Comments on: Gay Groups Ignore Cheney’s Support of Same-Sex Marriage

By: Larsen E. Whipsnade

Larsen E. Whipsnade — Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:58:39 +0000

43. Mark C:”Oh gee, gay rights groups aren’t falling all over themselves to offer praise for a guy who lifted not a finger to help their cause when he actually had political power, despite having a lesbian daughter. What a surprise.”

That’s why they should be called “miserables” instead of “gays”

By: Mark C

Mark C — Sat, 13 Jun 2009 16:49:05 +0000

Oh gee, gay rights groups aren’t falling all over themselves to offer praise for a guy who lifted not a finger to help their cause when he actually had political power, despite having a lesbian daughter. What a surprise.

By: David S

David S — Sun, 07 Jun 2009 06:08:51 +0000

Cheney’s support is largely ignored because it is largely irrelevant. He has expended no political capital on this topic, and is not an advocate for same-sex marriage. Merely acknowledging that each state determines the status of marriage therein does not equal support for same-sex marriage.

When Cheney decides to take a public stand against his party on this issue, and advocate for full marriage rights for all same-sex couples, that will be news. Until then, he will be ignored, because he is unimportant to this struggle. If not for his personal stake in the matter, it is doubtful he would ever have addressed the issue at all.

Peace.

By: JohnRJ08

JohnRJ08 — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 23:18:48 +0000

RAMSIS, just read your very thoughtful note. Can we manage some civility in discussing this? Or are you going to go ‘Palin’ on me? For your edification, Al Gore didn’t open his mouth about the Bush administration until after 9/11, which was nearly a year after Bush was elected. As for Jimmy Carter, he’s been critical of all presidents from time to time. He’s been a human rights activist for the last 25 years, and that’s what they do. After 9/11, you may recall that Democratic and Republican senators and congressmen stood on the Capitol steps and sang “God Bless America” together. The “under minding” as you put it, didn’t really start until Bush refused to support the Kyoto agreement, then failed to capture or kill Bin Laden, and turned Iraq into an amusement park for terrorists. However, the same can’t be said of Republicans today. Cheney has been challenging Obama’s policies from the beginning, politicizing the Gitmo decision and trying to alarm the country by accusing Obama of making us less safe, which is totally unprovable. Then there are Boehmer, McConnell, Jindal, and Cantor, who haven’t offered a single meaningful solution in any of their attacks on the administration. The great irony here is that the only person who has remained relatively quiet throughout all of this is George W. Bush. Maybe he actually knows something Cheney doesn’t, which is that all the negativity and political attacks will do nothing to repair the damage they did to the world during their 8 years in office.

By: JohnRJ08

JohnRJ08 — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 22:59:22 +0000

I think the reason that the gay community hasn’t patted Dick Cheney on the back for his stand on gay marriage is because he didn’t stand up for it when he had the power and political influence to do anything about it. He waited until he had been out of office for six months with nothing to lose before he opened his mouth. Furthermore, the reason he opened his mouth is more because of familial pressure within his own household, rather than some general commitment to equal rights for gays. This is the man who fully supported “Don’t ask, don’t tell”, which is just another subtle form of discrimination. I, personally, don’t see Cheney as an “evil” man. However, I do see someone who is an ideologue and rigid thinker.

By: scr_north

scr_north — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 18:08:59 +0000

Hi folks, of course what I meant to say was that I though Cheney out did Biden on the back and forth comments they have had over the last few months, not the debates. More coffee is needed here. Having said that I thought that Palin beat Biden handily during those debates.

By: scr_north

scr_north — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:29:23 +0000

I believe the reason that you haven’t heard a peep from the gay community is that his view to support (on a state by state) gay marriage does not fit in to the narrative as “Cheney is Evil” that they have been propagating for the last eight years.
Everytime I’ve seen Cheney on TV either in press interviews, conferences or as a guest on news shows he has shown himself to be an intelligent, thoughtful and witty man. During the debates I thought he pretty well buried Biden.
I suspect that there is probably a number of gays (and for that matter liberals in general) that have listened to him over the last few months and their opinion is changing (at least his Poll numbers are rising) but lack the moral courage to state that within their cliques.

By: Charvakan

Charvakan — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:27:48 +0000

35. Caestal:

It certainly dilutes the weight of his support. He could still love his daughter and be against gay marriage. Parents may disagree with their children’s choice in many matters like their spouse/significant other, job, faith etc, but that does not mean that they don’t love them. I would respect Cheney more if he said he loved his daughter but stood by the conservative position on gay marriage. The reason why liberals don’t put too much into Cheney’s position on this matter is because nothing he has done or said gives any indication that he would have this position had it not been for his daughter. This is like the comment that Dan Quale made during the 92 election to a hypothetical question that “he would support his daughter on whatever decision she made if she decided to have an abortion”. Many saw it as bending your rules (Quale wants to remove the choice for abortion) when it comes to your own family.

By: Lynn

Lynn — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 11:52:41 +0000

I think that what enrages the Lefties the most is the fact that former Vice President Cheney

loves his daughter.

Oh and she’s GAY. He loves her. They tried to throw her and her father under the bus and missed.

HA! HA!

By: Caestal

Caestal — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:43:58 +0000

“The only reason why Cheney supports gay marriage…” It is always laudable to support the rights of others when you have no stake in the matter, but does that make it less right to support their rights when you do? The issue isn’t whether Cheney is evil incarnate; it is whether folks who have found themselves at odds with him can acknowledge their agreement with him on this issue.