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		<title>By: chair yoga</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 09:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vet16</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Aug 2011 07:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Generation Kill is one of the most realistic portrayals of what it was like over in Iraq during the invasion. Any combat veteran that served with First Marines I guarantee will agree with me. It&#039;s not about being left-wing or a communist, it&#039;s a real-life, modern-day portrayal of what we went through over there. A lot of these comments listed above are made by people who never served or have never served in infantry units who have seen combat. Just because we fought over there does not mean we all agree with the bs of politics/policy that got us to that point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generation Kill is one of the most realistic portrayals of what it was like over in Iraq during the invasion. Any combat veteran that served with First Marines I guarantee will agree with me. It&#8217;s not about being left-wing or a communist, it&#8217;s a real-life, modern-day portrayal of what we went through over there. A lot of these comments listed above are made by people who never served or have never served in infantry units who have seen combat. Just because we fought over there does not mean we all agree with the bs of politics/policy that got us to that point.</p>
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		<title>By: puma &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pajama&#8217;s Media On Generation Kill</title>
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		<dc:creator>puma &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Pajama&#8217;s Media On Generation Kill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 05:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BMAC</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/generation-kill-not-the-greatest-generation/#comment-518595</link>
		<dc:creator>BMAC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 02:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tehran:  My sincere apologies for the comments by some posters that suggest that this show accurately reflects the U.S. Marine Corps, its values or its ethos.  Those comments merely reflect the opinions of people who may have served but who really don&#039;t understand what they were a part of.  Unfortunately we let some scumbags into the Marine Corps.  They usually don&#039;t last very long in the organization because they are stupid, anti-authoritarian low lifes with virtually no potential after the Marine Corps other than pumping gas or joining a biker gang.  They usually like to run their mouths after they serve a single enlistment boasting about how great they were and how terrible their leadership was. 

I personally know of several individual officers with impressive credentials who attempted to convince the producer / directors of this show to alter the script to provide a more realistic portrayal of how Marines act in combat. They were told that the director wanted to stay true to the book, even though he was told by these distinguished combat vets that it was wildly innaccurate in places. Face it.  This Rolling Stone hippie reporter spends his whole time in the back seat of a HMMWV, not knowing what the hell is going on other than the few times he gets out in the midst of a chaotic fire fight.  Odds are he&#039;s face down in a deafening roar of gunfire praying that he doesn&#039;t get his a$$ blown up. Who can blame him.  Then he&#039;s subjected to a continuous loop of rumors and speculation he hears being spewed by some marginally better informed junior NCO or lieutenant who is hungry, tired, hot, dirty, pissed off and generally in a bad mood.  That&#039;s the life of a grunt. And those Marines in this recon unit love the guy because he validates them and seems to genuinely care, unlike their officers and SNCOs, and because he listens to the same hip hop tunes on his IPOD. It&#039;s not surprising that combat bonded these men.  It almost always happens that way. I&#039;ll give him credit.  He faced the danger and shared the hardships.  He&#039;s probably a pretty good guy, but he doesn&#039;t know squat, like virtually all combat reporters. 

Unfortunately there is a prevalent sentiment in this country that seems to think that it is cool to portray wanton disregard of life and contempt for officers and any form of authority as the prevailing sentiment in the U.S. military.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  If it were, you are indeed correct that the U.S. military would quickly collapse as a result.  I think it&#039;s pretty amazing that the U.S. Marine Corps has acquitted itself so greatly over the years with such totally screwed up leadership and a complete lack of discipline on the battlefield.  Perhaps we should turn the entire country over to those 90 IQ, racist, womanizing, boozing, baby killer E-3s portrayed in this series. Well, they couldn&#039;t do any worse than the crew that&#039;s currently in charge.  

The truth is this.  Marines, especially grunts, are coarse in their language, cocky in their attitudes, often reckless in their behavior and relentless in their teasing and their attempts to &quot;gross out&quot; their comrades.  The real combat vets among them are almost always pretty skeptical of what the leadership has in mind for them.  That comes from experiencing the total chaos of ground combat and learning what real fear first hand and surviving to tell about it.  Unlike most of the country&#039;s sheltered and lazy elite, these lads had the stones to lay it all on the line and pick up a rifle.  They aren&#039;t polished or sophisticated, but they aren&#039;t bums or criminals either.  For the most part, they are good young men with strong values and love of country.  Above all they will do anything within their power to protect their comrades from danger, then themselves, then accomplish the mission-- normally in that order but not always.  They usually have hearts of gold and will do anything they can to protect the helpless and the innocent, but not if it means it will get them or their buddies killed.  They are brutally effective on the battlefield. 90 percent of the time they don&#039;t know what the hell is going on other than what is 30 minutes away or 300 meters in front of them.  That&#039;s why they bitch all the time.  

There is no organization in the U.S military quite like the Marine Corps.  It starts with the way we make Marines.  It is practically unthinkable for a Marine in combat to let a buddy down or to fail.  That is why SF units love to work with Marines.  It&#039;s because once Marines get a hold of an enemy formation, they relentlessly blast it to bits, and they won&#039;t quit until every enemy is dead, captured or run off in retreat. We prefer dead. And by the way, if you have friends or relatives in the IRGC, pray to God they never fight U.S. Marines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tehran:  My sincere apologies for the comments by some posters that suggest that this show accurately reflects the U.S. Marine Corps, its values or its ethos.  Those comments merely reflect the opinions of people who may have served but who really don&#8217;t understand what they were a part of.  Unfortunately we let some scumbags into the Marine Corps.  They usually don&#8217;t last very long in the organization because they are stupid, anti-authoritarian low lifes with virtually no potential after the Marine Corps other than pumping gas or joining a biker gang.  They usually like to run their mouths after they serve a single enlistment boasting about how great they were and how terrible their leadership was. </p>
<p>I personally know of several individual officers with impressive credentials who attempted to convince the producer / directors of this show to alter the script to provide a more realistic portrayal of how Marines act in combat. They were told that the director wanted to stay true to the book, even though he was told by these distinguished combat vets that it was wildly innaccurate in places. Face it.  This Rolling Stone hippie reporter spends his whole time in the back seat of a HMMWV, not knowing what the hell is going on other than the few times he gets out in the midst of a chaotic fire fight.  Odds are he&#8217;s face down in a deafening roar of gunfire praying that he doesn&#8217;t get his a$$ blown up. Who can blame him.  Then he&#8217;s subjected to a continuous loop of rumors and speculation he hears being spewed by some marginally better informed junior NCO or lieutenant who is hungry, tired, hot, dirty, pissed off and generally in a bad mood.  That&#8217;s the life of a grunt. And those Marines in this recon unit love the guy because he validates them and seems to genuinely care, unlike their officers and SNCOs, and because he listens to the same hip hop tunes on his IPOD. It&#8217;s not surprising that combat bonded these men.  It almost always happens that way. I&#8217;ll give him credit.  He faced the danger and shared the hardships.  He&#8217;s probably a pretty good guy, but he doesn&#8217;t know squat, like virtually all combat reporters. </p>
<p>Unfortunately there is a prevalent sentiment in this country that seems to think that it is cool to portray wanton disregard of life and contempt for officers and any form of authority as the prevailing sentiment in the U.S. military.  Nothing could be further from the truth.  If it were, you are indeed correct that the U.S. military would quickly collapse as a result.  I think it&#8217;s pretty amazing that the U.S. Marine Corps has acquitted itself so greatly over the years with such totally screwed up leadership and a complete lack of discipline on the battlefield.  Perhaps we should turn the entire country over to those 90 IQ, racist, womanizing, boozing, baby killer E-3s portrayed in this series. Well, they couldn&#8217;t do any worse than the crew that&#8217;s currently in charge.  </p>
<p>The truth is this.  Marines, especially grunts, are coarse in their language, cocky in their attitudes, often reckless in their behavior and relentless in their teasing and their attempts to &#8220;gross out&#8221; their comrades.  The real combat vets among them are almost always pretty skeptical of what the leadership has in mind for them.  That comes from experiencing the total chaos of ground combat and learning what real fear first hand and surviving to tell about it.  Unlike most of the country&#8217;s sheltered and lazy elite, these lads had the stones to lay it all on the line and pick up a rifle.  They aren&#8217;t polished or sophisticated, but they aren&#8217;t bums or criminals either.  For the most part, they are good young men with strong values and love of country.  Above all they will do anything within their power to protect their comrades from danger, then themselves, then accomplish the mission&#8211; normally in that order but not always.  They usually have hearts of gold and will do anything they can to protect the helpless and the innocent, but not if it means it will get them or their buddies killed.  They are brutally effective on the battlefield. 90 percent of the time they don&#8217;t know what the hell is going on other than what is 30 minutes away or 300 meters in front of them.  That&#8217;s why they bitch all the time.  </p>
<p>There is no organization in the U.S military quite like the Marine Corps.  It starts with the way we make Marines.  It is practically unthinkable for a Marine in combat to let a buddy down or to fail.  That is why SF units love to work with Marines.  It&#8217;s because once Marines get a hold of an enemy formation, they relentlessly blast it to bits, and they won&#8217;t quit until every enemy is dead, captured or run off in retreat. We prefer dead. And by the way, if you have friends or relatives in the IRGC, pray to God they never fight U.S. Marines.</p>
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		<title>By: DW Nolan</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/generation-kill-not-the-greatest-generation/#comment-484208</link>
		<dc:creator>DW Nolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 01:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another thing.  Marines are called marines.  Not soldiers.  Would you call a sailor a soldier?  Call an airman a sailor?  

Marines know when they join up that they are joining the most difficult arm of the armed forces.  Boot camp is more difficult and so are the missions we accept.  We earned the title of marine and don&#039;t deserve to be called soldier.  There are few few things more insulting to a marine than to be called a soldier.  

Christian, I&#039;ll return the favor.  You are a civilian chickenhawk pussy who doesn&#039;t have a clue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another thing.  Marines are called marines.  Not soldiers.  Would you call a sailor a soldier?  Call an airman a sailor?  </p>
<p>Marines know when they join up that they are joining the most difficult arm of the armed forces.  Boot camp is more difficult and so are the missions we accept.  We earned the title of marine and don&#8217;t deserve to be called soldier.  There are few few things more insulting to a marine than to be called a soldier.  </p>
<p>Christian, I&#8217;ll return the favor.  You are a civilian chickenhawk pussy who doesn&#8217;t have a clue.</p>
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		<title>By: tehran</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/generation-kill-not-the-greatest-generation/#comment-442884</link>
		<dc:creator>tehran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>after reading more comments about how accurate this show is i&#039;m really upset toward the professionalism of US marines.what are these marine commentators proud of? killing many civilians out of battle zone?being so rude ?thats how they reperesent United States to the world?..........
i served my military duty in IRGC and i see no chance for US marines to fight IRGC members if they are going to make such stupid mistakes.even stupids in irgc dont make such mistakes and times after times!US better reconsider its claim to have the best military in the world.very bad day for me:(i wish i havent seen this show.F////</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>after reading more comments about how accurate this show is i&#8217;m really upset toward the professionalism of US marines.what are these marine commentators proud of? killing many civilians out of battle zone?being so rude ?thats how they reperesent United States to the world?&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.<br />
i served my military duty in IRGC and i see no chance for US marines to fight IRGC members if they are going to make such stupid mistakes.even stupids in irgc dont make such mistakes and times after times!US better reconsider its claim to have the best military in the world.very bad day for me:(i wish i havent seen this show.F////</p>
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		<title>By: tehran</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/generation-kill-not-the-greatest-generation/#comment-442858</link>
		<dc:creator>tehran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 15:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i recently seen all episodes and it totally changed my vision toward Marines.I&#039;m from Iran and i was a huge fan of US. Marines but this series shows marines as the worst force,even there is no credit for their commanders who are supposeed to be the best.I&#039;m very disappointed right now and the worst is that many talk about the non fiction speciality of this show and i cant believe marines who led the Iraq war did almost nothing but killing many innocent civilians out of battle zone.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i recently seen all episodes and it totally changed my vision toward Marines.I&#8217;m from Iran and i was a huge fan of US. Marines but this series shows marines as the worst force,even there is no credit for their commanders who are supposeed to be the best.I&#8217;m very disappointed right now and the worst is that many talk about the non fiction speciality of this show and i cant believe marines who led the Iraq war did almost nothing but killing many innocent civilians out of battle zone&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: DW Nolan</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/generation-kill-not-the-greatest-generation/#comment-437023</link>
		<dc:creator>DW Nolan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to hear from all those tough conservatives that told us how anti-american this series was.  US jarheads have a sick twisted sense of humor and reading your posts about is the best laugh I&#039;ve had for a while.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to hear from all those tough conservatives that told us how anti-american this series was.  US jarheads have a sick twisted sense of humor and reading your posts about is the best laugh I&#8217;ve had for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin</title>
		<link>http://pjmedia.com/blog/generation-kill-not-the-greatest-generation/#comment-435913</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 07:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok about me I was a Marine infantryman in Lar for four years, and also deployed twice to Iraq. Aside from that I am also a conservative, and I am sorry to say christian but you are way off base with the reality of the Marine Corps. Generation Kill is most likely the most accurate depiction of the Marine Corps myself and the other 50 or so Marines I know have seen. Guess what educated or not that is EXACTLY how marines in a grunt unit talk. I knew no racists in my unit and all of us mexicans, blacks, whites, freely made fun of each other and each others race. It eases the stress and tension. In my platoon alone 12 out 29 guys had college degrees, and guess what? They all joked and made non PC jokes all the time. Maybe you should do your research next time. Also the book is required reading by first recon, battalions officers!!. I could go on and on but is most likely no use trying to explain to someone who could never understand. Sorry brother but you are out of touch with how the military operates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok about me I was a Marine infantryman in Lar for four years, and also deployed twice to Iraq. Aside from that I am also a conservative, and I am sorry to say christian but you are way off base with the reality of the Marine Corps. Generation Kill is most likely the most accurate depiction of the Marine Corps myself and the other 50 or so Marines I know have seen. Guess what educated or not that is EXACTLY how marines in a grunt unit talk. I knew no racists in my unit and all of us mexicans, blacks, whites, freely made fun of each other and each others race. It eases the stress and tension. In my platoon alone 12 out 29 guys had college degrees, and guess what? They all joked and made non PC jokes all the time. Maybe you should do your research next time. Also the book is required reading by first recon, battalions officers!!. I could go on and on but is most likely no use trying to explain to someone who could never understand. Sorry brother but you are out of touch with how the military operates.</p>
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