew pales in comparison with the millions of non-Jews who were truly responsible for the murder of millions and their failure as Christians.
The “Fixation” as you call it is the extraordinary revulsion we feel when we hear of mothers murdering their children or fathers and sons killing each other. Ordinary people have feelings of loyalty to their associates, whether that affinity is family, faith or culture.
So your attempt to change the subject, to the guilt you wish to lay on Christians for the Holocaust is not only disingenuous, it’s repulsive.
” The “Fixation” as you call it is the extraordinary revulsion we feel when we hear of mothers murdering their children or fathers and sons killing each other. ”
I have never heard discussion of the religions of those people enter into the discussion. Nor would I compare the wonton act of child murder by a deranged parent to that of murder committed at gunpoint, in other words induced by another holding a gun to ones head.
” Ordinary people have feelings of loyalty to their associates, whether that affinity is family, faith or culture. ”
We are all members of the human race. And most murders are committed either by family members or people from the same community.
“So your attempt to change the subject, to the guilt you wish to lay on Christians for the Holocaust is not only disingenuous, it’s repulsive. ”
I am not changing the subject just pointing out the truth. You may not wish to think about acknowledge it but it is true nonetheless. Christian guilt is obvious.
The nazi’s were pagans – not Christians. Like Soros rejecting his Judaism these people rejected their Judeo-Christian heritage.
God has no grandchildren. In Christianity, it matters not at all whether one’s father was Paul the Apostle or one’s mother was Mother Teresa, if the person never accepts Christ, they are quite simply not a Christian. One’s father could also be Jack the Ripper and one’s mother Lucrezia Borgia, and if one accepts Christ, that person is just as Christian as any other.
I understand that with the lack of understanding most Jews have about Christianity, and the fact that Judaism does follow the idea that heritage is determinant, you might not have understood that. That is not your fault, and I do not blame you for not understanding it. But take it from this Christian lay preacher, it is true.
Therefore, attempting to equate the Nazis with Christianity because of who their parents were is absolutely incorrect, and somewhat insulting to good Christians everywhere.
I would also ask you to remember all the Christians of America, Great Britain, New Zealand, Australia, and the other Allied countries who spilled blood, lost limbs, and even lost lives in order to stop the Nazis.
Please consider carefully before replying.
Regarding this theme: here is an article that can shed some light on the matter of Christians being accused of collaboration with Hitler.
http://casorosendi-opinion.blogspot.com/2008/08/its-season-to-accuse.html
http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm
” God has no grandchildren. In Christianity, it matters not at all whether one’s father was Paul the Apostle or one’s mother was Mother Teresa, if the person never accepts Christ, they are quite simply not a Christian. One’s father could also be Jack the Ripper and one’s mother Lucrezia Borgia, and if one accepts Christ, that person is just as Christian as any other.”
We are all G-ds children. You are simply making excuses. A tree is judged by its fruit.
” I understand that with the lack of understanding most Jews have about Christianity, and the fact that Judaism does follow the idea that heritage is determinant, you might not have understood that. That is not your fault, and I do not blame you for not understanding it. But take it from this Christian lay preacher, it is true. ”
There is no ” lack of understanding “. We have had 1500 years of education.
” Therefore, attempting to equate the Nazis with Christianity because of who their parents were is absolutely incorrect, and somewhat insulting to good Christians everywhere. ”
I said that the Nazis were , overwhelmingly, the sons and daughters of Christians. Those are simple facts. you can not whitewash them.
” I would also ask you to remember all the Christians of America, Great Britain, New Zealand, Australia, and the other Allied countries who spilled blood, lost limbs, and even lost lives in order to stop the Nazis. ”
They spilled blood based upon self interest not humanitarian concern for saving Jewish lives.
“They spilled blood based upon self interest not humanitarian concern for saving Jewish lives.”
Wow, just wow. I am so glad my father is not still alive to read such a statement. I am offended by this generalization, you did not know my father who served in WWII for 2.5 years and all the reasons he fought for his country and for others. My uncle never came home, another loss in the name of self interest?
Leigh, I am not referring to the individual sacrifice of any Allied soldiers.
I am referring to the motivation of the sovereign nations to enter the conflict.
You missed (or ignored) the main point.
In Christianity, it doesn’t matter at all whether one’s parents were the greatest of saints or the worst of sinners. Each person must come to Christ on his or her own, or they are not a Christian. Period.
You cannot find a single example of Christian theology saying that Christianity is passed down by heritage, but I’ll challenge you to find it. Remember, I said Christian theology… I know Judaism is rife with it, but it simply does not exist in Christian theology.
I tried being polite about it, but now you have my dander up. It seems you’re nothing more than a Christian hater, and that offends me deeply, because I have always had a great love and reverence for the Jewish people.
” In Christianity, it doesn’t matter at all whether one’s parents were the greatest of saints or the worst of sinners. Each person must come to Christ on his or her own, or they are not a Christian. Period. ”
You have the luxury of saying if someone meets your standards they are a ” christian ” and if they do not, they are not. Children who are taught to hate, hate.
” You cannot find a single example of Christian theology saying that Christianity is passed down by heritage, but I’ll challenge you to find it. Remember, I said Christian theology… I know Judaism is rife with it, but it simply does not exist in Christian theology. ”
If by heritage you mean genetically you are right. However if you are talking about the process of teaching children in homes and churches you are wrong.
“I tried being polite about it, but now you have my dander up. It seems you’re nothing more than a Christian hater, and that offends me deeply, because I have always had a great love and reverence for the Jewish people”.
Your dander is your business and a Cristian hater I am not. That you are deeply offended reveals much. I am under no moral obligation to respect your religious doctrine- I do have a moral obligation to respect your right to them. Would that Christians accepted that same humanistic approach. Jews ask for neither love or reverence. We just want the same respect granted to others with ease. And if my position, which offends you so much, interferes with your positive view of Jews, then shame on you. After all I am just one guy posting on a message board not a spokesman for the Jews of the world. Jews have has 1500 years of ” christian love ” burned into our history. From burning us alive in our synagogues to turning us into lampshades and soap has left its mark.
Let me leave you with a bit of Christian wisdom. It has been expunged from Catholic liturgy however it will stand forever as the prayer of a truly honest and G-d fearing man….
” We are conscious today that many centuries of blindness have cloaked our eyes so that we can no longer see the beauty of Thy chosen people, nor recognize in their faces the features of our privileged brethren. We realize that the mark of Cain stands on our foreheads. Across the centuries our Brother Abel has lain in blood which we drew or shed tears we caused forgetting Thy love. Forgive us for the curse we falsely attached to their name as Jews. Forgive us for crucifying Thee a second time in their flesh. For we knew no what we did…”
Pope John XIII
Now no Christian can claim they don’t know. It is their obligation before G-d to examine and search for the truth. To deny the past, to deny the truth, to turn a blind eye, is to be complicate. For that their is no salvation.
Clearly you are too subsumed with hatred–yes, I said hatred, and I use the word advisedly–against Christians to be able to see simple logic.
I’d pray that God would open your eyes, but I already know He will sooner or later… if not in this life, then in the next.
” I’d pray that God would open your eyes, but I already know He will sooner or later… if not in this life, then in the next.”
“The Eternal has made Himself known, executing judgment… The wicked will return to the grave — all nations who forget God.” (Ps. 9:17-18)
One reason the German people were so susceptible to anti-semitism is because they were mainly Lutherans, as in followers of Martin Luther, a rabid anti-semite who preached killing the Jew wherever they were found. Hitler took this predisposition to anti-semitism to new and unimaginable heights. But the pump was already well primed and had been for centuries.
Wow! You really don’t “get” Christians at all. Like the other fellow, I’m glad my dad, grandfather and all my uncles are dead and not able to see the filth you just wrote.
The only ” filth ” is the attempt to hide from the truth.
Menachem, thru your own logic of “The Nazi’s parents were Christians so Naziism was borne of Christianity” means that the Jews are responsible for the holocaust because they were taught Judaism and still helped the Nazis. You see how that works now?
Please research these names Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Edith Stein, and Maximilian Kolbe. Then you can talk.
I know each and every one. What makes them notable is not only their bravery and sacrifice but how very few of them there were. There were indeed thousands of brave christian souls. They would be the first to acknowledge how truly small a minority they were. Millions more had the blood of innocents on their hands.
The way I would put it is that while Nazi-ism was not Christian, it nonetheless grew out of a tradition of Christian antisemitism and apocalyptic Utopianism. If a Christian today says that for him Christianity is only properly realized as a transcendence of that antisemitic tradition, in full recognition of the structure of Christianity as a historical reaction to Judaism, i am hopeful.
But it is hard for people fully to move beyond a Judeophobic worldview. When we, Jews and non-Jews, respond to the Holocaust by entertaining or aggrandizing ourselves with narratives, not very different from the kinds of Judeophobic narratives told in the early 20thC., but in which Nazis now play the role of “the jew”, the Satanic figure who gives our story a sense of meaning and moral closure, have we really gained much moral ground? I share MBY’s concern with what appears to be a dubious need to use Soros as a Satanic hate figure. But it is not just Christian writers. I have read various Jewish writers who are usually quite sensitive about leftist Judeophobia focussing our desire to hate Soros by using every theme in the leftist book, portraying him as the quintessential evil manipulator of the markets, the “invisible hand” behind some great conspiracy. As if one man is exceptionally responsible for much that is going wrong in the world, as the representative or leading figure of the ethical outcasts…
” . When we, Jews and non-Jews, respond to the Holocaust by entertaining or aggrandizing ourselves with narratives, not very different from the kinds of Judeophobic narratives told in the early 20thC., but in which Nazis now play the role of “the jew”, the Satanic figure who gives our story a sense of meaning and moral closure, have we really gained much moral ground? ”
Pure nonsense. First the story must told and the lessons learned irregardless of the individuals respose, self aggrandizement or otherwise. Second, there is nothing ” demonic ” in Judaism and everything about Naziism is truly demonic. To claim the Nazis were not truly Satanic figures is to not understand at all.
Well, i guess i didn’t make the point well. It’s not that the Nazis weren’t Satanic, or that the story shouldn’t be told. Of course it must be. But, the Holocaust does pose a profound challenge of how to tell and consume stories. On the one hand, it doesn’t work just to portray Nazis as soap opera scapegoats; the Nazis were Satanic on an incredible scale, and for just that reason our cheap and easy Satan figures, the one bad guy on whom we can all focus, don’t work; and few dare attempt a “realistic” Satan if this would be to represent the millions of unexceptional Nazi evil doers in terms of some exceptional esthetic figure. On the other hand it doesn’t work to portray the Nazis’ victims in the traditions of tragic high culture either because we are talking about millions whose stories cannot be so represented by the singular (nor do we wish to see Nazi antagonists in the traditional tragic form). Documentaries can pile up the facts, but works of fiction face a challenge for a new kind of story telling that only a few have really succeeded in developing, generally by focussing on stories of survival. The Holocaust has destroyed faith in specifically high cultural esthetics as the means to satisfactorily redeem our collective violence. Neither Nazis nor their victims can be so redeemed, in full esthetic seriousness. That’s why pop culture now reigns and the Nazi bad guys are often almost laughable. THe story has to be told but don’t think there isn’t a limit to how that’s done. The horror of modernity is that there is something to Arendt’s banality of evil and that is not something we really know how to portray in fictions, if even in careful works of history and philosophy. Our understanding must grow from many sources.
Teenage Jewish boys were not taken to Jewish homes by SS to keep the Nazis company as Soros’ biography contends. These boys were used to identify hiding Jews and their hidden wealth. The Jews went to Auschwitz and other death camps. This contemptible scenario was not limited to Soros or to Hungary. He carried an ID issued by the SS and we’re supposed to believe he was naive and innocent?
Katie Marton has written “The Great Escape” about 9 Hungarian Jews, men from both science and the arts who left Budapest and went on to live very productive lives. They included such men as John Von Neumann. Edward Teller, Michael Curtiz, Alexander Korda, Frank Capa and others who were not obsessed with destruction of persons or things. Perhaps Soros was not acceptable in their circle. Maybe his talent for making vast amounts of money was not valued by them or obvious at that stage in his life. Being a nasty villain was not the only option a young Jew had in that era..
During the war he was a terrified/excited boy struggling to survive. Fine. I can believe that. (Adult soldiers,also,often describe war as the most exhilarating time of their lives.) And,not having walked in his shoes, I can also believe that permanant Stockholm syndrome stamps his psychology.
Also truly despicable are those hypocrite Gentiles who mock and sneer at the frantic,desparate Jews of the Holocaust while declining to examine their own complicit/homicidal behavior then and their despicable,smug self-righteousness now.
The bottom line for me is this: Now he is an adult whose machinations around the world are directed to, among other things, the final solution/destruction of Israel as well as the destruction of a free America living the ideals embodied in the US constitution and leading the rest of the world to liberty and prosperity. And Obama is one of his tools.
you are so right in your analogy.
Let’s not forget that Soros has been convicted in Hungary of market manipulation of his activies in the last half of 2008.
He caused the world-wide economic meltdown, or, at least, was a major participant in that con job.
Of course, this can never be even hinted at in the west. Indeed, no major “journalis” or political figure is even curious about what happened in those 6 months. Economic cataclysms that nearly destroy the world economy aren’t really anything we should be looking into, other than to say, with no evidence, that they are the main result of capitalism.
Beck has mentioned those facts quite a bit on his radio and television broadcasts which is probably a big reason why Soros (aka “spooky dude™”) has been [unsuccessfully] trying to get Beck removed from Fox News. Alllllllllll that moula and Beck is still there. bwahahahahahahaha!
Well, if there are those who object to bringing up Soros’s teenage years, no one seems to be bringing the the fact that he was found guilty of insider trading in France, of which he had to pay a hefty fine. Of course he denies the charges and is appealing the verdict in (where else), the European Court of “Human Rights.” It was, at least, a decade long investigation. The prosecutors wanted to get all their “ducks in a row.” I’m sure he is using all his money and charm to sway the court in his favor. If he wins the reversal of this conviction, then it will be a sad day for the prosecutors of this case, and for true justice throughout this world. There were investors who lost everything because of this crime that was committed. As a final word on this, I leave you with a qoute from an interview Soros did with David Brancaccio, who asked, “Do you see a thread that links your childhood experience with your career as a financier, with your philanthropy, and now political activist?” Soros responce was, “Oh a very strong thread,that leads right through. You know, I learned at a very early age that what kind of social system or political system prevails is very improtant. Not just for your well- being, but for your very survival.” Just juxtapose his comment with his activities and shenanighans and you can pretty much see where this “man” is coming from.
While it is now fashionable in certain precincts of the right to pillory George Soros, one would do well to remember that “fun-house mirror versions” of Soros, Bush, Obama, and a host of others, whether on the left or the right, are usually distorted. I encountered the work of Soros in the 1980s, when his Open Society Foundation was helping Eastern and Central Europeans to recover from the ravages of communism. His foundation spent hundreds of millions of dollars on initiatives in such areas as the rule of law, democratic governance, and other civil society programs. His influence in that part of the world is seldom noted by too many of our contemporary journalists, who increasingly squint at reality through the limiting templates of socialist and capitalist, liberal and conservative, black hats and white hats. Most of life is not quite that simple. In any event, good works are good works, and Soros can take credit for a huge number of them in Europe after the fall of the Wall. You can look it up.
I don’t think anyone has ever denied that George Soros did indeed help finance burgeoning democratic movements (NGOs) in the former Soviet Bloc.
However, I doubt historians would agree with Soros’ contention that the former Soviet Empire ought now be called “the Soros Empire” due to what Soros (again the egomaniac) claimed was his single handedly bringing down the iron curtain. Historians still tend to regard Reagan, Thatcher and Pope John Paul II’s actions of primary importance in that grand achievement.
It ought to be noted also that Soros’ democracy support was well rewarded in the financial meltdown which occurred there in the late 90s. When the House Banking committee investigated the literal disappearance of more than $100 billion of IMF loan money and the rigged auction scandal that made lots of Russians and American “investors” rich, they determined through his own testimony that Soros was part of the insider trading. Soros admitted in house testimony that he had acquired a huge stake in Sidanco Oil (a Russian company with more reserves than Mobil Oil) through illegal insider trading. The deal was supposed to be closed to foreign investors, but Soros used his high profile with the Clintons to pull it off anyway. In fact, Soros was so tight with the Clintons that he told Charlie Rose in another famous interview that he and the Clintons “worked as a team.”
You can look this up too.
Too bad Russia Gate was quickly pushed under the Monica-Gate rug, or we might have been able to put a stop to Soros’ machinations then and there.
Soros as innocent philanthropist? One would need to be as dumb as a Democrat to buy that one.
Soros is an individual of exceptional ability who grew up under circumstances that can only be dimly understood in a rational sense. We cannot condemn the 12 year old yet he is far past that.
Although he did seek out the Judaism denied to him by his family for a time he did not find his place there. For Jews it is possible to find meaning in belonging to the people Israel even with philosophical doubts. In fact that is a strong current among Jews. I think he found only rejection there for whatever reason.
At such a formative age and with guidance which rejected any sort of ethnic or religious identity he learned only to rely on self interest. For such a conflicted personality with exceptional intellect that could only manifest itself in extremes. He does not think of himself as part of a greater whole, he is a master of the universe.
Why do some of us engage in armchair psychology of Soros? Because that is all we can do. He is another force to deal with. I think he hates the Jews although he cannot admit it. J Street is nothing like a grassroots Jewish movement. They can grab some soft writers from huffpo and aljezeera like MJ Rosenberg who blogs on Yom Kippur. Paid shills give these no talent folks a byline and they will write for nothing.
Anyway Soros is the Hugh Heffner of the Jewish political world. You still have money but you are not fooling anybody with those 20 year old matching twins.
Maybe the sociopath is a kind of predator we need to keep Mankind from being too stupid. so old George might be a good thing, somehow. the concept might need a little work.
Soros is an utter and absolute control freak. Besides his own enrichment, his driving motive in life is to run the whole rest of the world the way he sees fit. Nowhere do we see this more clearly than in his obsessive funding and promotion of population control, and indeed, of anything that will reduce global population — and hence, make it more manageable by George Soros and others of his ilk! In the way of all malignant narcissists, he believes that his ideas, and ONLY his ideas, are the right ones, which must be imposed — by force if necessary — on everyone else.
http://westforwestwing2012.com/2010/11/30/climate-change-the-real-agenda/
Too many prostitutes out there…
Willing and eager to take that old man’s money
(including ads such as General Betrayus in the NYTimes and a more recent full page $100,000 ad in the WSJ attacking Foxnews and Glenn Beck, sponsored by 400 rabbis for George)
Georgie (“the spooky dude”) is obsessed with finding a way to shut Beck up.
Why someone who made it a habit of turning in Jewish families to the Nazis so he could rob their homes would dare use the old “you’re a Nazi” card, I’ll never know
And you think that’s what soros did?
It is well documented that Soros, as a young teen in Nazi-occupied Hungary, ran around as part of a youth street gang, handing out deportation cards to Jewish families, and even ratted out several families; he would then break into the families’ homes after they were taken away by the Nazis, and steal and sell their belongings.
It’s well-documented, is it?
Ok. Prove it. Provide some references. I think you’re full of it, and you’re repeating slanders because it’s cheap and easy. I doubt you’ve even checked your facts. Well, here’s your chance – prove that what you just said was true. And here’s a challenge: Give us primary sources. Don’t bother quoting people like beck, I’m sick of debunking his claims. Give me actual facts – quotes from people who were there, eye-witness, interviews.
And if you CAN’T do that, think about why that might be, and whether you’ve been lied to.
Try reading SOROS’ OWN F***ING biography, in which he ADMITS to handing out deportation papers, some of which were forged, for the Nazis…then re-entering the home after the family was deported to loot valuables, that he was supposed to be cataloguing for the Nazis. He eventually became a member of the Judenrat
Soros admits that though his family was Jewish by heritage, they despised their heritage, and proudly and rabidly engaged in antisemitic activities
When asked about the experience during a “60 Minutes” interview:
Q:”…that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?”
SOROS: “Not, not at all. Not at all, I rather enjoyed it.”
Q: “No feeling of guilt?”
SOROS: “No, only feelings of absolute power…1944 was the best year of my life”
By his own admittance…by definition, Soros was a Nazi collaborator – period. That is simply undebatable.
How’s that first-hand account for you, dipshit?
Your tongue is so far up the Leftist collective @$$hole, you can taste what they ate for breakfast.
Some 14 year olds would resist the Nazis and some would not. To most of us it is more understandable when a child does not resist then when an adult doesn’t. Soros didn’t as a 14 year old, but any adult with a good conscience would probably have regret about helping the Nazis as a child and be disappointed that he or she did not find a way to resist them regardless of how realistic it was at the time. The fact that Soros doesn’t express that regret, even today, tells you a lot about who he is. His justification for his behavior, “someone else would have”, is beyond lame. He also has no problem expressing his belief in his superiority to others, which is an attribute he shares with the Nazis.
It is far worse than that. Soros admits that the feeling of absolute power, and being a Judenrat was great, and that 1944 was the “best year of his life”
Great article. Reminds me of Christs’ words from Matthew: 16: 24 – 28
Then Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever wishes to come after me must deny himself, take up his cross, and follow me. For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake will find it. What profit would there be for one to gain the whole world and forfeit his life? Or what can one give in exchange for his life? For the Son of Man will come with his angels in his Father’s glory, and then he will repay everyone according to his conduct. Amen, I say to you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”
Accuse others of what you do…perfected by Soros
LORD HAVE MERCY!
Happy Valentine’s Day K~A
GOProud n Soros you go girl!
” Neither Nazis nor their victims can be so redeemed, in full esthetic seriousness. ”
A truly repugnant statement. For the former their is no redemption. For the latter none is required.
“For the latter none is required.” Are you kidding me?
If Christian’s taught Nazi’s (LONG before there were ever Nazis) and therefore Naziism is based on Christianity, then why aren’t the Jews responsible for the Holocaust? Or do you even think there was one?
*sniff* Why are you a Nazi sympathizer Menachem?
Yawn. All hat no cattle. Find someone willing to provide more attention. Not I.
Boy, I’m glad you cleared that up. Naziism is Christianity because of someone else’s beliefs, but that dont translate into Jews are Nazis because they HELPED the Nazis commit the Holocaust. You sir are a DEEP thinker. Typical leftist. Are you a Jew hater too – like Soros?
No matter how often you change your screen name you are who you are. Stop wasting our time.
Soros knew the consequences of what he was doing. I remember being 14 years old perfectly well, and while I could have been forced into doing something like this to save my life, there’s no way in hell it wouldn’t leave me–OR ANY OTHER NORMAL PERSON–absolutely sick and ashamed to remember such a thing as an adult.
Like most Jews my age, I’ve known a fair amount of survivors or those who managed to avoid being swept up into the camps, and their stories are far more horrifying than anything Soros went through. Inedeed, his very sanguinity about the whole period makes me suspicious that he isn’t covering up a whole hell of a lot.
A man who says that he doesn’t fell any moral scruples about doing something evil–and please tell me there’s no one here who feels he acted morally–because if he didn’t do it, someone else would have, is a man who is telling you something very clear and very evil about his character. Note that he speaks in the present tense.
Soros is a Baha’i.. an Esperanto speaking Baha’i..
this explains his motives.. progressive revelation = erase the Jews and Jewish Christ forever..
http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/tmp/5D1FFR01.pdf
In 1966 a district-court judge enjoined the Hereditary Guard-
ianship from using the trademarked names and symbols of
the National Spiritual Assembly. Within months the
Hereditary Guardianship dissolved, and the dissenting
faithful thereafter disagreed among themselves over issues
of spiritual leadership and doctrine. This disagreement
eventually produced a second schism. Over time the
former followers of the Hereditary Guardianship estab-
lished several new religious groups and a publishing firm,
all operating in varying ways in the name of the Bahá’í
faith.
Forty years later, the National Spiritual Assembly
returned to the district court and asked for contempt
sanctions against several of these groups and their princi-
pals for allegedly violating the terms of the 1966 injunction.
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Sorry it’s disjointed, PDF text… anyhow..
anyone else know of a supposedly ‘universal’ faith that trademarks it’s names and symbols? Not only that, but gets a Judge to decide a supposed universal faith CAN trademark it’s name and symbols?
Have fun with this one.. it might go to the supremes
No he isn’t. He’s an atheist. Where DO you get this rubbish from?
And what’s the significance of esperanto?
Stop sniffing solvents. Really.
fyi, Soros has never stated his faith or lack thereof…
please point me to the Soros “I’m a flaming atheist” statement..
you are speculating as I am.. I just have the better explanation, that’s all
From the famous 1998 60-minutes interview:
KROFT: Are you religious?
Mr. SOROS: No.
KROFT: Do you believe in God?
Mr. SOROS: No.
KROFT: (Voiceover) Soros told us he believes God was created by man, not the other way around, which may be why he thinks he can smooth out the world?s imperfections.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_soros#Education_and_beliefs
“At the same time, I do believe that attitudes toward Israel are influenced by Israel’s policies, and attitudes toward the Jewish community are influenced by the pro-Israel lobby’s success in suppressing divergent views.”
Blaming the Jews for quranic hate that he is clearly aware of shows his progressive revelation mindset.. What rational person supports the abject misery of islam over modern Israel? Why does he want muslims to win the civilizational war? How can an admitted fallibilist (that anything he believes may in fact be wrong, and is therefore to be questioned and improved) not question the ‘hell on earth’ that islam brings to humans?
Only one way.. faith in something larger than himself.. a faith that allows slavery held as holy when convenient.. a faith that creates a super low carbon society without need for central control..
Did I mention that Agenda 21 and the Earth Charter are based on bahai principles?
Oh man you should read up sometime..
btw.. George Soros can lie too…
Good job though with the quick research for the thread..
you sure showed me..
Anonymous:
I have no idea how you think that was relevant.
Van Grungy:
“btw.. George Soros can lie too…”
As far as I can tell, you are the only person on the planet who thinks george soros is anything other than an atheist. It’s one of the things the religious right hates about him. He’s never shown any sign of expressing any other position, and I can’t see why he’d hide subscribing to any other faith – and it’s not like the bahai are public enemy number one (outside of iran). I can’t see what evidence you have to think he’s lying.
“Good job though with the quick research for the thread..”
Maybe if you did some research we wouldn’t need to have this discussion. I’m happy to back up my statements with facts. They’re not hard to find. Give it a try.
“you sure showed me..”
And it’s only just begun.
“And it’s only just begun.”
troll dork… lol
When Soros says man made God, he is telling the truth according to bahai principles… allah is the bahai god..
To a bahai like soros, the God of the Bible is a corruption and a fraud..
just saying..
“As far as I can tell, you are the only person on the planet who thinks george soros is anything other than an atheist.”
I know eh.. what’s up with that?
You are going to have to thank Maurice Strong for inspiring me to wonder about his bestest buddy George…
Isn’t it funny how their initials = SS? I think so..
Actually, Soros is one of the few living native Esperanto speakers. And yes, it is a movement still. Soros gave his biographer lots of personal tidbits from his own life relating to Esperanto and the “cosmopolitan faith” that goes along with it.
Soros’ father adopted Esperanto while in a POW camp in Russia during WWI. By the time he returned home, Tividar (his new Esperanto name) Soros (also Esperanto) was immersed in his new found religion. Soros’ father accepted much support for his family from his wife’s well-to-do parents, while he ran an Esperanto newspaper/magazine in Budapest.
Soros was going to attend an Esperanto conference in Switzerland at the end of the war, when he fortuitously slipped beneath the descending iron curtain — without travel documents. He also recounts that the first real friends he made in Britain were fellow Esperantists. Also, when Soros became deeply depressed during his early years in Britain, he relieved his sorrows by speaking in the Esperanto corner in London parks.
Soros gives quite a significant place to Esperanto in his own account of his life. The one-world religion of his father became his own. He has never renounced it. And yes, it is a godless religion, based on the belief that cultures must blend, speak the same language and banish the divisions caused by tribal loyalties and God-based religions.
Soros has never tried to hide this important facet of this life.
“And yes, it is a godless religion, based on the belief that cultures must blend, speak the same language and banish the divisions caused by tribal loyalties and God-based religions.”
I’m just saying.. pretending to be atheist comes easy to people who make it their business to be religious ambassadors…
I will point out this little tid bit of Esperanto history..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L._L._Zamenhof
Zamenhof and his wife Klara raised three children, a son, Adam, and two daughters, Sofia and Lidia. All three were murdered in the Holocaust.[8]
Lidia Zamenhof in particular took a keen interest in Esperanto, and as an adult became a teacher of the language, traveling through Europe and to America to teach classes in it. Through her friendship with Martha Root, Lidia accepted Bahá’u’lláh and became a member of the Bahá’í faith. As one of its social principles, the Bahá’í faith teaches that an auxiliary world language should be selected by the representatives of all the world’s nations.
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Pretending to be an atheist is a great way to throw people off the underlying ‘faith’ that drives and guides Soros…
If a man has no conscience about mass slaughter.. a little lie like pretending to be atheist is nothing to a sociopath like Soros..
or.. maybe he is atheist.. but his actions and patterns strongly suggest he works by bahai principles
Sorry for the late response, but I just noticed this now and felt some things needed to be said, even if they may never read.
Esperanto is, and has always been, a language – not a religion, not a social order, not a political movement – a complete and living language that is easy to learn for everyone. As such, it is well suited as a common *second* language – in addition to, not instead of, each one’s first language and, where applicable, community language – in order to facilitate communications between people who don’t share a common language. No one-world-language, no one-world-order, not even a guarantee of peace, just easier communication and all the benefits that go along with it.
Competent Esperanto speakers number in the couple of million. There is as much variety of thought, belief and conviction among them as in any other language community of comparable or larger size. The existence of less-than-angelic Esperanto speakers, past or present, says no more about Esperanto or its speakers in general than does the existence of English-speaking American monsters like Ted Bundy, John Gacy, Charles Manson, Ted Kaczinsky and Jeffrey Dahmer about American English or Americans in general. Each Esperanto speaker is a free agent who answers to and for him- or herself; the beliefs, choices and actions of each Esperanto speaker are his or hers, not those of Esperanto or its community of speakers. The Esperanto community is large enough for interest groups and movements to form within it, but they, like the convictions of individual speakers, belong to those speakers who freely choose to associate with them.
More to the point: Anyone can make a religion of anything, including Esperanto. However, the fact that some may have done so with Esperanto is no indictment of Esperanto and its speakers. The truth is that the vast majority of Esperanto speakers are just people who, among many other things, happen to speak Esperanto. They are of all religions, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Hindu, atheist, areligious, and every other conviction or lack thereof one could imagine, just like people in general. They are of all socio-political persuasions, conservative, liberal, libertarian, monarchist, anarchist, and everything else in between, just like people in general. In fact, Esperanto associations for all these and many other currents of thought exist. The *only* generalization one can make about Esperanto speakers is that they speak the language Esperanto.
Having said all that, certain ideals do tend to be frequent among Esperanto speakers. One is that Esperanto would be well suited, as mentioned above, as a common, easy-to-learn *second* language to facilitate communication between people of different native tongues – not a replacement one-world-language, but a supplement, to be used in addition to native languages. Another is that existing languages are a treasure to be protected, that no language should ever be threatened or replaced by another, certainly not by Esperanto. Yet another is that different cultures and countries are also of great value and worth preserving. These ideals are totally incongruous with the “one-world… godless religion, based on the belief that cultures must blend, speak the same language and banish the divisions caused by tribal loyalties and God-based religions” that Esperanto at large is often claimed to be. Again, those may be the ideals of some individuals, but not of Esperanto or its community of speakers.
George Soros is not the patron saint of Esperanto. True, his father was an avid Esperanto speaker, he grew up speaking Esperanto, and he made use of it during his stint in the U.K. However, he abandoned it in favor of English when he moved from the U.K. to the U.S. Since then, he has had no active involvement with the language or its community. Later in life, he spoke favorably of his Esperanto past, but it remains that: a long-past chapter. He has made that clear, as in an interview with Spanish newspaper El País at http://www.elpais.com/articulo/portada/SOROS/millonario/queria/ser/filosofo/elpeputec/20080921elpepspor_7/Tes , when he stated, “No, I don’t speak [Esperanto], but I did, and could do so again. It is a fascinating language, a fascinating invention, but right now it is of no use. Its role as a universal language has been replaced by English – poorly spoken English, but that is the universal language that we have now.” Hardly the words of an Esperanto-worshipper.
Kyle-Anne, think what you will of individual speakers of Esperanto. But please don’t make the mistake of conflating them with the entire community of speakers or the language they speak. For what it’s worth, I happen to be a devoutly Christian conservative, and yet a speaker of Esperanto. Other Esperanto speakers with whom I have interacted, who do not all share my religious or political convictions, are decent people, undeserving of the insinuations all too often leveled against them.
You don’t have to take my word for any of this – you can see for yourself by learning Esperanto, then finding and getting to know other Esperanto speakers and their writings. http://www.lernu.net is a good place to start.
The only think this thread successfully demonstrates is that the US has no effective libel laws.
See the story of the sun papers in canada – they tried claiming the stuff in this article and they were sued, and retracted their claims. Why? Because it’s all a load of rubbish.
It’s the libwit dream, isn’t it.
Censorship, with you as the judge.
Not at all. It’s just that most people think that somebody whose reputation has been attacked should be allowed to defend it, and force somebody to admit when they’ve lied. That’s a principle that holds in most western countries – it’s only the US that allows the press to publish outright slander with impunity.
I personally think the law goes too far in some countries. I think it’s probably a bit too hard to sue for defamation in the UK, and far too easy in australia.
Wear it proudly Matthew. I much prefer marxists who state their opinion forthrightly.
If the moron did the same, he would be bussing tables in Hawaii, if he was lucky.
Are you kidding? the UK has some of the easiest slander laws in the world – you can sue people left and right for the slightest affront in the UK. British tabloids are constantly being taken to court to slander, and more often than not, lose.
Canada has very weak ‘freedom of expression’ rights available to her Citizens. The very wealthy get away with lawfare with ease.
It doesn’t help that Soros and Strong were encouraged to infiltrate Canadian government institutions during the evil reign of PE Trudeau.
Soros has all kinds of loyal sycophants running amok in Canada’s bureaucracy.
Soros and his progeny want the same control in the USA. That’s why he supports the destruction of Constitution and factual history. It’s the only barrier between him and his dream of total rule by elites only, forever.
Matthew,
Do your own homework.
Why was Soros raised from birth to speak a made up language? What possible purpose does it serve to have command of the Esperanto language?
Now look at the long history of bahai/esperanto intertwining.
You now have a quest.
Bullsh1t. You just made a direct claim – back it up with evidence. I say soros is an atheist. Everything published about the guy says he’s an atheist. You just said he’s bahai. What have YOU seen that makes you believe that? Don’t tell me to go find your evidence for you. That’s your job.
I have no problem with bahais, by the way. My issue here is the fairytale make-believe that passes for fact in this thread.
I read up on the bahai..
that’s all.. Know your enemy, donchaknow..
now match up the man’s actions of hate towards Israeli Jews.. Israel stands in the way of the bahai New World Order by simply existing…
bahai believe in progressive revelation and that Baha’u'allah is the Mahdi of islam… Why does that matter for bahai? Well, as long as Israel exists, Baha’u'allah is wrong about history..
This matters.. it all comes down to historical revisionism.. bahai need Jesus to be a muslim prophet only.. he can’t be allowed to exist as the Bible predicts and explains him.. Why? Because that would make mohammad a creative story teller, not a prophet.. which would make Baha’u'allah a fraud by default..
PROGRESSIVE MULTIKULTI ZEALOT… the essential definition of bahai.. and the actual stealth jihad.. the world can’t find bahai faith until all are muslim and are begging for a savior..
Is Baha’u'allah the Mahdi? Is multikulti the stealth jihad?
I think Hitler picked 1000 years as a time period for his Reich based on bahai new world order predictions..
http://reference.bahai.org/en/t/ab/SAB/sab-34.html
The substance is, that prior to the completion of a thousand years, no individual may presume to breathe a word. All must consider themselves to be of the order of subjects, submissive and obedient to the commandments of God and the laws of the House of Justice. Should any deviate by so much as a needle’s point from the decrees of the Universal House of Justice, or falter in his compliance therewith, then is he of the outcast and rejected.
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Abdul Baha is a very influential man. His work indirectly spurred the Muslim Brotherhood into existence.. Abdul was so famous and well liked that he was Knighted by the British Crown in 1920…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%60Abdu%27l-Bah%C3%A1
Anyhow, Shoghi Effendi is buried in London.. The Garudeean is the literal voice of the irrational PC AGW MC mess Progressives have made Universalism out to be..
Good for Abdul Baha.. but the faith that he spread is the perfect avenue for irrational muslim migration into the West.. Aided and abetted by the UN bahai frameworks based on the idea of the Universal House of Justice..
That is Maurice Strong’s part..
Soros is the money man..
So … a bunch of tin-foil nonsense that has nothing to do with soros (or reality, for that matter) and you type “Soros is the money man” and think that’s evidence?
Get a grip.
I have been wondering why on Pajamas Media, we never talk about Maurice Strong. Strong is mentioned fairly often on sites devoted to de-bunking the global warming hoax. See many fine articles by Tim Ball, a Canadian scientist.
These are interesting new puzzle pieces, I’m going to have to consider these connections. Thanks, Van Grungy.
Matthew,
I agree with you. Soros is an atheist. But it’s his lack of empathy that makes him truly evil. Whether he destroying lives or destroying countries it’s all just “fun” for old Georgie.
I have known many Nazis in my life. My father was a Nazi, a full fledged member of the Party and someone who knew the Fuhrer. My dad and I spoke on many occasions as he got older on the means that people used to survive in WW2. Be they Jews or Gentiles, the bottom line is that everyone grew up very fast. A ten year old boy would act like a 40 year old man, regardless of his background, or religion. Soros knew exactly what he was doing. His statement that he was only 14 years old is simply hogwash. In the Battle of Berlin,14 year old boys were facing off against hardened Russians twice their age. The age is meaningless. Jews like Soros knew even before WW2 that the only means for their continued survival was to convert to Christianity, thus many sensible Jews did exactly that. In the Jewish Museum in Berlin today there is an exhibit on the Mendelssohn family which indicates that out of 12 children born to Moses Mendelssohn 11 converted to Christianity. George Soros was already a Chrsitian before the war started, even if only in his mind.
In the Battle of Berlin,14 year old boys were facing off against hardened Russians twice their age. The age is meaningless.
I posted on this earlier. Yes, when the russians were rolling in to berlin, just about every able-bodied male was given a rifle and shoved out into the streets to stand in the way of russians. That included young teenagers and very old men. They were untrained, disorganised and it was a pointlessly futile exercise. NONE of those people chose that fate – they were drafted (i.e. threatened) by local commanders who had nothing left, and who desperately wanted to be caught by americans rather than russians.
Source: Berlin, by Antony Beevor.
Your comparison is ridiculous. Try again.
Every German regardless of age knew exactly what he was doing when facing the Russian hordes that were about to enter Berlin. These “Volk” were very well trained in the art of war and that included just about everyone, young and old alike. War creates adults out of youngsters. We have suicide bombers today that are mere teenagers. It was no different during the waning days of the Third Reich. People like George Soros and his ilk make up a minority of those jews who absolutely hate their own kind. They are the worst anti-semites when compared to others who hate the Jews. It is hard to comprehend this type of anti-semitism especially when we compare it to the Holocaust of this and previous generations. This is why it is hard for many of you to fully understand the ramifications of a George Soros. Soros is worse than any Nazi that I ever knew. At least with the Nazis you always knew where you stood in the order of things, with Soros you never know what he will throw your way.
” Jews like Soros knew even before WW2 that the only means for their continued survival was to convert to Christianity, thus many sensible Jews did exactly that. ”
Revisionist bull.
The facts are as follows-
” However, while the grandparents had been able to choose their religion, their grandchildren in the Nazi era were compulsorily classified as Jews and thus non-Aryans if at least three grandparents had been enrolled as members of a Jewish congregation (regardless if the persecuted themselves were Jews according to the Halachah [roughly meaning: Jewish by birth from a Jewish mother or by conversion], apostates, irreligionists or Christians). Thus Jews who had converted to Christianity could be regarded as especially deceitful and subversive, while Gentiles who had converted to Judaism were perceived as traitors to the “Aryan race” and were among the first to be persecuted and killed. ”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mischling
That isn’t the case at all. Soros’ uncle was pretending to be a Christian at the onset of the war, and was employed by the Nazis. Soros was sent by his father to live with his uncle. Boy Soros, with the help of his Nazi-sympathizing uncle, ratted out Jewish families in order to rob their homes after they were hauled off to camps
Soros calls for an “open society”, a transparent governing democracy. Odd isn’t it that his Soros Fund has been designed to be a secretive, off-shore enterprise that is carefully structured to avoid any oversight by the SEC or any other financial governing commission. When you have an insidious hypocrisy governing your core values, watch out!
Also quite odd is his strong promotion of legalizing pot in California as well as gay marriage, etc. My belief is that he choose to single out Bush as a canard to cover his real goal – collapsing the U.S. dollar. He makes his money by positioning himself short on economies he carefully seeks to undermine.
Putting on a white hat and pretending he is trying to help the common man while ignoring the pain he causes millions has been his M.O. since his days as a Jewish turncoat and bona fide nazi collaborator – this old dog will never change.
Just Passing Through
Nice set up try. There is no link to anything Soros himself has written that says it was the “most exciting time of his life”. Given your history of dishonest and disingenuous posting here on PJM, it’s a good bet you are well aware that the Soros quotes come from what he told his biographer, Michael Kaufman.
Ok … so supply a quote from michael kaufman. See how this works? I’m asking you to give me what soros actually said. If you don’t know what he said, then why do you believe the claim? Have you even bothered to try to check your facts, or are you just an eager consumer of beck’s BS?
proreason:
Stick to your guns Matthew. Obviously, George Soros is one of your heros.
Irrelevant drivel. Stick to the facts, please. You can either justify the things you’re claiming or you can’t. So far you’re failing to do that. Spectacularly.
‘Ok … so supply a quote from michael kaufman. See how this works?’
You’ve been puling at a lot of posters about how they should school you. Do your own research.
‘I’m asking you to give me what soros actually said.’
I care nothing for what you ask. I don’t engage sophomoric clowns. What I did do was note that your request of another poster was your usual disingenuous pap. That the ‘most exciting time of his life’ quote was what Soros’ biographer wrote, not what Soros himself wrote. Either you can’t read, or you can’t process. Either way, you are stuck in the mode of trying to morph the narrative in this thread – and this is one of your signature indications of exactly how little you have in response – into a strawman that you can then chortle about disproving.
‘If you don’t know what he said, then why do you believe the claim?’
You pompous obtuse jack@$$. I know what his biographer transcribed. You offer nothing to counter that but the inane demand that the poster show you where Soros said that.
‘Have you even bothered to try to check your facts, or are you just an eager consumer of beck’s BS?’
I fact check. You aren’t capable of that because you require that all data fit your theory that you are so much wicked smarter than anyone on PJM. I gave you his biographers name, liar. It is not Beck.
PJM is a discussion forum. Posters can be imprecise in language. What counts is that the casual reader understands their point. You don’t appear to be cogent enough to integrate points made in a general discussion. Instead, you offer a constant, anal, and self-aggrandizing whine that the posters don’t meet your demand for precision and/or show you links to information that you could easily find yourself. BS is what often, but in honesty not always, is all you have going for you. Often enough to discount you out of hand as a pompous blowhard anyway.
‘Ok … so supply a quote from michael kaufman. See how this works?’
You know, this really defines you. This ‘See how this works?’ nonsense you’ve tossed out more than a few times now. You have no problem with jumping in and claiming that only you KNOW the real deal because YOU’VE looked it up and find nothing to indicate otherwise. Someone comes back at you and tells you that you DON’T know, and tells you how to go about finding out. You then INSIST that they do the research for you. The research that you claimed that you did before telling everyone – and you do use the collective several times in this thread – how stupidly misled they are.
This is the way it works. You don’t jump into a discussion and make a complete jack@$$ of yourself claiming that you and only you have all the facts when you most assuredly don’t. Someone MAY tell you where to go to get the information to keep you from further beclowning yourself, but they are under no obligation to provide you the actual information and or go get it for you. Especially after you’ve made it most definite that you consider yourself the expert schooling the ignorant.
See how this works?
You forget one thing Kyle Anne. One repellent reality. George Soros will have his place in history, no doubt part of his ambition. Human monsters always have place in history. Example for future monsters with graphic detail to how it’s done. Hollywood and fiction writers love monsters as protagonists for stories lovingly researched and graphically demonstrated in detail for lip-smacking thrills. And how they do sell! It certainly has done Soros no harm in life. Wonder what his plans are for “his” billions at his demise, consistent with his support of other predators /hyenas. Could his “nazi” problem be his obsession to emulate Adolf Hitler another man,the Fuehrer, “above the only human”.
When I hear the defense about his age, it is another strawman for his supporters to use as an excuse for his actions. Lest we forget, in 1944, a 14 year old boy was much more mature, especially in Europe, than his counterpart would be today.
While it is accurate to say a young boy of 14 today has a broader base of knowledge, it is not accurate to say he is expected to assume the duties of a man as early as his 1944 counterpart was.
It is safe to presume the emotional and maturity gap between the two would be at least 10 years. Based on the actions of some 24 year old guys today, even that would be a stretch.
The protestations of age do not present an adequate argument in his defense on this issue.
For those who believe Soros’ legacy will end with his death should read up on his two sons, both of whom are at least as anti-semitic and anti-capitalist as their father. I’m afraid Georgie’s legacy will be will us for several more generations. In fact, I fully expect it to morph into something far more evil than even Soros himself can imagine.
The Soros’ sons are very similar to Uday and Quday Hussein.
It doesn’t matter whether Soros identifies himself as atheist, Jew, Bahai, or pickle relish. to all the world he is, and always will be a Jew. In view of the persecution all around him in europe it is easy to understand why his family members, and he himself, might have desparately tried to escape that dangerous designation forever more. But in the end noone but himself regards him as anything other than Jewish.His lifetime attempt to flee himself is useless.It’s not about ethnic identification. It’s about bigotry and its myriad effects on those who are the objects of persecution.
You took the words out of my mouth, Elle. Thank you. (salute)
We Jews,being humilated for thousands of years are collecting our eminent personse even when the eminence is not of the best kind.But nowadays some of this eminent people have become the “self-hating” Jews,not literally of course.One consider himself the chosen one and the other Jews deserve their fate.For the persecuted people it`s painful to realize them as the enemies.
It seems ridiculous to me for conservative bloggers to concentrate on defaming a person (George Soros in this case), instead of looking for new answers to our common problems in this county. A boy of 14 can easily have a different outlook than an adult–especially concerning death and torture (this reason is one which is common for the enlistment from the younger ranks to serve the military). Except for some historical interest, I think harping on this account is a waste of time–but seems to be of more than historical interest to many conservatives. Maybe it’s because that by detesting such an experience, they release themselves from any thoughts of what they would have done in a similar situation–even at possibly an older age.
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I am the son of a Holocaust survivor. What in G-d’s name do some of you think GS did that would constitute a war crime and post-war prosecution? All I see here is that at 14 he delivered notices to families to inform them they would be deported, snd that he accompanied his “fake father” at times when his father was confiscating property from those about to be deported. I dont see how he caused anyone to be sent to a death camp, or committed any actual war crimes. And while I’m sure he and his real father knew that deportation wouldnt be good for those deported, hardly anyone outside of the Nazis and those in and around the death camps knew exactly what was going on inside. And receiving notice of deportation in theory might be better then no notice – if you wanted to you could attempt to flee. Debate his morality all you want – I see no hint of evidence of war crimes.