Let’s Focus on a Positive Vision for Ground Zero
It would not be sufficient to expose such evil, but to explore the attributes of the human condition that nurture hatred, as well as those characteristics that could insulate humanity from it. Focusing on how to motivate people to embrace freedom rather than to submit to hatred, even in dark times, is the ultimate quest for human dignity.
A wealth of long-dormant social-psychological material, which grew out of our experience with the dual totalitarian evils of Communism and Nazism, engaged these questions. Fanatical Islam, like most fanatical movements, is simply another variation of the totalitarian mindset. The academic work on authoritarianism that emerged from the experience with Nazism is most relevant to our understanding of the conditions that enable hatred to flourish. R.E. Money-Kyrle’s psychological studies of the Nazis and the massive work on socialization and child-rearing patterns leading to authoritarianism and fascism, directed by T. W. Adorno, immediately come to mind.
Every day the violence that grows out of Islamist fanatics reminds us of these totalitarian ideologies. It is time to reopen the research that scholars did after World War II into totalitarianism and apply that learning to an understanding of the most recent incarnation of that mindset — fundamentalist Islam.
To this end, the creation of a plaza and learning center, as envisioned by the Wallenberg Foundation’s Peter Lancz, is a most appropriate undertaking for New York, America, and all people concerned with stopping the spread of hatred. The murder of innocents in the name of a venomous ideology is a crime whose significance transcends the victims. It speaks a universal language, for it beckons us to consider the tragic deaths of all those murdered in the name of ideology or religion. In the spirit of the idea that he who murders a single person kills all of humanity, Ground Zero belongs to all people of conscience who stand in opposition to evil. It is our moral obligation to those who have fallen that this symbol is neither appropriated nor entrusted to those who would blight the memory of the victims.
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FanaticalIslam, like most fanatical movements, is simply another variation of the totalitarian mindset.”Fixed that for you.
Agreed!
When will those who want to ignore the threat Islam poses understand that when there is a debate between moderate Muslims and Islamists, the Islamists always win?
Mr. Lancz sounds very firm and savvy in his rejection of the faux-victims and race-baiters who are the real bigots. HOWEVER, I’m not sure how the “seminars and research projects” you propose, Mr. Miller, could be kept from the perverting hands of the very Bloombergs, Obamas, and other elites who are hijacking the 9/11 tragedy as we speak. “Something that would continually serve as a forum for confronting all the world’s ideologies that find their inspiration in hatred” would soon be the site of anti-Jewish demonstrations and all manner of America-hating performances.
Forgive me, but I don’t want seminars and research projects at Ground Zero. Let the evil of the Islamists speak for itself in the emptiness and silence of a Ground Zero memorial. And I don’t want to forget the mosque. I want it destroyed on the drawing board.
I agree. Admirable as it might be to try to symbolically wrench the rhetoric of human rights away from prejudiced multiculturalists, I don’t believe you actually can or should, in this particular case and place, try to “tear down their house with their tools.”
You would just end up feeding their rhetoric, and their activists, too. You can’t challenge the pervasiveness of voices claiming that ‘ignorant Americans’ need (re)educating by providing another forum for such practices, well-intentioned as it might be.
So, leave the site alone. Fight the ideas in the universities, and use legislation to tackle the inequities, biases, and forced re-education in the classrooms, workplaces, and government halls where educations, tax dollars, and employment opportunities are being impacted right now.
fight the ideas in the universities?
there is only one stream of thought in universities and it is in support of the mosque
If not at the drawing board then at the first nail being driven and or the first bolt being fastened and every nail and bolt thereafter
Don’t worry about trying to build ANYTHING at or near ground zero. It has been almost 10 years, 10 YEARS, since 9/11 and the “Freedom Tower,” that pathetic excuse for a replacement of the World Trade Center, is nowhere near completion. None of the memorials that were supposed to be part of the Freedom Tower are completed, either. At this rate, it will probably be another three or four years before everything gets done. Pretty sad that we’re also talking about a city that was able to build the Empire State building in ONE YEAR back in the 1930s. You can make all the plans in the world for projects at Ground Zero. At this rate, you will not see any of them until my grandkids are in college.
Actually, there has finally been some progress down here. It’s been pitiful slow, and there have been some serious problems and corruption with the whole rebuilding. However, after we’ve replaced two stadiums with taxpayer money, seen umpteen high rises go up – yeah, they’ll probably finish before the Second Avenue subway is completed.
Half of the issues with building are political, i.e. getting a people to agree on anything on an emotionally charged site. Then you have outright corruption and mismanagement like the John Galt Corporation that was responsible for the deaths of several firefighters at the Deutschebank building or the MTA and Path projects that simply can’t stay on budget.
Then you’ve got the simple economic question of whether rebuilding will create another “Empty State Building” since commercial real estate in New York is still in the dumps. Shouldn’t the market decide these things?
At any rate, looking out my window they are finally building. I think they’ll make a push to complete some of this before the ten year anniversary of the attacks.
Forget the mosque. I suspect most people already have.
When is the last time it has featured in the news since the elections?
Good idea. If it happens, would it be a tipping point?
Anything in which Muslims are involved will not have any “positive vision for ground zero”. First get them out of Ground Zero and then talk about anything else!!!
First, rebuild St Nicholas Orthodox Church; if Moslems actually believed in tolerance, they would have done so already.
I agree. Why hasn’t St. Nicholas Orthodox Church been re-built? To give money to that monstrosity of a mosque is SO WRONG! I despise injustice.
Last I recall they turned down over $60 million in funding and a land swap for a nearby site.
In response, the Port Authority just dropped negotiations.
You may want to forget the Mosque but tomorrow is Pearl Harbor day and I defy the Fanatical Muslims to try to destroy Americas memories of any attack on our sacred land. Remember ( those that are old enough) the lives of those killed and those that were left behind and the devastation of that attack and we will all defeat the filth of Muslim leaders that are attempting to make Ground Zero their Haunting grounds
Mr. Miller:
Kindly shove your humanist solution where the sun doesn’t shine. Americans neither need nor desire more New Age touchy-feely kissy-butt horse manure. We are at war and YOU want to kiss the enemy’s ass. Ain’t happenin’ dude.
If Adorno of the Frankfurt School stables comes immediately to Mr Miller´s mind, he must be off his rocker. Horse manure? Too nice.
Interesting idea. I am unsure why this proposal is being met with such hostility in the comments. One concern about the proposal is whether the definition of hateful regimes may be twisted eventually to include the US. Maybe the memorial should affirm freedom and democracy (positive) instead of being anti-authoritarian (negative).
steve, “may be twisted eventually”? It will be twisted on launch! For god’s sake, what is wrong with a MEMORIAL for 2500 innocent souls cut down by an act of pure evil? A place that memorializes THEM and only them, not every victim of every evil that ever walked? Why dilute the memory and the fact of that horrid day?
And why not convey the fact that those innocents are gone, the space they occupied is empty, their voices will never be heard? Sometimes it’s good to have a place where the noise is turned down. There are plenty of centers and universities where those discussions can go on. And on, and on, and on.
Let’s not make this memorial just for the victims of 9/11. The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were started in response to 9/11. I think the memorial should honor the sacrifice of our soldiers too. They fought to defend this nation from future attacks. They fought to preserve freedom and democracy.
Steve,
The author of this article is well meaning but off base. You’re idea about honoring the troops who served in Iraq and Afghanistan is a good one. But Islam needs to be shouted down from the rooftops. Islamists need to be humiliated on a world wide stage. Until this happens their recruiting efforts will continue to bear rotten fruit.
That’s a wonderful idea but it won’t ease the pain of the sharp stick in the eye the GZM is and will be if it’s built. I was at the WTC on 9/11, saw people burned and cut, saw people jump to their deaths, and got covered in debris when the towers fell which has affected my health. I lost friends on that day and have lost more to 9/11 toxic exposures. I know many victims’ family members and first responders for whom the GZM is an offense as great as the original attack. It won’t be forgotten and it won’t be built. Shame on NBC, Bloomberg, Community Board One, and other PC elites who are clueless as to what’s really going on with the GZM.
Why should one assume that research, scholarship and seminars at the proposed site in NY will be permitted to delve into Islam’s totalitarian nature? Just consider the US Holocaust Museum in Washington (situated, by the way, on Wallenberg Drive). They too hold conferences and seminars, do research and the like, but they studiously avoid any mention of Arab complicity in the Holocaust, “Palestinian” leader Amin al Husseini’s active support for the Nazis, or ongoing anti-Semitism within today’s Arab and Muslim worlds.
Raymond,
Because the very purpose of the Raoul Wallenberg Freedom Plaza is to counter Islam’s totalitarian nature. The genuine freedom fighters confronting Islamic supremacism, like Geert Wilders, SIOA, FDI and al. will , denounce Islamic Jihad both violent and stealth in no uncertain terms. Ironically, you bring up the Mufti and his collusion with tne Nazis..Let me remind you that Wallenberg by dueling with his main nemesis Eichman(who had ties to the Mufti) in Budapest 1944, was by extension also fighting the Islamists and the legacy of Islamic anti-semitism.Fast forward to today and we can see his timeliness and relevance. So maybe the US Holocaust Museum does choose to take the multi-culti, appeasing, PC route. As pertains to the rationale for my Wallenberg Campaign ,I however have no such qualms or delusions in calling a spade a spade and speaking truth to power via this giant of Hero and Role Model..
You’re right. We cannot trust that a center, such as the one Mr. Miller proposes, would not be perverted/subverted by the PC Lefty crowd. Keep it a simple memorial to those innocents who died there…. and to those who are willing to stand against the monstrous evil that killed them.
Wouldn’t the most positive vision be acceptable of American Muslims who had nothing to do with 9/11 in NYC, the city that acceptable all of our unwanted ancestors? A fact that we all seem to have it easy taking for granted.
Jihad, and the conquest of all nations and peoples, subjugated under extremely cruel Islamic sharia law, where defenseless non-Muslims have no human rights is commanded in the Koran. The 9/11 attack was an act of war against America and the Free World carried out by Muslims who were obeying the many commands in the Koran to wage jihad. Jihadists seeking their promised Islamic reward of 72 virgins in Islamic heaven.
From 56 nations already conquered by Islam, millions of Islam’s foot soldiers colonize Western countries. In centuries past, Europeans fought desperate battles against the hordes of cruel Muslim invaders. The new massive Muslim immigration invasion is welcomed. Ensuring terrible future suffering of despised and hated infidels.
Why should there be a politically correct center about other totalitarian ideologies? That would drastically minimize the suffering and deaths of our beloved 3,000 innocents murdered in the name of Islam and Islam’s god. Our 3,000 were NOT murdered by any other ideology except that taught in the Koran.
Let us hold dear, and cherish our 3,000 and the many defenseless millions of non-Muslims who suffered unspeakable atrocities and were murdered by Islam.
http://www.politicalislam.com/tears/pages/tears-of-jihad/
Tears of Jihad.
These figures are a rough estimate of the death of non-Muslims by the political act of jihad.
For 25 million slaves delivered to the market, we have an estimated death of about 120 million people. Islam ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa.
120 million Africans
60 million Christians
The country of India today is only half the size of ancient India, due to jihad. The mountains near India are called the Hindu Kush, meaning the “funeral pyre of the Hindus.”
80 million Hindus
In jihad only Christians and Jews were allowed to survive as dhimmis (servants to Islam); everyone else had to convert or die. Jihad killed the Buddhists in Turkey, Afghanistan, along the Silk Route, and in India.
10 million Buddhists
This gives a rough estimate of 270 million killed by jihad.
http://www.politicalislam.com/tears/pages/tears-of-jihad/
Bible: Genesis 4:10 And God said, “What have you done? The voice of your brother’s blood cries out to Me from the ground.”
I don’t think your idea would ever fly since it doesn’t practice multiculturalism and PC. As a matter of fact, I think it would be seen as a threat and immediately attacked. They don’t want the truth out.
Islam Tax Dollars for Muslims
by Connie Hair / 09/02/2010
The Obama Administration reportedly held a special workshop this week to help leaders of controversial Muslim groups acquire “direct access” to taxpayer funding for their activities.
The event’s main organizer, the Coordinating Council of Muslim Organizations (CCMO) has long-established ties to Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood, which fostered many Islamist terror groups. Some of CCMO’s member groups were unindicted co-conspirators in the successfully prosecuted terrorist funding trial against the Holy Land Foundation (HLF). Event organizers said they would dedicate themselves to “cutting through red tape” to provide “direct access” to U.S. taxpayer funding for these terrorist funding-related groups.
An email announcement was sent out August 27 by the Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), a group long associated with Muslim Brotherhood and an unindicted co-conspirator in the HLF trial. The ISNA email said: “The Workshop: So what exactly is this workshop, you may ask. Leaders from Muslim organizations around the nation, particularly social service organizations, are invited to a workshop with representatives from the DOA, Faith Based and Neighborhood Partnerships, Health and Human Services, the White House, Department of Education, the Department of Homeland Security, and more. Twenty-five to thirty Muslim leaders representing 20 Muslim organizations are expected to attend the workshop. “According to a representative of CCMO, this workshop is designed to clarify how Muslim nonprofits, mosques, Islamic centers, and social service organizations can strengthen their communities through more direct access to opportunities provided to social service agencies at the federal level. ‘It will hopefully help cut through some of the red tape and shine light on the many opportunities for funding, government assistance, and resources that we just don’t know about at the local level,’ said Elsanousi.”
The Obama Administration has not disclosed which CCMO groups attended the “direct access” to taxpayer funding workshop. The Department of Agriculture (DOA) referenced in the email as a sponsoring group did not respond to requests for information on the event.
Christine Brim on the website Big Peace has provided in-depth research into the CCMO and member groups. As Brim notes in her piece, the CCMO website has been scrubbed of a great deal of information on its Muslim Brotherhood ties, yet the Wayback Machine offers prior versions of the group’s website (2004-2008) that include more information on the groups ties to Muslim Brotherhood.
One such member list found on the CCMO’s 2007 website reads like a who’s who of Muslim Brotherhood organizations.
Brim compiles background information on several unindicted co-conspirator groups (information from the Investigative Project on Terrorism) listed among the CCMO member organizations and terror-funding linked organizations advertising on the CCMO website:
• The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA), an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation terrorism finance trial, and the source of Friday’s email promoting this CCMO/Department of Agriculture Event.
• The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) , shunned by the FBI, several of its leaders indicted or convicted for terrorism, a possible violator of the Foreign Agents Registration Act, sued for fraud by Muslim, Hispanic and African-American families, named as an unindicted co-conspirator (CAIR fundraiser advertised at the CCMO site) in HLF trial.
• The International Institute of Islamic Thought (IIIT), the “think tank” of the Muslim Brotherhood according to The Grand Jihad author and former prosecutor Andrew McCarthy. One of the current and longest-serving officers of CCMO is Imam Johari Abdul-Malik, founder of the educational arm of IIIT, the Fairfax Institute and the director of outreach for the Dar-ul Hijrah “Terror” Mosque.
• The Muslim Public Affairs Committee (MPAC), exposed in IPT report for their defense of terrorists and terrorist financers. MPAC advertised here at the CCMO site for an event co-sponsored by Islamic Free Market Institute, the latter described in Paul Sperry’s book Infiltration)
• The Dar al Hijrah Mosque (known as the “Terror Mosque” in Northern Virginia for its links to imprisoned, indicted or wanted terrorists as vividly described by Frank Gaffney), advertised here at the CCMO site.
• The Muslim American Society “Freedom Foundation” (MASFF) run by three-time felon Mahdi Bray (MASFF fundraiser advertised at the CCMO site). The Muslim American Society was originally founded as the U.S. branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. MAS leader Mahdi Bray was elected on September 7, 2003 to the Executive Committee by over 40 CCMO member organizations.
The justice presiding over the HLF trial, U.S. District Judge Jorge A. Solis, was so concerned about the significance of the ongoing threat to America and that so many unindicted co-conspirators remained to be prosecuted, he ordered the documents submitted as evidence be put on the uscourts.gov web site.
For a broad offering of documents submitted in this trial, see the court documentation on the NEFA Foundation website.
When a party is designated as an unindicted co-conspirator in a trial it essentially means that the government could have indicted and prosecuted that party with the same evidence they are using to prosecute the conspirators actually indicted.
The sheer volume of Muslim groups listed as part of the terrorist funding schemes deterred simultaneous prosecutions so they were compiled in an unindicted co-conspirator list.
Two of the groups, ISNA and the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT), unsuccessfully petitioned to have their names removed from the HLF unindicted co-conspirator list. The prosecution blocked the groups’ removal through a filing in federal court in Dallas stating: “During last year’s trial, numerous exhibits were entered into evidence establishing both ISNA’s and NAIT’s intimate relationship with the Muslim Brotherhood, the Palestine Committee, and the defendants in this case,” the prosecutors wrote. “They were intimately connected with the HLF and its assigned task of providing financial support to HAMAS…. That ISNA and NAIT appeared in these documents and share a common history with these defendants is a reflection of the evidence, not any attempt to ‘disparage’ or ‘vilify.’”
Politico’s Josh Gerstein this week reported ISNA and NAIT are again attempting to have their names removed from the HLF list. In a highly controversial move, the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals has sealed all of the filings and moved the proceedings behind closed doors.
Gee, just when the lame-stream media convinced you that Barry Hussein is a Christian?
America is bankrupt. And what is deeply distressing is the amount of tax dollars that go to top favorites – Muslims. Whilst jobless, homeless, desperate Americans live in tent cities which have sprung up all over America. Homeless shelters are filled to capacity.
Massive amounts of American dollars are given to other countries and organizations, especially oil-wealthy Middle Eastern countries, Hamas-controlled Gaza and the Palestinian Authority who fill their war chests, build mansions and laugh all the way to the bank with free infidel American money.
The very least the government should do, is to grow non-gmo, organic, nut trees, fruit trees, berries and vegetables in the nations parks to help the hungry and the many millions of Americans who are struggling to survive. Tragically, and immorally the government much prefers to spend America’s tax dollars on Muslim Brotherhood connected groups whose goal is Islamic conquest of America and despised American infidels subjugated under Islamic sharia law. We are losing our freedom.
Islam Muslims Resume Building on Christian Graveyard in Pakistan
Muslims Resume Building on Christian Graveyard in Pakistan
By Compass Direct News|Walter Smith
SARGODHA, Pakistan (Compass Direct News) – Muslims led by a hard-line cleric on Friday resumed building on a Christian cemetery in Mandi Bhawaldin, desecrating more graves in spite of a local government order to halt construction, according to the All Pakistan Minorities Alliance (APMA).
Radical Muslim cleric Mirza Abdul Ghani had built a mosque on the Christian graveyard off New Rasool Road in Mandi Bhawaldin after allegedly occupying the land 16 years ago, when area Christians were too intimidated to object, said Salamat Zia of APMA.
“No one could object to the construction of the mosque, as it is in the constitution of Pakistan that no religious worship place could be demolished,” said Zia. “Therefore all the Christians remained silent then.”
The cleric’s alleged desecration of more of the graveyard land around the Masjid Ahle-Sunnat-Wal-Jamaat mosque began three months ago, Zia said.
“This Christian graveyard was earmarked before the Indo-Pakistan partition on Aug. 14, 1947,” Zia added, “and their forefathers were buried there.”
Zia, a local journalist and resident of the Muhalla Ghorra area in Mandi Bhawaldin, said it initially appeared that Ghani’s workers were building an addition to the mosque, as only pillars had been erected. Now Ghani’s builders have completed a basement as well as possibly some shops, with cement plaster now being applied to the new units.
On Aug. 6 Zia led a seven-member Christian delegation intending to meet with District Coordination Officer (DCO) Muhammad Amin Chaudhary, another district officer named Syed Shahbaz Hussain Naqvi and District Police Officer Dar Ali Khatak of Mandi Bhawaldin about the encroachments on the Christian graveyard and to discuss how the graves of their loved ones were being demolished and desecrated.
As DCO Chaudhary was on leave, Acting DCO Shahid Rana took their application and forwarded it to the District Officer of Revenue and Tehsil Officer of Regulations with directives to visit the site and demolish all encroachments except the Masjid Ahle-Sunnat-Wal-Jamaat mosque, Zia said.
After inspecting the site, the administrative officers issued directives to stop the illegal encroachments, and for a few days the construction was halted, he said.
“But despite the stay orders of stopping construction, the Muslim men restarted construction over the Christian graves on August 27,” Zia said.
Khalid Gill, chief organizer of APMA in Punjab Province, said that Muslim leaders threatened Christians who objected to the construction.
“They threatened that in case Christians protested against the resumption of construction they would also carry out a protest rally against Christians, and Muslim clerics said Christians would be responsible for the consequences,” Gill said.
APMA has demanded that the government allocate land for a Christian graveyard equivalent to the area allegedly occupied by the Muslims.
Local Urdu-language dailies in Mandi Bhawaldin have publicized the alleged encroachment on the Christian graveyard.
A Patriotic Muslim’s Warning on Ground Zero Mosque
by Aaron Elias – August 18, 2010
The mosque that the Cordoba Initiative is planning to build near Ground Zero has generated a substantial amount of attention across the country. Exemplifying the ire of many Americans, a recent poll showed that 53% of New Yorkers were opposed to the mosque. And while that majority may not include as many Muslims as we’d like, more and more are speaking up in opposition to the mosque. These Muslims offer many Americans a vital interpretation of the Islamic religion as a whole and show that Islam is not in fact a monolithic faith.
Dr. Zuhdi Jasser, M.D., president and founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy (AIFD), is one of these devout yet patriotic Muslims. A former U.S. Navy lieutenant commander with 11 years of service as a medical officer under his belt, Dr. Jasser has made it clear that “until anti-Islamist Muslims wage the intellectual battle against Islamism within the Muslim consciousness, we will make no headway against ‘the narrative.’”
Jasser founded AIFD in the wake of the 9/11 attacks in order to provide a Muslim American voice that would genuinely advocate and defend the founding principles of the U.S. Constitution. He has taken the fight against radical Islam to heart and sees it as a responsibility of all “true” Muslims. Where many U.S.-based Islamic organizations, such as CAIR and the Islamic Society of North America, claim to support the U.S. Constitution but provide dodgy answers and shoddy excuses for terrorism when the rubber meets the road, Dr. Jasser’s AIFD is based on the founding principles of the United States. Where CAIR’s rhetoric tends to create a tension between Americans and its Muslim members, the rhetoric of Jasser and AIFD refers to Americans as an “us” and not a “them.”
“I have always looked upon myself, long before 9-11, as a Jeffersonian Muslim, if you will,” Dr. Jasser answers when asked about his identification as a Muslim. “Along with the ideas of liberty as embodied in the works of our founding fathers, naturally emanating from that is a deep antipathy for Islamism (political Islam), salafism, jihadism, governmental sharia, and the global collectivist movement of the Muslim Brotherhood.”
Terms such as “moderate,” “secular,” and “radical” are innately controversial as any group is able to contort them to mean what they want. For example, Jasser posits, the term “moderate” has become synonymous with being non-violent or anti-terrorism. But this is an oversimplification that blinds Americans to the very political ideologies — which he identifies as “Islamism” — that are the cogs and gears of terrorism.
“I know everyone is looking for an easy label to know the ‘good Muslim’ from the ‘bad Muslim,’” Jasser continues, “but … I believe that the ‘anti-Islamist’ or at least ‘non-Islamist’ Muslims are on our side and the pro-Islamist Muslims, those who believe in the Islamic state and governmental sharia, are not on our side but on the side of political Islam.”
AIFD’s slogan is that its members are “Americans who happen to be Muslim, and not Muslims who demand to be American.” As a devout Muslim, Dr. Jasser has voiced strong opposition to the mosque now called “Park 51” that threatens to encroach on Ground Zero. When he first heard of the plans, he says, he wrote an op-ed for the New York Post detailing why he as a Muslim felt a mosque in such a location would only offer more misguidance for the U.S. Muslim community.
“The reality is that many of us have never said their rights should be infringed in any way but rather that we pray that a light will finally go on in their heads which tells them that ‘this ostentatious $100 million Islamic center should be built elsewhere and not in a place that casts a shadow upon the graves of thousands of Americans’ — still an open raw wound for most Americans,” Dr. Jasser explains.
Jasser also expresses deep concern that the organization funding the mosque, led by Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, has refused to exclude foreign funding from filling its coffers. Such financial transactions immediately offer the opportunity for foreign Islamists and their sympathizers to preach their version of political Islam and sharia, he warns, and present a very significant threat to national security.
“I cannot see genuine Muslim reform happening on the dime of foreign Islamist interests,” Jasser says. “Make no mistake, this Islamic center is not a spiritual statement but a global political one in the name of Islam. … Every group I have been directly involved with in building mosques and Islamic projects in the U.S. have rejected foreign funds entirely because of the ideological hypocrisies and Islamism that comes with them.”
Dr. Jasser’s only contact with Imam Rauf has been indirectly. Rauf penned a Huffington Post article admonishing anyone who thought sharia was incompatible with the Declaration of Independence, and Jasser responded with a commentary at HuffPo telling him that Muslims need to be “getting real with Shar’iah.” Rauf’s opinion that America must embrace sharia rather than fear it belies the true reality of sharia as implemented by Muslim majorities, Jasser explains, and demonstrates an intense denial or deception on his part of the innumerable female, non-Muslim, “liberty-minded Muslim,” and minority victims of sharia law.
Dr. Jasser has also taken serious issue with the background story that the mosque’s developers have chosen to promote.
Your words have shed a lot of light on what I think of the Mosque near ground zero. I don’t think the first step to solving our problems with Muslims who commit harmful acts is disallow those who had to nothing to do with it to be free. If we kill in the name of Christianity its always ok isn’t it?
Your comment is sick and depraved. G-D commanded:
YOU SHALL NOT MURDER
G-D’s Biblical requirement for ALL humanity is KINDNESS:
Old Testament, Jewish Scriptures, Bible, Micah 6:8 And what does the L-RD require of you but to do justice, to love kindness and to walk humbly with your G-D.
Jesus said in Bible, Matthew 7:12 Treat people the same way you want them to treat you for this is the Law and the Prophets.
Muslims will NEVER intergrate with the western society. That have NO COMMON GROUND in which to build a community that combines both worlds. It is impossible. I live in Australia,and everywhere Muslims have immigrated,they have set up little havens that don’t abide by the general laws of the country. They want their own schools,health centres,places of worship (not for men and women in the same place). When thet go out,only the men congregate at coffee shops whilst ALL the women have to go straight home.
This is ridiculous, it seems that all they want is to change the world to their way of life. DON”T BE FOOLED,THEY ARE DANGEROUS.
They are the ones that SMILE whilst they cut your throat.(literally).
“Muslims will NEVER intergrate with the western society.”
We’re not trying hard enough.
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2010/12/06/128635.html
Danish playground aims at building religious tolerance
Yesterday Norwegian newspapers run a story about a ‘Norwegian’ man (read Somali) being acquitted of charges in terror trial for sending 200,000 krone to al-Shabaab. He only had to pay 10,000 krone fine for violating international arms treaty or something.
Today Norwegians confessed that they’re unable to monitor bomb-building terrorists for over two weeks due to shortage of cops. In addition, they refused a British offer of 12 counter-terrorism agents in their country.
I agree, multiculturalism won’t work, because the West lacks the c.o.jones to battle the threat of Islam.
Should the American Muslims and their foreign backers desire to erect the mosque at GZ, it will be there – no doubt about it.
Is western society the only acceptable society?
To Catlady: No– you are allowed to go live in any form of society you want, just don’t expect me to accept living in a third-world society. By the way, are you one of those creepy people who lives with hundreds of cats crawling all over your house?
No. But a Middle Eastern, Islamic, Sharia Compliant society is, most certainly, an unacceptable one.
@21 catlady
Define ‘western’ and ‘acceptable’.
Are you wearing a burka?
My response is simple – I don’t care what you build at Ground Zero but it can NOT include anything with the Muslims in. This is not vindictive – this is simply paying them back with the same love and kindness they showed to us on 9/11 AND when they tried to build the mosque at Ground Zero – which is none at all.
Again, no matter what you build at Ground Zero, including the killers in that monument is wrong and should not be allowed under any circumstances in any way, shape or form.