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The muslim religion is a brutally murderous religion, it started that way and has continued in that vain since coming into being.

One can mince words and come up with fancy solutions, but in the end it comes back to the above.

A bald faced lie! There has NEVER been a nation/state named Palestine. The closest has been an administrative district under several different empires, only one of which survived into the 20th century.
As far as the land itself, the Palestinian Mandate of Britain covered Israel, Jordan, Iraq, and parts of Syria. The Brits added Iran to the goody sack at some point.

This URL is lengthy, but does a pretty good job of covering the central points of the issue.

http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2001/11/19/011119fa_FACT2?currentPage=all

Israel was established by the UN. It was the first state created by the UN.
The Arabs didn’t like the plan and had been trying to get it changed since 1919, when the plan was first trotted out.
The Parition plan assigned the Arabs living in the Levant their own land, named Jordan. A king was imported to run the place. Jordan ( Trans-Jordan back then) ran from Israel to Iraq. The West bank was mostly Jewish, Gaza was mostly Arabic. That is the way it stood in 1948, when the Arabs invaded or tried to. Israel won. They won by surviving, not by keeping the land the UN gave them. The Arabs kept that land; Gaza, the West bank and parts of Jerusalem.
The UN didn’t do a thing about this land grab. Then in ’57, the Jews were rented by the French and British to attack Gaza and the Sinai to pin down Egyptian troops while British and French forces tried to take the Suez canal away from Egypt. Ike stopped that.
Then in ’67, when a group of Arabic nations joined together to attack Israel, Israel got in the first blow and in what became known as the 6 day war, RECAPTURED the land the Arabs stole in ’48 &’49.
That is the land we are talking about today.

I have two questions for all those Jew hating, Muslim lovin, terrorist supporters out there;
First, if The West Bank and Gaza are Palestinian land, then why didn’t Jordan and Egypt return them to Palestian while they controlled those lands?
Second, since the UN signed off on the British plan to give that land to Israel, why should Israel give it to the Arabs, who have no claim beyonds renters rights. That is correct, the “Palestinians” (sneer quotes) have NEVER held legal title to any of that land. A fact the World Court pointed out back in the 70′s.

The Entire issue of Palestine is the Arabs trying to con the West into giving them what they took by force, but were unable to keep by force.
They want the West to do their dirty work. Many in the west are actually foolish enough to fall for it.

Composing these words as an Army veteran, please feel free to go to hell. No one here is debasing Gen. Petraeus’ record as a commander of forces. Certainly not I. What we are saying is that officers above the O-6 level are political creatures. They have to be, because the fact is that they serve at the pleasure of the president. If you don’t know this, then you never put on the uniform and got to know it’s culture.

Gen. Petraeus, I believe, was parsing his words so that they would not be offensive to his host and to the president. He is not hired to make policy or to comment on it. He is EXPECTED to approve of the policy and carry it out. This president has staked out a policy vis-a-vis Israel that is very different from his predecessor’s. When a general officer or an admiral publicly states something that contradicts or clashes with the commander-in-chief’s HE’S SACKED!

That’s the reality. You have to be naive or not aware of the culture of the officer corps above the rank of light colonel to consider what we’ve been saying to be defamatory.

Foreign governments with agendas love interviewing our generals and admirals, because they are trying to pry information out of them, or to bait them into saying things that create discord in the chain of command. It is fairly well known that this is the game being played. Those who miss that point are perhaps promoted far above their intelligence level. And, believe me, Petraeus is not stupid.

I hate to burst your bubble but there are no more Pattons or MacArthurs, only Westmorlands and Abrams. They weed out the real soldiers. Think back to Wesley Clarke and all the other generals who came out against Bush in the early days of the war.

This statement by Petreus indicates he is just another paper pusher with Stars. He may be a good tactician but don’t count on him to be a real leader or a free thinker. He’ll go where the political wind blows. I wish it weren’t true.

As for various remarks about the general here, I find them disgusting. If youre in Washington, I would suggest you call him a liar, a sneak and a cowardly carrerist, not to mention stupid, to his face. The man is smart, and has supported these policies from before Obama, as has propably Gates. WHy do you all hate America so much?

Is it a Freudian slip or a reflection of reality by the author? I tend tom think the former, judging by the ‘wild’ spin that we are exposed to by Pajamas Media (PM).

Israel’s illegal occupation of post- 1976 Palestinian and Arab land, in the face of numerous UN resolutions accepted even by the USA no less, is indeed ‘colonisation’, as you intimated in the direct quote above. I would go further however to say that the treatment by the occupation authorities of the occupied Arab masses on that illegally occupied territories is the worst kind of apartheid since the since the internationally condemned racist regime of South Africa.

Sir, away from the hyperbole and clichés, let us look at the facts that lie behind the ‘phenomenon’ of Hizbullah:

- The party was created in 1982 as a direct result of Israeli occupation of Lebanon in that year;

- Hence Hizbullah was, and remains to be (judging from the support of its constituency in the last election) a reflection of a substantial segment of popular Lebanese will to end an illegal occupation, set free thousands of Lebanese and Arab POWs held by Israel for several decades (succeeded in doing so) and create a balance of power that would make the strongest military power in the Middle east from embarking of further occupation and expansion. This has been achieved, for all intents and purposes, as a result of the 2008 war;

- Hizbullah’s leadership is Lebanese in its entirety. Please refer to umpteen sources of information that collate data on the party in the West;

- Yes, the party enjoys substantial support from Iran and Syria. Where is the real issue here? One does remember USA’s support for many a side and party around then world, and its support of unpopular movements that changed regimes against the will of its indigenous people. They are too many to mention here, but the point is made, I believe. the only difference between Iran’s and USA’s roles is that in the latter Washington called the shots and not the movements itself;

- Yes, Hizbullah did kill Americans. It attacked Armed US marines stationed on Lebanese soil. These troops were perceived, and justly so by Lebanese as assisting the Israeli occupation in taking control of Lebanon. Let us remember that there was a war raging in Lebanon as a result of Israel’s mass invasion of the country; and war usually begets death. Hizbullah did not go to California and killed its citizens, rather it is the other way round;

- Yes, the Palestinian plight is at the heart of Hizbullah. it is also in the heart of all Arabs and Moslems as a result of the injustice imposed on Palestinian people for over sixty years spent by a proud nation without a national identity having been dislodged from the land of their forefathers and ended up living in refugee camps in destitution and misery., elders have no past, fathers no present and their children have no future. May I also dare to say that the plight of the Palestinians enjoys sympathy in the West too!

- To be objective, one has to point out one indictment against Hizbullah in matters of international terrorism. There might be pending investigations and media hype about the party’s alleged role in overseas operations, but this is quite different from the claim made by you sir, that the party IS involved. I would have thought that justice seeking people would not want to divert the course of justice by making unsubstantiated allegations, and would wait for the due process to take its course.

sir, as to the statement by gen Patreus, that seems to infuriate you, I would tell you as a layperson with no military expertise, that it is (the statement) is one of the most politically rational that a US military commander came up with.

The Palestinian-Israeli conflict has been at the root of instability for decades. This conflict has seen unlimited and indeed unwavering support by Washington to Israel. Billions and billons of Us taxpayers money have been granted to Israel, in essence financing the instability of an already volatile region in the world. I believe it has become clear in the era of post-9/11 that the ‘hatred’ of USA on the part of the 3rd world, especially Moslems is due to USA refusing to deal with issues of the Middle East in even-handed manner. This could be ascertained by gleaming through millions of pages of research conducted in the aftermath of 9/11, some of it conducted by official and respected Us institutions, hence the drive to redress the balance and ‘win the hearts and minds’ of Arabs and Moslems around the world.

There is no ‘international Muslim conspiracy’ to take over the world; every sane and objective reader of history recognises this fact.

The media hype that asserts otherwise is only misleading, enticing world turbulences and is a disservice to the American citizen who is eager for justice with the same passion as the Arab.

Regards