Comments on: Four Blago Scandal Rules for the GOP http://pjmedia.com/blog/four-rules-the-gop-should-follow-in-the-blago-scandal/ Thu, 16 Feb 2012 03:26:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Rashputin http://pjmedia.com/blog/four-rules-the-gop-should-follow-in-the-blago-scandal/#comment-172358 Rashputin Sat, 20 Dec 2008 08:17:56 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=41861#comment-172358 I think the republicans should be polite and quiet so that a democrat can emerge and take credit for cleaning up the mess in Chicago. It won't help the republicans any and may even hurt them, but at least they won't be ham fisted. have a nice day I think the republicans should be polite and quiet so that a democrat can emerge and take credit for cleaning up the mess in Chicago. It won’t help the republicans any and may even hurt them, but at least they won’t be ham fisted.

have a nice day

]]> By: liberty4usa http://pjmedia.com/blog/four-rules-the-gop-should-follow-in-the-blago-scandal/#comment-172221 liberty4usa Sat, 20 Dec 2008 02:04:36 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=41861#comment-172221 How great it would be if our leaders exercised honesty? http://thenma.org/blogs//index.php/libertyforusa/2008/12/19/the-new-forked-tongue How great it would be if our leaders exercised honesty?
http://thenma.org/blogs//index.php/libertyforusa/2008/12/19/the-new-forked-tongue

]]> By: vivo http://pjmedia.com/blog/four-rules-the-gop-should-follow-in-the-blago-scandal/#comment-171738 vivo Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:41:40 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=41861#comment-171738 49. misanthropicus: Your hands are tied, my hands are tied. The problem seems to be that the lawyers don't have a clear picture of the legalities about what is a "natural born citizen". The Constitution did not define clearly what that is. So i say, let them earn their pay and waste money finding out something just to get rid of the guy. If there is no money, nothing moves. Maybe they create an Amendment an elect Arnold president one of these days . . . :) Oh, yeah! Arnold for 2012!! . . . 49. misanthropicus:

Your hands are tied, my hands are tied. The problem seems to be that the lawyers don’t have a clear picture of the legalities about what is a “natural born citizen”. The Constitution did not define clearly what that is.

So i say, let them earn their pay and waste money finding out something just to get rid of the guy. If there is no money, nothing moves. Maybe they create an Amendment an elect Arnold president one of these days . . . :)

Oh, yeah! Arnold for 2012!! . . .

]]> By: misanthropicus http://pjmedia.com/blog/four-rules-the-gop-should-follow-in-the-blago-scandal/#comment-171479 misanthropicus Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:41:09 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=41861#comment-171479 RE #46/vivo: "[...] But again, is somebody going to make an unbiased investigation? Meanwhile, it sounds like smearing. Why can’t people say something only after they have ALL the facts? [...}" vivo, I and countless others would love to have a closer look at the documents in cause and come with a fair and objective review - yet NOTHING IS AVAILABLE! All the documents I mentioned in my post #38 (which are just a few from a longer list), are SIMPLY UNDER LOCK. Anyone who wanted to examine McCain's equivalent records had ample opportunity to do so, courtesy to RNC and the McCain campaign - ALL, ALL RECORDS, no exception. Yet no record concerning Obama's intriguing career is available, and his group's attitude in this matter adds to the awkwardness of this situation - so far they have already racked close to $1 million in legal fees, and this strictly for stonewalling! Why did they chose this costly venue when there are much simpler and winsome ways to handle this? So, no wonder that rumors, frustrations and calls for clarification are growing, and the political costs of this strategy will be soon recognizable. So, again, am I wrong to use the name of Soetero instead of Obama? Obviously not, the lack of forthcoming of the One who is the object of this justified scrutiny justifies my onomastical choice - and we'll sure learn more about this. RE #46/vivo: “[...] But again, is somebody going to make an unbiased investigation? Meanwhile, it sounds like smearing. Why can’t people say something only after they have ALL the facts? […}”

vivo, I and countless others would love to have a closer look at the documents in cause and come with a fair and objective review – yet NOTHING IS AVAILABLE! All the documents I mentioned in my post #38 (which are just a few from a longer list), are SIMPLY UNDER LOCK.
Anyone who wanted to examine McCain’s equivalent records had ample opportunity to do so, courtesy to RNC and the McCain campaign – ALL, ALL RECORDS, no exception.
Yet no record concerning Obama’s intriguing career is available, and his group’s attitude in this matter adds to the awkwardness of this situation – so far they have already racked close to $1 million in legal fees, and this strictly for stonewalling! Why did they chose this costly venue when there are much simpler and winsome ways to handle this?
So, no wonder that rumors, frustrations and calls for clarification are growing, and the political costs of this strategy will be soon recognizable.

So, again, am I wrong to use the name of Soetero instead of Obama? Obviously not, the lack of forthcoming of the One who is the object of this justified scrutiny justifies my onomastical choice – and we’ll sure learn more about this.

]]> By: kevin c http://pjmedia.com/blog/four-rules-the-gop-should-follow-in-the-blago-scandal/#comment-171443 kevin c Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:29:07 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=41861#comment-171443 ENOUGH ABOUT BEING "NICE". MCSHAME DIDNT WANT TO MENTION HUSSIENS MIDDLE NAME,DIDNT WANT TO BRING UP "REV" WRIGHT, DIDNT WANT TO DISCUSS AYERS. HE WANTED TO BE "CIVIL". LOOK WHAT IT GOT HIM. BUSH WANTED TO SET A "NEW TONE" IN DC. LOOK WHAT IT GOT HIM. FUUNY ,BUT WHEN A REPUB BREAKS THE LAW, THEY FACE THE CONSEQUENCES. IVE SEEN NO SUCH CONSEQUENCES FOR THE LIKES OF JIM MCGREEVEY, ELIOT SPITZER, BOB TORRICELLI(HE WAS REWARDED INSTEAD), THE LADY IN OHIO WHO VIOLATED JOE THE PLUMBERS RIGHTS, TED KENNEDY IN THE MARY JO KOPECHNE AFFAIR, CHARLIE RANGEL, HARRY REIDS SHADY LAND DEALS, ALCEE HASTINGS(AN IMPEACHED FEDERAL JUDGE NO LESS) WILLIAM THE REFRIGERATOR JEFFERSON, BRIAN MAHONNEY, DIANE FINDSWINE AND HER HUBBYS GETTING GOVT CONTRACTS STEERED TO HIM BY HIS WIFE, JOHN MURTHAS CORRUPTION FOR MANY YEARS. AND THE ENTIRE CHICAGO MACHINE WHICH SOMEHOW ALWAYS MANAGES TO STOP SHORT OF WHATEVER MAYOR DALEY HOLDS THE OFFICE. SO SPARE ME THE "NICE" BALONEY. LEO DUROCHER WAS RIGHT WHEN HE SAID NICE GUYS FINISH LAST. ENOUGH ABOUT BEING “NICE”. MCSHAME DIDNT WANT TO MENTION HUSSIENS MIDDLE NAME,DIDNT WANT TO BRING UP “REV” WRIGHT, DIDNT WANT TO DISCUSS AYERS. HE WANTED TO BE “CIVIL”. LOOK WHAT IT GOT HIM. BUSH WANTED TO SET A “NEW TONE” IN DC. LOOK WHAT IT GOT HIM. FUUNY ,BUT WHEN A REPUB BREAKS THE LAW, THEY FACE THE CONSEQUENCES. IVE SEEN NO SUCH CONSEQUENCES FOR THE LIKES OF JIM MCGREEVEY, ELIOT SPITZER, BOB TORRICELLI(HE WAS REWARDED INSTEAD), THE LADY IN OHIO WHO VIOLATED JOE THE PLUMBERS RIGHTS, TED KENNEDY IN THE MARY JO KOPECHNE AFFAIR, CHARLIE RANGEL, HARRY REIDS SHADY LAND DEALS, ALCEE HASTINGS(AN IMPEACHED FEDERAL JUDGE NO LESS) WILLIAM THE REFRIGERATOR JEFFERSON, BRIAN MAHONNEY, DIANE FINDSWINE AND HER HUBBYS GETTING GOVT CONTRACTS STEERED TO HIM BY HIS WIFE, JOHN MURTHAS CORRUPTION FOR MANY YEARS. AND THE ENTIRE CHICAGO MACHINE WHICH SOMEHOW ALWAYS MANAGES TO STOP SHORT OF WHATEVER MAYOR DALEY HOLDS THE OFFICE. SO SPARE ME THE “NICE” BALONEY. LEO DUROCHER WAS RIGHT WHEN HE SAID NICE GUYS FINISH LAST.

]]> By: JeanE http://pjmedia.com/blog/four-rules-the-gop-should-follow-in-the-blago-scandal/#comment-171370 JeanE Thu, 18 Dec 2008 16:03:30 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=41861#comment-171370 Republicans do not/ will not get any slack from the media, therefore they cannot get away with many of the things the DNC does. The secret, ironically enough, is to avoid letting partisanship intrude into scandal. This is not a matter of national security, but a scandal involving the home state of the newly elected President. People will not respond to an obviously partisan attack on a recently elected President, but they will respond to arguments that the American people deserve the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and that any action/ decision which even may conceal the truth from the American people should be challenged. Republicans would also do well to emphasize that, while there is no evidence of wrongdoing on Obama's part, it is best to bring everything out into the clear promptly so that this issue doesn't interfere with the success of his administration. The GOP makes much better progress when they are seen as working on behalf of ALL Americans, not just the one's they agree with. Republicans do not/ will not get any slack from the media, therefore they cannot get away with many of the things the DNC does. The secret, ironically enough, is to avoid letting partisanship intrude into scandal. This is not a matter of national security, but a scandal involving the home state of the newly elected President. People will not respond to an obviously partisan attack on a recently elected President, but they will respond to arguments that the American people deserve the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, and that any action/ decision which even may conceal the truth from the American people should be challenged.
Republicans would also do well to emphasize that, while there is no evidence of wrongdoing on Obama’s part, it is best to bring everything out into the clear promptly so that this issue doesn’t interfere with the success of his administration. The GOP makes much better progress when they are seen as working on behalf of ALL Americans, not just the one’s they agree with.

]]> By: vivo http://pjmedia.com/blog/four-rules-the-gop-should-follow-in-the-blago-scandal/#comment-171355 vivo Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:19:36 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=41861#comment-171355 44. misanthropicus: If what you're saying is true, something is fishy. But again, is somebody going to make an unbiased investigation? Meanwhile, it sounds like smearing. Why can't people say something only after they have ALL the facts? 44. misanthropicus:

If what you’re saying is true, something is fishy. But again, is somebody going to make an unbiased investigation? Meanwhile, it sounds like smearing. Why can’t people say something only after they have ALL the facts?

]]> By: vivo http://pjmedia.com/blog/four-rules-the-gop-should-follow-in-the-blago-scandal/#comment-171348 vivo Thu, 18 Dec 2008 15:09:20 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=41861#comment-171348 43. misanthropicus: "the vetting process in this situation is ENTIRELY done by the party that supports/registers the candidate for presidency - believe it or not." I didn't know that. Then I'll do as you: wait and see. But, aside from the technicalities, I believe Obama will be a good president. 43. misanthropicus:

“the vetting process in this situation is ENTIRELY done by the party that supports/registers the candidate for presidency – believe it or not.”

I didn’t know that. Then I’ll do as you: wait and see.

But, aside from the technicalities, I believe Obama will be a good president.

]]> By: misanthropicus http://pjmedia.com/blog/four-rules-the-gop-should-follow-in-the-blago-scandal/#comment-171315 misanthropicus Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:48:23 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=41861#comment-171315 RE #42/#38 vivo: "I don't do this kind of research [...]" Vivo, if those questions are too difficult to answer take my last offer, which also relates with the current Blago affair & the way the RNC should deal with it: Q: when the Chicagio U hospital was queried about Michelle Soetero’s sudden raise of $250.000 just days after Barry Soetero was elected for the US Senate, the hospital answered to the effect that “Michelle deserves the money, and all other 16 board members got the same raise at the same time”. Now, we have a 15 more people getting a $250.000 rise, which gives us a total of $3.25 millions for sitting in a board - nice payroll page for a non profit University Hospital. Vivo, can you name and show who else besides Michelle Soetero got that kind of raise at that time at the Chicago U hospital? Emmanuel's wife? And was that "change we can believe in" ghost hovering over the affair? Or was it Hillary's spirit presiding over the entire thing - remember, Hillary herself made a, quite surprising kill, on the commodities market there some years ago. RE #42/#38 vivo: “I don’t do this kind of research [...]”

Vivo, if those questions are too difficult to answer take my last offer, which also relates with the current Blago affair & the way the RNC should deal with it:

Q: when the Chicagio U hospital was queried about Michelle Soetero’s sudden raise of $250.000 just days after Barry Soetero was elected for the US Senate, the hospital answered to the effect that “Michelle deserves the money, and all other 16 board members got the same raise at the same time”.
Now, we have a 15 more people getting a $250.000 rise, which gives us a total of $3.25 millions for sitting in a board – nice payroll page for a non profit University Hospital.
Vivo, can you name and show who else besides Michelle Soetero got that kind of raise at that time at the Chicago U hospital? Emmanuel’s wife?

And was that “change we can believe in” ghost hovering over the affair? Or was it Hillary’s spirit presiding over the entire thing – remember, Hillary herself made a, quite surprising kill, on the commodities market there some years ago.

]]> By: misanthropicus http://pjmedia.com/blog/four-rules-the-gop-should-follow-in-the-blago-scandal/#comment-171310 misanthropicus Thu, 18 Dec 2008 13:29:43 +0000 http://pajamasmedia.com/?p=41861#comment-171310 RE vivo R# 41/#38: "You mean he [Soetero] fooled 100 million voters, Homeland Security, the CIA, FBI, Senate, etc.?" Vivo sweetie, the vetting process in this situation is ENTIRELY done by the party that supports/registers the candidate for presidency - believe it or not. There is no outside vetting whatsoever and that's why all lawsuits trying to draw in this matter state secretaries fail. What happened is, the Dems rushed at the golden boy, did a superficial vetting job, then it turned out that the gold is just polished brass - I do not discard here the possibility of authentic malversation, i.e., considering Howard Dean's "adventurous" nature I wouldn't be surprised to hear that he was aware about Soetero's ineligibility but he took the risk to push him ahead. vivo, relax: the matter is far of being resolved as you Soeterotrolls hope that is/will be - time is on our sides, there are many things going on. Patience, and remember my cri de guerre: Jericho didn't fall at the first blare of horns, did it? RE vivo R# 41/#38: “You mean he [Soetero] fooled 100 million voters, Homeland Security, the CIA, FBI, Senate, etc.?”

Vivo sweetie, the vetting process in this situation is ENTIRELY done by the party that supports/registers the candidate for presidency – believe it or not. There is no outside vetting whatsoever and that’s why all lawsuits trying to draw in this matter state secretaries fail.
What happened is, the Dems rushed at the golden boy, did a superficial vetting job, then it turned out that the gold is just polished brass – I do not discard here the possibility of authentic malversation, i.e., considering Howard Dean’s “adventurous” nature I wouldn’t be surprised to hear that he was aware about Soetero’s ineligibility but he took the risk to push him ahead.

vivo, relax: the matter is far of being resolved as you Soeterotrolls hope that is/will be – time is on our sides, there are many things going on.
Patience, and remember my cri de guerre: Jericho didn’t fall at the first blare of horns, did it?

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