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Former Russian Foreign Minister on Ukraine: ‘If You’re Not Ready to Do Something, Don’t Say You Are’

Hagel urges NATO partners to “reinvigorate the unrivaled joint planning, exercises, and capabilities" that are the "lifeblood" of the alliance.

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May 4, 2014 - 11:45 pm
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WASHINGTON – Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said Friday that NATO should reassess its relationship with Russia in light of its recent actions and called for a renewed commitment to the alliance, while a former Russian foreign minister warned the West about leaning on “empty threats.”

Hagel, who called the crisis in Ukraine “a clarifying moment for the transatlantic alliance,” said Russia’s incursion into Ukraine “shatters the myth” that the end of the Cold War had brought permanent peace to Europe.

Hagel evoked the alliance’s origins after World War II as a bulwark against communist aggression in Europe.

“Russia’s recent action in Ukraine has reminded NATO of its founding purpose,” Hagel said at a forum on NATO expansion at the Wilson Center. “NATO members must demonstrate that they are as committed to this alliance as its founding members were who built it 65 years ago.”

He said NATO must balance a renewed emphasis on territorial defense with its unique “expeditionary capabilities” because threats to the alliance “neither start or stop at Europe’s doorstep.”

“While we must continue to build a more peaceful and prosperous global order, there is no postmodern refuge immune to the threat of military force,” Hagel said. “And we cannot take for granted – even in Europe – that peace is underwritten by the credible deterrent of military power.”

He urged NATO partners to “reinvigorate the unrivaled joint planning, exercises, and capabilities that are [the alliance’s] lifeblood.”

He noted that the European economy is overall larger than that of the U.S., but U.S. spending is three times the total among NATO partners.

“Going forward, the Department of Defense will not only seek, but increasingly rely on closer integration and collaboration with allies – and in ways that will influence U.S. strategic planning and future investments,” Hagel said.

He said that many of NATO’s smaller members have pledged to increase their defense investment, but without similar actions from the larger members, NATO’s “integrity, cohesion, and capability” could suffer.

“The alliance cannot afford for Europe’s larger economies and most militarily capable allies not to do the same, particularly as transatlantic economies grow stronger,” Hagel said. “We must see renewed financial commitments from all NATO members.”

Last week, Secretary of State John Kerry urged NATO allies not meeting the 2 percent benchmark to boost their payments to the alliance in the next five years.

Both the U.S. and Europe are facing tighter budgets and facing other fiscal challenges, making politicians reluctant to spend money on defense. Hagel said that NATO’s military leaders could play an important role in convincing policymakers about the consequences of reduced defense spending.

“Having participated in the NATO defense ministerial [summits] over the last year-and-a-half and having met with all of my NATO counterparts, I’ve come away recognizing that the challenge is building support…for defense investment across our governments, not just in our defense ministries,” he said.

Hagel called for the inclusion of finance ministers or senior budget officials at future NATO ministerial summits focused on defense investment.

“This would allow them to receive detailed briefings from alliance military leaders on the challenges we face,” he said.

While Ukraine is not a NATO partner, Russia’s recent actions have prompted the U.S. and NATO to move troops into Eastern Europe, including 600 troops moving into Poland and the Baltic states in late April for exercises.

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32 weeks ago
32 weeks ago Link To Comment
Found on the Web ...

"Negotiating with Obama is like playing chess with a pigeon….
the pigeon knocks over all the pieces, shits on the board and
then struts around like it won the game."

~Vladimir Putin
32 weeks ago
32 weeks ago Link To Comment
Well, you *can* use google, but you aren't very good at it, are you? Plus, you're cherry picking.

Let's jump to the chase. I share references and resources and you do the burden of proof fallacy thingy, then when I share additional info, you'll claim that it doesn't matter and go all sophist and ad hominem.

Somewhere along in there, I get to share a lot of info with people are more open minded while you look like a simpleton. (Left or right, people like you do all of that and think yer smart.)

So, Lima Bean, here's the end game...


http://theglobalobservatory.org/analysis/730-key-global-events-to-watch-in-may.html

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/05/chronology-of-the-ukrainian-coup/

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/02/12/caught-red-handed/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Nuland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Kagan

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherwin_B._Nuland

http://www.globalresearch.ca/ukraine-was-a-playbook-cia-coup-detat/5371296

http://rt.com/shows/documentary/156380-south-east-ukraine-crisis/

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/05/01/nato-official-says-russia-must-now-be-viewed-as-more-enemy-than-partner/

http://www.infowars.com/polls-americans-are-sick-of-the-war-on-terror-war-on-drugs-and-all-of-the-other-failed-u-s-wars/

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/05/01/van-rompuy-says-europe-will-expand-without-public-backing

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/05/ukraine-lies-propaganda-west-age-20145384527678726.html

http://openrevolt.info/2014/03/08/alexander-dugin-letter-to-the-american-people-on-ukraine/

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/373064/putin-adviser-publishes-plan-domination-europe-robert-zubrin

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-05-01/imf-warns-ukraine-fight-east-or-no-money

http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/04/15/is-putin-being-lured-into-a-trap/

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/ukraine/arc.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Ukraine

http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/us-backing-neo-nazis-Ukraine

http://www.leap2020.eu/GEAB-N-84-is-available-Europe-dragged-into-a-division-of-the-world-between-debtors-and-creditors-the-United-States_a16039.html

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-global-financial-tsunami-end-game-the-petro-dollar-regime-is-finished/5376779

http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_05_01/BRICS-creating-parallel-Monetary-Fund-disillusioned-with-IMF-and-World-Bank-expert-0502/

http://news.yahoo.com/cia-fbi-agents-advising-ukraine-government-report-101508429.html

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/05/05/siding-with-kiev-us-and-eu-support-nazism.html

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/world/russias-buildup-on-the-ukraine-border/996/

http://en.ria.ru/russia/20140430/189487388/Russian-Happiness-at-25-Year-High--Poll.html

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/20/tactical-advantage-russian-military-shows-off-impr/

http://www.debka.com/article/23874/Russian-and-Ukrainian-armies-shaping-up-for-initial-military-clash-over-Slavyansk

http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/23176-focus-ukraine-through-the-us-looking-glass

http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2001/07/the-russia-china-friendship-and-cooperation-treaty

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Sino-Russian_Treaty_of_Friendship

http://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2014/04/25/west-imposed-sanctions-boost-russia-china-cooperation.html

http://stratrisks.com/geostrat/19294
32 weeks ago
32 weeks ago Link To Comment
Ahem...
“a clarifying moment for the transatlantic alliance” *cough*...*cough*....
Well maybe, but not in the way these war-mongering poltroons mean.

IMO there's danger in descending into inside-baseball-like chatter. The fog of war and propaganda ruins all efforts. So stay with the big picture.

Today's Europeans are largely an unhealthy mix of waffle, cowardice and denial, driven to conformity by a propaganda-driven media that is overwhelmingly arrogant, ignorant and virulently anti-American. Does Hagel ever talk to anyone except flunkies and fellow travelers?

Danish 'airforce' over the Baltic...600 troops moved to Poland... a handful of British jets circling over the sea and Scandinavia... Heavens, what's next, mild sarcasm and Kerry expressing disappointment after another bad hair day? Solidarity in the spirit of May Day, brothers! Meanwhile Krauts and Frogs do what they do best, namely nothing except whine and line up to ink contracts with our 'adversaries'; EU 'leadership' in Brussels has gone to ground or the beach: and the Russians play a weak hand like champs because they know how to fill a vacuum. Gimmestrength!

What's in it for us? Nada.
But Hagel wants a military solution so here it is:
New tech and shifting centers of power mean we now have no useful need for Ramstein, Mildenhall, plug-ins with GCHQ, Fylingdales and a bunch of other boondoggles and boyfriends, fat-living NATO and EU REMFs above all. So pull the plug, fast, get out of Europe right now; shred NATO in a very Gallic fashion (Kerry's poses, chin and coiffure may finally have a use); and leave it all to Angela and odious Olli and to the (now curiously silent) brace of emasculated pinko stooges in Brussels, Mssrs. Barroso and Van Rumphole.

Then laugh your package loose as 'the European project' collapses under the weight of its own contradictions. We have better allies and greater interests elsewhere, so let euroweenies strut their stuff and show the world what they're made of.

IMO, we do have a moral obligation to protect and aid Jews in Ukraine, but that's about it. (And -- it is necessary to say so on this site -- I'm not Jewish). There may also be an obligation to a few Ukranians misled by the Obama regime. As for the rest, ain't none of our bidness. Eff 'em all, the long and the short and the tall....
We have plenty of work to do at home.
32 weeks ago
32 weeks ago Link To Comment
Could Hagel explain why he and the Obama/Biden regime along with NATO have installed a Nazi regime in the Ukraine? Are Americans going to die in order to fight for the Nazi government that they backed? Are Americans going to continue to believe the lies and distortions issuing from the Ministry of Truth?
32 weeks ago
32 weeks ago Link To Comment
Which NAZI government would that be?

Just because a handful of Neo NAZis show up at a protests does not eman all the protesters are all neo-NAZIs.

There are also neo-NAZIs in Russia too. so what is your point other than you are trying to influence public opinion one forum at a time and one lie at a time
32 weeks ago
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You're so ignorant about what's going on that you've just embarrassed yourself.

The neo-Nazi Svoboda Party and its political allies, including muslim militants, are now in charge. Of course, it's a bit more complex, seeing that a billionaire crime boss runs all of them.

The US government put them in charge. An unelected government that the Ukrainian citizens didn't want - and don't want - in power. An unelected government that Jews are now running away from - evacuating Ukraine, to avoid the purge that is coming.

You remember reading about Hitler? You like Muslims? That's who the US put in charge in Ukraine. A coalition of neo-NAZI's (Svodoba Party and its political allies. Lookit up) - which is run by a crime lord - and all of them, party, allies and crime boss, are associated with militant Muslims.

Our government deposed a legitimate government in a sovereign nation and replaced it with known criminals and terrorists - none of whom were elected or approved by the people of Ukraine. Whatever else they may be guilty of, whatever else you might honestly say of them, Russia and Putin did not do these things. You've accused an innocent man, an innocent people and an innocent government of guilt and of war crimes.

Pundits and mainstream wonks on both sides are defending our government's actions in Ukraine and demonizing Russia, who was innocent of creating any of the mess that now lies before us. Our government built that mess. Our government caused the chaos, death and destruction. Our government did it with malice aforethought. Our government committed premeditated war crimes. That's what our government did to Ukraine and that's what our government now blames on Russia.

You are blaming an innocent people, an innocent nation, and an innocent national leader, of the crimes which our government committed. Our government did it without consulting Congress and without consulting We, the People. That's called 'high crimes and misdemeanors.' It was a traitorous action against America that was and has been - and is still being - committed by the people in our own government.

That's what you are defending. By defending the actions of our government, you join in with those high crimes traitorous activities and openly admit your own guilt in conspiring to commit those crimes against the people of America, against the people of Ukraine and against the people of Russia. In so doing, you've shat on the Constitution, as well.

32 weeks ago
32 weeks ago Link To Comment
You're full of it.

Russia is run by fascists, mobs of Putin's brownshirts beat his political opposition in the street!

The Ukrainians got rid of their Putin, and they did so because he was illegitimate. You don't get to 80% disapproval and legitimately keep power.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/ukraines-ousted-leaders-absurd-treasures-display-n95641

Yanukovych had no legitimacy.
32 weeks ago
32 weeks ago Link To Comment
Wasn't Yanokovych elected to his position according to the Ukrainian constitution? Wasn't there an election scheduled in 2015? If the ethnic Ukrainian-Ukrainians could say mob action is legitimate to change the constitutionally elected government, then couldn't the ethnic Russian-Ukrainians say that their actions are legitimate as well (occupying government buildings, conducting extra-constitutional plebiscites of their own)??
32 weeks ago
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Svoboda also pushed neo-Nazi and other radical groups out the party, distancing itself from its neofascist past while retaining the of support extreme nationalists -wiki
32 weeks ago
32 weeks ago Link To Comment
Three members of the Svoboda party hold positions in Ukraine's government.

Your point is? the must be way more than 3 positions in the Ukrainian government. Livni is part of the official Israeli government and she is a 2-faced snake. Since Livni is part of the Israeli government, does it mean that it is socialist?


Back to you DUDE!
32 weeks ago
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He'll just repeat propaganda that was stale when Stalin had it written.
32 weeks ago
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