‘Flash’ Mob Violence, Poverty, and Reclaiming the Streets
Streeterville is a quiet, upscale part of Chicago that encompasses the Magnificent Mile and is just south of the Gold Coast. Northwestern University’s Law School is in Streeterville, as is its hospital. Oprah has an apartment in Streeterville. A close friend of mine once lived in Steeterville, and I spent many a late night walking off jet lag on its streets. After all, if you’re not safe in Streeterville, where are you safe?
As a physician at Northwestern Memorial Hospital learned the other night, you’re really not safe in Streeterville. Accosted by a “flash” mob of black teenagers, the physician was repeatedly hit and beaten. He wasn’t robbed. He says the motive wasn’t racial, as he’s Asian. But typically such mobs are black and their victims are whites, who are abused with racist insults while they’re being injured.
The physician observed that the teenagers had accosted others before they attacked him. The teenagers were simply looking to have fun by hurting someone, and the next someone was him. And, of course, this is not the first instance of such mob behavior flowing out of the deteriorating inner city into the city’s wealthier areas. It isn’t even the first foray into upscale Streeterville. The criminals now have done what any species does when it exhausts the resources of its immediate environment. They have moved on to another habitat.
Don’t expect Reverend Jesse Jackson or the Reverend Al Sharpton to be organizing a march against this brand of racism. After all, black-on-white violence isn’t really good for the kind of media exploitation that fills their coffers. Barack Obama will not find that any of the victims could have been his son, and Eric Holder is too busy looking into the racial motives of George Zimmerman to launch an investigation into black mob violence against whites.
Sure, Chicago, like most major American cities, has its crime-polluted neighborhoods where going out on the street at night is about as safe as going out in Baghdad. We all know how to avoid those, unless our economic circumstances regrettably compel us to live in such neighborhoods. Last week, 53 people were shot in Chicago. Most of us will dismiss this as an irrelevant statistic. After all, we know without reading the papers where those people live: in the south and west sides. There, the population is largely black or Latino, gangs fight turf wars over the drug trade, and getting a gun is not only a rite of passage but also is more common than getting a high school diploma.
We don’t ask if our laws and social system have gone astray in tolerating such violence. After all, we delude ourselves into believing that people like us are immune to being violated in our own safe neighborhoods. Basically, we know where to go or not go in our cities and don’t question if it’s acceptable for some of our fellow citizens to live under persistently threatening conditions.
We assume that because people who look like the victims are also the perpetrators, it’s not our problem. Our continually reinforced ethnic tribalism really comes down to: we don’t give a damn about black-on-black violence or what happens in the deteriorating parts of our city. We can be smug about gun control because none of our neighbors are shooting each other. We can be self-righteous about microscopic adherence to due process because none of us will have to testify in open court against people who belong to vengeful criminal organizations.
Here’s another thing we “need” to do: get Al Sharpton off the airwaves. Every time a white or Asian or any other ethnic group is a target of black crime, he and the other pimps in the race industry should be called on it. Nothing elaborate. Just a simple question: do you think you are responsible for the continued assaults and beatings of other race victims? Over and over again, they should be asked the question and held responsible. They have been toxic for this country. Their words and messages are fuel for the tinder of the black criminal underclass. They should be accused of inciting hatred and race warfare and made into pariahs. The rest of us should arm ourselves and take the advice of John Derbyshire. Who is turning out to be dead on more and more every day. If you are white and see groups of young black people, get the hell out. And don’t go anywhere they are known to congregate.
I agree: Sharpton is out front and every one like him on the black Left is radicalizing a new generation of kids, and white liberals are buying into the New Jim Crow, which seeks to explain away black crime by laying it at the feet or white racism. If men like Sharpton are saying the things he says in public, one can only wonder what myths are being taught in the home.
Trayvon Martin proved black culture doesn’t see itself as the problem, but whites, and that is the belief of the entirety of the liberal Left.
Poverty doesn’t cause crime, culture does. I’ve been in communities all over the world equally poor and seen vast differences in this regard. In some instances I’ve seen a culture go from peaceful to crime ridden, as in the case of Guatemala, in a couple of decades, not due to poverty, but to an influence of American gang culture and the end of a dictatorship that might take out criminals and shoot them.
Most poor places that have tourists from the West in their midst might do sneak theivery but generally there is little violence. But in Belize City, in 1977, every backpacker on the bus we arrived in but me and my buddy was assaulted. Violent crime is endemic in Rio de Janeiro.
In poverty stricken areas of Egypt and India, you don’t have to worry about violence, or Nepal, generally – there are always exceptions. I know a guy who left a 600 dollar iPhone in a cab in Cairo and the driver called and brought it back. I once had people quickly point out 50 pounds I dropped in Cairo in the street, 1/10 a monthly salary.
During the crowded revolution in Tahrir Square, pickpocketing was unknown. In Rio, I knew backpackers who’d buy wallets for 50 cents and put it in their back pocket and go out in the Carnival crowds – the empty wallets were always taken. Poverty doesn’t cause crime.
You’re absolutely right. It isn’t about poverty, or “race,” or ethnicity. It’s about culture.
BS. How can you separate the two? Black culture and the black race (here in America) is racist and thuggist. Listen to the noise they call music. Look at the videos and heroes of the black culture. Look at who are the talking heads of black culture: Cornell West to Spike to the JJbros and the idiot Sharpton and least we forget good ole white America hating JW.
If any of you EVER lived around them you would know that black culture is violent. Whatever goodness black culture had 50 years ago has evaporated. Because of my circumstances as a child and unfortunately now as an adult I have lived within the galaxy of black culture and it is aberrant and depraved.
Now for the weak among us: sure there are good blacks but they are a minority and afraid to speak out. And I am sympathetic toward their plight.
Now for the kicker: This is soley the fault of white progs who have for 50 years have done their best to destroy blacks in order to get them to become their slaves-again.
Re. the BS on Egypt violence. Pickpocketing MAY have been unknown, but only because no one has anything in their pockets but the unholy koran.
Assault and rape happen frequently. It’s what koranimals do.
And I think these NBP and pislam supporting blacks should be dumped in any koranimal country. They are SO STUPID they don’t know that koranimals hate blacks and enslave them to this day.
So they support koranimals and piss and moan about whitey and slavery. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
You’re an idiot for the tone of your remarks.
As for the facts, I’ve been in truly massive crowds in Rio 30 times at least, 5 Carnivals, who knows how many soccer games, 6 days of Rock In Rio, and to put money in your pocket is to lose it – period and they’ll unzip a daypack faster than you can believe.
In Tahrir, I had money in my pocket in massive crowds a dozen times – no problem. Camera bag on my back with vulnerable zippers and lenses in a way I never would do in Rio, or even a crowded street in India.
Skin endows nothing and takes nothing away.
Effective gun control consists of placing all of you shots into the X ring. Period. Avoid mobs of roaming ‘black youth’. Retreat if at all possible. When all else fails be prepared to defend yourself with deadly force.
Amen to that. The only such mobs do that kind of stuff is because they can get away with it. Several decades of liberal indulgence has produced this sorry situation. Several generations of black youth have been so conditioned to helplessness and a sense of grievance that the only thing they can think to do for fun is rob people and kill their friends.
it’s not just liberal indulgence, it is also an overheated case of white guilt. Get over the latter. Not a single person here ever owned a slave, not a single thug on the street ever was one. More folks need to take steps mirroring those of the author’s brother, be it with a club or, more likely, a gun.
Thugs, particularly groups of black thugs, count on whites to cower; it is classic mentality. The bully is the bully until someone smacks him in the mouth. I am all for avoiding confrontation when necessary, but am not willing to take a beating for anyone. I am far more willing to lose a fight than to run from one, but these punks count on passivity, they count on weakness, they count on you being unarmed and unprepared.
The problem is that liberals hate personal responsibility, so they avoid it by selling endless group-rights victimology scenarios instead. That way the cowards can pretend to be champions without accusing any individual criminals of their crimes!
It amuses (and sickens) me, that the MSM are always digging for “reparations” for Black slavery in the USA, while ignoring the real, historic FACTS: Africa has for long been the object of eastern Islamic domination, control and slavery, under the Arabians, Egyptians, and Sudanese of old.
I’ve always wondered at the left’s insistance that it’s always the White Man’s fault, and that therefore all the guilt and reparations are still THE WHITE MAN’S BURDEN to bear, but then it hit me:
Liberals are racists – they always assume that ONLY White, Western people (including, of course, the Jews in Israel,) are INTELLIGENT enough to be judged guilty of being truly evil, while all their pet “People Of Colour” (including, of course, the “swarthy palestinians,”) just can’t help being violent animals, the poor oppressed little dears, so they’ll always indulge their crimes, much as one ignores the new puppy as it pees on the rugs.
So here’s some FACTS, (wryly coached in the liberal’s own usual victimology-sales terms for them):
When the ancestors of the Germans, French, and British lined their tall ships up along the African coast, the Arab moslems sold them some of their own stocks of Black slaves, from their thousands-of-years-old historic slave markets – for a time, until the cowardly Westerners became relatively quickly ashamed of themselves, and all those White men voted to end what they called the “vile,” entrenched islamic practice world-wide, thus imposing their unwanted cultural values of universal freedom on the helpless slavers.
Without this farce, today’s Black American descendants would still be back in Africa, and still enslaved to some moslem Arabs, inshallah!
“It amuses (and sickens) me, that the MSM are always digging for “reparations” for Black slavery in the USA, while ignoring the real, historic FACTS…..”
I don’t feel guilty about past injustice of American black slavery at all. After all, if it weren’t for their ancestors being American slaves, where would most American blacks be? Probably living in the Sudan or Somalia, eking out a pitiful existence trying to plant corn on a parched half-acre, living in a dried-mud hut and having to walk a mile every day to the nearest well for water. A lot worse than what they have now. And many of them, athletes and businessmen, today very rich. All because their ancestors were slaves, brought here from Africa. In no way am I justifying the injustice of slavery. But, lets get real. Reparations?
Hey, when do I get reparations from the Turkish government for the FIVE HUNDRED YEARS of enslavement my ancestors suffered at the hands of the Ottoman Empire?
Just askin’.
“Beyond that, there is a need for an armed citizenry exercising a constitutional right to carry a weapon. When the social order has been violated by mobs seeking to inflict harm on innocents, the people themselves need to re-establish conditions where they are not defenseless against those who can choose at random to make them victims.”
If it comes to that, then you have the total breakdown of law and order. It’s time to call out the National Guard and have them stay on the streets and patrol the neighborhoods after the cops leave. Only a permanent presence of force will stop the gangs. Force is the only thing they understand and it’s the only thing at this stage of the game that will restore order. But if everybody had guns and started shooting at each other, that’s not a solution. It would be worse than Dodge City in the old west and more people would get killed, not less. Call in the National Guard and have a permanent presence on the streets, at least for a few months until the gang members get the message and knock off the killings.
That is the Dodge City of TV and not the real West. During the 19th century you were safer in a Dodge City gambling den/brothel then you were walking the streets of New York, Boston or Philadelphia.
Right you are…
There was no “wild west”, it was all dime novel sensationalism sold to gulable easterners. At no time did Dodge City or any “frontier town” have a per capita homocide rate approaching that of New York, Philly, Baltimore or Boston.
Most of the male “substantial citizens” of the late 1860′s to 1890′s who owned homes, businesses, and were raising families, were Civil War vets. They’d seen 10,000 men killed in a single afternoon. They assaulted cannons with bayonets. They were not a squeemish of fearful lot, and would not tolerate much nonsense from ANYONE.
So the notion that a few “cowboys” riding into town, shooting PISTOLS into the f*@%ing AIR would generate anything but contempt, (and an asswhooping) is foolish talk.
Regular old Armed American Men knew right and wrong kept things in order.
Used to be like that, back when we were unapologetically Free, and EXPECTED the obligation/responsibility of keeping ourselfs that way.
Not no more
How delightful to know there’s someone out there who actually knows HISTORY.
Thank you! And you’re dead right on this issue. I have a feeling that issuing everyone a revolver might sort things out today in jiffy time. Certainly rid us of the cockroaches.
Thanks….
Not sure that would work any more, we past the tipping point around ’63-65 I suspect.
The “problem areas” have no Americans of the Original Kind, Honestly Invested in whats “theirs”…cities now are cesspool of breeding Failed Staters, 4th generation entitlement recipients, commies and sissies, all looking for something to loot, steal, mooch, grab or “complain” their hands onto, before its gone.
We can only hope contain it, like Chernobyl, but it will never be a place to happily go.
Whole swaths of America will never BE America, ever again.
Couldn’t agree more. Go Galt!
I did in 1970.
I would like to see an America where it’s the gangbangers and the flash mob thugs who live in fear, NOT the law abiding.
I don’t think that gun control makes us safer in 21st century America. But if we point at Dodge City as a safe environment, honesty compels us to point out that Dodge City had ordinances against carrying firearms, whether openly or concealed.
As with most 19th century gun control ordinances, those of Dodge City were enforced selectively, i.e. only against racial minorities and known troublemakers. (Only a quarter of the cowboys passing through on cattle drives were white. A quarter were black freed slaves from Texas, a quarter were Mexicano, and another quarter were Native American.)
“Call in the National Guard and have a permanent presence on the streets, at least for a few months until the gang members get the message and knock off the killings.”
Criminals are used to seeing crackdown efforts, and they know they will be ineffective and temporary. A National guard soldier, deployed with typical politically correct ROE, will be about as useful as a gun buyback program. CITIZENS must throw off the shackles of the nanny state, take responsibility for thier own welfare, organize and fight back.
“If it comes to that, then you have the total breakdown of law and order.”
Actually, no. What you have when the people exercise their right to self-defense is the distributed imposition of law and order.
IMHO, the attitude of “let the police handle that” has been a contributor *TO* the break down in law and order. The police can’t be everywhere, and we shouldn’t expect them to be.
You’re right, of course. My only concern is that when people start fighting back the liberal chuckleheads in charge will make examples of those defending themselves a la Zimmerman.
Someone bearing the full brunt of the jack-booted law on their throat is a terrible burden. We have to support each other and let the liberals know that we’re not going to tolerate them offering us up to their PC gods for sacrifce.
Yeah, but they always have the upper hand…
Look how much “truth” their is in the Trayvon case, how its all FACTUALLY unraveling…. his supporters all know what went down, they know their story is full of holes and false, they know theyre lying with the overt partisan help of the media.
But they also know, Zimmerman is in JAIL, and even if he gets aquitted, their WILL BE looting, riots, and some new accomodations thrown their way to soothe the “root causes”
They win, we lose, no matter HOW things turn out.
As the case against Zimmerman unravels, I predict he will be convicted of perjury. He may be innocent of murder, but he doesn’t seem to have the best judgement and they will probably be able to get him on something.
If there _are_ riots over this, guess what? People living in right-to-carry states will carry and defend themselves, and people living in places like California, Illinois, Massachusetts and New York will learn the cost of victim disarmament.
@fsilber – His judgement (Zimmerman) might be fine but he has a lousy lawyer. The money was signed over to the lawyer to prevent ALL of this. But so far both Zimmerman and his wife are in jail because of advise from the lawyer.
The evil ghetto thug Trayvon Martin already got his justice.
The Zimmermans’ persecutor, Eric Holder, will soon get his justice, at the hands of the US Congress.
The Zimmermans themselves, and the American public … not so much.
“Yeah, but they always have the upper hand…” This does not have to be a truth. If we as citizens and voters refuse to remain sheepish and manipulable, the criminal element cannot retain the upper hand. Our Creator has endowed us with certain unalienable rights, but if we are not absolutely determined to keep those rights, and exercise them, there are a variety of human beings who will take them from us. It is up to each of us individually to determine whether we accept slavery, or remain free individuals from birth to death.
Tripe and twaddle! Libs always scream that the streets will run with blood if you let people arm and defend themselves. Yet time and time again it is proved a lie. An armed society is a polite society.
Learn it and live it.
In most of the 50 states a large percentage of us are legally armed and carrying everywhere. The legendary River of Blood runs deepest in those states where we can’t.
My guess is that welfare, plus communist agitating causes crime. Having welfare as a hammock for the uneducated and unproductive lets them do all kinds of destructive behaviors, but they seldom pay the full price for them.
They can get girls pregnant and don’t have to offer them “marriage” to support them. The gov’ment becomes your daddy. And the jails are full of them. Mostly black, uneducated. Want to see something really remarkable. Watch the tape of Johnny Cash at Fulsom Prison. Look at the prisoners in the background. They’re mostly white. If Johhny went to the prison today, he’d find mostly Black and Hispanic attendees far more than their proportion of the population.
And the communist agitating for mostly now non-existant discrimination. Come on people, slavery ended a long time ago and 60′s civil rights were passed 50 years ago. If you want the prosperity that America has to offer, get educated and behave. But if you persist in destructive behaviors, you will get the same results: dead or in jail. And you need to look in the mirror for the real culprit, its you.
You’re right. And thank you for using the word “communist”. Call’em what they are.
The historic background, today’s problem and solutions are elegantly laid out by one of America’s last historian-philosophers, Thomas Sowell, in his book “Black Rednecks and White Liberals”. Download it or order it today.
Communist agitating causes the plethora of coffee houses, or is it the other way around.
I agree that the entitlement mentality is a criminal attitude. Beyond that, our “War on Drugs” (like its alcohol Prohibition predecessor) provides huge profits for the criminal gangs and fuels their violence. Tens of thousands have died in Mexico as a consequence, along with many in the USA, including innocent victims.
Illinois has to join the other 49 states with concealed or open carry. The mobs knowing we may be carrying, may think twice about their bully tactics – never one on one, always many against one, so they are cowards. Rahm is a dismal failure as mayor in Chicago, and needs to have the mobs off the streets by 10PM or they will be hauled in to the police stations. Wake up Chicago.
We have Concealed Carry in Pennsylvania, but Philly crime rates are still atrocious. We have lots of black flash mobs attacking Whites now because they know most “white urban hipsters” they find in the city are weak lefty dweebs who wont fight back. Or carry a gun.
They have ZERO fear of anything, and the administartion/media complex will bend over backwards to minimize what happens.
Philly is a hell hole, like Detroit, but with a tourist trade to stay somewhat afloat. Run by the same party forever (guess?)
So, any SMART person with a Carry Permit stays the frig OUT of Philly, because you KNOW you’ll get “Zimmermanned” for sure if you ever dare defend yourself against them.
Opposite happened here. Virginia has always been a CC state, but decided a couple of years ago to allow open carry. Gangs that had been taking their first baby steps in Northern Virginia disappeared overnight, never to return. Black hooligans that used to come over the bridge for some “fun” started going over to Maryland, instead.
I remember one time seeing my building manager talking to some punky kids in our parking lot. I asked him what he said to them and he told me that he’d caught them spraying grafetti and told them, “See that building? Guns live there.” Never saw those kids again.
Thats what I meant Lolly….
“over the bridge” hasnt gotten any better, has it?
We hold the line in the Burbs too, but the CITY of Philadelphia is still a no-go for anyone who values their safety.
Even in the Burbs, it would be “Zimmerman city” if we ligitimately shoot one, Cops and Procecutors being the Political animals they are, always in need of taxes and you know who panders for that…
You’ll be alive, but the rest of your life will be ruined by The State, thats for sure.
“(In Philly) We have lots of black flash mobs attacking Whites (despite a good concealed carry law) because they know most `white urban hipsters’ they find in the city are weak lefty dweebs who wont fight back. Or carry a gun.” — Well, that’s their problem, isn’t it?
“Any SMART person with a Carry Permit stays the frig OUT of Philly, because you KNOW you’ll get `Zimmermanned’ for sure if you ever dare defend yourself against them.” — It’s always prudent to avoid trouble, but the main thing in places like Philly is to learn all the rules (read Ayoob’s _In the Gravest Extreme_) and make sure you do everything right. They can’t Zimmerman you unless you give them an opening.
Zimmerman came under the microscope because he shot a single unarmed teenager who had no significant criminal record. He put himself in danger when he got out of his SUV to follow a man he thought might be a criminal — with no provision for the possibility the man might be violent yet unarmed. Zimmerman’s skill in empty-hand fighting was obviously inadequate, and he brought no less-than-lethal options in case the justification for deadly force might not be obvious. If he’d more securely carried his tiny gun in a pocket holster instead of on his belt, and if he’d also carried a can of FoxLabs pepper spray, he’d be a free man today. (I’m not saying that Zimmerman was wrong to follow Martin, but a man has got to know his limitations.)
Thanks to PA’s concealed carry law at least you’re fairly safe in good neighborhoods. According to the author, in Illinois staying out of bad areas is no longer effective, as the gangs are unafraid to march into _good_ neighborhoods en masse to commit violent crimes.
“Zimmerman’s skill in empty-hand fighting was obviously inadequate…. if…he had his gun in a pocket holster instead of…. if….carried a can of FoxLabs pepper spray… …he got out of his SUV… …and make sure you do everything right…”
Oh for f_cking cryin’ out loud, fsilber!
And, by the way, if he had his gun in any other place then where he had it, he would be dead now!!
(This is an example of the intense hold of white guilt [vis-a-vis the historical mistreatment of blacks] even on the minds of conservative-leaning individuals.)
When I read through the comments here I read “Rahm is a failure”. “Washington liberal / communist bleeding hearts’ policies have failed”.
No, they haven’t. It isn’t Chicago’s leadership that has failed. They are exactly where they want to be, promoting exactly what they want to promote to achieve exactly the goal they are after.
Chicago minorities/Democratic voters don’t need to wake up.
We do, and we need to get off our collective arses and DO something about the mess the country is in, or we need to divide it up and go our separate ways. I don’t want to live like they do in chicago/philly/NYC/SF/LA. We’re running out of places to move to.
And that is EXACTLY the goal. Keep on blaming the Communists. More like we should blame the ones who don’t STOP the Communists. It’s all useless hot air talk otherwise.
18 dead and 110 wounded in Chicago the last 3 weekends. No press releases from the NBA Players Assoc. in sight.
I will be going to the wedding of my neice in a few weeks, and if i want to go “downtown” chicago, I WILL BE PACKING….i have a ccw permit from Georgia, aand i will not be beaaten up….My Constution says that i have the right to own and BEAR a deadly weapon….
This is precisely why I carry a concealed weapon. I carry it to the mall, the grocery store, when camping, to church, mail from the mailbox. If I have my pants on, you may assumed that I armed.
My wife used to not understand; she thought I was a bit paranoid. Then, after years of people being assaulted in malls, groceries, parks, churches and in there own homes, she understands.
Now, with the recent outbreak of this new “sport”, she’s considering carrying a weapon herself.
I agree 100%
I carry 24/7, not as “paranoia” but as simple responsibility.
The only way I can be SURE it is secure and under my control, is to HAVE IT secured, and under my control.
I actually believe I OWE that to my fellow citizens.
To the folks who say “but why do you need to bring it into the Bank, the Restarant, movie theater, or Starbucks?”
Please consider the alternative:
Would you feel better if I “manipulated” my concealed firearm, out in public, several times a day?
In and (potentially) OUT OF “concealment” as I get it in and out of my holster, from my person to my glove compartment, and back again, several times throughout my day?
Would me repeatedly removing magazines and racking slides to make it “safe”, then the reverse to make it “ready”, make YOU feel safe? How would you feel should you happen to witness me doing that, say in a parking lot or Public Rest Room?
Where WOULD I be able to responsibly do this, without the potential for alarming someone? Even cars have windows.
And, you’d prefer I left it UNATTENDED in my car for some time? Where it can be stolen without my immediate knowledge?
All because I’m going to several “nice” places today, where you dont expect me “need” to shoot people?
Or, I could just BE a responsible citizen, and carry my legal firearm (anywhere and everywhere) without “playing with it” several times a day, because THATS the simplest and safest option for everyone?
First, forgive my faulty memory but I seem to remember a young lady in Texas going out to dinner with her parents. The young lady had a concealed carry permit but (I believe) the restaurant had a no guns policy or she just decided her gun would not be needed. As they were dining a crazed gunman entered and began shooting at anyone and everyone in sight. Both her parents were killed by the gunman along with several others before someone was able to stop him. How different would things have been if she had decided to wear her gun that day?
The restaurant was Luby’s in Killeen TX. The woman was Suzanna Gratia Hupp. She has spent the rest of her life making a VERY powerful argument for concealed carry.
Sure, guns help. But, is that the answer?
Please let me be clear: I’m not against carrying. I just that thing carrying is a sign of weakness. Police weakness, that is.
This is one reason, after all, why we pay taxes: security. It means threats from the likes of Al Qaeda. It also means protections from Flash Mobs.
Are they poor? Having culture/education deficits? Could be, but I don’t care less. I’m tired understanding.
This is where police, or maybe groups of volunteer, would step up.
How many police officers do you suppose it would take to be everywhere, all the time? Twice the current number? Four times? Ten times?
I’ve been to work, out for lunch, drove back home. I encountered hundred of people today, and I recall seeing one cop, while walking down the street to a restaurant for lunch. Hundreds of encounters one cop. There will never be enough cops to be everywhere – and I’m SURE that you wouldn’t like it if there were.
I carry a gun because I can not carry a cop all day. To meet me on the street you would never know it though, and I would like to keep it that way, I am armed at all times and have plenty of ammunition, and am a good enough shot to put just about any man no matter how drug crazed down with two shots!
“When seconds count, the police are only minutes away!”
What’s happening in Chicago, and in other metro areas, illustrates a couple of things:
- that the “Broken Windows” theory is correct. If you ignore small crimes you encourage larger crimes by eroding the rule of law. Chicago is a ghetto of men, not laws.
- that the axiom “Being poor is a financial condition while poverty is a way of life” is also correct. News accounts of inner city poverty always say “society needs to do more” without any comprehension that the young thugs are part of society. In fact, those young thugs are the prime societal forces creating the poverty.
Lastly, one has to conclude that what’s happening is what the Community Leaders want to happen. It’s not as if the situation suddenly appeared last week, it’s been ongoing for 50 years. The Community Leaders know what the problems are and they know how to resolve them; that they don’t is clear evidence that inner city poverty is a feature of “The Great Society” and not a bug.
” The Community Leaders know what the problems are and they know how to resolve them”
Sounds too much like work.
Fast food joints now take EBT cards, and they get free cell phones too.
Breaze and easy, and yell racism when you run low.
Whole lot easier than “resolving” something, aint it?
Bread & circuses — *may* work in the short run, but never over time. You’d think the whole world would know this by now …
I am a Chicago native (Rogers Park when it was a nice middle class neighborhood) who has lived in Arlington, Virginia for the past 30 years or so. I rarely leave the house without being armed. I don’t walk around with a gun because I live in a dangerous community, Arlington’s murder rate is less than the UK’s, or because I am paranoid. I do it because you never know when you might be that rare victim of an attack. Not having a gun when you need it is very embarrassing. There is no such thing as “a safe neighborhood.” There are only varying degrees of risk. While Arlington has good socio-economic characteristics we have our share of illegals, drugs and TCO activity. (Big MS-13 presense in Northern Virginia.)
An armed citizenry reduces crime at the margin. It is highly unlikely that “minority” flash mobs will attack people in the streets or Mr. Singh’s convenience store anywhere in Virginia because they will be shooting craps where a loss means ending on a metal table.
Chicago would do well in letting its citizens be armed. Certainly the law abiding people of Streeterville won’t be gunning each other down but I guarantee after the first flash mobber shot while attacking a resident flash mobs will disappear from Chicago’s crown jewel neighborhood. This will never happen until the Chicago machine is put out of business. As the Chicago magazine has documented the gang leadership is an integral part of the political structure. The machine isn’t interested in setting its poor residents free. It uses the gangs and gang violence to keep people poor, on the dole and voting Democratic. This, and other flash mob attacks, are the first indications that containment is breaking down. This will eventually infect the entire city and like all wasting diseases will kill the body.
As much as I love the City of my birth and youth I do not go there unless it is for an increasingly rare family affair. How ironic that I am much safer in Virginia where my right to carry is unrestricted then I am in “gun free” Chicago.
When my brother was a physician at Northwestern University Hospital, he lived in Streeterville, but that was 25 years ago and a universe far, far away.
“He says the motive wasn’t racial, as he’s Asian.”
Does he really not know that blacks are just as racist toward Asians?
It’s easier to believe that than to admit the reality, I guess.
8. tdiinva is right. This isn’t about racial inferiority (which is that wretch John Derbyshire’s take on it) but about, as tdiinva says, “The machine isn’t interested in setting its poor residents free. It uses the gangs and gang violence to keep people poor, on the dole and voting Democratic.”
If it WAS all about race, then the various Caribbean island nations that are as black as Haiti would BE like Haiti, but they obviously are not. (And other examples could be brought up from many areas worldwide.)
The other commentators talking about the culture these kids grow up in are right too, (rap music is vile, etc.) but that culture is tolerated and promoted by the Left political machine.
If the Left ever takes over (and Bam is showing he doesn’t mind mini-coups against the constitution, so maybe one day he’ll try a bigger version of what’s he’s been up to) they’ll do what Napoleon did to the mobs of Paris–turn the cannon on them.
But until a Left takeover, the miserable kids who are perpetrating this violence have a use. And they’ll be so used.
An Préachán
This is absolutely about racial inferiority. The troublemakers are descendants of Africans bought to this continent to work as agricultural laborers. Africans have an average IQ of around 75 to 80, this makes a written language impossible, also impossible is achieving any usable level of numeracy or literacy. There is not a single nation in sub-saharan africa that can be considered “advanced”, that means now and throughout history. As the USA has become a more complex society so the African American community has been less and less able to fit in, this fact has been exploited by race hustlers such as Sharpton, Jackson, et al, in order for them to achieve political power and extract wealth from white society. What we are seeing is, as LA calls it; “a black intifada” against whites and white society, caused by black frustration at their inability to compete or even use white society effectively. Your comparison of Caribbean states is flawed, Haiti is the only Caribbean state where whites were ejected completely, Haiti could be considered the Caribbean Detroit.
Finally for those who reject my analysis; ask yourselves; if Chinese coolie labor had been imported instead of Africans, would we have the racial problems we have with the slaves descendants, you all know we wouldn’t because Chinese are generally smart, hard working people who would have integrated into modern US society without the ghettos and criminality associated with the Africans.
Oh please. Until the welfare state took over in the 1970s black Americans had a hardworking family-oriented culture–the same kind of culture you will find everywhere in a more or less free-market economy. What was needed to raise their socio-economic status was equality of opportunity. Instead, the family was terribly damaged and normal economic incentives destroyed by stupid welfare policies. Daniel Patrick Moynahan sounded the alarm then. And, of course it isn’t just black Americans being damaged by these policies, it is people of all racial and ethnic backgrounds.
“And, of course it isn’t just black Americans being damaged by these policies, it is people of all racial and ethnic backgrounds”
This is true, particularly for the huge swarms now here from Failed States who have no experience with our culture, the rule of law, contracts, private property rights, language, or a productive work ethic (as it was crushed by the state they came from)
Flood the cities and social services with these for 30 years, and you have a disaster that can NEVER be fixed.
Emily,
It must be really comfortable in that bubble of delusion you exist in; there was no golden age of black families, what there were, were lots of low level agricultural and industrial jobs that blacks (and low IQ whites) could handle and make a reasonable living at. Those jobs are gone now, automated or exported makes no difference. There are lots of cities and countries that have generous social policies and generally left of center governments that are prosperous, the bogey man of socialism does not explain what we are experiencing with our black population. What does explain our problems is low IQ and genetically inherent anti social behaviour, in other words; Africans will be Africans wherever they are.
I’m with Emily on this. From about Reconstruction to the late 60s, despite Jim Crow, blacks were doing well in education, had stable families, and very little children born out of wedlock. Emily said nothing about a golden age-that was you-but on the whole blacks were doing better before LBJ and welfare came along. We got jazz from this era; now we get rap (if you can really call that music). There were the Tuskegee airmen and now we get Spike Lee, 50pennies and black flash mobs.
Then tell us what what mythical socialist nation is doing well. Sure maybe northern European ones who are homogenous and with taxation rates of 70% but outside that socialist nations are a POS.
It is you who is living in a house of delusion
You think black folks are genetically violent? You must be nuts to say something like that.
I also agree with Emily: do a little reading about George Washington Carver or Elijah McCoy; or read the erudite works of Walter E. Williams and Thomas Sowell.
If the tendency of Africans to be of lower intelligence isn’t an issue, then how do you explain the pattern of lower test scores among members of their race who have had exposure to the best educational & environmental (home life) experiences possible according to studies that have been conducted over the years?
My own personal experiences with people of African descent, from fellow students to teachers to coworkers have shown me that they display patterns of behavior that point to the notion that they simply are not as bright as those of other races. A rather blunt observation, I know, but it’s the truth.
Tests are racist! Didn’t you get the memo?
I heard that. Any excuse will do in their quest to hide from the truth.
Fortunately for all of us, Roger of Florida, your racist theory of causation fails on a number of levels. Half of us have below-average intelligence, by definition. Even if there were racial differences in measurable IQ (the evidence is ambiguous), the problem is the bad values and false ideas taught to our young every day by our popular culture and atheistic schools since the 1960s. Without decent values and truth, smart people become smart thugs. Without truth-based education people act in accordance with false narratives an become leftists (or racists). You can fight false ideas with false ideas, but you won’t persuade people who want to live according to truth. So go educate yourself.
I think you would benefit from a mental reset. A good place to start on “African-American” culture would be the essay by Thomas Sowell referred to in an earlier post, “Black Rednecks and White Liberals.” The “liberal” contribution to the destruction of the American ideal of equality of opportunity is nicely summarized in Shelby Steele’s “White Guilt.” The reasons for income disparities between Blacks and other groups in America are well laid out in Sowell’s “Markets and Minorities.” The “root causes” of crime are well explained in James Q. Wilson’s “Crime in America” and other works. The bottom line? Income “inequality” and higher crime rates are largely explained by the fact that the black population was and remains disproportionately younger than almost every other group in the US (with the possible exception of Hispanics) and younger people make less money and young men are more likely to engage in violent behavior. Then add to that root cause all the other cultural factors (such as the leftist cultural revolution beginning in the 1960s) and misguided government programs (i.e., liberal ideology) and you have the makings of a persistent social pathology.
There are none so blind as those who won’t see, which sums you up. Of the three major racial groups in humanity; asiatics, caucasians and negroes, the highest group average IQ goes to asiatics, with caucasians second by a small margin (approx. 5 points) and negroes in last place by approx. 25 points, ashkenazi jews have the highest IQ of all but are a subset of caucasians. If you are a caucasian of average intelligence in the caucasian group you would be in the top 5% of negroes but equal to a pretty dumb jew. In a color blind society this would not matter as people would be judged by their individual characteristics, but we do not have a color blind society, blacks realise that they are at the bottom of the economic tree and ascribe this to white racism, in which belief they are encouraged by people like you. The frustration they feel is now being expressed as hatred and violence against white people and to a lesser extent other races, but the most numerous victims of black violence are other blacks. To the point of the article I would say that blacks are not criminals because thay are poor, they are poor because they are criminals.
I will ignore your arrogant rhetoric and point out to you that your response does not address my comment and is in fact largely irrelevant to it. First of all, if income inequality in the US can be adequately accounted for by standard economic theory, and crime by standard demographic analysis, Occam’s razor says we don’t need to resort to the current state of psychometrics, which is still in its infancy, or “racism” to find the answer to the question posed by the author. Second, the American idea of equality is based on natural (i.e., God-given)right, not natural capacities. Even if the psychometricians are right, you’re talking about two or more population distributions with displaced means across a pretty broad range, so there will still be a great many African-Americans who are more intelligent than most non-African Americans. When I was a graduate student in Economics at the University of Chicago I hired a math tutor who was an African-American and about twice as smart as me. I regularly read things written by African-Americans who are brilliant. So what? I’m much less impressed with intelligence than I am with values. I think a “dumber” population with better (e.g.: “bourgeois”) values will outperform a “smarter” population with worse (e.g.: “slacker”) values in a free society. What liberals did to African-Americans was to destroy the legitimacy of bourgeois values as “inauthentic.” Third, if intelligence trumped values then, according to the data you cite, we would have seen the scientific and industrial revolutions and the subsequent explosion of living standards begin in Asia, not Europe. But it was not intelligence that created that transformation in Europe but a cultural revolution (read McCloskey’s “Bourgeois Dignity” if you don’t believe me).
All you’ve proven is that, alas, there still are conservative racists out there. Unfortunately, the PC smog that stifles so much free expression gives some people the idea that anything that upsets the PC apple cart is “brave” or “true.” No, sometimes it’s just dumb.
You speak Truth Roger.
Like wheat, various strains(races) of human populations have genetic traits. Intelligence is one of those and it is, like the sun rising in the east(more or less)… a truth which only the maggots(progressives/liberals) ignore.
A good place to start on “African-American” culture would be the essay by Thomas Sowell referred to in an earlier post, “Black Rednecks and White Liberals.”
I’m not impressed by this line of argument. if mobs of white men ran around beating up blacks and Asians, we would not see these efforts to justify their actions as being “cultural” or “socioeconomic”. It would be called what it is – racism.
But it seems that 100% of liberals and 90% of “conservatives” are inherently incapable of describing racist behavior by blacks (and other constituencies of the Democratic Party) as racist behavior.
Okay, Roger is right in what he says but he is comparing apples to oranges. IQ levels in Africa are lower per capita. But that is Africa. The lower IQ levels are due to many factors such as diet, inbreeding and such. African-Americans have no such excuses. Most have been in this country for generations. More than enough time for those factors to have been overcome.
The main problems here are more cultural. A majority of blacks live in inner city environments with little or no chance at getting out. In many cases a gang and drug mentality prevails. Most of the schools in the poorer black neighborhoods are way below par. Those that do really want to learn are looked down on by their peers as kissing the whitey’s behind. Why bother learning when you can just join a gang, sell drugs or your old lady and make far more than you could ever make working for a living. Of course, if you don’t make enough selling drugs you can always fall back on welfare. I mean it’s free money. The more kids you have the more money they throw at you.
Then there’s people like Roger. Telling them day in and day out it’s not their fault. They aren’t smart enough to make it in a white world. They just need to stay in their place and take what’s given to them. Then, when they figure they aren’t being given enough they take what they want because everyone knows it’s the man keeping them down. I mean that’s what the Rev. Jessie and the Rev. Al are saying so it has to be so, right?
To make the race problem go away we’ve got to break this cycle somehow. The problem is we have to start early. Better Elementary schools, better teachers, a better attitude towards learning. Get them away from the gangs. With a better education and a better attitude comes better paying jobs and a better life.
“The problem is we have to start early. Better Elementary schools, better teachers, a better attitude towards learning. Get them away from the gangs. With a better education and a better attitude comes better paying jobs and a better life.”
This is hardly a new concept that has never before been shouted out from the mountaintops. The trouble is finding a way to implement said concept. IMO, it’s going to take strong black leaders who don’t want to exploit their own community to pave the way for such a concept to take hold & come to fruition. Why do you suppose such black leadership has not emerged?
But, but, but, they’ve got the Revs Jessie and Al to lead them! /sarc.
Many strong black leaders have tried but they have been shouted down. How dare they try to take away all those benefits and entitlements.What you mean we needs a edjikashun, we’s being kept down by the man and them Demoncrats are our buddies. They keep our money coming. If them whiteys would just stop putting us down and give us some of that loot they’s sitting on we’d be fine. That Uncle Tom saying we need to improve ourselves is just working for the man, he don’t know we needs our money to keep coming from the govment. Huh? What you mean that’s my kid? Do I know you? Well, whoever you are, I gets my share of that loot you’s gonna get from havin that kid.
Put an end to the welfare state; indeed, I am all for that. Please note though that most people on welfare are white (where are all the white gangstas going around in flash mobs beating up people?), but I digress. Bumping these people off the welfare rolls will help some, but when you get down to the nitty-gritty, you’re talking culture & intelligence. It really isn’t any more complicated than that.
IF the left take over? Where have you been? The left are in charge of damned near everything!
Predators are aggressive when the the cost of that aggression is cheap. When they are made to pay for that aggression, they have less of a taste for it. Apparently the mayor and chief of police are not going to move against the thugs, choosing to blame everyone but the animals involved. That denial should give the honest, law abiding citizen pause as to why they live where they do.
“Our continually reinforced ethnic tribalism really comes down to: we don’t give a damn about black-on-black violence or what happens in the deteriorating parts of our city.”
Blacks don’t care about black-on-black violence. Heck, they celebrate it.
This article was spot-on in a number of respects, but it lost me utterly when it praised the attempts of “courageous women” to “take back the night”.
That’s a radical feminist meme. When did conservatives start to parrot the talking points of man-hating feminists who want males aborted in the womb?
Flash mobs of feminists are MORE EVIL than flash mobs of rioters — and if Abraham Miller had any balls, he’d acknowledge this.
Black street violence is not about poverty. It’s about a subculture that glorifies ignorance, drugs, violence, brutality, and misogyny. It’s about a segment of the population that has been told repeatedly that they are owed something. It’s about an aggrieved, uneducated directionless mass of disaffected wannabee gansters who believe that they are due respect merely because they exist. Its about envy and laziness, and choosing the easy path.
In my view we’re not too far off from the urban death squads of Brazil. Not the political/anti-insurgency death squads of El Salvador but like those in Brazil where former and current police officers and civilians simply carry out retributive justice against street urchins & riff-raff.
Bernie Goetz looks more and more to have been a sane, rational citizen.
The left wing strategy is to use groups and classes as political props to further their totalitarian (i.e, left wing) agenda; or more precisely, to attain power for themselves and screw over EVERYBODY ELSE. You will note that the left wing reserves for themselves the right to “define” the anointed classes. These classes are simply cannon-fodder and will be dispensed with or more probably, totally destroyed, if the left wing gains power.
We see that today with Obama and his inner group of elitist, wealthy, aristocratic, arrogant black advisors (most of whom are partially white; its no secret that light skinned blacks despise dark skinned blacks and consider them dumb, stupid, ignorant field n*****s). You would think that Obama and his black advisers would move heaven and earth to institute school choice and help remove poor inner city blacks from the cesspools they have for “schools.”
Of course, Obama and his bunch do nothing of the sort because they consider inner city blacks as stupid slaves whose sole purpose is to provide votes for liberal/left wing politicians. By keeping them poor, ignorant and on the dole, they literally buy their votes.
The black liberal politician (and their white slave masters) is nothing more than a black KKK member with an invisible sheet. Sharpton, Jackson, Obama would be given honorary membership in the KKK for achieving what the KKK was unable to do; totally destroy black families generation upon generation.
You will be hard pressed to find any group of people whose hatred and contempt for ordinary black folks exceeds that of the elitist, wealthy, arrogant, light-skinned, educated black elites. They are the modern day house n*****s for the ruling WHITE LIBERAL MILLIONAIRE POWER ELITES of the democratic party.
“I don’t know what the root causes of mindless violence are any more than I know what the root causes of a British soccer riot are.”
Really? You talked about the causes throughout the article and then say you don’t know what they are? You sir are the cause. You and the millions of others who make believe they don’t know. It is this: because we ALLOW it as a culture because we are too damned afraid of telling the truth.
It is because of fear of the retribution of being called racist and facing the physical destruction in our cities that will be the temporary price to pay during the period when (if) we finally get tough enough to tell the truth and use whatever means are necessary to stop this beastly behavior. This means accepting the possibility that large numbers of people, almost all black and latino, will have to be lost to the mayhem. We are close to a time when we will actually lose our country in any form that we are used to thinking of America. The streets of America are turning into beastly jungles of killing in front of our eyes as we hear the gnashing of teeth by so many who simply can’t bear the truth.
“But if everybody had guns and started shooting at each other, that’s not a solution. It would be worse than Dodge City in the old west…”
…or the South Side of Chicago or New Orleans or Detroit or Baltimore or [insert your favorite black urban battle ground here]. Plenty of armed people in those places — doesn’t seem to reduce the violent crime much.
I don’t understand the concept of carrying your own piece as a real deterant. The advantage comes only if you have the element of surprise. Once the criminals start assuming you’re carrying, they’ll adjust for it, and attacks will continue but on a deadlier scale, just like in the inner cities all around the country. Refer to the annecdote in the article of the truck driver’s attackers returning with heavier ammo. I’m not saying we should give up for fear of escalation, only that I think carrying a gun could give a false sense of security and may not, in the end, be the deterant we hope it would be. If carrying a gun becomes more common, plan on escalating violence. The criminal mind, being more aggressive, will always think of ways to prey on the non-criminal mind.
Andrea:
You present ineresting hypothesis. However, we already have a wealth of evidence to test your claim. The expansion of gun rights and ownership over the past two decades coincided with a drop in crime. We see no change in tactics by criminals other than a more selectivee approach to choosing victims.
Another indicator that refutes your hypothesis is the low number of hot burgluries and home invasions in the US. A hot burgluries takes place when home is occupied. These are rare a nd are usually a mistake on the part of the thief. Home invasions are usually just criminal on criminal violence. In the gunless UK it is standard operating procedure.
The places you cite as wild west like are places where general public is unarmed. As I said in response to another post the so-wild west was like Arlington is today, not like Chicago’s south and west sides.
I assure you that my wife, who carries a Bereta M-9, is much safer than you are disarmed in any threat environment.
“If carrying a gun becomes more common, plan on escalating violence.”
Ah, the “Wild West” argument. Hasn’t happened. Rather the opposite, in fact. Facts, reason and logic are not on your side in this argument. Cringing in fear and in cowardice (yes, cowardice) will get you nothing but unpleasant results. And it may even cost you your life.
“(But if everybody had guns and started shooting at each other it would be like) the South Side of Chicago or New Orleans or Detroit or Baltimore … Plenty of armed people in those places — doesn’t seem to reduce the violent crime much.” — I lived in New Orleans from 1989 into 2005. They got the shall-issue concealed carry law in 1996. It did nothing to prevent murders in the ghetto, but it _sharply_ reduced the incidence of middle-class people getting mugged, or middle-class women being abducted and raped (and sometimes murdered). The increase in muggers being justifiably shot to death was offset by the vast reduction of non-compliant victims being shot in the back while trying to flee.
“The advantage (of carrying your own piece) comes only if you have the element of surprise.” — That’s why it should be kept concealed.
“Once the criminals start assuming you’re carrying, they’ll adjust for it, and attacks will continue but on a deadlier scale” — that’s why we have the death penalty. The difference is that when robbery victims are murdered rewards are offered and the police actually try to solve the crime.
“The criminal mind … will always think of ways to prey on the non-criminal mind.” — Yes, one crime that greatly increased after people started carrying guns were 3am car thefts. But then we can install better alarms, lo-jack transmitting devices, hidden cameras, etc.
“I lived in New Orleans from 1989 into 2005. They got the shall-issue concealed carry law in 1996. It did nothing to prevent murders in the ghetto”
And that is my point. I believe those who have responded are envisioning an armed black populace vs. an unarmed white populace, thinking that arming the formerly undefended will deter black on white crime. It might for awhile.
My contentions are based on the crime I’ve read about in places I’ve lived where there was an armed black populace preying on a similarly armed black populace. It did nothing to deter crime. If anything, deaths from gunshot wounds went sky high. I’ve lived in Memphis, near Roosevelt, NY, & NOLA (1988-1996, sent our kids to NOLA public schools even).
If guns prevent crime, then why so much crime & gun death in the parts of town that are the most heavily armed?
tdiinva says there is a wealth of data to back up conceal & carry/decreased crime. Here’s a study from the Univ. of Chicago that says the major study that came to that conclusion hasn’t held up over time:
http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/LevittUnderstandingWhyCrime2004.pdf
The paper says the real reason for declining crime rates is better policing, increased incarceration, declining cocaine usage, and the effect of abortion.
IMO, the inner cities ARE the new Wild West (the lawless Wild West of popular imagination). You say the Wild West ain’t happening, but it is and has been for years. Inner city gun owners don’t seem to be very well protected when another gun owner really wants to target them, and the victims of stray bullets would probably say a negative thing about the lethality of more flying bullets too (if they could).
One thing you seem to forget in your theory. Guns are illegal to possess in Chicago. At least, they would like you to believe they are.
In the City of Chicago, there are no stronger gun laws that can be enacted. So explain why criminals have firearms? How can completely disarming the general populous change anything? Criminals will ALWAYS have a firearm, period. The ONLY thing you will be doing is preventing the law abiding citizen the opportunity to defend themselves with like violence.
So these punks aren’t following the law as it is. How will more laws change this fact? Do you really believe they will follow complete disarmament gun laws?
The state next door, Indiana, has carry permits. It also has the town of Gary which is notorious for crime. Indiana has FAR less crime than Illinois. They laugh at Illinoisans for allowing themselves to be so gullible and unprotected.
The gun laws and escalating crime rates is exactly the reason I left my childhood home of Illinois to move to a more pro-defensive state. I’ll never look back either.
I forgot to add:
Just because YOU are a COWARD, doesn’t mean everyone else should be forced into becoming defenseless.
First of all, I wasn’t arguing in favor of gun control laws. They are useless. I just wanted to explore the idea that carrying a gun will reduce crime. I think it’s a naive suburban fantasy, but time will tell. I was curious about the countering arguments, like the kind that tdiinva so graciously defended.
Secondly, I’m no coward — I volunteered in & sent my kids to New Orleans public schools for 8 years (it was a terrific experience, no regrets). Bet you couldn’t have done the same.
You are conflating the discussion. White Americans, for the most part, do not live in these netherworlds known as inner cities. What we are talking about regarding CCW is protecting ourselves from these animals in our neighborhoods.
If these slime come to our neighborhoods, then we should be able to protect ourselves and the stats have proved that out.
Who cares if blacks murder themselves in their inner city jungles. I care about the Americans who live outside of the cities. And if they must go into the cities they must be able to protect themselves. Pulling a Glock is a great reminder to a thug to back off or die.
Okay so according to you and the studies you cite, good white American citizens should be unarmed and willing to give up their liberty, freedoms and property to armed or unarmed thugs because CCW will not help. You can live in that reality, but I trust my reality and Sig.
“Who cares if blacks murder themselves in their inner city jungles.”
I do. There are some great kids there, caught in bad circumstances & hoping to get out. But you wouldn’t know that unless you volunteered in the public schools.
Andrea: SCHOOL CHOICE FOR EVERY FAMILY could be the antidote for our government K-12 school monopoly and its evils. Thomas Jefferson warned us that a poorly educated society will not remain free; he prescribed better education as the remedy.
Andrea:
There is nothing new about this result. In his book “More Guns, Less Crime,” John Lott, also of the University of Chicago, long ago pointed to better policing and demographics were the key the factors in reducing crime rates. He found armed law abiding citizens effect crime rates through deterrence by reducing the opportunity and payoff from criminal activity. He never claimed that it was all about the armed citizen. Your example of black on black gun play in New Orleans had nothing to do with armed law abiding citizens and everything to do with criminal on criminal violence. Criminals don’t obey laws.
The Canadian Library of Parliament, patterned after our Library of Congress, did a study at the behest of the government comparing violent crime statistics in the three Praire Provinces against four neighboring US states that were demographically similar. They found that violent crime rates were higher north of the border. While none of the states/provinces had high crime rates it shows that an armed population deters crime at the margin.
The key enabling factor in places like Chicago and New Orleans is the triangular relationship between gangs, the Democratic Party and corrupt police. All have a vested interested in continuing the pattern of violence. The fact the Louisiana passed Shall Issue CCW has nothing to do with gang violence. Gang members are either too young or felons and are not eligible to get a permit in the first place. What it does enable law abiding citizens to defend themselves if attacked. I have argued in many gun forums that armed citizens are more likely to shift crime from themselves to those who play the odds and refuse to acquire the means of effective self defense. Unless the attack results in the death or apprehension of the attacker he, or increasingly she, will just move on to another potential victim, i.e., bad guy runs into the Mrs. and retreats when she draws on him and then runs into you and you become the unarmed victim. (Almost all DGUs end without a shot being fired as the attacker decides that he would prefer an easier victim.)
The black on white, really non black, crime is actually quite low. Black on non black crime occurs about twice as much as the reverse but it is still on the order of 5% of the total. The real victims of black crime are the unfortunate residents who have to live among the rival gangs. They would be better served if their jurisdictions would enable their ability to defend themselves.
Very interesting, tdiinva. I’ll look for Lott’s book & give it a read.
Mr. Miller;
“But as the late James Q. Wilson so artfully pointed out decades ago, it might be that poverty causing crime is just another logical fallacy. Wilson challenged us to think that maybe it’s the other way around: crime causes poverty.”
Before we were a prosperous people, we were a free people, and before we were a free people, we were a moral people.
Before we were a moral people, we were savages, little different from the beasts, except that most wild beasts do not kill their own.
I think the government should institute a draft for these obviously dissafected and unintegrated youths. That is, create a program like the WPA of the 30′s to restore the nation’s infrastructure – sidewalks, small bridges, trails, rivers, dams. Because it is unlikely that thay will volunteer for duty, make it mandatory – if you are a high school dropout, not working, have a record of juvenile crime than you are subject to being drafted into a quasi military outfit to be taught the value of hard work and obedience and to contribute back to society.
I don’t see any other way, these feral youths are not going to change on their own.
Things like the WPA and CCC camps might have worked in the 1930′s but times have changed. The gangs today are not the Dead End End Kids!
Anysort of public works program would be a disaster. All you would get from that would be a better disciplined group of thugs under the influence of bureaucrats whose true motives might be less than pure, think Brownshirts. The people you are talking about would have no skills that would be useful anyway. In many cases they are almost wholly feral with no socialization at all.
One easy solution would be making permanent sterilization mandantory for people on any sort of welfare program. That would remove incentive to seek public aid and would gradually reduce the population who knew nothing but government support throughout their lives.
I think this is not a bad idea. The problem is, who would administer the program? We don’t seem to be able to run anything properly on the government side anymore. Maybe if a well-run city (right) or a well-run state like Indiana took it on and created a good model.
I ride my Mountain bike around the roads and streets, I used to carry water and snacks for when I hit the wall. Lately I’ve added a handgun to the bike bag passing groups of teenagers or just a single man walking down the road with a big stick has become a security issue, I usually give the people a wide berth and make speed my main defense but you cannot be fast or wide every time. The man on that deserted road with the long heavy stick may have the same fears I do thus the stick but then again STS (sudden trevon syndrome)race hate or greed for my Giant bike and any funds I may have could send the individual into a swinging rage without warning. Such times require a move to place the PDW covertly into a ready position. I don’t want no strife but I don’t want no Thunder dome either it’s a shame I cannot peacefully enjoy exercise and simply riding a bicycle without having to watch for people who hate me for my color of skin or desire what ever funds I may carry. It’s a shame I cannot take the weight of the PDW and replace it with water or snacks but things are different now and I ain’t gonna be the restitution for slavery these clowns are looking for.
Keep it close, like, on your person if at all possible.
Purses, brief cases, glove compartments, overcoat pockets and bike bags….anything that has the potential to be “seperated” from the “operator”…can be more liability than assest sometimes.
Do what you gotta do to stay safe, but dont sacrifice tactics for comfort.
Sad thing, lotta thugs here attack hard-core cyclists (in olympic level riding gear) who are obviously NOT carrying anything but water, and its not to “sell the bike” because “they be po”
They do it because it offends them to see anyone else do something positive.
(have the discipline to train, think, plan, be healthy, competent, etc.)
Same reason they break the smart kids glasses.
F-ing animals.
Excellent article. Let me share briefly some observations. We just returned from a two week trip to Italy and at the end of our stay we spent a day in Siena. It was a beautiful, old historic Tuscan city dating back to the 14th century. The city (population around 50,000)consists of many narrow streets and alley ways which makes walking pretty much a necessity. At night, walking back to our hotel from dinner, we were frequently the only ones strolling along the narrow alley ways, but as we observed and learned, Siena is one of the cleanest and safest cities in Italy and the Sienese people are cheerful and always willing to help “lost” strangers find thier way. This is primarily due to its “contrada” system of government dating back to 1310. “Contradas” are wards or districts. There used to be 42 but now there are 17 and each contrada or ward prides itself on keeping itself clean and crime and drug free. When you are born into a contrada it is like joining a family. Each contrada has its own church, social clubs, sporting teams, etc. This is a tradition (and competition!) that goes back centuries and it still works beautifully. In the Piazza Del Campo, there is a civic museum (Museo Civico)dating back to the 14th century and in one of the rooms there are painted fresco murals entitled “The Allegory or Good and Bad Government and Their Effects on the Town and Countryside”. These murals were painted in 1338 by Ambrogio Lorenzetti and they depict vividly how cities that are well and honestly governed look and conversly, what cities that are corruply and poorly governed look like. They are wonderful and cautionary illustrations that are still valid today-see Detroit. It’s not rocket science.
The point is this about Siena, Italy… they are not “blessed” with multiculturism so it’s not a problem for them to operate a system that relies upon shared values. We have a mix of civilized and uncivilized people trying to live under a common system of laws and values, and this simply does not work. It’s getting worse by the day too.
For Detroit’s progressive decay, see Steven Crowder’s video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS-zUTysBdo
Wow, great article. I was wondering how you might demonstrate crime leading to poverty.
Find some desperately poor sub-Saharan African country that’s willing to do a deal, and negotiate a Hong-Kong style 99 year lease agreement to create a penal colony. Introduce Transportation For Life as a punishment for gang members.
Just as an experiment. What we’re doing now isn’t working.
There’s a patch of junk accumulating in the middle of the Pacific ocean that would be a good drop off place. Cheaper than a lease and no chance for recidivism.
Are you a bubblehead?
Well things CCC’s camps and WPA might have worked in the 1930′s but times have changed. You are not dealing with the Dead End Kids.
Our social mores are moving to rock bottom with the Politicial Caste justifying the actions of hoodlums by saying they are poor. They are pandering to this element to rape rob and pillege from real workers via taxes. This is further evidence of the failure of Single Motherhood perputrated by feminist and Progressive Politicians. I certainly support abortions in todays world and feel the U.S. should adopt a one child policy for single women as a starter.
I don’t think Comrade Lenin or Mao would put up with this crap
crime leading to poverty, poverty leading to crime is a vicious chicken vs. egg cycle. i have lived in a poor predominantly hispanic area all my life. its not that one leads to the other, its that they perpetuate each other.
btw a ‘flash’ mob has to do with random group dancing or other silliness in public. “you keep using that word, i no think it means what you think it means”.
Yes, it is a vicious cycle. However, you can force people to stop committing crimes (by shooting them, if necessary), but you cannot stop people from being poor. (Rodney King won 4 million dollars in a lawsuit against the city of Los Angeles, yet shortly before he died he said he was broke.)
Well things CCC’s camps and WPA might have worked in the 1930′s but times have changed. You are not dealing with the Dead End Kids.
Maybe it needs to be more like “Cool Hand Luke”.
Real poverty leads to apathy — not either crime or revolution.
Welfare queens are not poor. They’re just urban rednecks.
It’s culture. Their culture.
Just because he was Asian doesn’t mean it wasn’t racial.
Black racists hate Asians at least as much as they do us “rednecks” and “crackers” (terms I bear with no small degree of pride).
BTW, I used to live in Streeterville, some decades ago, before it got to be as expensive as it is now.
I hated it.
Now I live in an unincorporated area, very far from Chicago.
Interesting discussions going on in Los Angeles right now. The city of Los Angeles wants to push a subway through from downtown to the ocean in Santa Monica. The proposed route would take it right through Beverly Hills. BH is *really* against this proposal and has the money and the power (so far) to thwart it. LA traffic is awfulAwfulAWFUL and this subway route is supposed to alleviate the need to be driving a car everywhere. It would also enable citizens from Compton, Watts and Boyle Heights easy access (and egress) to go to where the money is.
Reading comments in the LA Times, it’s amazing to me how many of the Times’ readers are unaware of what’s been going on in Philadelphia and Chicago. My prediction is that Beverly Hills will succeed in digging their Prada-clad heels in, and that the city of Los Angeles will have to re-route their subway to go *around* Beverly Hills to get to the ocean.
I had the misfortune of being in Atlanta when the old Atlanta city bus system became the largely federally funded Metropolitan Atlanta Rapid Transit Authority. That metropolitan thing is the key; Atlanta is actually a fairly small area within Fulton County and in those days was the classic “doughnut” of a black urban enclave surrounded by white suburbs. The metropolitan part extended the “bus line” much further into the suburbs and the surrounding counties where heretofore it had only gone far enough to deliver the maids and gardeners to some more affluent areas like Buckhead and West Paces Ferry Road. Of course, the acronym MARTA quickly came to mean Moving Afros Rapidly Through Atlanta and Lenox Square and Phipps Plaza merchants had to take crash courses in “shrinkage prevention.” Being of sound mind, in ’74 I got the Hell out of the city a quarter-million Confederate soldiers died to prevent.
Atlanta. A veritable black hole that endlessly sucks in valuable resources for which the rest of us in the state must constantly struggle to attain. Seriously. It’s as if the rest of Georgia doesn’t fricking exist.
Of course, all the “cool” people in ATL will tell you that the problem with Atlanta is that outside Atlanta is Georgia. I go down to see family and look after things every few years. Back when I was working I’d try to piggyback the trip with a work trip to the East Coast and then I could fly into Savannah/Hilton Head’s wonderful little airport and avoid ATL altogether. But now I have to do SEA to ATL or ANC to Chicago (ORD) to ATL. I get my rental car, paying the Godawful taxes, and hit I-75 South just as fast as I can and I don’t look back. Last time we were down, we stopped off in Macon for awhile. What was once a beautiful and pretty well-off river port, railway center, and cotton town is now just gone to rot and ruin. My hometown is now majority black and there isn’t a single functioning business on the Courthouse Square; everything either boarded up, a government office, or a junk store. When I was a kid there were five “dry goods” stores, three hardware stores, three five and dimes, three banks, a movie theater, three or four barber shops, and two hotels around that Square. Now the Courthouse isn’t even on the Courthouse Square, which has been turned into a tacky park that I’ve never seen anyone in.
My attorney there is a childhood friend. When we were visiting some years ago he offered to take us out to the new subdivision he was developing on the outskirts of town adjoining the back nine of the golf course. The headline in the local weekly was about how pleased and proud the city fathers were that the unemployment rate had dropped to “only” 12%. I noted that his contractor was from Florida and all the labor was Hispanic. I asked him how he as an elected official could get away with doing that with the unemployment so high. He replied, “They get their welfare checks so they don’t care.” Sadly, he’s right.
I served as a grand juror in Macon a few years back (quite a commute); I have no use at all for that town. They wound up building a whole new mall north of town to get away from the blacks who overtook their other mall (which in its prime was pretty nice).
It is time to end the identity of the “African Americans”. Either you are American, or you are African. Make up your mind. If you are American, then join our country and be a good citizen. Learn to speak properly, rather than the retarded black slang, learn the values of free society and respect for the laws of your country. If you prefer to be African, then you have every right to move to any county in Africa.
From Wikipedia:
President Theodore Roosevelt in speaking to the largely Irish Catholic Knights of Columbus at Carnegie Hall on Columbus Day 1915, asserted that:
There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism. When I refer to hyphenated Americans, I do not refer to naturalized Americans. Some of the very best Americans I have ever known were naturalized Americans, Americans born abroad. But a hyphenated American is not an American at all… The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, of preventing all possibility of its continuing to be a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities, an intricate knot of German-Americans, Irish-Americans, English-Americans, French-Americans, Scandinavian-Americans or Italian-Americans, each preserving its separate nationality, each at heart feeling more sympathy with Europeans of that nationality, than with the other citizens of the American Republic… There is no such thing as a hyphenated American who is a good American. The only man who is a good American is the man who is an American and nothing else.
One of the major contributors to this epidemic has been social entitlement programs. Many of these inner city youths are the product of many generations of government assistance. Everything has been handed to them and they have no sense of pride or ownership. I’m not suggesting that they are pampered by any means, just that they don’t have to work for their spoils and have never encountered the morals that come with responsibility of any sort.
Nobody wants to see a child starving or freezing, and we’ve created a monster that would be difficult to dismantle at this point, but these programs seem to be doing more harm than good these days.
Perhaps if we turned off the ‘free ride for life’ aspect and returned to truly assisting people while they help themselves, we’d see some improvement. If nothing else, they wouldn’t have the time or occasion for all of these flash mobs if they were holding down jobs. And without total assistance they would need jobs to survive.
Of course, this would require total abandonment of white guilt as well as an end of the government’s use of these programs as vote generators. Dangling a carrot isn’t as effective if the mule isn’t hungry.
More jobs, bigger tax base, fewer entitlements – Win-Win-Win!
Crime does drive business away. Several in this city were repeatedly hit and customers stopped coming. They closed. Some stores bordering the expanding bad parts of town look like fortresses from the outside while others further out have armed “loss prevention” staff.
One reason the US became as great as it has (was) was because there was law and order. People generally felt safe and businesses could generally expect to operate safely. Not true everywhere of course, but in the main. As that breaks down, well, we’re in trouble. And yes, much of it is because generations of criminals have been coddled by the courts, particularly when they were young and impressionable. Just doing away with the nonsense of sealed juvenile records and reading a defendant’s entire criminal history at the start of any proceedings would go a long way toward keeping the most dangerous in prison and taking away the mystique of a criminal life.
You can thank HUD for introducing crime into nice neighborhoods:
NY Post:
The whole point was to bring moderate and low income housing to affluent towns — or, as Deputy HUD Secretary Ron Sims put it, “to remove zip codes as a factor in the quality of life in America.”
The most important fact has not been mentioned yet:Fathers. Our jails are filled with fatherless men. Those mobs are fatherless boys who impregnate fatherless girls who perpetuate the cycle. The welfare state utterly destroyed the black family and the liberals are trying to do the same to Hispanics. Without a man, women raise beasts.
Oh dear Bonnie out all of this, of the 120 comments to this post and the article atop, ONLY YOURS gets to the root of the problem.
14% of teen pregnancies in the U.S. in 1957 were unmarried. In 2000, 80%.
The vast majority of young blacks will never assimilate in a civilized society.
Stop welfer,close down public housing,stop food stamps,stop free medical care.
Open what used to be called poor houses separating males and females.
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During World War Two we ,wrongly,placed all the Japanese Americans in detention camps to avoid sabotage and aiding a possible invasion on the mainland..The young blacks pose a more serious threat to America.
When a young black is convicted of a senseless attack on the publc,send them there to live out their useless lives.
there is a deeper connection to your point as many former Japanese-American urban enclaves on the West Coast became hosts to southern blacks who migrated to bases and war industrial complexes (Crenshaw, Fillmore, Oakland). Though a certain hardship, this relocation may have aided the Japanese immigrants as they saw their former market dominance in landscaping and agriculture dissipate in an instant. Nowadays, most Japanese-Americans are safely ensonced in non-land based professions. Internment forced them from the equivalent of the modern Mexican experience to the modern Jewish experience.
Actually, a lot of people do give a damn about black on black violence, as well as all other kinds of violence …it’s that racist piece of crap in the White House, and his liberal media buttlickers, who need all violence except liberal sensationalized white on black violence, completely hidden from view, in order to deceitfully validate President Bigotbreath’s stereotype election platform claiming that “oppressive, racist whites” are America’s only problem.
Well, it doesn’t cost them anything so why not? Back in the day, such would pray on stagehands downtown. The tactic was to remember one face in the mob.
In time, the remembered would show up, and the stagehand and friends would pound the guy into dusty hamburger.
The secret is to leave them where you find them.
Please don’t give me you twaddle about law and such, because it is not work, historically if you want justice, you have to start locally.
in congress is a flash mob itself.
“If only we’d have greater redistribution of income and wealth, all this would go away.”
I’m not one of the rich, so do I get my share? I’ll happily sit on my butt and allow you to hand to me but because I’m not of the “darker” shades of skin color, I’m expected to be the one to work for THEM.
Seems I made a HUGE mistake in my life. I was RESPONSIBLE and had morals and values I adhered to. I WORKED for all I acquired. I didn’t have children I couldn’t afford, and then ONLY after I was married.
I made a mistake. You must be IRRESPONSIBLE in life to be handed the better life. I was to blame everyone else for my irresponsibility and you were to believe it. You were supposed to feel “guilty” and give me a fine home to live in. A large stipend to live off of. Pay for every child I had.
The GREAT life I should have and NEVER have to work for simply because of the color of my skin.
Has anyone else noticed you can’t speak of race when it comes to violence, but it’s a REQUIREMENT when it comes time for handouts? I can’t say that the MAJORITY of crime is committed by young Black men, but I’m FORCED to say it’s a young Black man who is unemployed and should be HANDED a job. (or the money from one at least)Doesn’t matter if they are qualified or not.
I’m racist if I say Blacks commit the crime, and I’m racist if I complain about giving jobs solely because of skin color.
I curse my parents for raising me properly. They should have taught me the way life REALLY is.
That the laws do not apply to Blacks. You are allowed to do as you please as long as you’re Black. You are expected to give EVERYTHING to a Black person just because they are Black.
You must be careful what truths you tell. A Black person might take offense to being told the truth, and they will riot because of it.
They are protected by a new element in the Periodic Table – Blackdemocratium.
It’s Physics, man.
I’ve searched the internet, and I haven’t found a single example of a violent caucasian flash mob. Every instance that I can find are vicious young blacks. Though I did find this one instance of a bunch of whites kids staging a mo-holds-barred pillow fight (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOtFQyhY3t4).
Does anyone really believe that, if there were dozens (hundreds?) of documented examples of mobs of white youths attacking stores and random black citizens, the news media wouldn’t make a four-alarm news sensation the likes of which have never been seen? Yet, the news media seem very reticent to report on the wave of violent black flash mobs that are attacking almost daily. Why is that?
I’ll probably be called out as a RRRRRAAAAAAACCCCCCCIIIIIISSSSSTTTTTT!!! for even mentioning the fact.
“Yet, the news media seem very reticent to report on the wave of violent black flash mobs that are attacking almost daily. Why is that?”
Soft bigotry of low expectations. In fact, the MSM expects these things to happen, so they don’t consider it “news.”
Left/liberal politics, entitlement and Al Sharpton are the root cause of crime/violence.
Rioting should be met with unstinting use of the machine gun – not in the hands of the police, who (especially in Chicago!) have a tendency to fight for the wrong side – but in the hands of homeowners and business owners.
If the deceased was participating in a riot at the time of death, that should be an automatic proof of innocence on the part of whomever shot the perp in question.
If you riot, you’re fair game. That should go double for rioters who set fires.
“we don’t give a damn about black-on-black violence”
Damn skippy. I could care less. When 95% of blacks are so bigoted they vote in mass for that NAZI-Thug in the White House, I’ve lost all sympathy for their plight.
Dr. Miller,
Your lament is as accurate as it is damning. In my city, growing up, I lived through several neighborhood changes. At first, working class people, black and white, did just fine. Then, the local Dairy Farmer started getting robbed (perpetrators where black) Then the local grocery stores started getting robbed, one of which had a black proprieter. pretty soon, the Dairy farmer closed; pretty soon, the grocery stores closed;pretty soon, even the white castle closed down! We were long gone before that. On the other hand, I had a white gang looking for me. I had to face them late one night in the middle of the street. The only guy who would stand with me was a black friend.
Frankly, I grieve over this often repeated motif.
I saw the same thing in Columbus, Ohio, where the crowning jewel was the Citycenter Mall. It was built in the middle of downtown, under the leadership of conservative city leaders. For several years, it drew tremendous crowds to its tri-levels of glass, great selections in every price range, and good sit-down dining. Then, in the late afternoons & early evenings, groups of young blacks began to rove & shout & become disruptive. Ocassionally, a fight would break out. The city admin. changed to political liberals. Police feared charges of racism & profiling, & the usual cant. Then the old people did not feel safe & stopped coming to window shop & have dinner. Ditto the young mom’s with their children. When the restaurants got out, none of the business people had reason to go in during the day; then the little shops left, then the bigger ones. In just a couple years, the project ended in destruction and leveling of the entire mall. Poverty follows violence. People won’t shop where they feel threatened.
What African country was this in? There is no way this happened in America where the family has been under attack for 50 years, and school children are spared the rod.
On an aside, my Pop was born, raised in Chicago. A tough NW Chicago Italian neighborhood. My folks met at IBM in Chicago.
Their first home they’d bought was in the late 50′s in South Chicago.
They’d always left their backdoor to their yard unlocked.
My folks didn’t use weapons nor own a weapon(s) until their 30′s when moving to Colorado. Whereas my Pop took it upon himself to be trained in weaponry when taking his ever-like growing family camping with and protecting us from possible animals.
I’ve seen the B&W pics of their first place and myriad of wonderful stories of Chi-Town.
For their 50th Anniversary us kids had taken my folks to Chi-town to visit friends, family alike.
My Pop & Mom were visually shattered by their once-beautiful home and neighborhood destroyed by ‘Progressivism’.
Following that bitter stop on nostalgia lane we’d spent most of our time in my Pop’s native NW neighborhood.
My Mom’s from Detroit, born and raised there. Whereas she lived so close to old Tiger Stadium she’d walk to the stadium and the ticket agent would let folks in for free during the 9th inning.
I’ve seen pictures of the area where my Mom and pre, post-Tiger Stadium stood and now lay bare. NO Memorial, plaque.. nothing but an empty, garbage-ridden lot.
A gut wrenching realization (I can only imagine in my mom’s psyche) wherein again ‘Progressivism’ took hold there long ago, too. For Motor City went belly up decades prior to the auto collapse.
Which part of “South” Chicago? The actual narrow-defined community area 79th St and South Chicago Ave south & east to the lakefront? Or were you applying the term to someplace in the greater South Side? The latter tendency annoyed me to no attend when I was in grad school and the professor used to apply the term South Chicago to activities that actually took place in Woodlawn, Englewood, and Gresham. If your family’s neighbors now live in far-from-Gary parts of NW Indiana, I think you got it right.
I say this without any great enthusiasm — orphanages. We have to end all government assistance programs (welfare, foodstamps, WIC, EITC, subsidized housing) and open orphanages instead. Not Oliver Twist type workhouses, but places where these kids would have structure and education and responsibility. Foster care would be ideal, but the needs are too great. Yes, people think orphanages are cruel, but well-run orphanages would be more humane than what we have now — feral animals roaming the streets, killing each other and innocent bystanders. We are producing entire neighborhoods of sociopaths.
The root problem is dysfunctional families, primarily fatherless homes where a government check has replaced the father. Unfortunately, the dysfunction is so endemic, we need to remove the children in order for them to have their best chance at any kind of “normal” life as adults.
Those women who love their children will find a way via work and family and private charity (and maybe even the children’s fathers) to provide for their kids. Those for whom baby is the means check will be long gone, and good riddance.
Can we re-open the insane asylums, too, and give some food and comfort to the crazies wandering the streets talking to themselves, God, and space aliens?
The effects of another great “Liberal” program.
A few decades ago, there was this great call from “caring,” “mental health activists” to “de-institutionalize” mental patients, backed by all sorts of horror stories about horrific neglect, abuse, and “snakepit” mental hospitals–and such there were.
But, instead of reforming/fixing the bad apples, the call went up to deinstitutionalize everybody, with a two part solution.
One, close down as many mental hospitals/facilities as possible by releasing as many of their their patients as possible–and they did.
Two, “re-integrate ” these patients into society by housing these newly released patients in much more suitable, small treatment facilities/group homes, to be located in residential neighborhoods all over America.
In addition, as part of this liberalization, many localities also eliminated or tightened “involuntary commitment” procedures, and eliminated many of the laws they had on the books dealing with vagrancy and loitering that had supposedly been used to harass, and to serve as an excuse to institutionalize the mentally ill.
Just one small problem, Congress passed legislation which carried out objective number One, but for some reason (I’m thinking the likely overwhelming rejection by people all over America of the idea of having unpredictable and/or dangerous mental patients living in their neighborhoods, and rubbing elbows with their children might have been a major one) never got around to funding for part number Two.
Result, all of the crazies wandering around, pushing stolen shopping carts and hallucinating (according to a report I saw a few years ago, some California jurisdiction–it may have been San Francisco–rents several massive refrigerated trucks for hundreds of thousands of dollars per year, to store such carts that the cops find on the streets and all their “contents” for something like eighteen months each, so that their “owners” can come get them if they miss them), begging, sleeping on grates and in doorways, urinating and taking dumps in public areas–D.C.’s Metro now puts up barriers each night, as does Philadelphia’s City Hall, to prevent “street people” from using them as public toilets–being a “public health” problem, packing public shelters, and also committing quite a bit of crime.
I’ve got news for you, if you’ve got public housing for families and even elderly and disabled in your town, the race hustlers (Shaun Donavan, Obama’s appointee to HUD is a former ACORN race hustler) is exploiting HUD and public housing to funnel these racist gang bangers and not just families, but Obama and the democrats have broadened the term, “disabled” to include psychiatric patients, drug addicts and criminals, which includes violent criminals, drug dealers and rapists, so your elderly, physically disabled and poor families in your respective cities and towns are being displaced in favor of the scum Obama and the democrats want funneled in to undermine and weaken conservative voting areas.
Accosted by a “flash” mob of black teenagers, the physician was repeatedly hit and beaten. He wasn’t robbed. He says the motive wasn’t racial, as he’s Asian.
Huh?
For a physician, he doesn’t seem very intelligent. So the rule is that black-on-Asian attacks are never “racial”?
Here is a long list of recent black attacks on other races:https://docs.google.com/document/d/12sWYN6XHsuYe-dNDdToOJ2pNIwEpLQOMzGB3AyhtsfE/edit
There is an uncommon amount of truth told in this article and in the public comments. Glad to see it! I thought critical thinking and the First Amendment had been obliterated by Politically Correct thinking. Maybe not!
These events are not flash mobs; they are crimes committed by groups of people. Real flash mobs are not crimes: http://bit.ly/GSMyqd. Calling these crimes “flash mobs” only hurts the real flash mob community.
How is it that gangs of 15 to 30 young Black males can get around in elite neighborhoods without being noticed by Chicago police? Do they wear invisible cover shields before attacking their innocent prey
I can’t help but believe that much of the reflexive opposition and derisiveness among blacks to conceal and carry and stand your ground laws comes from the fact that they know their brothers and sisters are the ones the rest of us need protection from. If any one of these assault victims had a gun the whole narrative would go from “youth flash mobs” to make the beating sound like synchronized dance routines for the benefit of mall goers to “white racist” wantonly killing poor innocent black teens”. Blacks and white liberals now have come to the firm conclusion that George Zimmerman must have been hitting Trayvon Martin on the hands with his face as a way of hurt him in a racist assault.
“Crime causes poverty.” Too right. The idea of my going into a black neighborhood to shop is too ludicrous for words. Which, sadly, says it all.
The author can take gun control and stick it where the sun don’t shine. Unless of course you can figure out how to control only the guns of criminals and not mine.
It can’t be done. So the only logical thing to do is control the criminals and stop blaming those of us who do not commit crime.
We have laws and we have law enforcement officers. Look to them when you are looking to blame someone, not to those who choose to invoke their second amendment right.
We need a new media. 6 Jewish Media programs swings far to left. Let’s produce a News Media that will warn the public when Black Violent Flash Mobs are running wild killing people. Let’s get these Jewish Media to fold. They surely do not have our good interest. So many Americas have already realized how left they are and their lies. You would think they would get the message. They don’t they have an agenda or propaganda line to tote for their 6 run news stations. I have had enough! Huffington Post just threw my comment out. I did not use any bad word but, still they didn’t like my different point of view. Let’s put together a new Media for good citizens to watch without all the left leaning, American ruining garbage.