From Tea Party to Tequila Party?
In the 2012 presidential election, Latinos might be so disgruntled with both parties that they could wind up craving a shot of tequila.
Inspired by how the Tea Party shook up the Republican establishment from the right, Latino activists are threatening to form a “Tequila Party” to challenge President Obama and the Democratic establishment from the left.
Right now, the idea exists only in theory. It’s been mentioned in articles and speeches, but there is no formal apparatus. Yet, among Latinos, there is a palpable amount of disillusionment with both political parties and especially with Democrats.
About 10 million Latino voters cast ballots in 2008. And with 500,000 new voters joining the rolls every year, as many as 12 million Latinos are expected to vote in 2012.
In every presidential election since 1960, the Democrat has won the majority of the Latino vote. But there’s more to the story. If Republicans get 35 percent or more, it’s usually enough to win the White House. Below 25 percent, they usually lose.
In the 2008 election, Obama was given a whopping 67 percent of the Latino vote. Yet, while in office, as far as many Latinos are concerned, he has fallen short of expectations.
According to a recent poll by ImpreMedia and Latino Decisions, President Obama’s job approval rating among Latinos is still at 70 percent. Yet only 43 percent of Latino voters are sure they will vote for him next year. One reason they give is Obama’s broken promise to pursue comprehensive immigration reform. This doesn’t translate into support for the GOP; only 9 percent said they would definitely vote for a Republican candidate, and another 8 percent said they might.
The question isn’t whether Latinos are going to defect to the GOP. It’s whether Latinos are so disappointed in Obama and the Democrats that they don’t vote at all. The White House can’t afford to let that happen.
For the first time in years, Latinos are in play because of a genuine anger at how both parties mistreat those voters.
Just listen to Robert DePosada, a Washington-based GOP political strategist. I asked him what he thought about the idea of Latinos forming a Tequila Party.
“I think it’s a great idea,” said DePosada. “Both parties are just playing with us. And unless we send a message to these people, they’re going to continue going as they are.”
Or listen to Arnoldo Torres, a Sacramento CA-based Democratic strategist.
“Latinos are starting to realize that Democrats are not responsive to their concerns,” Torres said. “In fact, there is phenomenal ignorance in both parties. Latinos have got to change the paradigm by demanding more.”
There has long been a frustration among Latinos that Democrats were taking their support for granted. But the straw that broke the donkey’s back was the immigration debate, which Democrats have badly mismanaged.
In 2006 and 2007, Senate Democrats -– including a freshman Illinois senator named Barack Obama –- proposed “poison pill” amendments to kill, at the behest of organized labor, a comprehensive immigration reform bill that included guest workers. In 2009 and 2010, Democrats — in control of both the White House and Congress –- put immigration reform on the back burner to concentrate on health care, trade, global warming, education, and other matters. And finally, during last year’s lame duck session, five Senate Democrats – Mark Pryor of Arkansas, Ben Nelson of Nebraska, Kay Hagen of North Carolina, and Jon Tester and Max Baucus of Montana – voted against cloture on the DREAM Act and prevented the bill from moving to a final vote.
And yet, as bad as Democrats have been on immigration, Republicans have been worse by making the issue one of “us” vs “them” — and putting Latinos squarely in the “them” category.
Tequila might not be on the menu for Latinos in 2012, but it could be more appetizing in 2014 or 2016. After all, as long as Latino voters feel undervalued by both parties, they’re going to be up for grabs in ways that could shake up the political system.
That’s a good thing. Loyalty is an admirable trait. But, in politics, it can be debilitating. Latinos need to give their loyalty to the Democratic Party a rest. They need to flex their muscle, express their concerns, spell out their issues, and hold both parties accountable with equal enthusiasm.
It’s true that a third party insurrection could help them do that. But this is a tall order. There is an easier way. Latino voters should simply become more engaged with the process and more demanding of the parties they have now. If they’re tired of being ignored, then they must make themselves heard.
Every time I see something like this, I’m full of questions. Do you “Latinos” consider yourselves American? Did you have to make an effort to gain American citizenship? If so, why did you make that effort? What does being an American mean to you?
I would submit, Mr. Navarette, that you consider the idea that it may be more effective for Latinos to consider supporting the party and the candidate who will protect and promote the United States as a whole FIRST, and not simply what he or she will do for Latinos (or any other group). Whenever the nanny state morphs over into support for whatever special interest group that can deliver the most votes, then Americans of all stripes inevitably lose. I read your columns with interest, and it always seems to me that you view events and life in America through a strictly immigrant or Latino perspective. If Latinos, who number about 50 million in this country according to the latest census, want to truly exercise their burgeoning influence in American politics, I suggest considering becoming the group that actively supports and promotes American values and the exceptionalism of this country before all other allegiances. The country will take special note of that, and you may then find yourself writing column after column about the subsequent exceptionalism of Latino culture and perspectives.
Excellent suggestion, as no one seems to dispute that a socialist government will eventually run out of other people’s money, and Peter’s pockets will be empty. What then, liberals? The trouble is, that with creeping socialism being taught in most schools for many years, and that includes little if any teaching of morality, young people and middle-aged people don’t even consider that the money might run out. They think only of their pocketbook and to heck with the country’s condition.
If Mexico had a thriving economy, plenty of jobs, and no more corruption than we have in the USA, hordes of illegals wouldn’t be streaming across the border. So what changed? Mexico lost the necessary morality to function decently. The USA is losing it now, and if it progresses, how will the USA be able to function? It won’t. We have to enforce our laws.
Take it from someone who grew up on the border — Mexico has never had “the necessary morality to function decently,” and likely never will. The rampant corruption was common knowledge in the ’60s. If the systemic bribes, kickbacks, etc. ever stopped, the Mexican economy would screech to a halt.
Thank you, Ruben. For spelling out what we already knew. That 500,000 new invaders come every year and are “added” to the rolls. Thank you for spelling out for my nay sayer friends the true goal of the Latino movement. You speak of Republicans putting you in the “them” category, but that’s all the Latino leadership has ever refered to anyone who might question that continously collecting Mexico’s refuse might somehow be bankrupting our economy. Your blatant hypocrisy has been on display for quite some time here, but this really takes the proverbial cake.
No, Mr Navarrette, you have it exactly backwards. It may be “us vs them” but its the way Latinos frame it. If you want special rights and privileged go with the Democrats, that’s how they buy your vote.
Wow. How “original.”
Divide and conquer.
More uninspired drivel intended to support Democrat tyranny.
NO.
“Latinos have got to change the paradigm by demanding more.”
More what?
Tequila? no thank you, Jack Daniels for me.
Oh ok, the article… as usual is completely a waste of time and internet traffic. Couldn’t help noticing this:
“For the first time in years, Latinos are in play because of a genuine anger at how both parties mistreat those voters”
Listen, latinos usually don’t have a effing clue about politics, just look what they normally do in their original countries. I’ll tell you: They normally dislike both parties. And when the things get really tough, they always have “a genuine anger” at all the parties in their political spectrum.
What did argentinians say during the convulsed corralito years? “Que se vayan todos”, i.e. “they (politicians) all must go away”. This same cry could be heard in Ecuador, Venezuela, Guatemala, etc etc etc.
Oh yes! You would think they have been in a profoundly philosophical thinking thus deciding for nihilism to be their system. But no, they were just not having a clue regarding politics. But politic is part of human life, hence the necessity to think, design, vote for political ideas.
So when I hear latinos angry at everyone I can’t help but think “this is the same s**t I’ve aready heard in their countries”. It’s not that they have a specific idea (after much thinking) on what they want, just having the adolescent immature lapse. And I just don’t want that in the USA.
Fortunately, vote is optional, so they can stay home and not vote every time they have adolescent conflicts. As a marginal note, the vote is obligatory in latino countries, that means they had to choose even when they disliked everyone; so in many countries, the best organized hacks (the left) got into power, still are, and will be there for a long time…
“The question isn’t whether Latinos are going to defect to the GOP. It’s whether Latinos are so disappointed in Obama and the Democrats that they don’t vote at all. The White House can’t afford to let that happen. For the first time in years, Latinos are in play because of a genuine anger at how both parties mistreat those voters.”
I’d really like to know what Latinos want? Really what do they want? More “FREE” STUFF from the Federal Government? More welfare, more subsidies, more free health insurance, more what? Public schools around the country are doing their best to accommodate millions of Latino students, pregnant Latino mothers are coming into this country just to have babies so that they can become American citizens and anchor the entire family into this country, and Latino families are flooding emergency rooms at hospitals all over the country for free medical care (when they’re not getting it under Medicaid). So, really, what is it they want? A FREE college education, FREE housing, FREE Obamacare, FREE what? And who is going to PAY for all of this “FREE” stuff? Face it, Latinos want open borders and a European-style welfare state. And if that’s what they want from this country, and stick other Americans with the bill for all of this, then do us all a favor and don’t bother voting at all in 2012. Because, folks, we’re broke. So if you want a lot of “FREE” stuff, you certainly are not going to get it from conservatives in 2012.
“’d really like to know what Latinos want? Really what do they want? “
What they want is simple. To turn this country on it’s ear through “multiculturalism” , everything as FREE or a “right” and lastly…to bring their “customs and traditions” of 3rd world cesspools to this country. To overwhelm social services and eventually bankrupt ( as too many states have know for some time ) and return the SW to the crap holes they fled.
“People of other races seldom worry about fairness. If something is good for them, they support it, no matter how unfair it may to others. “Affirmative action” is an obvious example. It makes no difference to most blacks or Hispanics that preferences for them require discrimination against whites. Preferences are good for them, so they want them. They don’t care if whites suffer.”
And there you have it. Once they have elected and taken over cities, states and become this “super Majority” ….Americans will suffer for the long term. Just look at La Raza and every other aggrieved minority group in the US…
It ain’t about America or being Americans…it’s about them…they’re language, their “culture”.
Can you imagine poor, destitute Americans flooding the souther border into Mexico, demanding English….demanding health care…demanding that the 4th of July be celebrated?
I got an idea. How about the 30 million illegals working and living in this country, get some real cajones and go back to their country of origin and take down the corrupt kleptocracy they have for a government in Mexico, San Salvador, and most of the rest of Central America. Seems there are a lot of natural resources in those countries but not enough men with guts to take them back from the crooks who call them their leaders.
Nickel I would love to see Mr. Navarette respond personally to your excellent point. However I doubt it will happen, because the answer would be just as uncomfortably revealing as the question.
This is just awful: that Obama didn’t give the endless hordes of poor, put upon, unfairly treated illegal Latino immigrants that have invaded every last square inch of the United States of America everything that they want – free and right now by gawd!
So, we will show you bigoted, stingy, racist gringos that you’re making a big mistake this time. We will form our own “Tequila Party” with 40 million red capes, 40 million fat bulls all lead by one beautiful, curvy, 20 something Hispanic Sarah Palin Senorita and then we will shut the USA government down. Contact our Press Secretary Ruben Navarrette Jr. for complete details.
Go For It Ruben. Go For It.
The last time the illegal Hispanics proved their under-appreciated value to America by staging a nationwide “workout” rebellion the good old USA returned in full force for one day with the most enjoyable, productive, profitable 24 hours our country has had in many decades. Who knows..? Your “Tequila Party” just might succeed in making the whole thing permanent!
“Tequila Party” is a poor choice. It only demonstrates an intransigent Latino mindset and their refusal to acknowledge their host country’s values, let alone assimilate. It trivializes our Revolutionary heroes.
The phrase reeks of Margaritaville lay abouts and “Ayyyy, ‘mano, we dohn wan’ none of your steeenking exceptionalism”.
But pelaut, don’t you understand that the author is *allowed* to use words that conjure up vile, racist stereotypes without adverse consequence?!
He’s a Leftist!
Once again, Ruben espouses things from his bigoted viewpoint.
The GOP does not view Latinos as an enemy, in fact they seek greater support from Latinos here LEGALLY! They oppose a porous, unguarded border and the granting of rewards for prior deliberate illegal activity via amnesty or the DREAM act.
I personally think there is a place for a genuine guest worker program AND increased legal immigration, but by injecting his continuous poisonous invective in the debate, Ruben disserves every side of the debate, and the nation at large! Such a waste of bandwidth!
the same could be said for the black community couldn’t it ? Just imagine if the Latinos & Black community converged what could transpire with groups out of acorn and Angry Latinos it could be devastating for Democrats.
No way. Jesse Jackson would never allow it, and Obama wouldn’t see any advantage in it. Why? Because it’s a constant race in this country to see who can be the most “victimized”, and then go look for the expected handouts afterwards. Blacks have been mired in this mentality for decades, and I suspect it will become like that in the Latino community as well – even as they get more voting influence.
So restless that they’ll beat feet back to Mexico?
Remember, El Emparedado, we know your lies: that you equate Latinos with mojados, that you have night sweats when you realize that Spanish-speaking immigrants are assimilating and having English-speaking babies; that you dream of being the master of a hacienda with hundreds of peons toiling to prevent from having to do anything yourself.
Reuben, what exactly do “Latinos” want?
As far as I can tell it’s an open border, and taxpayer income transfers.
Can’t say that those are what one wold call just and moral grievances.
The Democratic party is the place for Latinos. If you want special rights based on your race, ethnicity, perceived historical grievance or class. Then the Democratic party is the place for you.
If all you want is the fruits of your own labor. Then you are a Republican.
Short, sweet – I love it! Amen!
For those of you who have never been taught this in school (thanks to the “Department” of Education and the Democrats), Republicans were the party that pretty much ended slavery in this country … starting with ol’ Abe Lincoln himself. So whenever I see blacks supporting Dems for any reason, I know I’m seeing a person who truly doesn’t know history.
Let’s shake things up in 2012. With all due respect, Democrats have taken a lot of group’s support for granted (ladies, I mean us too). It would be nice to have several alternatives to the weakling who currently occupies the White House.
“They need to flex their muscle, express their concerns, spell out their issues, and hold both parties accountable with equal enthusiasm.” Or Ruben – they need to stay home. Are you one of the most willfully ignorant and blind of the bunch? Do you realize that what you are saying is….Latinos (not Americans, mind you) need to start PUSHING EVERYONE AROUND TO GET WHAT THEY WANT. Not the needs of the greater majority, but the needs of a special group must take first place above all else. And you continue to scratch you dunderhead about why Americans are fed up? What do you have against black people Ruben? Because they are increasingly restive about their needs being swamped by newcomers. And what do you have against white people, Asians, and all others because you would like them to volunteer to become second class citizens in their own country in service to the sacredness of the “Latino”? If the Latinos were so exceptional at what you think they should be doing, then why did they not do it back in the old country? Why do they come here and make demands? Because they can get away with it? I saw plenty of “Latinos” at Tea Parties but I guess those aren’t the species you are speaking about. You want to organize the crotch grabbers, the gringo haters, the aliens who suck us dry, the Spanish speakers who want their enclaves and their special services? What Ruben? Spit it out. Because you keep dancing around the edges of disgruntlement and outright racism without REALLY being bold about you list of demands. We are to read your screeds month after month and walk away with the sense of threat and do what? Acquiesce to what? You do everyone a favor though. You validate those who suspect that we are in the middle of an invasion of foreigners who want all of us to whom this country belongs to give it up and shut up. You are making the case for us who think that the overwhelming influx of those coming here should be stopped because our lives are in danger. You don’t want to accommodate the sensibilities of the average American but you DEMAND they accommodate the “Latino” or the “Latino” will have a Tequila Party? LOL – hey. Tell ‘em to stay home. And drink all the tequila they want. At least they won’t be here killing innocent nuns, raping, and thieving after a bout with too much tequila. Did it ever occur to you that your choice of the word tequila is RACIST and does your cause no good? Keep it up. Can’t wait ’til that PR campaign gets rolling.
Latino, black, white, it doesn’t matter. In general, there are only two kinds of liberals. (1) Power seekers, who would sell their mothers and their country down the river for short term gains of power.
All power seekers, without exception, are liars.
(2) Dupes, people easy to fool, who believe those lies, despite all evidence to the contrary.
Liberalism is nothing but a big Con Game.
Interesting what’s not stated in this article. There were lots of descriptions of frustration and anger and implied “you’ll be sorry” jabs at the Democrats – as well as the usual “Republicans will get nothing because they’re racists” insinuation – but what exactly is it that Latinos seem to want? At least according to this article.
From what I can tell, the only thing they want is “comprehensive immigration reform” and the only specific example of that is the DREAM Act. Ah! OK, apparently “comprehensive immigration reform” is setting up a bunch of hoops through which illegal immigrants (ie, lawbreakers) can hop so they can become legal immigrants. No mention of how so many illegal Latino immigrants ended up here or why it is that they can’t go through the same pre-immigration hoops that all other non-Latino immigrants have to. Just the immigration variant of Cloward-Piven: overwhelm the system to force a different set of policies.
This is exactly why many conservatives and non-Latino immigrants have a problem with “comprehensive immigration reform” and make our representatives aware of our displeasure. Because we will not let the immigration debate be “managed”.
Latino activists are threatening to form a “Tequila Party” to challenge President Obama and the Democratic establishment from the left.
In every presidential election since 1960, the Democrat has won the majority of the Latino vote.
President Obama’s job approval rating among Latinos is still at 70 percent.
One reason …. Obama’s…. promise to pursue comprehensive immigration reform.
only 9 percent said they would definitely vote for a Republican candidate, and another 8 percent said they might.
“Latinos are starting to realize that Democrats are not responsive to their concerns,” Torres said. “In fact, there is phenomenal ignorance in both parties. Latinos have got to change the paradigm by demanding more.”
To Summarize: There is a “group” out there that “somebody” identifies as being this homogeneous class of voters, who apparently have only one issue upon which they self-identify, not a single other issue is mentioned, they approve in overwhelming numbers of the job that the current President is doing while he drives the economy into complete ruins, destroys our standing in the world, places “czars” in charge of nearly half of our fiscal lives, circumvents the Constitution, botches our national security, mishandles our energy policy, mangles the Constitution, meddles in local affairs, props up thugs in unions and ignores them at polling places.
And these self-identified mass of voters are going to attack him…FROM THE LEFT of him. (carrying Che Guevara posters and holy cards with a halo around Castro’s head, perhaps?)
How does one even get to the left of Obama and this administration. Promoting Michael Moore to replace him?
These voters, whomever they may be…feel they need to “demand more”.
Of what, precisely. They clearly care not one damn bit about America. They don’t self-identify from the paragraphs above with one single issue related to the well being of America.
They vote in such small fraction for anyone who DOES care about America, that they have placed themselves in the “lost” category for over 50 years for any serious candidate that opposes an anti-America candidate.
Much like the union heads gorging on pension feasts that destroy our states one by one, these “self-identified” non-Americans…are here apparently only to “demand more” and get in on the rape of the American economy which is tearing the country down from the inside. They want to attack “from the left” so they can get their hands on some of the pirate’s booty.
There is no other way to take this essay. It’s about “getting some” before it’s gone.
Let us know when they want to BECOME Americans first, when they want to help save this country from the people who are now acting exactly as they are, selfish, greedy, money-grubbing, political schemers, who vote Democrat because they know they will get in on the sweetheart deals that has caused this nation to go bankrupt, state by helpless state.
Go ahead. Attack Obama from the left. It’s a mentally deranged position, but at least it would be entertaining. In the meantime, most of the good folks here will be trying to work to save this land of ours. We actually care about it, its security, its prosperity, its welfare. There is little hope you would understand that notion.
Ruben Navarrette Jr. writes, “Latino voters should simply becoming (sic) more engaged with the process and more demanding of the parties. . . ” and quotes Arnoldo Torres (a democrat), “Latinos have got to change the paradigm by demanding more.”
Not once were we apprised of what Latinos are “demanding” (other than the old over-used term “immigration reform”).
Republicans tend to want the current law prohibiting illegal entry into the USA enforced. Democrats (apparently) want open borders. Democrats and Latinos have NEVER demanded that the current law (see Title 18, U.S.C.) be repealed. So what are the Democrats and Latinos demanding? They simply aren’t saying.
The Hispanic population of the USA is being inundated with the “unfairness” of our “immigration policy”. Any specificity there? None. It’s all political rhetoric designed to enrage the Hispanic vote by claiming that they are victims of an unfair and discriminatory practice. Just what the practices are is, again, unspecified.
Ironically, the Latinos who are demanding immigration reform only believe it applies to folks south of the Rio Grande. I never hear them demand “immigration reform” for Canadians or Europeans or Asians.
The amount of rhetoric and hyperbole regarding “immigration reform” spewed from the media is simply appalling. It is prejudicial propaganda used by the left to further poison the well of the USA policy that requires anyone coming into the USA to sign the guest book.
“And yet, as bad as Democrats have been on immigration, Republicans have been worse by making the issue one of “us” vs “them” — and putting Latinos squarely in the “them” category.”
Ruben, you’ve been part of the problem in creating ethnic divisions in this country. The “us vs them” in the immigration issue is the “us” is support for the rule of law and the “them” is people like yourself, who support massive law-breaking. Anything else is incitement of race hatred. Look in the mirror, Ruben.
Why all this racist talk. Why not just be Americans that are interested in equality for all and not a Latino that is looking for the party that will give them the most. If the whites as you call them were to gather all that are considered Caucasions, they would greatly out number all the other blacks and Latino’s and that would end this bull shite. Stop looking for a handout. Become Americans in thought and deed and fight for right , not welfare because of the color of your skin or the idea that yu aren’t getting a bigger share of the pie because you have Latino blood. On the battle field all races bleed red
Independent self reliant people don’t vote for democrats. “Stop looking for a handout” is like saying “vote conservative”. There is nothing in it for democrats if Latinos don’t become the next grievance group.
Ruben,
I didn’t bother to read your babblings, because I already know everything you have to say, but let me be the first to tell you to STFU.
JBB
Enough of Latino-Americans (or Hispano-Americans) and Black Americans or Anything Americans. It’s reactionary and racist and hurts the very groups it pretends to help. Jesse Jackson and Maxine Waters depend on black people being second-class citizens for their power and incomes. Latinos who fall into the same trap are dopes.
Well said, Mr. Simon…….Perhaps the author of the article should start reading Star Parker’s columns to see where racist-based politics has led the poor in the black community. Martin Luther King said, “There is only one race, the Human Race.”
You’re correct, Roger, but the Republicans can’t elucidate that truism. Every time they attempt to show the truth, they are called “racist” and “anti-immigrant”. The Republicans then retreat into their offices and hide under the desk.
Well said, Mr. S! I’m all for tightening the immigration, welfare, and social policies in this country (which means voting Obama and his ilk out of power ASAP), but I’m above all in favor of people learning what it means to be an American, and how LUCKY and FORTUNATE they are to be here – HOWEVER they may have arrived. This is the best country on earth; why? Because everyone wants to come here, to seek the values this country was formed with and built on.
You see anyone massively crossing a border, swimming over rivers, and arriving in boats anywhere else on this planet?
Time for RN to leave PJM, as did BB?
Democrats are importing their votes. Why, it is their golden goose for winning elections.
I’m with JinEugene (#24)…it’s just that simple.
No, he has a right to speak. It is, after all, why he’s here and is a part of the work that he does.
More importantly, it’s a part of being an American. We demean that when we tell people to shut up that we disagree with.
Let’s leave that to Whoopi.
the only demands any american should make is to be left alone to pursue his own “happiness”
any “concerns” and “issues” that deviate from our constitutionally protected freedoms are unnecessary
besides, to want and desire things from our government demonstrates an epic fail
you address your wants and desires in a free market not a government and it is up to the individual to make things happen for himself
I agree Roger, I tell my students you are Americans. There are thousands of examples out there of successful Americans of any race. Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness, that’s what we should be fighting for, NOT entitlements, entitlements, and pursuit of entitlements.
Every Tea Party group that I know welcomes people from all ethnic groups into their ranks. Despite what the Left and the MSM say, they don’t restrict membership to Caucasians only. This is where we differ from your Tequila Party.
Thanks, Ruben, for shining such a light on the emptiness and self-indulgence of identity politics. I will be showing this article to as many people as possible to ensure that they understand how certain ethnic groups are more interested in serving their self-interest than in serving America.
Reuben-
Number one, don’t you get tired of sounding that one note? I mean, really now.
Number two, for someone who is all fired up about perceived “racist issues”, I couldn’t help but notice you’re resorting to stereotypes in *the very first sentence* of your commentary!
Give it a rest, buddy.
Your editorials have now been relegated to the same status as that of “0″‘s televised speeches. I have never listened to (not one) of his multiplicity of lies on the tube, but simply read them afterward in printed form. Thus eliminating the liberal emotional crap emblazoned on video that you of the left seem to think is some sort of second coming, but instead allow me to shred the paper form and put it to better use as a waist management tool easily flushed.
Seeing as I can only read your print and only stomach your stuff so much, I bid you farewell. Given that Pajama’s has seen fit to put your written “CRAP” in print on their web page I am removing Pajama’s URL from my list of quasi conservative sites.
Although freedom of speech is one of our most fundamental freedoms, so is freedom of choosing to ignore such minutia when the logical mind recognizes its just plain dribble.
You my man are simply a product of some junior college affirmative action, “red book” reading guevarista, anti-American Azlanist, like Oscar Zeta Acosta, with his left over 60′s “reconquista” attitude replete with its played out anti-white sentiment.
If you read your Aztec-Mexica history your ancestors chose to leave (abandon) voluntarily what is not even considered a very minute portion of the now United States of America, but instead it was and is the Culiacan region of Sinaloa. Your primordial heritage no longer saw any worth in that region and settled in the swamp lands surrounding modern day Mexico City instead.They didn’t ever believe Aztlan was near any portion of what is now the U.S. or its former territories.
Now because of ancestral choices you think we should share the wealth of what has been developed from the blood, sweat, and tears of our legal immigrants with modern day bad choice makers of your not so distant cousins! Comprehensive Immigration Reform ? Forget it! Tell them to get in line like everyone else who wants to settle on our soil. I can cut my own lawn and water it,and paint my own picket fence too.
It is my contention that you are just one more of those “abarottes” type Chicano exploiters of your own people. You talk a good game, and I know you can’t help it, its in your genes.You probably think that you are an ancestor of some noble Spaniard as well with a name like Navarrette (which ever is convenient at the time) Well Jr. I would like to know just how many laborers do you have coming on a daily basis to trim your roses and weed your garden? How many of them have you directed to the voting polls in the past legal of not!
Tell you what I promise never to go back to T.J. again if you promise to move there.
MINA, you can’t call it quits. Your comments are always a pleasure to peruse.
Besides, how many websites can ‘boast’ of having a supposed adult male/continuing ‘contributor’ whose writings are eerily similar to a prepubescent youth?
MINA:
“Given that Pajama’s has seen fit to put your written “CRAP” in print on their web page I am removing Pajama’s URL from my list of quasi conservative sites. ”
Near as I reckon it, PJM uses Navarette’s columns as some sort of human cyber-pinata.
He writes ‘em, PJM posts ‘em, and we all have a grand old time swatting away at ‘em with stout sticks, baseball bats, golf clubs, tennis rackets, croquet mallets and tire irons.
And a good time is had by all…even by Navarette, for whom it’s all about getting his name spelled right.
Wonderful, intelligent comments by many posters.
Navarrette’s, ahem, ‘articles’ I’d like to say are AP-like but that’s an insult to the AP and itheir army of intern-like writers/scribblings.. yikes!
Many people have honed in or touched on the ‘..demanding more’ quote.
It has me think of the quote by Junenval when vying to be co-counsel in Rome: Ask not what your country can do for you but rather what you can do for your country.
This ‘concept’ is lost on the empathy seeking, self-annointed Trans- Jordanians of the Western World because:
A) They hail from 3rd World hellholes and will not admit to this FACT because their birthplace is in dire straits due to THEIR very own doing/lethargy/stupidity, as well as their past and present family still in said hellhole.
B) Leninites, useful idiots through the decades (Hi Ruben!) have encouraged the tens of millions to adopt and reword/polish the ‘philosophy’ of that infamous welfare mother who shouted to NYC’s mayor in the early 70′s, “It’s my job to have babies and your job to pay for them”.
This empty vessel, Navarrette KNOWS what he proposes is counterproductive to ANY successful society to continue its competitiveness, improvement and exceeding expectation.
In most circles the guy’s an enemy of the state. California, Arizona, Nevada have tried incorporating these low educated masses into their construct with disastrous results.
Yet this instigator of societal suicide is proposing, encouraging this on a national scale. Despicable.
Intones Senor Navarette:
“Inspired by how the Tea Party shook up the Republican establishment from the right, Latino activists are threatening to form a “Tequila Party” to challenge President Obama and the Democratic establishment from the left.”
A “Tequila Party”?
How VERY original! Did you come up with that one on your own, or is that the result of months of debate in a La Raza think-tank?
In my responses to previous Navarette columns, I’ve often pointed that Navarette is a Creole and his notions of “Immigration Reform” have more to do with re-establishing the Latino caste-system that is part and parcel of WHY Latinos leave their homelands to come and work illegally in the United States.
This latest screed of Navarette’s simply drips with the paternalistic class chauvinism shown by the Peninsulares and their Creole descendants for the Mestizo and Milato campesino underlings…(at least when they are quiescent and obedient to their “betters”).
And so, according to “Don” Navarette, you know that those “Latinos” do so LOVE their tequila…even if the Latinos happen to be Argentinians or Peruvians or Dominicans, who show no particular fondness for the Mexican rot-gut.
If you read this article and from its copy get the vibe you would expect to get from listening to a “Kentucky Cunnel” sitting on his verandah, sipping sweet iced-tea and discussing his slaves or sharecroppers as they worked in the hot summer sun, then you wouldn’t be far off the mark of Navarette’s mindset.
In this context,the USA is a veritable latter-day Canada for the poor mixed-race schlub from Guatemala who is simply trying to make enough money to feed his family…and has to get away from the Navarettes and their ilk to do so.
When you get THAT reality, you will understand that we cannot solve our illegal immigration problem without honestly addressing why much of Latin America is such a governmental shit-hole.
Navarette’s prescription is to re-establish a de-facto “Alta California”…and thus recreate the exact same conditions that are causing the human exodus within our nation.
Put simply, in the 1850′s folks like Navarette would have been akin to a White Alabama expat living in Canada who would have liked to have seen Canada become Alabama, instead of fixing Alabama’s own “Peculiar Institution”.
Well I’m happy people won’t be voting according to last names or anything like that. With black folks voting by skin color to the tune of 96% in the last Presidential election, they aren’t exactly making the argument they are a topic oriented group of voters.
That makes racist white people like me the only large racial group that doesn’t see itself as a large racial group; we are defined as such by default and by other not racist people – me, I call myself by a radical title: a human being. Silly morons we white folks are, we voted on the issues and there is not even talk of a party forming based on whites. If white folks had not voted on the issues and did as Latinos and black folks do, Obama would be voting ‘present’ somewhere in Illinois or selling Chicago’s parking meters to Wahabbi Jeffersonians..
If I knew any white folks who voted by skin tones I’d put a Nazi helmet on them and then hit them on the head with a big mallet like Jerry uses against Tom. There are no associations of white journalists and so forth which exist ad nauseum among Latinos, Asians and black folks.
La Raza and the NAACP better get out the mallets instead of slurping this nonsense up with a big spoon. 500,000 a year, huh? Welcome to the great melting pot with oil and water all not combining into a wonderful brew of self interest which posits that white people are racists who are told by minority people who obviously believe skin color does matter that skin color doesn’t matter. I do not like being told not to stare at the sun by people who stare at the sun; I do not stare at the sun in the first place.
This is a mixed message and I am confused. White people who don’t vote by skin color are racists and other people who do organize and vote by skin color are not. I am pretty sure this type of arithmetic results in a false narrative that I looked up in a dictionary: it is called being a hypocritical idiot.
I cannot go to Mexico City and dress like Uncle Sam and march in the streets and tell them what they should do and that they are racists if they don’t do what I tell them they should do and by the way could I use their bathroom forever because I forgot how to build one and space ships too when being terrorized by terrible men with cannon and beards and centaurs.
I am angry now and want to take a saw like Bugs Bunny did and saw away Latin America so it can float away, maybe near to Africa so they can swap stories about how they’d all be living the high life if their natural penchant for creating wonderful societies and inventions hadn’t been unhappily short circuited by evil white people in unattractive pith helmets who drank tea stolen from yet other gifted geniuses who were really unhappy at being stopped from having their wives thrown on bonfires when they were killed by muslims which is a whole other group of yet more disgruntled science majors still angry at having their astrolabes taken from them so they didn’t kill the native Americans with centaurs instead of us.
Unfortunately Earth is fresh out of land. So I cannot move somewhere where my equals who hate me will not follow. Why people who are my equals would need to follow me around like a puppy is something I haven’t figured out yet nor why they hate me just cuz I want to be alone. I have my own culture and it is very nice and clean and doesn’t stink because we put all our sewers underground instead of letting our kids drink from them while we wash our asses right next to them.
I really don’t care who is President as long as I don’t have to think capitalism consists of standing in front of a cart of oranges from dusk til dawn or selling Bic pens and razors on a tarp next to a smelly road that has signs with a picture of a smelly dictator or “El Presidente” who heads a government that makes brochures that shows all people who look like Aztecs how to leave the country and go to another one.
Not sure how giving in to another hyphenated-Americans special interest group will help America, but that doesn’t stop any and every fool from writing a column with the usual implied threats of political doom for the party that doesn’t give them what they demand.
I doubt that law abiding citizens of any ethnic background are in favor of amnesty. The polls I have seen just do not support the claims. But it wouldn’t be a shock to find out that those who are here illegally support “comprehensive immigration reform”, aka amnesty.
When these so-called polls that show Latinos favor “comprehensive” reform are taken, do we know whether the respondents are here legally or not ? (Of course not)
Believe these dishonest polls and writers at your own peril– and the peril of our nation.
Why does PJM continue posting this racist rubbish?
You should write to them and tell them how how feel about race-based politics, which is the only thing Navarette writes.
Ruben the Race Victim can go jerk himself. I couldn’t give a rat’s a$$ what the whiny race victims of any color or flavor of the month think about their racial grievances. Grow up, quit your fu**ing whining, and go about your lives. Demand liberty, justice and economic opportunity and guard each of these freedoms with your last dying breath.
You want to be Americans? Just do it. But don’t ask America to reward you because of the color of your skin, or whether or not you have a vagina. Nobody gives a fu**. If you’re here illegally…don’t come whining to us when the winds shift and citizens decide to throw you out. We allow millions of new citizens every decade, and welcome them and accept them.
But Ruben the Race Victim wants special rights and unrestricted entrance to any Mexican who can sneak across our border. Apparently this racist hater believes that his fellow Mexicans should be given priority to the U.S. before Africans, Asians, Arabs, Europeans, or Australians. Up yours, Navarette — illegals can get in line like everyone else.
“And with 500,000 new voters joining the rolls every year, as many as 12 million Latinos are expected to vote in 2012.”
Wouldn’t it be nice if, as a cost-saving measure, ballots are only printed in English once again? And that translators and/or people to read to those too illiterate to read for themselve at the voting booths are banned?
How many of those self-described Latinos-who-are-not-Americans-first remain to vote then?
I agree absolutely. Latino Americans who INSIST upon cramming Amnesty down America’s throat should break away from their Democrat handlers and form their own single-interest party. It would make perfect sense. And I like the tequila image. Might I suggest a mescal worm as the new party’s mascot, and “Panama Red” as the party theme song (much as the drunken “Happy Days Are Here Again” emblematizes the jackass party).
Generalizations about “Latinos” are misleading, and suggestions that a party appeal to “them” simultaneously are no less absurd than suggestions that a party appeal to Christians, Jews, Muslims, Asians, Europeans, drug addicts and alcoholics in similar fashion.
Some Latinos legally in the United States resent those illegally in the United States. Many Cuban and Venezuelan exiles in the United States are essentially conservative and few see things the same as those present principally to get more money and welfare befits than possible in their home countries or to deposit anchor babies; drug lords, drug operatives and other career criminals from Mexico and elsewhere in Latin America doubtless have different views than do many others.
Unfortunately for most and for the United States, many Latinos are recent arrivals from countries with long traditions of corruption and oppression but with no tradition of democracy. Cuba and Venezuela are just a few examples; there are many others. Some left for the United States because of that, and some did not.
The likely result of attempting to attract everyone as though all were the same is simply to irritate more than are appeased, as the present administration seems to have done with great flair. It would be better to try to attract those with notions in common with a party’s basic principles by campaigning for things likely to be achievable and which they are likely to agree would be beneficial for them and for their adopted country. Instant citizenship for illegal aliens is by no means the answer: until they understand and accept the constitutional and legal underpinnings of the United States, they would be even more damaging as voters than they are in their present capacities; there are already more than enough who don’t understand and accept those basic principles. Were the Republican Party to “reach out” to la Raza and its unhappy crew, it would garner few voters and likely lose far more.
The moon is not available and promising it is counterproductive, and not only for the party doing it; particularly if it is a major party, it is harmful to the country as well.
Mr. Miller:
“…are no less absurd than suggestions that a party appeal to Christians, Jews, Muslims, Asians, Europeans, drug addicts and alcoholics in similar fashion.”
Aye, I fully agree, and yet…there be the DemocRats, still.
Sometimes you just have to stand in awe and ask yourself:
“WTF? I mean really…WT F’ing F?”
Aye, Awe. But not Shock and Awe; maybe Disgust and Awe, but it has ceased to be shocking.
“Latinos are starting to realize that Democrats are not responsive to their concerns,” Torres said.
Besides unfettered immigration from Latin America and amnesty for illegals, what are Latinos’ “concerns” exactly?
Ban the American flag from High schools and public buildings. It hurts there feelings.
Mina #33, please do not stop commenting on PJM. You and
others supply a wealth of information and knowledge to those
of us who read the comments.
There are those of us (me) who rely on the posts and comments
to help us develop educated responses to those we encounter with
opposing views.
Mr.Navarrette offers each of us the opportunity to learn how to
take apart racist columns/statements and deliver a “mallet” to their
racism.
Latinos are just going to have to get over thinking that there will be anything like a full blown debate on immigration as long as the borders of the nation are not secure. Further, they will have to give up the “dream” of amnesty and low cost college for illegals while American citizens and green card holders will have to pay full rate for college.
I write the foregoing as a supporter of high levels of legal education because I know that America needs it. But to think it will happen while the borders are not secure is dreaming. Further, I have admired Ruben Navarrette”s writing very much and agree with him on this issue more than I disagree but border security and amnesty have to be shoved off the table.
After World War II Congress passed the McCarron-Walters Act which placed immigration on a national origins basis. (It also allowed Democ-rats to sponsor private immigration bills and the scene in “Godfather I” in which Don Vito Corelone says, “Give it to the Jew Congressman from the next district [probably Arthur Klein] because we don’t want our Pisano [either Vito Marcantonio or Sam DiFalco] to carry this one,” is instructive of how that system worked.) Then the Democ-rat Congress elected in 1964 passed the 1965 Immigration Act which allowed all the Arab terrorist supporters into our nation. Now we have a situation where we need legal immigrants but the supporters of illegal immigrants (The Democ-rats) have so poisoned the atmosphere that a logical debate on immigration is impossible.
I guess we’ll just have to limp on.
As usual, Navarrette writes “from a Latino perspective.” Is he not an American? A U.S. citizen? Does he ever write an article that is not about “la raza?”
Why must it be about seeing which political party can hand out the most benefits and privileges? Do Latino voters want liberty? Or “free stuff” paid for by non-Latinos? I am tired of hyphenated people. We are all individuals, and we all deserve as much freedom as possible and as little government interference in our lives as possible. That is what the Tea Party advocates. Why are Latinos not eager to support the same? Have they something against freedom and limited government? If they do, they should have stayed in Latin America, where it is easy to find limited freedoms and unlimited government.
Navarrette’s writing, as usual, is the same one-note samba. Like Michelle Obama’s Princeton thesis and Barry Obama-Soetoro’s actions, he sees everything from a racial perspective. I suggest he attempt thinking like an individual, rather than as a part of a group. He would not only get more readers and fans, he might even become a happier person.
Navarette is a despicable,(no pun intended). bigoted, racist punk. He excites anger at those he pretends to support; and all for a dollar. He lives “white”; not in a barrio; not thinking and speaking spanish; not
following any cultural pattern except to lie constantly and and to hold out his tin cup. We call such, “Mordida”. No mordida, no negocio- no bribes, no business. He doesn’t really believe that illegals are entitled to anything, or he’d have some sleeping in his guestroom, and sharing his rather substantial income with the less fortunate. And, his name ends in a diminuitive, ie, tiny, delicate one- does that suggest something about him?
Who gets the most votes, simple who gives out the most goodies.
Why on earth should the US be run for the benefit of XXX, when XXX are neither taxpayers nor citizens? It doesn’t matter if the subject du jour is Somali refugees or undocumented Latinos or the UN or Arab League. It doesn’t seem to matter if you live inside or outside of the US, if you’re friendly or hostile, if you share or reject our values — the US is supposed to hop when anyone says, “jump!”
I feel a Cee Lo moment coming on.
“Right now, the idea exists only in theory. It’s been mentioned in articles and speeches, but there is no formal apparatus.”
Written by yet another clueless Bolshe with no idea how the Tea Party works. For that matter why the emphasis on tequila? Many Hispanics aren’t from Mexico.
Latinos may be growing in physical size, but they’re still not likely to vote. That’s true for other minority groups as well. At the top of my head, even in California only about 20% of Latinos are likely voters.
The Lations (and the Tequila party) would sldo have to contend with a nation that’s still somewhat center right and growing restless over the catastrophe that’s raging outside their borders. Americans are ambivalent over some spending cuts, but entitlements and welfare for illegals won’t be one of them.
Latinos have to eventually realize that they can’t throw around their growing influence to achieve something. They have to win the hearts of the rest of the nation. You’d be surprised at how evenly split other minorities can be on immigration issues. They should consider a paradox preseneted by VDH – what do you gain by insulting the very host nation that you’re desperately trying to cling unto?
While we senselessly worry about one vote, one time by the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, we have a nuanced parallel to this type of fear happening here in the United States.
It is one vote, all the time, by skin color and culture and it is every bit as insidious and it is coming from Latinos. It is a bullying tactic in that Latinos are illegally swamping the demographic of the United States of America and are helping each other bring even more in. The more there are the more politicians fear the Latino vote and the more they fear the vote the less likely anything will ever be done about immigration. It is a circular type of enabling and logic accompanied by a spiral of unbridled immigration.
And what are the goals of Latinos other than what is good for Latinos? Will we see a nod toward the greater good for all? Don’t hold your breath for that one. Simple observation of the history of Latin America has shown what the future will be in America.
The original European Spanish conquerers and colonizers have largely been subsumed and absorbed into the population of Latin America. As the original type of ethnic aristocratic class structure disappeared, so too have the races of the New and Old World’s mixed and the native Americans have come out on top in most countries. Anyone who knows anything about Latin America and who was there years ago knows that there once existed a grace and humbleness that the culture’s had in common. Although Latin America has always had its problems, it was never as much in trouble as it is now due to a coarsening of the cultures and over population.
What was always a dog eat dog world in many respects has turned, in the case of Mexico, into a de facto civil war with casualties easily greater than Libya and Egypt combined and it is getting worse. Guatemala and El Salvador are hotbeds of casually brutal youth gangs and deadly organized crime. In common with Mexico, Guatemala no longer exerts sovereignty over some of its territory. This was the case during the civil war that was at its worst at the beginning of the 1980′s; I know, I was there. 15 years later it was crime that was the culprit as every store in downtown Guatemala City had men with shotguns in broad daylight standing in front of them for protection and I was there. Now, another 15 years on it is much worse and crime and drug battles are endemic in Guatemala and Mexico is even worse. The difference between the highland border between Guatemala and Mexico from 1979 to 1998 is so great it is unrecognizable. It is a conduit for illegal immigrants and an entire infrastructure has grown and long been in place to facilitate this. Multiply that one instance many fold all over Latin America.
This is what is coming and has come to the United States. At best our new Latino immigrants are people steeped in fraud from the moment they illegally, unethically and immorally cross our borders and this continues in every aspect of their illegal lives. At best, they are a people with no history or interest in Constitutions, democracy or the greater good; they come from cultures that have never shown any real interest in such things.
At worst, they range from petty thugs and murderers in and out of jail combined with soldiers working for drug cartels and involved in every crime imaginable from kidnapping, murder and on down the ladder.
I have spent 2 years of my life all over Latin America on multiple visits spanning 20 years and I have seen the changes and I know what I’m talking about; I speak Spanish and Portuguese.
Besides cities and areas of land that Mexico cannot exert sovereignty over, cities like Caracas, Sao Paolo, Bogota and more have areas within their own city limits that are no go zones for the police and once again sovereignty cannot be exerted.
The Complexo do Alamão shanty slum in Rio de Janeiro was recently cleaned up after a long and protracted battle between the police and drug gangs. This happened because of the upcoming soccer World Cup followed by the Olympics in Rio. Alemão oversees the route from the airport into the city and officials were obviously concerned about this. The problem is that Alemão is only one of literally dozens of slums in Rio and hundreds across Latin America where sovereignty by the gov’t's have been lost to a overpopulated underclass of criminals that is endemic in many countries south of our border.
Liberals and our politicians don’t have the faintest clue as to what is going on. I honestly believe that many really think the illegal immigrants are ‘hard working’ (whatever that really means) people here to make an honest living but they are as much a danger to this society as muslims for entirely different reasons. Look how Latinos agitate strictly through self-interest; hell, the fact that they are here in the first place and in the manner they are here should tell you all you need to know. Latinos generally speaking don’t give a damn about America.
Instead of sharia Latinos acknowledge no law other than the laws they are accustomed to in their home countries. Illegal shanty towns that steal electricity and rob the narrow middle class are so bad that São Paolo, Brazil is the biggest seller of bullet proof cars in the world; that business is its own culture there and this is totally unknown in the U.S.
We are crazy to sit back and allow this to happen here in our country. It is we who should be out in the streets waving our flags and not liberals chanting “Down with the U.S.” and illegal aliens marching with Mexican flags. Senate hearings should be held with a view to ending all immigration, deporting those already here and facts laid out about the reality of life in Latin America.
I could mention much, much more but this is not the place. Don’t let people shout us down as profiler’s and racists when all we want is peace and order and our tax dollars and jobs not robbed by people who have absolutely no business being here and should be back in their own countries trying to make them better places to live if they are such staunch Jeffersonians; they are not – they are culturally addicted to the easy path and the illegal one because that is what their legacy has been for 500 years; everyone simply does whatever they can get away with and anyone who has ever spent any time in Latin America knows this to be true.
I have written in broad strokes and generalities but I believe they are true as far as they go and the headlines and information we have access to about incarceration rates and endemic fraud by this community as well as their utter lack of concern for anything but themselves is true as far as it goes. Look at the National Council of La Raza. I have read every single word on their website and they actively participate in showing illegals how to flout our laws and circumvent them – neither they nor their constituency have any interest in law or order; their overriding concern is in skin color and last names and that is how they will and have voted. This is utter madness and our politicians are selling the future of this country right down the river. Add Africans with the same legacy and muslims with an even worse one and we are in trouble.
Every one of you should tell anyone who is running for any office that if they are not in favor of ending immigration totally and deporting those illegals already here that they cannot have your vote. Act now while their is still something to save.
http://www.moonbattery.com/archives/2011/03/reconquistadors-9.html
Hey Ruben – did you check this one out? Where your “Latino” La Raza buds make this clip of black American Ted Hayes because like many AMERICANS he is fed up with having his property stolen in order to feed the parasitic “Latino” monster? It’s very interesting, Rube. Check out pics of Mr. Haynes depicted as a monkey with a banana, pics of a black man hanging from a tree, and the ubiquitous symbol of racism, the noose, dangled here and there in the production. You might even get a thrill over the poster that says get out Gringo. The internet continues to reveal you to be a liar and a shill, a hater of Americans and a bootlicker for the left. You can’t fake it anymore, Rube. Too much out there that continues to unmask your hypocrisy, deceit, and malevolence.
I am still trying to understand what the latinos want with fixing ‘broken immigration reform’ and what the real substance and consequences of their desires consist of. Maybe if we knew more about it it would help.
They want our cities to become dumps like Mexico City.
They want squalor and lawlessness just like they left in Mexico.
They want to be controlled just like lots of blacks are by a handful of race baiters and bigots.
In short, they want just what they left Mexico for, but they want it financed by us.
Just don’t have any use for any of them any more.
Like Muslims, they decent ones stay quiet and condone the behavior of the radicals with their silence.
Sorry, no vacancy!
I don’t know why anyone even bothers reading Navarette. He’s clearly a racist, and he’s definitely latino first, American … a very distant second, if at all.
Mr.Navarrete, as an American of Hispanic ancestry I am part of the 35% who vote Republican because I have no choice. Ronald Reagan signed the 1986 Amnesty with a provision for border security, and he, and every other Republican and Democrat have ignored it. It is the law, but…
The Americans of Hispanic ancestry that I know, dislike illegals, and dislike liberals of any ancestry. Progressives, socialist, etc., are every American’s enemy. So maybe it would be a good thing to have a “Tequila Party”, since most of your people already vote socialist anyway,and you’ll may get the “hang over you deserve. Personally I believe Dolores Huerta, Cesar Chavez, Hugo Chavez and Mao, studied the same catechism.
As more states pass voter ID laws the latino (read illegal) vote will become less relevant. I offer the advice of Edward Abbey from his essay Immigration and Liberal Taboos (1988): “Stop every campesino at our southern border, give him a handgun, a good rifle, and a case of ammunition, and send him home. He will know what to do with our gifts and good wishes. The people know who their enemies are.” http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/914504/posts
You go Ruben! Keep acting as cheerleader for the latino(mexican) alienation/invasion that will lead to balkanization, virulent social divisiveness, and the destruction of the USA through ethnic cleansing and separatism!Keep it up,Jackass!
The only way to stop discrimination is to stop discriminating. Who is this ‘latino’ you speak of? Is he Mexican? Mayan? Incan? Gautemanean? Argentinean? Brazilian? American? Are you saying that all these people are homogeneous in thought and deed?
So you want to help a specific group of people how? By playing on their seperateness? Good old democrat divide and conquer.
How about just doing things that help ALL PEOPLE. And do nothing that helps any specific group – that being discrimination.
Now, Reuben, can you talk about your fellow Americans, and what they need/want?
Thought not.