Fort Hood Lawmaker Grills FBI Official: At What Point Is It ‘Islamic Terrorism’?
“Was political correctness a reason why this lead was not aggressively pursued?” Wolf asked. “…I periodically have a number of FBI agents come up to me, as you know, my district is in Northern Virginia, will tell me that they believe there is a political correctness that is encroaching into the Department of Justice and the FBI.”
“The report did not find political correctness was in any way, shape, or form responsible for his lack of going forward with the interview,” Giuliano said.
Wolf responded that during the congressional recess he’d like to speak alone with the Washington FBI officials about the political correctness question.
“I don’t very much buy into the notion of political correctness,” Fattah said. “I think that we have an issue around constitutional correctness when you have an American citizen, the question of whether they can listen to or read something or to associate themselves in some grouping, it’s pretty clear in the Constitution that those things are protected.”
Carter said he was going to steer the FBI official to a line of questioning in line with the concerns posed to him by his constituents.
“We’re talking about people who were killed, many of whom had been deployed two, three, four times fighting in the war against terror, which until recently was the subject matter of why we went to war. It seems to have changed in this administration but in the previous administration, it was the war on terror,” the Texas congressman said. “They went to fight the war on terror that involved people of the Islamic community.”
“Now we’ve got them coming to me and saying, my husband went in harm’s way for this country three times or my son went in harm’s way for this country four times and he gets killed where he’s stationed by a member of his own military who begins his shooting career as a murderer by shouting ‘Allahu Akbar,’” Carter continued. “And it gets investigated by the Department of Defense and they find it was a workforce violence incident.”
The victims’ families, he said, are just having to listen to excuses about why “procedure” didn’t work.
“I am not here to make excuses,” Giuliano said. “We have to be right every time, 100 percent of the time and when we’re not, the consequences are dire.”
Carter asked if those “dire consequences” meant that some heads will roll at the FBI. Giuliano said that the bureau is reviewing the report and any disciplinary action would be decided within 60 to 90 days.
“To the public, oh that’s a different statement. You said when we fail, there are dire consequences,” Carter said. “Of course, we know there are dire consequences, there’s a bunch of dead people stacked up over at Fort Hood right now that are dire consequences.”
Fort Hood’s representative on the Hill said he couldn’t understand why “two of the most important agencies of this government still haven’t defined what happened at Fort Hood by even mentioning that Islamic terrorism had anything to do with it.”
“If he yelled out ‘Jesus Christ is God,’ would they have said Christians were involved? I mean, at what point does it get to be Islamic terrorism? That’s the simple question. Answer that one,” Carter said.
Giuliano said there’s a difference between someone tied to a terrorist group, “which we could not tie Hasan to during our investigation, and somebody who appears to have been radicalized by that.”
As Wolf noted, Carter said, there’s nothing in the report to indicate that the killing spree of which Hasan stands accused “had anything to do with what we spent 10 years fighting a war about.”
“It dumbfounds me,” Carter said. “And you cannot explain it to people who lost their families and now are being treated with this, they were just casualties of the workforce?”
Word comes down from on high to tread carefully when investigating muslims – AKA political correctness. Calling it by any other name is BS.
What will come of this? Some low level managers in FBI will lose a notch or two on the ladder of life – maybe even lose their job or be forced to retire. And 14 good and decent soldiers are dead and many more are wounded in some manner – for life. All for the cause of political correctness which will end up killing us all if these idiots (democrats independents and republicans) don’t recognize we are at war with islamists. And not just a few of them but all of them – unless they care to speak out now…
I won’t hold my breath.
Most of my blog is dedicated to alerting the public to the dangers of what happens when a Radical-in-Chief takes over the helm of the US. The POTUS tasks all other agencies to ‘stand down’, and the rest is history.
In this regard, AG Holder is beyond lawless, and the rest of the agencies follow suit, in one way or another. Terrifying.
There are too many commentaries to cite here which can be found at my blog on this issue. Just go to – http://www.adinakutnicki.com and start reading.
The intertwining/symbiosis between Israel and the US is of special significance.
In other words, few understand what it means when Islamists run amok more than Israelis. After all, we are surrounded by their barbarity and have to find ways to survive!
We, in effect, are the teachers, Americans are the students.
Learn from our many successes, and from our mistakes!
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You can see where they’re going to hang their hats and how they’ll play this out:
“Giuliano said there’s a difference between someone tied to a terrorist group, “which we could not tie Hasan to during our investigation, and somebody who appears to have been radicalized by that.”
AS tho’ to be an Islamic Terrorist you must FIRST be in a “(Terrorist)Group” and, THEN, be “Radicalized” BY that “(Terrorist) Group” and if , for example, you were part of a “(Terrorist) Group” but NOT “Radicalized” by THAT particular “(Terrorist) Group” (and only “Proven” by a “Preponderance of Evidence”)…Well, “We”, says the FBI, etc., “We can’t ‘get-into-his-mind’…Who can know?”
I believe that Senator McCarthy’s original intent has been vindicated — completely justified. There were, in fact, Communist sympathizers in American society, and even in the government. It was his methods which flushed his otherwise-noble clarion call into the sewer.
Someday, we will likewise be told that there were, indeed, other traitors in the ranks — a different time, a different ideology — politicized, Jihadist Islamism.
Some were traitors by commission, Major Hassan, but some were traitors by omission.
A traitor by omission? How can that be?
When the evidence is there, when organizations like MEMRI produce it day after day after day, and those in positions of national security responsibility willfully refuse to see.
Willfully refuse to see.
Aid and Succor …..
Tailgunner Joe was a stain on the history of the United States. He proved nothing, save that he was a liar and a fraud, and the single greatest threat America faced in the post-WWII world. He and his fellow xenophobes really would have destroyed America in order to save it.
Islam is as much of a threat to the USA as we allow it to be. Just as with Communism, it can only flourish where freedom and liberty are constrained. In pressing for Islam’s destruction, you play right into their hands. Just like that idiot did in the HUAC.
‘Scuse me? Everything that McCarthy said was true, and was validated by the Venona intercepts. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2421598/posts. (Don’t confuse McCarthy with the House Un-American Activities Committee.)
Islam is a threat primarily because they use our own laws and traditions against us. We’re so afraid to be called “racists” or “anti-Islam” that we refuse to demand that Muslims adapt to our cultural norms.
So you are saying if we ignore militant Islamists they will cease to be a threat to us? Have you seen what is happening to minorities in Arab Spring countries? The stick your head in the sand method for dealing with a problem is interesting…
If you want to see real xenophobia, just look at how Obama and the Democrats view economic relationships with countries like China, Japan, India, and Mexico.
Get out of here, you concern troll.
Not going anywhere, theocracy-boy.
Wodun, I’m not saying to ignore them. If someone comes at you with a knife, meet them with a knife.
What you DON’T do is let them dictate your life from that point onwards. You don’t let them make you afraid to do what you want. If you do that, they win.
Islam is against the freedoms we enjoy as Americans. If we let them frighten us into abandoning the ideals of personal freedom, turn ourselves into frightened, government shorn sheep, then even if we end up eliminating Islam from the face of the earth, we still LOSE.
McCarthy (yes, and the rest of HUAC) frightened America with a nonsense chimera of their own devising. We almost lost everthing important about being Americans. Going down that road again would be nothing but the most unutterable folly.
By your logic, if somebody comes at you with a knife you should just stand there so you don’t unintentionally violate his civil rights. Don’t hit him because violence never solved anything. Don’t disarm him because he has just as much right to carry a knife as you do. Don’t criticize him for trying to knife you because knifing people is part of his religion and you wouldn’t want to offend those of his co-religionists who don’t happen to have knifed anyone yet. In fact, you should probably apologize to him for making it necessary for him to knife you. Then write the whole thing off as a totally unpredictable fluke.
I dont think Kevin gets it in the least.
He is too invested in his moral and cultural equivalence of all religions, Islam is merely Christianity with a few different superficial rituals.
He will learn the hard way, the folly of his ignorance.
That nice pleasant Muslim shopkeeper down on the corner, will vote for Shariah Law, Muslim Supremacy, Dhimmitude, Blasphemy Law, Death of Apostacy, Women as 1/4th the worth of a man’s testimony, Modesty Police, when the numbers of his co-religionists are great enough. Their metaphysics doesnt support man’s freewill, but submission to God.
He is a fool, twice over. And a sneering fool at that. Which makes him very unpleasant.
Bobby Kennedy, Joe McCarthy’s right hand man…is to be lauded for the good work he and McCarthy did. Both men are imperfect, however they were defending the country from a clear and present dangeer (foreign and domestic).
But alas…
Bugs, how does “If someone comes at you with a knife, meet them with a knife.” translate to “you should just stand there so you don’t unintentionally violate his civil rights”? If you’re going to criticize my logic, I suggest you not start by trying to say that what I said means the exact opposite!
It’s the old addage….”personell is policy.”
Kevin’s problem is that he thinks Classically Liberal Euro-Christians and Arab, North African, and South Asian Muslims are more or less the same, and since things are pretty free here with a 90% + Christian majority, then then a 90% Muslim majority should be the same.
Kevin is ignorant and deluded. (As well as being a concern troll.) Maybe he should visit the 1000s of Muslim no go zones in Europe and ask himself he wants to replicate that in the US (starting with Dearborn). Or maybe we should freeze Muslim immigration to this country, as a sensible policy to permanently disempower Islam here, demographic or political.
But alas…
EV, one point: please stop lying.
Not a single thing you’ve said about what “I believe” has been accurate, or even close. How you get from my truthful statements – “I believe all theocracy is equally bad” – to equating Christianity and Islam, I do not know, nor do I care. But kindly stop saying “what I believe” when you clearly don’t have a clue.
Oh, and there are NO Islamic “no-go zones” in Europe. How do I know? I’ve been there. There are places I won’t go, sure – but they’re not “Islamic”. There are places I won’t go in most cities in the US, too – because they’re economically depressed hellholes, not because they’re “Islamic”.
….and then you opened your mouth and removed all doubt.
if you believe that you are extremely uninformed. do some research.
I strongly suggest the same.
Re your:
“Islam is as much of a threat to the USA as we allow it to be. Just as with Communism, it can only flourish where freedom and liberty are constrained.”
….is completely inverted in good classic agit-propagandistic style.
We Americans refuse to accept that we’re being “hoist on our own petard” of our own political correctness by our own politically allowed infiltrated Muslims/Islamists using our blood-earned ….. UN-constrained….. freedom and liberty against us.
There are ostrich feathers fluttering all over us.
We’ve already dhimmi-fied our media…..it’s a spreading malignancy.
All McCarthy was trying to prove was that there were communists in the US government (i.e. like state dept). It was the House of Un-American Activities Committee that started dragging people in off the streets. In other words, the commies in the democrat party wanted to hijack (HEY! Look at teh shiney thing over here!) the hearings to discredit McCarthy who was right.
Recently declassified FBI files and Soviet archives show that what McCarthy said about the suspects he recommended to the Senate for investigation was generally accurate. Occasionally he made an error, but when he discovered it he corrected it. McCarthy actually underestimated the scale of Soviet penetration of the federal government. We now know that many of those he outed as fellow travelers were in fact Communist Party members or Soviet agents.
Of the more than 100 names he sumbitted to the Senate, how many were innocent of what McCarthy said about them? Name a few. If you need help, you can find the list of names McCarthy submitted to the Senate in the appendix of M. Stanton Evan’s book, Blacklisted by History. I recommend that you read the book. It may not change your opinion of McCarthy, but it can help you avoid embarrassing yourself by posting mininformed comments like yours.
SENATOR Mccarthy was not involved in the HOUSE committee. If you are going to insult the man at least get some of the details right
LOL yeah thats a pretty good point, one I actually keep forgetting too
Oh, please. Learn some actual history before you sound off. McCarthy operated as a special guest of HUAC, and wound up dominating the proceedings, mainly due to his being able to ride roughshod over it’s chairman. When that chairman was replaced with a new, stronger-willed representative he reined in McCarthy (mainly for the very reason you allude to – what was a senator doing effectively running a House comittee?) but by then the damage was done.
Islam is not inside America to be American. Islam is inside America to help change culture. 1400 years of following Muhammad will inform all who wish to understand those who pray towards the Kaabba.
A small point. Has an is a psychiatrist, not a psychologist.
an agency that let “political sensitivities” temper the aggressiveness of their investigation into Army Major Nidal Hassan….legally, whoever suppressed the investigation could be sued for wrongful death. A tort exists and I hope a lawyer takes it up. Lawsuits from victims against the FBI are a necessary corrective against political correctness. Once the lawsuits start, the FBI will stop backing those idiots who made bad decisions
Bingo!
Currently they only get legal pressure from Islamist Front Groups and their Leftwing allies. So of course they bend with that pressure. They need to feel pressure coming from the other direction.
There is no such thing as Islamic terrorism as only misunderstanders of the Religion of Peace Islam, and the Book of Peace and Love called the Koran, and Islam’s peace loving prophet the humanitarian Mohammad could ever do such a thing.
Yeah – you are a feral cat, that’s for sure. Or maybe that’s a feral RAT? yeah, theat suits you better. You are also the infidel here, not the rest of us. The Qur’an is in black and white text and has been translated – unfortunately for you diceivers of Islam – so we know the truth about your efed up false faith.
Islam does not teach the same sort of compassion for the other that virtually every other religion including today’s “secular humanism” teaches. Muslims murder and torture each other without compunction and their own ummah, “brotherhood” has no condemnation to offer. That’s because they don’t value individual human life the way Christian westerners do. It’s not a concept in Islam, which means it’s not a concept in Muslims “hearts and minds”. Their hearts and minds instead understand what Allah teaches them in the Koran, namely, the Collective Will to Power.
When will our leaders understand this? And moreover understand that it is necessary in the end to treat Muslims in the way they themselves understand moral principles? Which ultimately means that they must be beaten back and vanquished and humiliated by a greater strength. That is clearly what they understand. Every move to win their hearts and minds only strengthens them, emboldens them to advance their own peculiar ethics of the world, which couldn’t give a damn about “hearts and minds”, as we understand the term. They will accept the shehada from anyone they can swindle and connive to recite it while at the same time are willing to kill anyone who leaves Islam. Whatever it takes to build the army of Islamic soldiers is what their ethics is about.
There is no way of avoiding the reality that the adults in this world are going to have to act like adults and step up and slap, and in a big way, Muslims who have made of their own societies the equivalent of “Lord of the Flies” and who now threaten to overrun every more advanced society with their mayhem. We’re going to have to come to terms this reality. Either that or it’s simply going to be cruel for all of us, with no kindness in sight, and possibly no one left to come and rescue us off an Island from Hell that in our passivity and cowardice we allowed to be taken over by moral pygmies.
The political establishments and elites in the West will never tackle the real problem, which is Islam itself. This includes Israel’s high and mighty.
Essentially, we have doomed ourselves to endless war with the religion of hate.
Completely agree.
….but I pray that my America somehow wises-up and learns to discern Muslim bulls**ting taqiyya from Muslim reality and its continuing subversion and infiltration…….subverting and infiltrating my America in exactly the same fashion as I remember the Soviets’ subversion and infiltration all during the Cold War.
I keep posting a related impression at every opportunity…..” – two enemy sneak air attacks on American soil….two polar opposite national ‘attitudes’ resulting”.
Our problem, and a major one in here inside America, is that there are too few of us still alive who remember Franklin Roosevelt’s era and who can compare the overt fury against all things Japanese in 1942 as opposed to our contemporary shrugging off of our Muslim enemy’s overt aggression and open declarations of war against all things American.
Our diffidence in this long-term war against Muslims is completely baffling to me.
Dear GOD, Yes.
Taqiyya is THE reason that peace can never be made with Islam, and why no Muslim can ever be trusted. It has nothing to do with racism or bigotry (no matter what the Left says) and EVERYTHING to do with freaking Taqiyya!
They can lie and break their own supposed rules as long as it’s in the service of Jihad. And they’re ALWAYS in the service of Jihad! Jihad is required by the Koran and (worse yet) the Hadiths!
And yet the Proggies are willfully blind to this because they desire SO badly to have Islamic Jihad as a tool to bludgeon everyone else with!
The man killed how many and wounded how many, and we are how long into the process of going to trial.
Does this bode well for Joker/Batman movie murdered?
And as I have mentioned in the past, we should think of getting rid of lawyers that want to twist the law, common sense, decency to try and defend the indefensible.
As I have also stated with the Holmes murderer, I will go on my own dime to place the needles. Same for the murdering terrorist, masquerading as US solider, and I don’t even care if we sterilize the needles before jamming them into their veins.
“Wolf said he was disappointed that FBI Director Robert Mueller, who asked Webster to investigate the agency, didn’t come testify; instead, Mark Giuliano, the FBI’s executive assistant director for national security, appeared before the panel.”
Apologists for Islam, cowards and betrayers: Mueller and Giuliano.
There may be some real men and women in the FBI that will step up to the plate and expose the corruption within. But hey … corruption starts at the top and in addition, we now have been presented with a mountain of evidence that our media is absolutely corrupt … there’s no other explanation for it.
Betrayal in the WH is very real … and this latest report is ample evidence of thge influence of Obama’s closest adviser regarding Islam who is an MB operative herself! Astonishing.
Q; If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?
A; Four. Calling a tail a leg doesnt make it a leg.
A house divided must be cleaned out.
This is just one microscopic example of our non functioning government. Ten years after an attack which killed thousands of citizens in our military headquarters, and most important economic center, out government defenders looked the other way, and permitted the murder of our unarmed soldiers by a killer. What do our leaders always do? Form a commission to study why people kill us. What does it always conclude? The single unifying characteristic of those who kill us, Islamic terrorism, can not be named in the report.
It is fundamental in war, that if you can not identify your enemy, you lose. He kills your people.
How does this occur? Is it due to the stupidity, or cowardliness of our federal employees? Do our FBI agents regularly drool, or walk into walls? Are they afraid of Muslims? No. They are correctly trained, as armed police, to obey their bosses. We have grossly incompetent bosses. In the FBI. At Walter Reed. Throughout Washington D.C. There are thousands of federal employees, bosses, who live in nice homes, who should be fired for failure to do their job. That is not a dire condition. The failure to fire them, to hold them to account, is the dire condition.
These terrorist are not “Radicals” They are doing exactly what they are commanded to do by the most evil ideology on the planet, ISLAM! Read, ‘THE COMING: A TRUE STORY OF HORROR’ @ Amazon.com to see what we are facing..UNBELIEVABLE!
The US is just temporizing until its get the war it wants.That war will be total and against Islam, viewed as a unity.
Government actions are just a long term provocation of the population. The goal is to get the people so riled that they will go into a total war with their whole hearts.
Further, the Left will be seen as the root cause of the pain and will be dealt with in detail. No riots or demonstrations rather Lefties will be left where found, with no one worried of their fate.
One has to wonder if our Government has signed up to promote Islam in America to maintaining the Oil Cartels hand on the valve. Islam is getting a free ride in America to do as they please. This report is evidence Political Correctness controls the investigation and what will be exposed to the public instead of the truth.
EMP attack launched from a cargo ship in the Gulf of Mexico will wake everyone up! MB has been successful in every country they have sought to dominate, some took longer than others, and some are in the early stages…ex. USA, Europe, Thailand, etc. Am I wrong give examples?
Shortly after Hasan killed his fellow soldiers, there were reports that, while he was stationed in Washington, he was on Obama’s re-election committee. If true, this might explain why he wasn’t investigated earlier. His fellow officers in Washington knew in their hearts that this guy was an Islamist extremist.
I am LarryHammad and MoeHammed’s brother. Together, we are the three Stooges. Rediculous superstion that allows marrying six year old girls is our favorite. Islam is for the socially stunted that NEED some bearded goofball to tell us how to behave. Evolution completely missed the Middle East and Africa.
It was absolutely an Islamic evil terrorist attack! The fact that our government refuses to admit that, for worry of offending the sensitivities of other Islamic people, well its utterly disgusting and completely dishonest and disingenuous to the victim’s families and the American public, and to the rest of the world!
It’s as if we are giving these spineless, Godless, evil terrorists a free pass on continuing their barbaric assault on all that is good in this world. I don’t use the word “hate lightly, but I absolutely HATE and detest political correctness. I’m not naive and so cold hearted that I can’t see at it’s most basic root, that political correctness has a very small good natured place in our society. But it has taken on such of life of being misused and knowingly abused, that it has nothing but a repulsive and negative connotation in my mind, now and probably forever. When you mention being “politically correct” around me, you might as well spit in my face, because it would have the exact same effect on my idea of it and my thoughts towards the person espousing this utter garbage to me.
And demon Islamic terrorists and their apologist and supporters are not naive in the slightest. Being a spineless evil coward, well one of the first things you would gladly recognize is how to abuse and manipulate the good hearted, well meaning people around, basically being a grade-A sociopath. And that is absolutely a core facet of all terrorists. They get giddy and chuckle to themselves when they see morons defending their evil actions, even apologizing for them, under the guise of political correctness and religious tolerance. Terrorists are religious God-fearing “people”, the same way that the cast of The Jersey Shore, are Emmy nomination material. Sympathizers and the uninformed often don’t give terrorists the credit for how clever they are, feeding off of the fears of our politically correct society, and this is the same the world over in many countries, especially places like the United Kingdom.
The day we stop trying to rationalize, understand, apologize, and make nice with demons (terrorists,), and instead we wipe them off the face of the earth, at the drop of a hat, is the day the world gets just a little bit cleaner and better place to inhabit. Hopefully we can get people like Romney into office, who apparently and we hope, understand and follow through with this. Lord knows Barack IsToBlame Obama, is more concerned about making sure the world over doesn’t cry and their rears are properly wiped by us, than caring about our safety, and long term success as a model country for freedom and prospering on this planet. I pray for the evil terrorists souls and all their victims and their loved ones.
Mohammad had 900 unarmed Jews decapitated at Quarazeh…and the FBI wwants to show respect to the “religion” that celebrates that sociopathic behavior….It is no different than showing respect for Rudolf Hoss and his “accomplishments” at Auschwitz!
Ft. Hood was a victory for Obama and Islam. Hassan may have pulled the trigger but Obama made it possible when he subjected the military to political correctness which gave an avowed Islamic terrorist carte blanche to not only slaughter with impunity but to have the act of terrorism at Ft. Hood, committed by an avowed terrorist who publicly pledged his allegiance to Islam and the Queran instead of the United States and the Constitution, officially judged as “violence in the work place” so that bloody Islam may live to kill again. Why is it that Obama does not use political correctness when he jumps the shark on every incident involving blacks and whites. Before he knows anything about anyone, he rushes to judgement against whites for committing crimes against blacks as in the cases of Trayvon Martin and Zimmerman and the very inebriated black professor Gates against a white police officer. We, the people, lost our political minds when we elected Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama (a disbarred lawyer who uses a dead man’s SSN) aka J. Bounel aka Harrison J. Bounel (who owe thousands of dollars of credit card debt) and are all listed under Obama’s address in Chicago. We, the people, lost our political minds when we elected a man without a country as President.